2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Dr J]

I don't know if there's much if anything he can do at this point.

Use the military. I'm told he should have the DIA on his side

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Democrats will be challenging the safest and most secure election in American history.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/30/recounts-lawsuits-house-seats-vacant-441668

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/12/05/democrats-represented-by-marc-elias-try-to-overturn-two-house-elections-pelosi/

 

[make_it_so]

Use the military. I'm told he should have the DIA on his side

To do what? Seize the ballots in the contested states and do an audit? Not only will the opposition scream bloody murder but I imagine even a fairly large chunk of his supporters will balk at such a move. Deploying federal troops is not an action you undertake lightly.

And suppose he does...what happens if they still turn up no signs of fraud? Then his name will truly be dirt and he will go down in history as a disgrace. Not to mention Biden Kamala would have a precedent to try something similar in the future.

 

[Bosmadden]

You're assuming the various Democrat-aligned prosecutors, attorneys, or NGO's aren't going to spend the next four years constantly suing Trump and his children with the intent of bankrupting them and destroying their company, leaving him in absolutely no position to run for office again.

Of course they will which makes it more likely he's going to stay in the game.

The smart play for the Uniparty would be to make nice with him. Go through Jared and Ivanka to persuade him to retire. Make promises and have Biden issue a retrospective pardon.

Either they hate him so much they can't bring themselves to do this or Trump has already rejected the offer.

 

[Fishious Rend]

The system is set up to prevent either a successful third party candidate or an insurgent populist gaining the nomination.

Trump is an outlier. What he achieved is unprecedented.

If he chooses to run again the GOP nomination will be a given. All the gay bluster that he'll be successfully opposed by the likes of Haley or Cruise is just silly. At least 90% of GOP voters love the guy.

It's possible that an insurgent left wing populist gets the Dem nomination. After 4 years of Biden/Harris, and looking at their cabinet picks it looks like we're going to get Bush/Obama redux, the left are going to be pissed especially if they get involved in unpopular wars.

Saying all that we know that the DNC happily rig their primaries, so probably not.

Most likely scenario is that Trump runs again and faces off against Harris. If there is a third party push it will be from the left and not the right.

Amazingly Trump has a very good shot at winning in 2024, should they let him live that long.

honest i think he will be too old by then its either gonna be RINOs or something similar to trump in a way

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

To do what? Seize the ballots in the contested states and do an audit? Not only will the opposition scream bloody murder but I imagine even a fairly large chunk of his supporters will balk at such a move. Deploying federal troops is not an action you undertake lightly.

And suppose he does...what happens if they still turn up no signs of fraud? Then his name will truly be dirt and he will go down in history as a disgrace. Not to mention Biden Kamala would have a precedent to try something similar in the future.

The thing is they've left him with no choice, as far as history goes at this point it doesn't matter if he concedes or he executes order 66 and gasses all those who opposed him. He's going down as Orange Hitler no matter what unless he gets a second term, which may have been the dems' biggest fuckup

 

[The Perplexing Ms. Escape]

Of course they will which makes it more likely he's going to stay in the game.

The smart play for the Uniparty would be to make nice with him. Go through Jared and Ivanka to persuade him to retire. Make promises and have Biden issue a retrospective pardon.

Either they hate him so much they can't bring themselves to do this or Trump has already rejected the offer.

You can’t pardon state charges as a President, you can only pardon his federal charges.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

To do what? Seize the ballots in the contested states and do an audit? Not only will the opposition scream bloody murder but I imagine even a fairly large chunk of his supporters will balk at such a move. Deploying federal troops is not an action you undertake lightly.

And suppose he does...what happens if they still turn up no signs of fraud? Then his name will truly be dirt and he will go down in history as a disgrace. Not to mention Biden Kamala would have a precedent to try something similar in the future.

If he could get the SCOTUS or state legislatures to rule in his favor he could use Insurrection Act troops to protect them from Antifa while they do so.

 

[Dr J]

Seize the ballots in the contested states and do an audit?

Yup. Seize the ballots, seize the voting machines, seize everything

I imagine even a fairly large chunk of his supporters will balk at such a move

I think they'll like idea of their democracy being stolen from them even less

Deploying federal troops is not an action you undertake lightly.

Again, sending Federal troops to prevent democracy being stolen and the United States from being destroyed is not taking it lightly

And suppose he does...what happens if they still turn up no signs of fraud?

If there was no fraud they wouldn't be going to such extreme lengths to hide it. They're literally destroying evidence

Then his name will truly be dirt and he will go down in history in disgrace.

There's absolutely nothing he could do now to make himself look any worse in the eyes of the people who already hate him

 

[Random Internet Person]

Here's a rather remarkable claim

https://www.theepochtimes.com/dersh...islators-pick-alternate-electors_3607611.html
https://archive.vn/0ZR1H

If this some card Trump is using to keep fighting and not concede, I'm not sure how this'll help since literally no other part that could help him, is helping him.

 

[Bosmadden]

honest i think he will be too old by then its either gonna be RINOs or something similar to trump in a way

He'll be the same age as Biden is now. Yes he's fat but he's never smoked and doesn't drink and has no signs of dementia.

As I said I don;t think he has much choice but to carry on in politics. Retirement really isn't an option for him.

Killing or imprisoning an ex-POTUS and leader of the opposition is a bridge too far, even for the Democrats.

 

[Dr J]

Killing or imprisoning an ex-POTUS and leader of the opposition is a bridge too far, even for the Democrats.

So is blatantly rigging an election to put in a dementia patient with the charisma of wet paper who couldn't fill up a Burger King. They don't care. They've demonstrated that they're perfectly willing to burn the country down if it means they can be king of the ashes.

The Ford rationale for pardoning Nixon will not work here

 

[Fishious Rend]

He'll be the same age as Biden is now. Yes he's fat but he's never smoked and doesn't drink and has no signs of dementia.

As I said I don;t think he has much choice but to carry on in politics. Retirement really isn't an option for him.

Killing or imprisoning an ex-POTUS and leader of the opposition is a bridge too far, even for the Democrats.

but, remember biden won do the unique circumstances of 2020 mixed in with some fraud, its would be wiser to let someone else take the reins.

 

[JambledUpWords]

So is blatantly rigging an election to put in a dementia patient with the charisma of wet paper who couldn't fill up a Burger King. They don't care. They've demonstrated that they're perfectly willing to burn the country down if it means they can be king of the ashes.

The Ford rationale for pardoning Nixon will not work here

Them letting Biden lose would actually have worked out in their favor in the long run. For these reasons:

• They could still use the collusion thing again, even if less people take it seriously
• They could work on making fraud more subtle rather than the bull through China shop method they used this election
• Any future Senators and House members rigged in would look more organic due to working on making fraud more subtle
• They could blame Biden/Harris for failing and use it to prop up better candidates in the future

This fraud was one of the worst short-term decisions possible because now, if Trump pulls this off, he may get more leverage to pass voting and election reforms, thus making it harder for Democrats in the future to rig elections, since no one will forget this. Additionally, this kind of move makes you unpopular with everyone and if Trump wins and gets the Senate seats, we could possibly be seeing even bigger Republican majorities than before had Trump won normally.

 

[jje100010001]

The US will be in a ME war under a Biden Presidency. Two years tops.

For whatever reason the neo cons REALLY want to use a middle east war as a proxy to put Russia back in it's box. I don't know how the nation will handle another ME war, let alone if there is a mass casualty event from a direct confrontation with the Russians. The only time Trump won the approval of the MSM was on those occasions he'd lob the odd cruise missile at Syria and Iran so they'll be cheer leading Biden all the way. However it will be the first time since WW2 that the grassroots right will be overwhelmingly against any war policy. How the left will react I really can't say.

Even though war is deeply unpopular we're going to get it anyway.

I honestly am wondering what sort of event they’ll use to get the US back into the ME. For all that matters, the country isn’t unified enough to make it happen (the entire country, left and right, is tired of war), and the whole WMD thing soured that line of casus belli for many people.

If they want a fresh war, I expect something that escalates the shadow war in Syria (given that it’s weak enough to slap around and allows them to stick a finger in Iran and Russia’s eyes), maybe Iran if something big occurs (unlikely) since it’s politically isolated.

Otherwise, I think that more troops to Afghanistan to stamp out the Taliban (good luck with that) might be the lowest hanging fruit.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

I was watching Louder with Crowder because it seems he's the only (major?) one following the story.

 

[Dr J]

Them letting Biden lose would actually have worked out in their favor in the long run.

Letting Biden lose was never an option, no matter how incredibly terrible he was as a candidate, because they're afraid of what Trump might do to them if given a second term and therefore doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. That's why they pulled out all the stops in this election (aside from, y'know, having a good candidate and appealing to a wide cross section of voters). The opposition party in a re-election is usually complacent because the incumbent has every advantage but, on other hand, Presidents typically don't get much done in their second terms. Trump is an atypical President and that's what they're most afraid of, hence the rigging.

 

[Bosmadden]

but remeber biden won do the unique circomstances of 2020 mixed in with some fraud, its would be wiser to let someone else take the reins.

There's no one else. GOPe and RINOs will get nowhere in the primaries. Tucker? If he chooses to run, but honestly I don't see it.

It's Trump's nomination if he wants it. If for whatever reason he doesn't want it then all bets are off. Given the next 4 hellish years we're about to experience under President Dementia and his Neo Con handlers, it may be that we'll at last get a no shits Fascist as the GOP nominee.

So is blatantly rigging an election to put in a dementia patient with the charisma of wet paper who couldn't fill up a Burger King. They don't care. They've demonstrated that they're perfectly willing to burn the country down if it means they can be king of the ashes.

The Ford rationale for pardoning Nixon will not work here

They want to exercise power. They want to be driven around in government limos and have foreign leaders and billionaires kiss their asses. They want to tell the little people what to do and where to go. They want to drop bombs on Afghan goat farmers and Syrian school children.

If you're a left wing Antifa/BLM type the next few years are not going to be good for you. The neo cons who will be running shit will want stability and they'll want it quickly. No more riots, no more burning cities. Everyone will be expected to get on board with killing brown people to save Democracy and moving what's left of our industry to China to save us from climate change. Opposition will not be tolerated, especially from the left. Biden will give no shits about deploying Fed troops and police to clear up any trouble, and the media will cheer him on while he does it.

As for Trump as long as he remains the leader of the GOP he can't be touched in any meaningful way. If they do go after him they guarantee him martyr status and likely mass chaos will ensue, which doesn't serve their interests.

 

[2021Murder]

A month ago we all agreed the end date would be this wenseday. Now the grifters want us to keep this up until when congress verifies the results next year.

When do you realize you're essentially like the people playing f2p games. Here to convince people to donate

 

[Bartleby]

This fraud was one of the worst short-term decisions possible

More specifically, pushing so hard for mail-in ballots (commonly derided for massive fraud potential even in the media up until the last few years) because muh coof and then removing as many verification safeguards as they could prior to the election, was their worst decision because they knew exactly what they were doing. It's still likely that all this happened because the higher-ups gave all the corrupt counties the means to pull off massive fraud rather than the higher-ups directly doing it themselves. So I hope that if Trump does pull this off, they don't get off the hook when it comes to public opinion- sadly, it's almost a guarantee that no matter what happens they won't ever be seeing the inside of a jail cell, but it should at least damage their chances in the future more than electoral reform already would. That's if Trump pulls this off though, since if he doesn't, then here's what the next electoral map will look like (may have colored outside the lines a bit):

Spoiler: 2024 prediction