Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[CapeKnight]

All in all the videos contain very little information that isn't already weeks or even months old here on the farms.

This is indeed true, Preston hasn't said anything that others haven't said before. He's arrived late at the party and wants to act like there's a spot to reclaim. Had he came out earlier, maybe it would have been fine, but seems to me like he overestimates his own role as some sort of authority figure with enough credibility to warrant people to listen to him say the same old shit other people got to before.

Not to mention, Preston himself seems to be trying to drama whore more this time around. The slapfight between him and JDA came as a result of JDA doing his usual routine (think back to the chart Mister Dongs made), so really, it doesn't make Preston look bad. On the other hand, he appeared in Nasser's chat to specifically start a fight, only to immediately shut up and cower away as Vic King made jokes about him taking it up the ass with a dildo. What's a little hypocritical of Preston is that he seems to want both sides of the arguments: do not disrespect people's sexuality (last I checked, kinks are not a sexuality, neither is cuck), and gets offended if he's called a faggot, but has no problem telling Nasser his faggot voice needs works. For someone who wants to, as he would put it, pearl clutch about faggoty shit, he seems to have no problem asking to be showered in shit for expecting double standards himself.

The other point that's really more stupid of him is that he claims Smiller is the artist of Raz0rfist's book in his latest Last Week in ComicsGate video at the 5 minute and 49 seconds mark. I have not heard anything about this, as far as I know, Smiller has the project with Shadiversity, is doing Monster Hunt 2 with Doug and Mike Baron, and a cover for Daym Drops' book. Nothing about working with Raz0rfist. So much for going into Nasser's chat to shill for himself as being "accurate and concise". Maybe, fact checking with the actual person before he ran his mouth would have been the better option.

What used to be, the guy actually had a point back when his stuff was leaked out, but most of his targets back then are no longer even in the game anymore, nor are relevant factors in the CG game. I expect Poulter to drop off as he runs out of topics and try to flail around in chats to start drama now for content. Less peacocking would have helped his bruised ego.

 

[GranDuke]

https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1335366108799524865

looks like EVS is gonna leave CG too.

Isn't this like third time he leaves CG?

 

[Rupin]

Isn't this like third time he leaves CG?

When were the other two times?

 

[CapeKnight]

When were the other two times?

There was the one time Ethan left CG around the same time Smiller did, only to return 24 hours later as Smiller constantly references whenever this topic comes up and said "Warcampaign did nothing wrong!"

I don't know about the other instance.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

There was the one time Ethan left CG around the same time Smiller did, only to return 24 hours later as Smiller constantly references whenever this topic comes up and said "Warcampaign did nothing wrong!"

I don't know about the other instance.

I think that was the only one.

 

[FROG]

Who gives a fuck about Eisners?


First: Tom King won an Eisner for "Best Writer" in 2019 for dogshit like Heroes in Crisis and his Batman run. Hell, Mags Visaggio was nominated. Maybe they meant something once upon a time but they certainly don't now.

Second: Doug TenNapel will be the first to tell you that his Eisner for Best Humor Publication for Bart Simpson's Treehouse of Horror had everything to do with the inclusion of cartoonist legend Sergio Aragones and him just being in the right place at the right time.

Third: Bill Willingham is said to be heading over to Comicsgate and that guy has 14 Eisners, for whatever that's worth.

The moment I was nominated for one, they meant something. Then they stopped meaning anything forever when I lost.

@FROG does. He thought we all needed to be reminded that he'd been nominated.

Eisner's are as much of a joke as Oscar's or Emmy's. Bill Wilingham is a massive talent though. It would be interesting if he thought joining the CG dumpster fire was a good idea. I guess Liam has left an opening for a writer and joining titans like Clint, Klaus and Wenger in CG would be epic...

The pros who join me don't even see Wenger or Liam. They see CYBERFROG.

Jawbreakers: Lost Souls was the first Jawbreakers book.
I wasn't asking about that, though.
I was referring to a possible Omnibus containing Meyers' work from 2007 to 2014:
1. Yonchi, published as a part of Image Comic's Popgun Volume 2 in 2007. It was Meyers' debut comic.
2. No Enemy But Peace, one-shot published in 2008.
3. "The Orphans," published as part of FUBAR: Empire of the Rising Dead in 2010/2011 (republished in 2017).
4. Chosin: To The Sea, published in 2013.
5. "Fallen Heroes" in Korean War Volume 1, published in 2014.
6. Chosin: Hold The Line, published in 2014.

There was a Jawbreakers book before LOST SOULS. It's very rare. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/863672719/jawbreakers-book-one-sketch-reward-at-every-tier

You do get that Doug sold on Kickstarter and made 500k plus all together on that book?
Edit both campaigns together equal 500k felt I need to clarify on Kickstarter he made 260k and he’s made 236k and it’s in demand so about 500k altogether

Yes Zigzag. I think I mentioned that.

You do get that I beat his 60 day Kickstarter campaign in 6 days? And now I'm going to beat his IGG campaign too in the same single campaign.

 

[Zigzag]

The moment I was nominated for one, they meant something. Then they stopped meaning anything forever when I lost.


The pros who join me don't even see Wenger or Liam. They see CYBERFROG.


There was a Jawbreakers book before LOST SOULS. It's very rare. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/863672719/jawbreakers-book-one-sketch-reward-at-every-tier





Yes Zigzag. I think I mentioned that.

You do get that I beat his 60 day Kickstarter campaign in 6 days? And now I'm going to beat his IGG campaign too in the same single campaign.

I never said you weren’t doing great now did I. You’re doing good . I said what I said because cg ignores Kickstarter and thinks only igg total count and I don’t think you mentioned it so I did. I also wish you success in one of my posts. It’s hard to cheer for you when you go after other creators over and over it’s not a competition it’s about doing good work for customers. You should be hoping Doug and Tim and everyone succeeds because if you’re about the customers you want them to have a great product.

 

[FROG]

I never said you weren’t doing great now did I. You’re doing good . I said what I said because cg ignores Kickstarter and thinks only igg total count and I don’t think you mentioned it so I did. I also wish you success in one of my posts. It’s hard to cheer for you when you go after other creators over and over it’s not a competition it’s about doing good work for customers. You should be hoping Doug and Tim and everyone succeeds because if you’re about the customers you want them to have a great product.

Doug and Tim are both shitheads that spent months in gay ops trying to turn people against me. Why would I root for their success? It's funnier to beat their campaigns.

 

[Rupin]

The moment I was nominated for one, they meant something. Then they stopped meaning anything forever when I lost.


The pros who join me don't even see Wenger or Liam. They see CYBERFROG.


There was a Jawbreakers book before LOST SOULS. It's very rare. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/863672719/jawbreakers-book-one-sketch-reward-at-every-tier





Yes Zigzag. I think I mentioned that.

You do get that I beat his 60 day Kickstarter campaign in 6 days? And now I'm going to beat his IGG campaign too in the same single campaign.

Yeah that first Jawbreakers book was drawn by by Zack and had some questionable color choices.

I kinda wish I had gotten it when I had the chance.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

it’s not a competition it’s about doing good work for customers. You should be hoping Doug and Tim and everyone succeeds because if you’re about the customers you want them to have a great product.

Aw, bless. The only way the customers' satisfaction comes into it is whether or not they get a chubby while their pockets are rifled through.

Doug and Tim are both shitheads that spent months in gay ops trying to turn people against me. Why would I root for their success? It's funnier to beat their campaigns.

This is what is going to bite you in the ass somewhere down the line, your utterly petulant and obnoxious personality, behind the scenes. It lends credence to the rumors that you were kicked out of DC not because of your conservatism - I honestly don't know if you have enough principles to take any political stance - but because you're an asshole. You get kudos for recent magnanimous decisions that you made, but setting aside the wisdom and goodwill of any given action, I have to wonder how much the toad can change it's spots and if you're shoring up your defences because you've already felt the first nibbles on your rosy cheeks. You're known for flip-flopping when it's personally expedient. It's why I spent a couple of pages trying to tell Nasser to RUN, RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN, but unfortunately he's turned from fanning his spark of talent in favor of the cold gleam off a heap of ribbitcoins. He's your creature for now, your little buttmonkey, but I expect to see him in your 'shitheads' list again, the next time you feel comfortable and he does something retarded enough to piss you off. Smiller, for all his faults, has more maturity and less autism than that, to know to at least keep you at arm's length. Not to feel confident enough to turn his back to you.

What are Doug and Tim doing? I never followed Tim and I stopped following Doug. All I know is what is said on the Farms. I see them mentioned here in passing for being pricks and tards, but not much. I have to assume they're getting on with their books and paying relatively little heed to the drama. On the other hand, you're here 'in person', so to speak, constantly spewing your childish maledictions for all to see. All but the comicsgate faithful who've been warned away from this wretched hive of scum and villainy. "Doug and Tim were mean to me, boohoohoo! Well my tiny knot of starry-eyed goons poured more money into my cheap-ass comic, so there! I hope they fail, we hates them, we hates them, we hates them forever!"

Fucking hell.

You're the prime mover in comicsgate. You've kept it going longer than gamergate or weeb wars. I've said before it'll take a long time before your audience starts to think "Shreddy Ruxgrim? That's kind of retarded." But that giant meh in TUG's face? Another sign of fatigue and ennui setting in around the edges. The bottomless pockets of comicsgate customers suddenly have a limit. Too much money being shovelled out for too little return. Will the event of empty wallets lead to an examination of the reason for it? Will more comicsgaters, as Mr. Dongs said, begin to think for themselves, and wonder why the hell you're sitting on their millions of dollars, stamping your feet on youtube, twitter and the Farms instead of producing comics?

From the looks of things, Kiwi Farms might be long gone before that happens. I wonder how one begins to archive over a thousand pages of forum posts.

Edit: haha. 'Mad at the internet', Ethan? There's some irony. Your whole schtick, your USP, your raison d'être, is being 'mad at the internet'. That's my point. How long can you drag it it out?

 

[FROG]

Most of Doug's fans couldn't pick you out of a line-up.

None of my fans could pick Doug out of a line up either. I had to introduce him to them.

Aw, bless. The only way the customers' satisfaction comes into it is whether or not they get a chubby while their pockets are rifled through.



This is what is going to bite you in the ass somewhere down the line, your utterly petulant and obnoxious personality, behind the scenes. It lends credence to the rumors that you were kicked out of DC not because of your conservatism - I honestly don't know if you have enough principles to take any political stance - but because you're an asshole. You get kudos for recent magnanimous decisions that you made, but setting aside the wisdom and goodwill of any given action, I have to wonder how much the toad can change it's spots and if you're shoring up your defences because you've already felt the first nibbles on your rosy cheeks. You're known for flip-flopping when it's personally expedient. It's why I spent a couple of pages trying to tell Nasser to RUN, RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN, but unfortunately he's turned from fanning his spark of talent in favor of the cold gleam off a heap of ribbitcoins. He's your creature for now, your little buttmonkey, but I expect to see him in your 'shitheads' list again, the next time you feel comfortable and he does something retarded enough to piss you off. Smiller, for all his faults, has more maturity and less autism than that, to know to at least keep you at arm's length. Not to feel confident enough to turn his back to you.

What are Doug and Tim doing? I never followed Tim and I stopped following Doug. All I know is what is said on the Farms. I see them mentioned here in passing for being pricks and tards, but not much. I have to assume they're getting on with their books and paying relatively little heed to the drama. On the other hand, you're here 'in person', so to speak, constantly spewing your childish maledictions for all to see. All but the comicsgate faithful who've been warned away from this wretched hive of scum and villainy. "Doug and Tim were mean to me, boohoohoo! Well my tiny knot of starry-eyed goons poured more money into my cheap-ass comic, so there! I hope they fail, we hates them, we hates them, we hates them forever!"

Fucking hell.

You're the prime mover in comicsgate. You've kept it going longer than gamergate or weeb wars. I've said before it'll take a long time before your audience starts to think "Shreddy Ruxgrim? That's kind of retarded." But that giant meh in TUG's face? Another sign of fatigue and ennui setting in around the edges. The bottomless pockets of comicsgate customers suddenly have a limit. Too much money being shovelled out for too little return. Will the event of empty wallets lead to an examination of the reason for it? Will more comicsgaters, as Mr. Dongs said, begin to think for themselves, and wonder why the hell you're sitting on their millions of dollars, stamping your feet on youtube and the Farms instead of producing comics?

From the looks of things, Kiwi Farms might be long gone before that happens. I wonder how one begins to archive over a thousand pages of forum posts.

Ha ha ha I love these lengthy condemnations of me.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

He got it for Mister Miracle.

Mister Miracle sucked.

Jawbreakers: Lost Souls was the first Jawbreakers book.
I wasn't asking about that, though.
I was referring to a possible Omnibus containing Meyers' work from 2007 to 2014:
1. Yonchi, published as a part of Image Comic's Popgun Volume 2 in 2007. It was Meyers' debut comic.
2. No Enemy But Peace, one-shot published in 2008.
3. "The Orphans," published as part of FUBAR: Empire of the Rising Dead in 2010/2011 (republished in 2017).
4. Chosin: To The Sea, published in 2013.
5. "Fallen Heroes" in Korean War Volume 1, published in 2014.
6. Chosin: Hold The Line, published in 2014.

Wow I'd had no idea he'd done so much. Lost Souls wasn't the first jawbreakers book, though, he reprinted the first ones in the back and had run a couple kickstarter campaigns prior as I recall.

I backed Impossible Stars. That one's going to be good.

 

[Least Concern]

You do get that I beat his 60 day Kickstarter campaign in 6 days? And now I'm going to beat his IGG campaign too in the same single campaign.

I didn't think it would be possible to wear out a ruler, but you're proving me wrong with your incessant dick-measuring.

 

[Newman's Own]

It's not the alogging itself that bothers me but rather the quality of the posts.

That's an interesting perspective. Let's explore that.

congrats @FROG on defeating the evil.
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I would submit that this post by confirmed cow Nasser is an example of him laughably A-logging against Doug.

That is impressive. Ethan has managed to pass TenNaple's KS funds raised with half as many backers.

Ethan is a far more efficient dairy farmer than Doug. He certainly knows how to milk a cow.

I responded with a critique of said cow's fawning over the FROG cow in a forum designed for laughing at cows.

Doug's hired some pretty good Sour Grapes farmers. Nice work.

The truth is that Doug's stuff is tired. He's a one trick pony, giving his backers High School Year Book level productions with stories about Homer Simpson as either a worm or a Bigfoot, filled with Disney Tween LOL So Random bullshit humor. And worst, Doug is such a repellant human being that he's driven away 2/3rds of his backers, and had to supplement this failed sequel with a new "leather bound" edition of the first book.

If Doug gave away his profits with bonuses, nobody cared. Nobody thanked him by returning for the next two campaigns.

People were amused to back the first book. But there's no story. It's a gag strip video game property. If you like the art, that's nice. It's fairly rote, simplistic brush cartooning. Nothing unique or special. Disposable shit.

It'll continue to plummet from here, and Doug will be right back to where he started from when he cried to me in a FB message. But you and VikkiVerse can continue to cheer him on!

Meanwhile, I've surpassed his earnings with half of the backers in one tenth of the time. In other words, people actually LIKED my last few campaigns, and don't want to miss anything from this new one.

REIGNBOW THE BRUTE is an entirely new property, bearing no relationship to CYBERFROG. And it's still doing great.

I add free books and free toys to my campaigns as they do better and better. I'm guessing Nasser would do the same thing if he hit six figures. And Nasser probably will hit six figures with ComicsGate.

Finally, I'm an Eisner award nominated storyteller, and people are anxious to read the second part of my story. CYBERFROG is a hit. It's obvious. The back issues are selling like crazy on eBay for exorbitant prices... From other eBay sellers. That's proof of concept. Not fans throwing money at me to pwn the SJWs, people actually WANT TO COLLECT CYBERFROG COMICS.

That's what I've built. Maybe I got it started with my excellent Cult Leader charm, but it's real. Keep crying for Doug, though. I love watching all of this.

The Frog cows response was to sperg about his 'arch-nemisis' the worm for a few hundred words (not Tyne level sperging but getting there) before laughably citing his penciler/inker Eisner nom as 'street cred' because he took offense to mild criticism of his skills as a writer/story teller.

Of course I'm going to respond to this. We've got two of this forums subjects joining the conversation here to A-log against their funny book frenemies.

That's what this forum is for IMO. Laughing at these A-logging cows.

Citations are useful and I provide them when I think it necessary but I don't find it necessary when Ethan and Nasser come here to A-log in the spirit of the now thread-banned @Tyne. I'd say Ethan and Nasser coming here 'in person' to winge and be laughed at directly is A-grade stuff. I wish Donal and Mitch would get an account too so we could laugh at them in real time.

Some farmers on this thread like to accuse me of A-logging against EVS and that's fair because I have a clear bias against the cow but we have the main cow of this thread sperging against his cartoon producing "Legion of Doom" in response to mild criticism of his artistic style here. That's some cringe worthy and laughable shit.

Laughing at laughable cows this thread is about seems pretty congruent to the spirit of this thread and this forum.

I am admittedly biased but I don't think I'm wrong here. All the same I'm happy to field criticism for my A-logging. But lets not forget that we have the privilege of having the biggest cow of this thread here eloquently A-logging against people there is a tun of evidence showing he ran gay ops against.

That's entertaining. Sorry if I don't provide more citations but Smug, Vikki, myself and so many others have provided so many citations on this thread ad nauseam that I don't think it's necessary whenever Ethan wants to start a slap fight over mild criticism of his story telling. I'd rather enjoy the show.



Isn't that what Kiwi Farms is about? That's my perspective anyway.

I love this place. I hope Trump doesn't repeal 230 and murder it but if he does I'll miss it.


Edit: Spelling and grammar.

 

[jspit2.0]

The moment I was nominated for one, they meant something. Then they stopped meaning anything forever when I lost.

Greg Capullo expressed similar sentiments in an interview a while back.

There was a Jawbreakers book before LOST SOULS. It's very rare. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/863672719/jawbreakers-book-one-sketch-reward-at-every-tier

I remember, I saw it somewhere. Didn't he do some weird thing with their guns? I mean the dialogue wasn't great, but if anything the art was what left an impression.

None of my fans could pick Doug out of a line up either. I had to introduce him to them.

That's...not true. Anyone under the age of 50 knew Doug. I remember Nerkish literally had a fangasm when he met him.

 

[Rupin]

Greg Capullo expressed similar sentiments in an interview a while back.

I remember, I saw it somewhere. Didn't he do some weird thing with their guns? I mean the dialogue wasn't great, but if anything the art was what left an impression.


That's...not true. Anyone under the age of 50 knew Doug. I remember Nerkish literally had a fangasm when he met him.

You mean anyone under the age of 50 knew about EWJ. Not many people knew who Doug was before he became CG.

 

[AriZona_LaD]

People in this thread tend to perpetuate the myth that Ethan's art is ok. You should stop doing that.

https://archive.fo/z76so

 

[Newman's Own]

People in this thread tend to perpetuate the myth that Ethan's art is ok. You should stop doing that.
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https://archive.fo/z76so

It would appear that Kyle Ritter and Google images did the lions share of the labor on this rainbow hunchback anyway.

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

I have a theory about this situation with Preston trying to obtain the rights to the name of Comicsgate.

It never made sense to me why Preston wanted the name other than to simply spite EVS for not promoting him.

I think it might be deeper and darker than this...

I think Preston is being used or manipulated like a tool by a more cunning force working behind the scenes using him as a catspaw.

This force working behind the scenes has it out for CG and wants to see it destroyed and this force knows that one scenario that will ultimately spell CG's destruction would be for Preston Poulter to attain the rights to the name.

After that, CG will be so tainted that no other creator will want to join the movement, and the big creators already associated with the name will abandon it and simply continue to cultivate the fanbase they already created through the Comicsgate movement.

The movement would wither on the vine and ultimately die.

The main objective of this unseen force working behind the scenes is to trick EVS into abandoning Comicsgate, because since Ya Boi left, EVS is basically the heart and soul of Comicsgate, and if you separate him from the movement, it will eventually die.

Who is this hidden, cunning force working behind the scenes using or manipulating Preston as a catspaw to ultimately destroy CG? It's obvious to me.

The true Sith Lord is Doug. Yup, Doug.

Ever since he left the movement and incurred all those refunds, he's had it out for CG ever since then and wants to see the movement destroyed.

He's good friends with Preston, they play Dungeons & Dragons together. If he's not the one quarterbacking this behind-the-scenes he's at the very least encouraging him and giving him advice.

Doug is no fool, a Machiavellian scheme like this is right up his wheelhouse. Bottom line is I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find out that Doug TenNaple was The Mastermind behind this whole scheme for Preston to obtain the Comicsgate name just to trick EVS into leaving the movement, and thus, ultimately kill it, leaving his revenge complete.

He may even be helping to bankroll Preston's legal fees too, I wouldn't put it past him.


*SUMMARY* Doug is using, manipulating, or at the very least advising Preston to obtain the Comicsgate name for the ultimately goal of destroying the movement.

 

[AriZona_LaD]

I have a theory about this situation with Preston trying to obtain the rights to the name of Comicsgate.

It never made sense to me why Preston wanted the name other than to simply spite EVS for not promoting him.

I think it might be deeper and darker than this...

I think Preston is being used or manipulated like a tool by a more cunning force working behind the scenes using him as a catspaw.

This force working behind the scenes has it out for CG and wants to see it destroyed and this force knows that one scenario that will ultimately spell CG's destruction would be for Preston Poulter to attain the rights to the name.

After that, CG will be so tainted that no other creator will want to join the movement, and the big creators already associated with the name will abandon it and simply continue to cultivate the fanbase they already created through the Comicsgate movement.

The movement would wither on the vine and ultimately die.

The main objective of this unseen force working behind the scenes is to trick EVS into abandoning Comicsgate, because since Ya Boi left, EVS is basically the heart and soul of Comicsgate, and if you separate him from the movement, it will eventually die.

Who is this hidden, cunning force working behind the scenes using or manipulating Preston as a catspaw to ultimately destroy CG? It's obvious to me.

The true Sith Lord is Doug. Yup, Doug.

Ever since he left the movement and incurred all those refunds, he's had it out for CG ever since then and wants to see the movement destroyed.

He's good friends with Preston, they play Dungeons & Dragons together. If he's not the one quarterbacking this behind-the-scenes he's at the very least encouraging him and giving him advice.

Doug is no fool, a Machiavellian scheme like this is right up his wheelhouse. Bottom line is I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find out that Doug TenNaple was The Mastermind behind this whole scheme for Preston to obtain the Comicsgate name just to trick EVS into leaving the movement, and thus, ultimately kill it, leaving his revenge complete.

He may even be helping to bankroll Preston's legal fees too, I wouldn't put it past him.


*SUMMARY* Doug is using, manipulating, or at the very least advising Preston to obtain the Comicsgate name for the ultimately goal of destroying the movement.

I hope Disney makes another Star Wars movie. When Section 230 is wiped out and Josh shuts this down you're going to need a new outlet for your creative theories.