Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I've stopped with most media.
As have I once I tired of the dooming and glooming both regarding COVID and regarding the media's endless hateboner for Trump and anything with any sort of conservative beliefs while claiming the Democrats would fix everything wrong with the US.

I've only ever seen one guy wear a visor(...)
The only person I've seen wearing a shield is an older person who might be unable to wear masks for a legitimate health reason. I find it confusing 🤷‍♂️ that visors are allowed in lieu of masks but they're somehow inadequate for hockey players that wear them as part of their normal gear when the powers that be deiced that hockey was too unsafe to allow for the time being.

We'll be living with the societal damage of all this for many years.
Earlier today, someone on a different forum explained how (TL;DR) California's tiered system is so confusing and messed up that it's virtually impossible for those parts of the states in the worst-rated tier to move up to a better tier. I couldn't help thinking of your updates, @JosephStalin, and how I feel for anyone there stuck in that situation who simply just wants to enjoy a normal daily life again.

A teenager in Maine, committed suicide due to isolation.
Too many adults have failed kids both in terms of coping skills and these lockdowns that have taken away the social and emotional development they need at that stage in their lives.. *sigh*
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This poor kid and his family. This needs more attention, but of course it will get pushed aside and shrugged off as some tragic inevitability of COVID because it doesn't fit The Narrative.

Human beings are NOT meant to be isolated, especially not for extended periods of time. It causes people to go insane for a reason, and it's why isolation in prisons is one of the most inhumane punishments you can dole out. We are social animals, but now are being instructed that merely by existing in society and seeing loved ones we are "actively killing people," a true mindfuck for those in the double bind of needing socialization to stop from killing themselves.

Kids need more than fucking Zoom calls and "talking to friends" on the phone while doing virtual schooling. Teens are especially susceptible to suicide and suicidal ideation, as they have underdeveloped pre-frontal cortexes and are prone to high emotionality. To a vulnerable teen, this pandemic must literally feel like the end of the world.
 
Why are we giving it to octogenarians and nonagenarians?
Because those are the people at risk of severe infections (the kind that result in death & lingering injury).

An 8% of death from COVID-19 vs an unknown chance of side effects from a vaccine is honestly not a bad trade-off when you're only looking at 2-10 years left anyways.
You'd expect the younger ones to be vaccinated so that their elderly loved ones will be at least safe. Anyway, if it's so deadly to the elderly, why are they giving it to them?
Because its not a live-virus vaccine.
 
As have I once I tired of the dooming and glooming both regarding COVID and regarding the media's endless hateboner for Trump and anything with any sort of conservative beliefs while claiming the Democrats would fix everything wrong with the US.


The only person I've seen wearing a shield is an older person who might be able to wear masks for a legitimate health reason. I find it confusing 🤷‍♂️ that visors are allowed in lieu of masks but they're somehow inadequate for hockey players that wear them as part of their normal gear when the powers that be deiced that hockey was too unsafe to allow for the time being.

I don't know if there's been actual studies, but I don't actually think the face shields accomplish anything beyond making you look like a fucking jackass. I see a lot of really old people and people with COPD wearing them because the masks aren't doable for them, I don't think they know or care if it does anything but they just want to be let into Wal Mart.

The lower face shields are a whole different level of ridiculous.

Can't remember if I mentioned it in this thread or not but shout out to the guy I saw in like April going around with an old fashioned plague doctor mask. I hope he's still doing his thing. I'd get one if I had the patience or the balls, but that would be a really dumb way to get fired.

Ontario is having screenings to be let into private businesses. They just ask you if you have symptoms or have travelled but I guaranfuckingtee precisely no one is gonna say yes when they have shit to do and it's just creating long lines. The screenings can be replaced with signage which I'm sure is just as useful. Places are enforcing capacity limits again, there's so much fucking work for entry level private security guys right now it's ridiculous. I saw signs a few weeks ago that places were going to take down your information for contact tracing but they're gone now and I never heard anything else about that, so I don't know what that was about.

Government is shilling some Covid app that they stress is completely secure, private, voluntary, and anonymous. I'm sure that information (which if you have phone service is tied to your actual identity plus whatever Google/Apple has on you) being routed through a bunch of private computers belonging to the thousands of nobodies hired to work remotely as contact tracers has no vulnerable spots. Information about test results is apparently being relayed through the fucking thing too but I'm not clear on how that works. That kind of seems like it's chewing up PHIPA and shitting out its corpse but what do I know.

Vaccine is being administered on a small time basis apparently? It won't be "mandatory" but there's talk of various ways of bullying people into it. Having corona and recovering would not make you exempt by the way. The fuck is that about? I can slime my way out of it with medical exemptions or religious objection but if it comes down to it, it's not hard to get fake documents and I will not narc on people who do. I don't want to kick up shit with the Human Rights Tribunal because they are scummy Yaniv-enabling faggots but I'm not above playing dirty and getting them involved. They defend niggers who get caught shoplifting and complain they would have got away with it if they weren't black, they defend troons who want to wank in the ladies' room, surely some asshole who doesn't want a mostly experimental vax because of [bullshit idpol reason/medical reason] is a slam dunk.

Toronto is on "lockdown" but for some reason the daily traffic jams are still the exact same. The news mentioned "unconventional solutions" to potential ICU shortages and implied it's gonna be something like pop up military hospitals but I think it really means they're going to dump their trash on Hamilton (and to a lesser extent Halton and Niagara) and deny it like usual, like they do with their nursing home people, jailbirds and bums. Toronto is fucking pozzed and the people with money and sense are all fleeing into huge, beautiful properties out west where they can work remotely now, so that's a good thing I guess, health care and other services are sketchy out there but it should get better if the communities grow. I know a lot of people hate or can't work well remotely (and get lazy) but tbh God bless Zoom, so much officey shit can be done at home if you've got a good connection and the discipline to do it. I foresee data security becoming a massive issue though.

Oh and there are a bunch of scammers calling people and asking for their social insurance number and shit telling them they'll be put on a list for corona vaccine. I like to think no one would be that stupid but I've met someone who fell for fake "account suspended" texts from her "bank" like every fucking month so I know rubes are out there. Plus people with dementia and shit. Logically they would need your health card number and not your SIN but you can't get payday loans with a health card number. People who give strange pajeets who call them from random private numbers identifying info probably aren't so great with logic though. Jokes aside - Kiwis, if you know any kids or gullible boomers who may be susceptible to this, please warn them.

Anyhow, fuck Trudeau and fuck Toronto.
 
A weird wrinkle - a woman my mom met refuses to take the vaccine because it's derived from aborted babies. This appears to be a just barely justifiable position as some of the virus development was done on stem cells from an abortion decades ago: https://www.catholicnews.com/pro-li...weigh-in-on-development-of-covid-19-vaccines/
Supposedly now that the vaccine has been proven effective, they're making it from less controversial sources.
 
Well this is terrifying.

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"What's terrifying about it? The US and UK govts have made it illegal for people to sue us over side-effects. It's a non-issue" -- Some Pfizer executive.


(And yes, the US govt. has done that and the UK govt has de facto done that. There's no insurance company that is willing to underwrite vaccine safety especially something with as little testing as the new Covid mra vaccine. And the vaccine themselves wont put their money where their mouth is because they know there's a possibility they could cause massive harm through their vaccines. So in order to persuade the vaccine companies to go ahead, the govts make laws protecting the companies from being sued for any harm they cause. Check it out.

I've had lots of vaccinations - I like them on principle. Doesn't mean I trust everything I'm told - especially when there's a financial gain of billions for those making it and the law protects them if they get it wrong).
 
I'm more and more worried about the psychological impact that this year of terror propaganda had. People are begging to be spanked harder and harder. So completely wrecked by fear that they'll accept any and all loss of freedom if only Daddy Government makes the virus go away, and punishes those not getting in line. This is the most effective propaganda for collectivism I've ever seen. People are developing almost puritanical zeal for controlling the behaviour of their fellow men.
I fear that even if the situation will ever be made better with vaccines and so on it'll have caused significant damage.
 

This is actually a clever move that could increase black participation. Speaks to their omnipresent oppositional defiant disorder.

And I’m 100% in favor of prioritizing teachers. Whatever gets these fat cunts back in the goddamn classroom doing their actual jobs for something approaching *real* is fine with me. Here, everyone is back in physical school who wants to be.
 
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"What's terrifying about it? The US and UK govts have made it illegal for people to sue us over side-effects. It's a non-issue" -- Some Pfizer executive.


(And yes, the US govt. has done that and the UK govt has de facto done that. There's no insurance company that is willing to underwrite vaccine safety especially something with as little testing as the new Covid mra vaccine. And the vaccine themselves wont put their money where their mouth is because they know there's a possibility they could cause massive harm through their vaccines. So in order to persuade the vaccine companies to go ahead, the govts make laws protecting the companies from being sued for any harm they cause. Check it out.

I've had lots of vaccinations - I like them on principle. Doesn't mean I trust everything I'm told - especially when there's a financial gain of billions for those making it and the law protects them if they get it wrong).

You know, if it was just that, feeling like shit and being knocked on your ass for a day or two with no real danger apart from the one or two unlucky bastards who are allergic, I'd not think it was a big deal in all honesty. The ass covering when it comes to potential lawsuits is where it gets iffy for me. Standard procedure and probably wouldn't even hold up, but they are just not forthcoming enough with what the fuck is actually in there that I see the potential for a lot of people to end up with chronic autoimmune disorders and inflammation (usually just a relatively minor ballache, but if it attacks organs you've got a problem) and/or clots forming and fucking you right up (which considering we're going to be experimenting on fats and olds, again, you've got a problem). Not an issue in the trials, yet, supposedly, but scale it up to billions of people, most with pre-existing conditions?

I tried to research what precisely is in them and how good the early phase trials were, but it's all dead ends, idk lol, and yeah it's safe we swear, it's peer reviewed. Why did so many people flake out of the studies? Probably just typical shitty retention and lockdown chaos, but for all I know they could be fucking dead, it doesn't say. There is so much conflicting information, probably a fair amount of outright bullshit, scientists admitting they have no clue, and the studies just look slapdash and shitty. If some of them end up working as advertised, that's a huge fucking bonus, but the way scientists and policy makers are running around in circles pulling things out of their asses left and right doesn't exactly inspire confidence. "It's totally tested, safe, and effective. Unless it isn't in which case you can't sue us, get fucked." That's a hard "no thanks" from me.
 
You know, if it was just that, feeling like shit and being knocked on your ass for a day or two with no real danger apart from the one or two unlucky bastards who are allergic, I'd not think it was a big deal in all honesty. The ass covering when it comes to potential lawsuits is where it gets iffy for me. Standard procedure and probably wouldn't even hold up, but they are just not forthcoming enough with what the fuck is actually in there that I see the potential for a lot of people to end up with chronic autoimmune disorders and inflammation (usually just a relatively minor ballache, but if it attacks organs you've got a problem) and/or clots forming and fucking you right up (which considering we're going to be experimenting on fats and olds, again, you've got a problem). Not an issue in the trials, yet, supposedly, but scale it up to billions of people, most with pre-existing conditions?

I tried to research what precisely is in them and how good the early phase trials were, but it's all dead ends, idk lol, and yeah it's safe we swear, it's peer reviewed. Why did so many people flake out of the studies? Probably just typical shitty retention and lockdown chaos, but for all I know they could be fucking dead, it doesn't say. There is so much conflicting information, probably a fair amount of outright bullshit, scientists admitting they have no clue, and the studies just look slapdash and shitty. If some of them end up working as advertised, that's a huge fucking bonus, but the way scientists and policy makers are running around in circles pulling things out of their asses left and right doesn't exactly inspire confidence. "It's totally tested, safe, and effective. Unless it isn't in which case you can't sue us, get fucked." That's a hard "no thanks" from me.
The indemnity from lawsuits is normal, a few cases have been settled over the last few years that were brought by people who developed narcolepsy after getting the Pandemrix swine flu shot. They got payouts so that's something, but they all had to sue their governments rather than the manufacturer.
 
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