Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[The Iconoclast]

Nice find. But are we sure it's her? The account details kinda don't match up unless she was identifying as trans way longer before i realized. Pluse the only people who commented calling her by her dead name seem recent as if you look at the dates. Unless im dumb these are from this year as no year is listed like comments below. So...?

Look at my other post

but TLDR Alchorative is Tara Callie and Tara Callie is Jerry

 

[Local Horny Valkyrie]

https://twitter.com/WitchyLizzy/status/1336181612225105922?s=20

Witchy Lizzy 🌖 (B*L*M) on Twitter: "TW: abuse I’ve decided to try sp…

archived 8 Dec 2020 11:39:03 UTC

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Interesting thread on Lizzy's Twitter. It seems like she is ready to talk more openly about her relationship with Lily.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

https://twitter.com/WitchyLizzy/status/1336181612225105922?s=20

https://archive.md/LHCJq

Interesting thread on Lizzy's Twitter. It seems like she is ready to talk more openly about her relationship with Lily.

Place your bets, people: Is Lilly going to have a public shitfit or batton down the hatches and stick her head in the ground trying to ignore everything in reference to this?

 

[Local Horny Valkyrie]

Place your bets, people: Is Lilly going to have a public shitfit or batton down the hatches and stick her head in the ground trying to ignore everything in reference to this?

So far there's been nothing on Lily's twitter, nor on Mikaila or Ginger's afaik. Her Tumblr has no posts about this either, so... for now she's trying to ignore it I guess.

 

[Devil-Man]

https://twitter.com/WitchyLizzy/status/1336181612225105922?s=20

https://archive.md/LHCJq

Interesting thread on Lizzy's Twitter. It seems like she is ready to talk more openly about her relationship with Lily.

So far there's been nothing on Lily's twitter, nor on Mikaila or Ginger's afaik. Her Tumblr has no posts about this either, so... for now she's trying to ignore it I guess.

No mention in either Discord sever yet, assuming nothing was deleted.

https://archive.vn/oEJrj

Needless to say, I'm sure everyone from all sides are intrigued to hear what she has to say. Well, except for her abusive ex, that is.

 

[SubarashiiRage]

with how much Lily demonizes she is surprising that Lizzy has avoided defending herself for two years, and Lily has not lost any steam in including Lizzy as the example of the most abusive person in her life (speaks more of her than her own parents) in each video , post and fanfic

we never bought the idea of Lizzy being the abuser. but we only had the inconsistent and melodramatic stories of Lily so now it will be good to have another side of the event even if Lizzy is melodramatic too

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I think the best course of action for Lily (assuming she doesn't just ignore it) is to be like "oh my God, Lizzy I had no idea. I'll try my best to change" and then pretend to have a happy ending so the problem is never explored more.

 

[thebananaonion]

bonnie: Mommy why tha mwean bitch speakin' shit bout you on twitter!
Lily: Language, young lady! Who taught you those words?
Bonnie: Maggie the mismagious.
Lily: Ugh i'll deal with her laeter.
Bonnie: Sawwy. but ish a thred on how mean you were!
Lily: Dont listen to her, sweetie. she likes to lie and manipulate people like that. Only ever listen to you mother, ok?
Bonnie: OKI!

i shouldn't give her ideas but bet you a spite comic will be made with a dialogue/ a theme similar to this in the future because lily is that petty.

And i'm glad lizzy finally realized she ows no abuser silece and that it's ok to come out abous being a victim. It's the best thing for victims to do especially in a place like twitter. as social media documents things like this well

 

[GayDemiBoy]

Needless to say, I'm sure everyone from all sides are intrigued to hear what she has to say. Well, except for her abusive ex, that is.

We know the only person who might give a listen is most likely KP and possibly Carousel. Sketchy has been Lily's friend for a while and believes anything and everything. Letting himself even be used as a defense for Lily whenever she needs to point to a black person and say they all then must agree with her via one black man with a cartoon milf kink. Mikalia and Ginger were friends with Lily before dating her and during her relationship with Lizzy. I wouldn't doubt that Mikalia made some vitriolic comments to Lizzy during it and said it was all her fault. Carousel I think would be the best person to have also come out and talk about her own experience with Lily romantically because we know Lily at best will just ignore and silence the topic of Lizzy talking about the abuse and at worse and most likely shit talk her to hell and back and say she's nothing but a gas lighting liar. But if Carousel collaborated with anything Lizzy said, had similar experiences, well Lily would be fucked. Lily didn't demonize Carousel like Lizzy and if she came out to agree Lily's audience might finally see a very clear pattern.

The only person Lily doesn't have full control over that's in her corner would be KP. While she's certainly kissing her ass harder than anyone has in a long time, it's not a good look to be working with an abusive person who gas lit, harrassed, and on some level stalked their ex for two years.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

Am I the only bothered by the fact Lizzie actually didn't say anything about what Liliana did while they were together? On that thread alone she just said she was abusive, didn't said how, and then proceded to talk about how her fanbase has treated her after the breakup. She should be able to speak about the harassment she suffered and the lies spread about her, but without her saying anything more substantial Liliana can easily say that she's not responsible for what her fanbase does when she is just "speaking the truth." She can just say that Lizzy is pissed people are "calling her out" and trying to spin the narrative. Don't be surprised if Liliana goes on a rant of all the good things she did for Lizzy (don't cut her penis, don't date other people she has a crush on, don't be sexual with strangers, buy her expensive gifts, don't mind when she was stabbed/rapen and Lizzy didn't stop her life for her) to say "would an abuser do any of that, how dares she to accuse me when I did everything I could for her".

If all Lizzy has to talk about is all that happened after the breakup then this is never going to be enough to disuade anyone that was on Liliana's side. We need concrete actions, screenshots if possible. Without it this is just a she said, she said competition to see who has the most good will from the public and that is going to result on Liliana winning simply because she already has people willing to turn off their brains to defend her.

 

[The Iconoclast]

https://twitter.com/WitchyLizzy/status/1336181612225105922?s=20

https://archive.md/LHCJq

Interesting thread on Lizzy's Twitter. It seems like she is ready to talk more openly about her relationship with Lily.

Why do these things always happen when I'm about to start my final exams?

Still the news that Lizzy was actually the one abused and that Lizzy is facing mass backlash is nothing new, though it's surprising that she finally decided after two years that Jerry spreading lies about her being the Wicked Witch of the West wasn't something that she should stand for, especially when the rumors Jerry constantly spreads could potentially cost her business in the form of art commissions. Plus, I mean, we told her this would happen lmfao

Good that she's speaking out but heck, about time. Lmao

Honestly though I don't expect a whole lot to come of this, Lizzy doesn't have a huge platform and she doesn't have the same community-backing that Jerry does, not to mention she's outright said that her only intention is to simply tell her story and not start any kind of mob, which, unfortunately, already means this is going to end in failure, and possibly end up worse on her if Jerry can successfully spin it to his advantage. Lizzy says herself:

And that's 100% true. Remember when Josh made his video back in 2016? The response from Jerry's fans (and Lizzy herself) was to automatically send messages of encouragement to Jerry because he was being "bombarded" by that evil scorchy man, without any regard for what was actually said in the video. My thoughts are that this is going to be done again, regardless of what's said or brought forward. I'm pretty sure this happened with Patchwork too, when it was revealed that Jerry treated Patchwork like shit and banned them from his discord because they threw self-pity parties, despite Jerry making videos about how much Patchwork needed money.

Am I the only bothered by the fact Lizzie actually didn't say anything about what Liliana did while they were together? On that thread alone she just said she was abusive, didn't said how, and then proceded to talk about how her fanbase has treated her after the breakup. She should be able to speak about the harassment she suffered and the lies spread about her, but without her saying anything more substantial Liliana can easily say that she's not responsible for what her fanbase does when she is just "speaking the truth."

If all Lizzy has to talk about is all that happened after the breakup then this is never going to be enough to disuade anyone that was on Liliana's side. We need concrete actions, screenshots if possible. Without it this is just a she said, she said competition to see who has the most good will from the public and that is going to result on Liliana winning simply because she already has people willing to turn off their brains to defend her.

Refer to what I said earlier, "Lizzy doesn't have a huge platform and she doesn't have the same community-backing that Jerry does, not to mention she's outright said that her only intention is to simply tell her story and not start any kind of mob, which, unfortunately, already means this is going to end in failure, and possibly end up worse on her if Jerry can successfully spin it to his advantage."

It's sad to admit, but Jerry is practically bulletproof in his own circle. He can pen outright pedophilia between his child OCs, flash his mantits on a youtube stream, say whatever he wants about anyone he wants, even his own fans, and everyone who enables him will still treat him like a victim. It's an incredibly absurd cult of personality, and I've noticed that a lot of Jerry's fans like to put him "first", as their "primary" content creator. Take solace, at least, that nobody really likes him outside of his own circle. So even this isn't going to convince anyone who has already taken a side, heck, even if Lizzy has receipts, because we know how prone Jerry is to claiming everything negative about him was manipulated or doctored in some way.

And that's not even accounting for the possibility that Jerry makes a video response to whatever she says.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I wonder if the recent comic inclusion was what prompted Lizzy to finally speak out.

 

[thebananaonion]

plus to add... nobody is entitled to know how someone was abused.

Call it a loss or sucky, but it's up to the victim to deal with the trauma/situation how they please. Yes i know we want to know the juicy stuff but at the end of the day, Lizzy is a real person, not a character we want to know every detail about. She has all the right in the world not to share how lily was abusive because even coming out as a victim/survivor of abuse is already hard as fuck for people like her. Going into detail can be even more fucked.

We can speculate all we want but we shouldn't be disheartened/angry/ or especially pry her on how lily was abusive. it's just not our place. only hers to say in her own time or never share that info as quite frankly, it's none of our business.

Again, i know the feeling of wanting to know so we have a gotcha on lily, but this specific case isnt about lily, even though she was involved, but it;s about Lizzy. And we need to respect her boundaries on this.

 

[Local Horny Valkyrie]

Am I the only bothered by the fact Lizzie actually didn't say anything about what Liliana did while they were together? On that thread alone she just said she was abusive, didn't said how, and then proceded to talk about how her fanbase has treated her after the breakup. She should be able to speak about the harassment she suffered and the lies spread about her, but without her saying anything more substantial Liliana can easily say that she's not responsible for what her fanbase does when she is just "speaking the truth." She can just say that Lizzy is pissed people are "calling her out" and trying to spin the narrative. Don't be surprised if Liliana goes on a rant of all the good things she did for Lizzy (don't cut her penis, don't date other people she has a crush on, don't be sexual with strangers, buy her expensive gifts, don't mind when she was stabbed/rapen and Lizzy didn't stop her life for her) to say "would an abuser do any of that, how dares she to accuse me when I did everything I could for her".

If all Lizzy has to talk about is all that happened after the breakup then this is never going to be enough to disuade anyone that was on Liliana's side. We need concrete actions, screenshots if possible. Without it this is just a she said, she said competition to see who has the most good will from the public and that is going to result on Liliana winning simply because she already has people willing to turn off their brains to defend her.

In all fairness, Lizzy seemed to just announce in the thread that she will talk about Lily's behaviour; when that is actually going to happen isn't really known. I'm assuming she will elaborate in the future about what exactly happened, and when she does, I also hope she brings screenshots

 

[Son Goku Baku]

I hate this chapter, but not for the reasons you might think.

Chapter 7: Dateless When We Turn 16

Spoiler

+This is when Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle go to the house of Rainbow to have sex. Once they are there, Fluttershy is taking Rainbow out for a picnic. Apple Bloom and Sweetie have a little meal in which Apple Bloom finds Viagra on Rainow’s fridge of all places, and Sweetie Belle know what is for but neither know why Rainbow has it yet. I don't know why Rainbow keeps Viagra when she has clearly never had a problem when it came to having an erection. I suppose this is Liliana doing a poor job at setting things up.

+They go upstair, to Rainbow’s room where Rainbow said her bed was big and comfortable, like a creep. After some talking because they are nervous about it, they start fingering and licking each other “down there.” Do you want to know how long and detailed this scene between two 14 years old girls having sex is? From the moment Sweetie Belle jumps to kiss Apple Bloom until they both came from their sexual activity, it was 2.051 words. We are talking description of their young bodies, description of them going down on each other, during which event we find out that Apple Bloom tastes like honey and candy and Sweetie Belle tastes like vanilla and peppermint, and long drawn out explanations of what each of them felt during all of this.

+Rainbow is nowhere to be seen during none of this, so she can’t used as an excuse on any sort of way to justify this.

-After they’re done, Sweetie Belle confesses that she has used the vibrator of Rarity before but Apple Bloom made her feel better. Sweetie Belle recalls how Rarity find her out one time and they had a talk in which she told her about what she felt for Apple Bloom, so in a way she is glad for using the sex toy of her sister.

+Apple Bloom talks about how grateful she is to Fluttershy and Rainbow because they made her realice a bunch of things and gave her some relationship advice. This leads her to realizing she never said to Sweetie Belle that she was gay. She does it now and Sweetie Belle says she too is gay. Yay. But now they’are talking about how they find out and Sweetie Belle talks about how she realized by watching her sister naked while she was changing clothes and found out that she wanted to do sexual things with other girls after finding “classy naked magazines” on Rarity’s room. When Apple Bloom is shocked to learn this, Sweetie Belle say that she wouldn’t try anything with her sister because “it’s illegal”, which is a common thing on this entire fic. Nothing is wrong because it hurts people or makes them miserable. It’s wrong because it’s illegal.

+Apple Bloom asks her what did she think when thinking of Rarity on that way and this is the response:

“Just that… if I was older… If we weren’t sisters… I don’t know… I thought if something worked out, we’d be...doing stuff…” Sweetie Belle blushed more, “I even wondered what it’d be like if we were just closer in age and kind of explored each other like that. But I guess I just… kind of realized it’d be nice… if I did all this stuff with her.”

+Liliana is really one trick pony, isn’t she. Apple Bloom doesn’t have fantasies like that about Applejack but comments that “it’s sweet.” They both have a nap on Rainbow’s bed.

+After a while, Rainbow and Fluttershy come home. When seeing the two little girls naked on her bed, Rainbow says this:

“This is like that dream I had that one time,” Rainbow remarked quietly, “Only I’m not Empress of the Universe.”

+She and Fluttershy have some banter. They want to fuck but they don’t want to be find out. Then Rainbow find out that the camera she set up for a porn video that she made with Fluttershy accidentally also recorded the little girls sex session. Fluttershy suggest that they can edit it out, but Rainbow is concerned that she will have to watch it to edit it out so instead prefers to delete it all. Rainbow is pretty shaken about possesing child pornography and Fluttershy is there to tell her that it’s fine, it was an accident and they deleted it, so no harm done.

“Pouting sympathetically, Fluttershy placed the remote down, then got back up to sit in her lap, though in a comforting manner this time. “It’s all right. We’ll make sure it’s completely gone. It was just an accident, we won’t let it happen again.”



“I know, Shy, but this isn’t just someone stumbling onto some illegal website because they clicked the wrong kind of link,” Rainbow said, shivering a little, “I joke about it when I can, but… the fact that I have those kinds of desires really scares me. And when stuff like this happens… I’m always afraid I’ll either turn into one of those nutjobs you see on the news, or someone else might find it before I do and next thing I know people are telling stories about me while I’m sitting in jail.”

+None of Rainbow’s concerns include the victims’s wellbeing or suffering. She is concerned about how it will affect her, not how Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle would feel about having their first time having sex recorded by an admitted pedophile. This reminds me way too much to Liliana saying that she doesn’t care about doing anything about covid more than what the law forces her to do. Then it was used as an excuse to be lazy and complain because Liliana wanted to suck Mikaila’s dick. Here is used as the only reason why Rainbow is not a serial predator yet.

+But this doesn’t matter to Fluttershy, who assures her that she knows she won’t ever do anything to hurt anyone even if she has those desires, that they only have to think about the consequences and it’s alright again. Despite nobody yelling or making any kind of sound that could be heard from upstair, Sweetie Belle somehow knew that Rainbow was distressed and comes down to ask what is happening. Rainbow tells her that everything is fine and Sweetie Belle hugs her to thank her for letting them use her house. While hugging her, Rainbow gets aroused, like a creep, and Sweetie Belle is alarmed when something is poking her ass. This is when both she and Fluttershy explain to her that Rainbow has a penis.

+Then Sweetie Belle asks why the cock was poking at her. Rainbow mumbles an apology and rans off the room while crying, the poor little creep, so Fluttershy is left there tasked with the job to explain to this little girl that the adult she specifically was worried about because of the way that looked at her and her friends is in fact a pedophile. But she doesn’t say it exactly like that. She say that Rainbow has a “hormonal imbalances at times and it can even affect her sex drive a little bit” and she does find women attractive, teenagers or adults, which includes her and the other Crusaders. I don’t know why she felt the need to tell this to one of those teenagers when on the last chapter she actually said this is exactly the kind of stuff you should never share with them, but she does and finishes that despite sounding terrifying Rainbow would never do anything to hurt her or any teenager for that matter.

“This isn’t something she’s proud of, but she can’t help it. That’s why it was… poking at you like that. She ended up a bit aroused. Please, don’t be afraid. She’s already struggling with this enough. But I understand you’re uncomfortable, it’s normal. It’s just how it is…” She said, looking into her eyes, her voice breaking a little.

+Sweetie Belle doesn’t say anything in response and goes to talk to Rainbow. Instead of having any kind of character consistency, Sweetie Belle apoligizes to this adult woman for making her aroused. Rainbow is so mature and responsible by telling her that she has nothing to be sorry about because she understand that everyone would react like she did. I disagree since the reaction of Sweetie Belle was mild confusion at best since she didn’t even knew what was happening until Rainbow had already gone off the room. Then they have this conversation:

“Yeah… but you ran off pretty upset,” Sweetie Belle said, “Are you okay?”



“No. I’m not,” Rainbow muttered bitterly, looking away from her, “If you hadn’t reacted when you did… I wouldn’t have been able to trust myself. That’s why Fluttershy made sure I was gone while you guys were here.”



“So… is what she said true? You really think about the three of us that way?” Sweetie Belle asked.



Shifting in her spot, not responding for a few moments, Rainbow nodded. “Yes. I think teen girls are sexy. You guys just happen to be like little sisters to me, especially Scootaloo.”

+Sweetie giggles at this, saying that Scootaloo would have a obssessed fan moment if she heard.

“Believe me, I know,” Rainbow sighed, trying to see the light of the moment, but was losing the battle, “Look kiddo, I’m sorry. I’m not about to do anything to you girls, or anyone for that matter. I just…. I still don’t trust myself. I just have a feeling I’ll snap one of these days. I’d hate for anyone to be my target when that happens…”



“Rainbow, I don’t think you’d ever hurt anyone… at least not intentionally. I remember Fluttershy had a concussion after you tried that backflip off the roof…” Sweetie giggled at the memory, hugging her around the waist, “Why are you talking about yourself like you’re some kind of monster? You’re not a monster, you’re Rainbow Dash. Rainbow Dash is awesome!”

Chuckling a little, Rainbow smiled, “Both you and Fluttershy said the same thing. Guess maybe I’m overreacting… Thanks, kiddo, you’re pretty awesome yourself.”

+Rainbow guess she is overreacting for being concerned about being a pedophile having erections and fantasies about the vulnerable kid that is in front of her. You the reader are supposed to sympathize with her on this situation. She just can't help to have erections in front of kids like a creep.

+For some reason, meaning Liliana setting up something horrible that is going to happen later on, Sweetie Belle asks Rainbow if she has a girlfriend and Rainbow say that no, but it’s fine because she can masturbate. This a appropiate conversation to have with a minor to whom you just confessed to find sexually attractive. Then Sweetie Belle say that by the time she and Apple Bloom are 16 Rainbow can call them if she is still dateless, namedropping the chapter. Rainbow laugh at this.

+Sweetie Belle then asks about the nudes of Fluttershy that she found on her drawers. They both gush about how sexy and adorable Fluttershy is. Sweetie Belle tells Rainbow that she loves her and thanks her again for letting them have sex on her house. Rainbow tells her that she loves her too and thanks her for understanding her pain for being a pedophile.

+When both Sweetie and Apple Bloom go out, Rainbow finds a note that Sweetie Belle left on her room. On said note Sweetie tells her that she doesn’t need to worry about anything because she won’t say a thing about her being a pedophile and talks about leaving a present for Rainbow to make up for all the trouble. Rainbow looks under her pillow and discovers that Sweetie left her panties for her. She thinks this is a “kind gesture” and puts them on her own drawer alongside her own underwear.

“Thanks, kiddo. You really do live up to your name,” Rainbow murmured, patting the panties before closing the drawer.”

+The end.

Next Chapter: That Silly Nutcase With The Flashy Thing

Estimated time remaining: 8 Hours, 40 Minutes

 

[Campbell-Duo]

https://twitter.com/WitchyLizzy/status/1336181612225105922?s=20

https://archive.md/LHCJq

Interesting thread on Lizzy's Twitter. It seems like she is ready to talk more openly about her relationship with Lily.

>Lily joins twitter only to get mocked on mass and her shit exposed along with stockholm
>lizzy finally decides to speak up about her abuse after Lily for years lied about it

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

It occurs to me seeing the Stockholm excerpts that I did actually skim through one of the stories once, or one of the later chapters, in a fit of curiosity-- not about the obvious content, but because (and I don't actually remember where I saw this) one of the stories was associated with the trope Wham Episode, talking about how Adagio Dazzle dies in a car accident and there's no melodrama and it was included because these kinds of things happen and life sucks and the family just had to deal with it. I jumped ahead to the last chapter of that story looking for this occurrence out of morbid curiosity, having heard secondhand what Stockholm was like and wondering if perhaps the writing was as mature as the Tropes listing made it out to be.

When I finally found the passage I was astounded at how terrible it was. You would think that if a character experienced a fatal car accident you would actually get it from their perspective, or have the family see the aftermath, but nope! The entire thing was literally a phone call telling them that Momma Adagio was dead and then everybody hugged and melodramatically cried and I think a young child in the other room wandered and asked why everybody was so sad and it was like a scene out of a Very Special Episode from an 80s sitcom, written in the most basic prose you could imagine.

I bring this up because it occurred to me -- between that memory and seeing the samples again -- that Lily has not evolved at all as a writer since Stockholm was published. The only thing of note in these fics is the taboo subject matter, which is presented in an almost comically dry and disinterested way. 'Yes Sweetie Belle kiddo, I do indeed experience feelings for underage girls. I find you very attractive. But I am not a bad person.' 'No, Rainbow Dash, I do not think you are a bad person.' I mean points for really sticking to her guns on the whole 'make nothing ambiguous for your audience' thing but holy shit her writing has not gotten any better at all. It's still as drab and boring, the character voices uninspired, the prose yawn-inducing. If these stories weren't pedophile apologia, they wouldn't be anything at all. Certainly not 'grimdark romantic comedy'.

I would ask how that's possible, but given that Lily doesn't seem to actually read books I guess it's not surprising she never picked up better habits through osmosis.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

It occurs to me seeing the Stockholm excerpts that I did actually skim through one of the stories once, or one of the later chapters, in a fit of curiosity-- not about the obvious content, but because (and I don't actually remember where I saw this) one of the stories was associated with the trope Wham Episode, talking about how Adagio Dazzle dies in a car accident and there's no melodrama and it was included because these kinds of things happen and life sucks and the family just had to deal with it. I jumped ahead to the last chapter of that story looking for this occurrence out of morbid curiosity, having heard secondhand what Stockholm was like and wondering if perhaps the writing was as mature as the Tropes listing made it out to be.

When I finally found the passage I was astounded at how terrible it was. You would think that if a character experienced a fatal car accident you would actually get it from their perspective, or have the family see the aftermath, but nope! The entire thing was literally a phone call telling them that Momma Adagio was dead and then everybody hugged and melodramatically cried and I think a young child in the other room wandered and asked why everybody was so sad and it was like a scene out of a Very Special Episode from an 80s sitcom, written in the most basic prose you could imagine.

I bring this up because it occurred to me -- between that memory and seeing the samples again -- that Lily has not evolved at all as a writer since Stockholm was published. The only thing of note in these fics is the taboo subject matter, which is presented in an almost comically dry and disinterested way. 'Yes Sweetie Belle kiddo, I do indeed experience feelings for underage girls. I find you very attractive. But I am not a bad person.' 'No, Rainbow Dash, I do not think you are a bad person.' I mean points for really sticking to her guns on the whole 'make nothing ambiguous for your audience' thing but holy shit her writing has not gotten any better at all. It's still as drab and boring, the character voices uninspired, the prose yawn-inducing. If these stories weren't pedophile apologia, they wouldn't be anything at all. Certainly not 'grimdark romantic comedy'.

I would ask how that's possible, but given that Lily doesn't seem to actually read books I guess it's not surprising she never picked up better habits through osmosis.

If I had to guess, a reason why Liliana hasn't changed as a writer in all these years, just like why she keeps repeating the same incestuous fantasy over and over again no matter the format, fandom or characters, it's because she already thinks her prose is perfect just like it is.

Whenever she is asked about what she enjoys about writing or what she thinks her strong suit is, she responds with dialogue, not prose or narration or description and we all know already what is her opinion about worldbuilding. She likes what she does and sees no reason to try to improve it. Writing is just like any other skill: it requires work in order to improve but you are not going to put the work if you don't think there is anything to improve. All her stories are entirely self serving and as long they satisfy her and she gets the validation that she craves, that is all that matters.

She probably holds the same opinion about prose that she holds for graphic art, that it's just a vehicle to deliver a good or bad story and don't have any weight on their own. The only reason we don't hear her talk about that is because it's irrelevant since she already said only cares about dialogue anyway.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

>Lily joins twitter only to get mocked on mass and her shit exposed along with stockholm
>lizzy finally decides to speak up about her abuse after Lily for years lied about it
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When I finally found the passage I was astounded at how terrible it was. You would think that if a character experienced a fatal car accident you would actually get it from their perspective, or have the family see the aftermath, but nope! The entire thing was literally a phone call telling them that Momma Adagio was dead and then everybody hugged and melodramatically cried and I think a young child in the other room wandered and asked why everybody was so sad and it was like a scene out of a Very Special Episode from an 80s sitcom, written in the most basic prose you could imagine.

I bring this up because it occurred to me -- between that memory and seeing the samples again -- that Lily has not evolved at all as a writer since Stockholm was published. The only thing of note in these fics is the taboo subject matter, which is presented in an almost comically dry and disinterested way. 'Yes Sweetie Belle kiddo, I do indeed experience feelings for underage girls. I find you very attractive. But I am not a bad person.' 'No, Rainbow Dash, I do not think you are a bad person.' I mean points for really sticking to her guns on the whole 'make nothing ambiguous for your audience' thing but holy shit her writing has not gotten any better at all. It's still as drab and boring, the character voices uninspired, the prose yawn-inducing. If these stories weren't pedophile apologia, they wouldn't be anything at all. Certainly not 'grimdark romantic comedy'.

I would ask how that's possible, but given that Lily doesn't seem to actually read books I guess it's not surprising she never picked up better habits through osmosis.

Is Lily's answer to fucking everything dramatic just a kid wandering in and asking what happened?
Like we just recently got that with Bonnie in the pokemon comic. She's been writing this same shit for years and she thinks she can lecture people on how to write?

Look I just remembered she did this during the mindrape arc

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I think this is why people found her writing tips so insulting.
She only cares about certain things in writing, and has been writing those same things for years.
So when she publicly talks down to people about how her preferences are better and how she's any kind of authority on writing, it's like taking a fart to the face.

 

[Ben Laden]

It occurs to me seeing the Stockholm excerpts that I did actually skim through one of the stories once, or one of the later chapters, in a fit of curiosity-- not about the obvious content, but because (and I don't actually remember where I saw this) one of the stories was associated with the trope Wham Episode, talking about how Adagio Dazzle dies in a car accident and there's no melodrama and it was included because these kinds of things happen and life sucks and the family just had to deal with it. I jumped ahead to the last chapter of that story looking for this occurrence out of morbid curiosity, having heard secondhand what Stockholm was like and wondering if perhaps the writing was as mature as the Tropes listing made it out to be.

When I finally found the passage I was astounded at how terrible it was. You would think that if a character experienced a fatal car accident you would actually get it from their perspective, or have the family see the aftermath, but nope! The entire thing was literally a phone call telling them that Momma Adagio was dead and then everybody hugged and melodramatically cried and I think a young child in the other room wandered and asked why everybody was so sad and it was like a scene out of a Very Special Episode from an 80s sitcom, written in the most basic prose you could imagine.

I bring this up because it occurred to me -- between that memory and seeing the samples again -- that Lily has not evolved at all as a writer since Stockholm was published. The only thing of note in these fics is the taboo subject matter, which is presented in an almost comically dry and disinterested way. 'Yes Sweetie Belle kiddo, I do indeed experience feelings for underage girls. I find you very attractive. But I am not a bad person.' 'No, Rainbow Dash, I do not think you are a bad person.' I mean points for really sticking to her guns on the whole 'make nothing ambiguous for your audience' thing but holy shit her writing has not gotten any better at all. It's still as drab and boring, the character voices uninspired, the prose yawn-inducing. If these stories weren't pedophile apologia, they wouldn't be anything at all. Certainly not 'grimdark romantic comedy'.

I would ask how that's possible, but given that Lily doesn't seem to actually read books I guess it's not surprising she never picked up better habits through osmosis.

Reason Lily doesn't seem to care much for prose or description or anything about writing besides dialogue is, yeah, she's only ever watched children's cartoons and video games. Mediums where the audience can't see all of your prose and description because it's been brought to life before their eyes, so they only hear the dialogue. That's why Lily puts so much emphasis on it, because that's all she really knows. Her stories are more like scripts, and scripts beg for some kind of visual medium to bring them to life, whether it's in the form of a comic, a film, a stage play, etc. Ironically, her writing is the kind that would rely on having some kind of visual element to really 'sell' it.

'Yeah, that line was cringe-worthy, but just look at those expressions! And that music that kicks in is heart-wrenching!'