2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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If it went to trial they'd demonstrate in more detail and explain it.
Maybe so, but it would be more effective to offer up any kind of argument as to why it is nonsense beyond just saying as much. That specific part isn't very good briefing, but they were operating under significant time constraints so they weren't going to produce a masterpiece.
 
That's a good way to cause our century's equivalent of Boston Massacre.
If the SC takes it and just instantly throws it out, Biden will basically face an insurgency his entire presidency. He will be four years of nothing while everything he does gets flouted, because the SC just gave everyone carte blanche to say 'fuck it'. It will be four years of putting out fires while he's torn apart constantly.
 
Maybe so, but it would be more effective to offer up any kind of argument as to why it is nonsense beyond just saying as much. That specific part isn't very good briefing, but they were operating under significant time constraints so they weren't going to produce a masterpiece.
Not really, because the Texas briefing didn't really go into detail either, other than just making the claims. The rebuttal isn't really a place where you're supposed to go super into detail. It's kind of like a highlight reel versus an entire game
 
If the SC takes it and just instantly throws it out, Biden will basically face an insurgency his entire presidency. He will be four years of nothing while everything he does gets flouted, because the SC just gave everyone carte blanche to say 'fuck it'. It will be four years of putting out fires while he's torn apart constantly.
Once again, remember how Biden was supposed to win and everything would be calm and normal?
Hilarious how that works out.
 
Has this been posted yet?
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>their votes were counted - in some cases multiple times
How do you fuck up this bad? Don't they get that's the exactly the problem?



You sir have given me a good laugh

He had two brain aneurysms in 1988. This fact doesn't get mentioned a lot for obvious reasons

He called them 'dumb bastards'. The quote was most certainly not out of context.
I interpreted it as a clumsy attempt at friendly banter that falls flat because it's not coming from a genuine place and he's assuming familiarity that's just not there. Like if your jackass boss that you barely see just casually calls you nigga.
 
One thing I'll miss about Trump is that he says the quiet part outloud on foreign policy
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Once again, remember how Biden was supposed to win and everything would be calm and normal?
Hilarious how that works out.

It's delightful to watch in motion. I enjoy every moment of these limp-wristed faggots trying to defend Joe when more and more people are coming to understand how much of an establishment cocksucker he is. That goes for every one of his supporters.

Reset us, I fucking dare you. Half the country is already telling you to fuck off, better make a better case than these autistic 'NO U' arguments. Might of worked for some activist judges who were already committed to stonewalling the procedure, but it ain't gonna work in the highest court.
 
reading the PA defense is making wonder how this is their best?
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This level of ad hom in a brief may be fine for the initial complaint on a trial court level, but it is not acceptable for a brief to the Supreme Court. It's not a deal breaker, but it looks bad as hell and certainly won't endear you to the justices.
 
Not really, because the Texas briefing didn't really go into detail either, other than just making the claims. The rebuttal isn't really a place where you're supposed to go super into detail. It's kind of like a highlight reel versus an entire game
True, and I also admit that I needed to have read the document more clearly, because they did make some more reasoned arguments about it in the following paragraphs, albeit with some pretty sharp language for a SCOTUS filing. Mea culpa on that one.
 
I think everyone is quick to dismiss the respondent filings, they're are going to take a long time to read through because they are full of references to other court cases, so you'd have to read those too (unless you're a lawyer i guess). on page 9 of PA's filing says SCOTUS only uses original jurisdiction sparingly then cites orig._148_state_of_missouri_v._cal.pdf (justice.gov).

So i started reading and PA has a point that SCOTUS used original sparingly for 40+ years and federalism isn't enought to invoke original jurisdiction. Now, I'ven't read texas' filling yet so i don't know if they address this.

The silver lining is that the Case that PA cites is about commerce issues between Missouri and California regarding egg laws. which doesn't have the same weight as an election.

page 11 mo v ca said:
The Court held that the Constitution requires a “direct issue between” the States for this Court to exercise original jurisdiction. Id. at 18.
has anyone read the texas filing? i might start over with that one.
 
Anyone saying the SC should disregard this is a fucking mongoloid retard that demonstrates they don't know shit about politics. The SC ignoring this is the worst fucking decision they could possibly enact, now that its basically a political civil war. As others have said, this election is basically a catalyst for tension that has been brewing for a long time and has only gotten worse with COVID. Its the erosion of state power and the conflict between states that have seen to have too much influence on policy. Now that other states are joining in, its a right fucking mess.
That's a good way to cause our century's equivalent of Boston Massacre.

Viewed from a sufficiently distant historical perspective all events in US history have left it stronger. Maybe this event will turn out to be like that.

Everything looks fucked because we're in the middle of it and we lack that sufficiently distant historical perspective.
 
One thing I'll miss about Trump is that he says the quiet part outloud on foreign policy
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This announcement imo is pretty fucked, because it basically turns all of US foreign policy on its head. Recognizing the sovereignty of an occupying power with practically no legal rights to the land at the expense of the local population is just something you don't do in current geopolitics world. Yes, I know this is rich coming from an unironic Zionist who openly believes that Israel should keep its control over the occupied territories, but we're not supposed to openly state that we're playing realpolitik because that's not how international relations work since 1945. This basically justifies the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the Russian occupation of Crimea, etc., and makes us look like unilateralist assholes for the sake of a cheap publicity stunt.
 
More important than nukes, most of the nation's critical highway infrastructure pass through hard red areas. Especially Missouri. Seriously, a round two could be mostly ended in a week just by keeping trucks from easily getting into cities and I have a feeling I know which side most truckers/freight companies would come down on. Your average American city has, I don't know three-four days of food if cut off? Don't worry about nukes, there isn't anyone sane that would pop one off against their fellow Americans because that would turn into a world wide shit storm against whomever popped it off.

Worry about logistics and remember that the blue strongholds are mostly urban areas that require constant freight to feed. Cut that off and within a week that city would be on fire.
Oh it could get worse.

Democrats are known for aqquiring voters by promising hand outs. Such as welfare, social security and the like.

Their depedants are going to have their free meal ticket disrupted if an actual split happens.

Im going guess these depedants live in urban areas. Once the pay checks stop these depedants are going riot. Or hunt down the local politicians and turn them into lamp post decorations.

So democratic stronghold dwellers will be contending with violence within city limits and red staters outside city limits. These places are going be death zones.



Whats worse theyre the ones who pushed for this shit the most.

Viewed from a sufficiently distant historical perspective all events in US history have left it stronger. Maybe this event will turn out to be like that.

Everything looks fucked because we're in the middle of it and we lack that sufficiently distant historical perspective.
Those times happened when America shared a unifying spirit. That spirit no longer exists
 
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This announcement imo is pretty fucked, because it basically turns all of US foreign policy on its head. Recognizing the sovereignty of an occupying power with practically no legal rights to the land at the expense of the local population is just something you don't do in current geopolitics world. Yes, I know this is rich coming from an unironic Zionist who openly believes that Israel should keep its control over the occupied territories, but we're not supposed to openly state that we're playing realpolitik because that's not how international relations work since 1945. This basically justifies the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the Russian occupation of Crimea, etc., and makes us look like unilateralist assholes for the sake of a cheap publicity stunt.
Hasn't Morocco claimed the Western Sahara for decades? It's a bunch of sand where nobody but nomadic Bedouins live, who gives a shit?
 
More important than nukes, most of the nation's critical highway infrastructure pass through hard red areas. Especially Missouri. Seriously, a round two could be mostly ended in a week just by keeping trucks from easily getting into cities and I have a feeling I know which side most truckers/freight companies would come down on. Your average American city has, I don't know three-four days of food if cut off? Don't worry about nukes, there isn't anyone sane that would pop one off against their fellow Americans because that would turn into a world wide shit storm against whomever popped it off.

Worry about logistics and remember that the blue strongholds are mostly urban areas that require constant freight to feed. Cut that off and within a week that city would be on fire.
Not to rain on your fantasies that Red States would win a hypothetical civil war, but do you know who also had overwhelming support in rural areas against a side with support mostly from urban centers? The Whites in the Russian Civil War and Royalists in the English Civil War? I wonder how well holding all of the rural areas worked out for them.
 
This announcement imo is pretty fucked, because it basically turns all of US foreign policy on its head. Recognizing the sovereignty of an occupying power with practically no legal rights to the land at the expense of the local population is just something you don't do in current geopolitics world. Yes, I know this is rich coming from an unironic Zionist who openly believes that Israel should keep its control over the occupied territories, but we're not supposed to openly state that we're playing realpolitik because that's not how international relations work since 1945. This basically justifies the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the Russian occupation of Crimea, etc., and makes us look like unilateralist assholes for the sake of a cheap publicity stunt.
I agree Morocco has been engaging in open war on the Sahrawi people for decades and they abuse them in the parts of the coast they already had.
This will lead to further bloodshed and war.
Not to mention, trading favors to Israel in return for recognizing controversial claims is awful US policy and probably about the most destructive option possible.
 
I agree Morocco has been engaging in open war on the Sahrawi people for decades and they abuse them in the parts of the coast they already had.
This will lead to further bloodshed and war.
Not to mention, trading favors to Israel in return for recognizing controversial claims is awful US policy and probably about the most destructive option possible.
Lol I think you're taking my position further than I actually stated. This isn't trading favors to Israel, because Morocco has for all intents and purposes maintained unofficial diplomatic relations with Israel since the 70's. This is a cheap publicity stunt meant to endear him to Trump's Pro-Israel base and prove his capabilities as a diplomat, while discrediting our country's positions on other occupations that we disagree with policy-wise and generally discrediting us on the international stage.
 
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