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BoxerShorts47 said:
As you start getting closer to communism, e.g. UBI, you'll start to get similar problems as the USSR, e.g. free-rider problem. This is the reason it's not possibly to simply tax the rich as an offset for stagnant wages.
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There are no freeriders in the glorious worker's paradise you fucking reactionary revisionist

There are always canals to be dug, railroads to be built, trees to be cut down, iron to be mined with bare hands
 
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every place has its own ideological bias, and the farms really isn't an exception. But it's not really like: "this place is too liberal!" or "This place is too conservative!" The things that people will actually get mad if you have differing viewpoints on are: 1. disputing the idea that the state cannot effectively regulate anything 2. disputing the idea that liberty is the highest governing value and 3. disputing the idea that war and conflict are naturally inherent evils.
This is all pretty centrist stuff, but for me who believes the state can regulate stuff, does not believe that human rights exist and believes that war can be a good is in the vast minority.

I hold an ideology. Having an ideology is left wing. I'm a real conservative and I only believe in what is practical. And some people are gonna say "You're mad because your ideas are dumb." Ok, if I went on to a communist forum and said the shit that you believe they would call me dumb even though I'm saying what you believe. You have an ideology just like the communists. Just like the communists. Having an ideology is cringe. I can say whatever I want to get power because I don't believe in silly things like ideology, I only believe in advancing the interests of the state and my own interests by most means available to me
edit: I meant this ironically, but I now realize that there's no irony here. this may actually just be what i believe...
 
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Bob Barker said:
Sig got permabanned for fed posting before boxy did. Boxy truly won the debate.
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God bless Sig, his copy pasta and unrelenting shitposting. He shitposted himself into getting yeeted and went out like a champ. @BoxerShorts47's end wont be a glorious, it will be with a leather belt tied around his neck, a cum sock and a photo of the pre-teen Olsen twins he was working up a tribute to.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
As you start getting closer to communism, e.g. UBI, you'll start to get similar problems as the USSR, e.g. free-rider problem. This is the reason it's not possibly to simply tax the rich as an offset for stagnant wages.
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Says the unemployed NEET receiving welfare. Yet again, self cucked. GG, Boxy.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
What is your job? You're not even a mother, aka the most important job a women can have.
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It used to be holding your head so Sig could ream you out, but since he's gone we've all chipped in for a coffee thermos size strap-on her job is to gape you in his stead. I nominate @Just A Butt or @Stilgar of Troon as possible replacement candidates for the official position of head holder.
BoxerShorts47 said:
Thank my mom for making me.
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I'm not so cruel as to constantly remind the woman of this fact.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
You cannot go back to the early-mid 2010s. The same people who cared about lolcows as teenagers and 20-somethings now care about politics. People grow-up. The 2020s will be a decade of politics, not lolcows. This happened on the left as well which is why so many become SJWs.


As you start getting closer to communism, e.g. UBI, you'll start to get similar problems as the USSR, e.g. free-rider problem. This is the reason it's not possibly to simply tax the rich as an offset for stagnant wages.
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People became SJWs because of deliberate social engineering.

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You can actually see Social Justice peak in Google Trends every college semester. It looks like a heartbeat. Every Fall semester. Boop, boop, boop.


How about this one? Black Lives Matter, but only on an election year.


In other words, this, but unironically:

 
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Drain Todger said:
People became SJWs because of deliberate social engineering.

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You can actually see Social Justice peak in Google Trends every college semester. It looks like a heartbeat. Every Fall semester. Boop, boop, boop.

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Yes and people become civil rights activists (aka center-left and center-right) because of social engineering too.
I've said since the begining that you can brainwash people to believe anything without enough time and control. e.g. gay marriage is marriage, women can be good leaders, blacks are oppressed, w/e.
Drain Todger said:
How about this one? Black Lives Matter, but only on an election year.
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Black lives don't matter. Despite being 13% of the population, blacks commit 56% of all homicides. Black people don't give a shit about black lives or white lives.

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In other words, this, but unironically:

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The entire post Lincoln Civil War narrative has been brainwashing. America is built upon 150 years of pure propaganda.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
Yes or No. Do you support the right of white people to have borders? Just say "No." Why are you hesitating? Because you know that's bad optics?
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You could start by taking my criticisms on good faith, chap. You already hacked into my computer, and I tried to provide a foil to your dramatis personae here, independent of my personal views.

From what I understand, your general strategy to enact white nationalism is:
  1. Demand an answer, in the affirmative or the negative, to the question "Do you support the right of white people to freely establish white-only spaces, and to enforce the integrity of these spaces as demarcated by invented borders?"
  2. Make a mental note of 'your white people' [and, you stop there for now with those people, because you ran out of printer ink or something]
  3. Ad hominem the opposition on the basis of white hatred (if they are positively against white-only spaces) or white apathy (if they are indifferent to whether there are white-only spaces).
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There's a pretty obvious reason why your strategy fails:
  • If they hate white people, it probably has less to do with any primary biological or sociocultural characteristics of whiteness, and more to do with the fact that fringe white people keep insisting on whites-only spaces and strong border enforcement.
  • If they are apathetic to a white nationalist agenda, it probably has less to do with any of your ideological certainty, and more to do with the fact that you are currently maintaining a perspective that is so contrary to U.S. party line politics as to negate any possibility of IRL political influence outside of something that looks a lot like terrorism.
BoxerShorts47 said:
It was obvious policies like equal pay and putting women into education were a disaster and instead of admitting this, they made-up a justification for their failure.
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Sources? Women have made great advancements in the maths and sciences.
BoxerShorts47 said:
"Ya it's totally great that our people aren't getting married, our IQ is getting dumber and we need to import foreigners to replace our own people. That's a prosperous and healthy society."
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Replace is the wrong word, have you looked at the linear projection on population growth since the 60s? There are double the number of existing people on the planet.
BoxerShorts47 said:
Yes or No is how you win bad faith debates. You'd used Yes or No against me too. Don't be a hypocrite.
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Bad faith debates only ever really occur when your opponent is (i) never going to concede to your opinion due to dogmatism, or (ii) secretly on your side, making strawman arguments. An opponent who is merely analyzing your argument's flaws is a constructive debate partner regardless.
 
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