2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Soon.

My father told me and my brother: "I weep for the world you guys will inherit".
My father would probably call your father a pussy for weeping. I'd call your father a pussy for weeping. Your father is a pussy. For weeping.

I'm kidding, I never had a father. But if I did he'd call your father a pussy. For weeping.

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I went through and tried to recreate result from this paper (link below). Here's is a thread with my exact method. I believe this chart is statistically impossible and I'm looking for anyone who can tell me how it's not.
 
Are you intentionally dodging the point that there weren't lawsuits filed over the 2016 elections to begin with?
I'm saying that the filing of these lawsuits is frivolous and irrelevant, yes. I would make fun of any suits Clinton had lodged which went no-where, too. Just because some people crowdfunded brave patriot bucks to throw into an incinerator and achieved (thusfar) nothing with it doesn't mean that there has been a substantial challenge to the 2020 election relative to 2016.
 
I'm saying that the filing of these lawsuits is frivolous and irrelevant, yes. I would make fun of any suits Clinton had lodged which went no-where, too. Just because some people crowdfunded brave patriot bucks to throw into an incinerator and achieved (thusfar) nothing with it doesn't mean that there has been a substantial challenge to the 2020 election relative to 2016.
But there was a challenge, compared to 2016, where there wasn't.

Which is the point.
 
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My father would probably call your father a pussy for weeping. I'd call your father a pussy for weeping. Your father is a pussy. For weeping.

I'm kidding, I never had a father. But if I did he'd call your father a pussy. For weeping.

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Uhhh. So he. Took a list of absent voter counting board numbers (which estimate, I guess, the number of people that didn't vote? But aren't required to?)... what is the assertion here? I'm trying to figure out what this is even saying. He took a spread of biden and trump votes in some district, then divided them by the total number of people who didn't vote that were recorded? I genuinely cannot parse out what this is trying to say.
Okay okay, worded oddly. He took the absentee ballots... and then I don't know what he did. He divided the... absentee ballot per candidate by the candidate's total? So the assertion is that they have similar amounts of % of votes in those particular areas that are absentee?

Okay, okay, figured it out. The assertion is that these counties having somewhat similar deltas of voting rates from point to point is problematic. IE, counties where more of biden's vote was absentee voted also show more of trump's vote being absentee. That's literally it.
But there was a challenge, compared to 2016, where there wasn't.

Which is the point.
A frivolous and pointless challenge which makes Trump look like a sore loser? Yeah, I guess Clinton didn't do that in 2016.

In terms of the electors' selection, nothing is different - exception maybe GA. If GA suit or the SCOTUS goes through, then you've got a relevant change.
 
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Still maintain this entire deliberately and maliciously mismanaged ChiCom Flu thing will eventually be seen as another national Vietnam-level fuckup. We haven't even seen all the damage to our society yet, specifically the utter loss of credibility in government/the judiciary/law enforcement and the unwarranted damage to the education of millions of students. Lot of shit left to play out.
Honestly this is my most immediate concern about a Biden/Harris administration: federal actions relating to containing the virus. They've signaled their intention to "listen to the experts" much more than that mean ol' Blumph did, but what that can only mean is even more widespread restrictions on personal autonomy and commerce. That is, after all, what these experts are continuously recommending isn't it?

A great many Democrat voters seem happy about this, and all I can think is "are you people fucking insane?" I suppose the fear of the coof and the desire to be seen as a rule-following good boy/girl is very intense amongst that segment of America, but holy fucking shit is there going to be a severe price to pay for all of this mania. I personally know people who have had their life's work destroyed without any possibility of rebuilding because of state and local emergency orders. Businesses that were in these families for multiple generations are wiped out because of what some fucking pencilneck bureaucrats decided behind closed doors. And for what? Did we win yet? Did any of these measures do a fucking thing? It's just absolutely galling to see people cheer on these hugely destructive restrictions without even a second thought given to the devastation they've wrought on their own communities. That shit took years and years to build and it isn't coming back.

I've been sperging out about this alot in the Coronavirus thread, but these are dire times for classic concepts of liberty. What exactly are the metrics we're using for success against COVID? Can anyone say? This is mission creep on a national scale and Biden looks set to dial it up even further. I suppose the complete destruction of life as we know it will have been worth it once little girls can see a brown woman in the Vice President's office though. I know I'll have difficulty holding back tears of patriotic pride at that thought as I stand in line to get my daily ration of bugloaf.
 
This is just preposterous. They are not even hiding it anymore.
>Yes we cheated so now skip all the legal proceedings that certify the results of the elections and inaugurate him tomorrow.
My state is such a fucking embarrassment. If our destiny is to forever carry the yolk of getting legally stomped by the Lone Star, I'll wear it proudly.
 
Yes. Trump is running an exit scam to collect money from his gullible supporters.

Which is the point
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A frivolous and pointless challenge which makes Trump look like a sore loser? Yeah, I guess Clinton didn't do that in 2016.

I'm talking to people who are addicted to cheap gotchas at the expense of being relevant.
 
I'm talking to people who are addicted to cheap gotchas at the expense of being relevant.

So, which state has decided to do anything differently yet as regards the certification of its electors this year? Functionally, how have those legal challenges changed things up?

You took a snippet of a broader conversation, and even with just that, you faceplanted by calling these lawsuits laughed out of court relevant.
 
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Honestly this is my most immediate concern about a Biden/Harris administration: federal actions relating to containing the virus. They've signaled their intention to "listen to the experts" much more than that mean ol' Blumph did, but what that can only mean is even more widespread restrictions on personal autonomy and commerce. That is, after all, what these experts are continuously recommending isn't it?

A great many Democrat voters seem happy about this, and all I can think is "are you people fucking insane?" I suppose the fear of the coof and the desire to be seen as a rule-following good boy/girl is very intense amongst that segment of America, but holy fucking shit is there going to be a severe price to pay for all of this mania. I personally know people who have had their life's work destroyed without any possibility of rebuilding because of state and local emergency orders. Businesses that were in these families for multiple generations are wiped out because of what some fucking pencilneck bureaucrats decided behind closed doors. And for what? Did we win yet? Did any of these measures do a fucking thing? It's just absolutely galling to see people cheer on these hugely destructive restrictions without even a second thought given to the devastation they've wrought on their own communities. That shit took years and years to build and it isn't coming back.

I've been sperging out about this alot in the Coronavirus thread, but these are dire times for classic concepts of liberty. What exactly are the metrics we're using for success against COVID? Can anyone say? This is mission creep on a national scale and Biden looks set to dial it up even further. I suppose the complete destruction of life as we know it will have been worth it once little girls can see a brown woman in the Vice President's office though. I know I'll have difficulty holding back tears of patriotic pride at that thought as I stand in line to get my daily ration of bugloaf.
That's not even getting into what the younger generation will end up as. The school system is screwed anyway, but I hear from parents all the time that the teachers aren't even trying to do work half the time and/or the kids are refusing to do the work. Not to mention how many kids will end up socially autistic from staying inside for weeks on end. Imagine how many kids will be pushed through this year who failed just so they don't have to hold entire classes back.
 
Yep it's there. Are they trying to get rid of Joe early or do they feel the ship is sinking?
If anything, we're going to see all these investigations crushed and purged on 1/20 or 1/21, and any talk about it silenced and any places hosting it shut down. Like this place.
I think the SCOTUS will kick the decision back to the state legislatures of PA, GA, MI, WI. Not least because the alternative is so much worse.

That Texas filing is great reading

https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...095715842_TX-v-State-MPI-Reply-2020-12-11.pdf


I will literally buy any Texans I meet a drink, provided they are hot and female, as a result of this filing.

I'll say one thing about this shitshow. In a time where a lot of us are a bit underemployed due to COVID it's certainly produced some thrilling reading. Which is not something I'd normally describe court documents as.

Also, look at this


LOL. Suck it Josh Shapiro, you seditious prick.

And here's the kicker. Since the election process was unconstitutional and the winner in doubt the only solution is to kick it back to the state legislatures who have plenary authority under the constitution.


Incidentally, the doctrine that the state legislature has plenary authority to choose electors is one of the things that the SCOTUS ruled in Bush vs Gore. Thomas ruled with the majority and all of Trump's appointees worked on Bush's case.

Like I say, I'm pretty confident in which way this will go.
Send this back to the doctrine? Have you not watched the thread? Going to the legislature is probably the worst thing that could happen to Trump? Those fuckers will stab Trump in the back so hard that it'll go through his entire body. The only person Trump can trust is Trump, and those legislatures will sell Trump out to install Biden if it means keeping the Trust and Reconciliation Commission from visiting them and the Trump Accountability Project from listing them, even if only for a few months.
There are still people that do not understand what the lawsuit means while going on about it like 40 year Constitutional lawyers:

From Barnes quick rundown:

Texas sued these 4 states, but not NV and AZ because they decided to change election laws through the court system and not through the legislature, which is outlined directly in the Constitution that it can only be done via legislature. They cannot sue NV because they passed the extended dates of VBM via legislature. I do not know the specifics of AZ.

Texas sued because by violating the Constitution, it instills a president that wasn't installed evenally through Constitutional methods.

The Constitution is essentially a contract between states on how they conduct business. Binding contracts when broken, in the case as something as small as Vic getting booted off the anime scene, to as large as this, require remedies if agreed if the contract has been violated. The outlined remedy in the Constitution and in the lawsuit is election by state delegation.

Fraud is secondary to this. It's a pure Constitutional question. That's why some are nervous about this: it requires NO proof of fraud to be ruled and there are 5 Constitutionalists on the SC.
I'd like there to be more than 5 of these Constitutionalists because then I wouldn't have to worry about every case being a literal coin flip.
This guy puts way too much stock into getting unfriended on Facebook. I'm surprised he hasn't realized his posts are ending up here.
I think it means we're not heading into a grim uniparty dystopia but rather we're going to have two years of Biden, midterms and then two more years of Biden. It's unlikely the PAGAMIWI state legislatures will allow things to go as badly wrong in future elections.
You forget the part where the Democrats and their sympathizers can crush any and all investigations into things like this election and Hunter and Fang with as little as an executive order along with working to purge and make examples out if Trump and his supporters and his movement along with fixing the machinations of what they did to get Biden in office, along with the pursuit of pet projects to keep their hold of power. The only question politicians will have is how fast can they bring about the progressive utopia.
ANy Time? Does this mean that we're going to see them wait until 1/21 or so when it's too late to help Donald Trump stay in office?
I don't know why California is Democrat HQ, when Pennsylvania here wants to call all of the shots.
Because California has the money and celebrities and prestige. And the high status. What does Philly have? A sandwich and the some of the meanest football fans you'll meet in your life.
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That's not even getting into what the younger generation will end up as. The school system is screwed anyway, but I hear from parents all the time that the teachers aren't even trying to do work half the time and/or the kids are refusing to do the work. Not to mention how many kids will end up socially autistic from staying inside for weeks on end.
And yet the political party advocating for more of this societal poison style themselves as the side that wants to help people. The idea that we're the same country that put men on the moon just 51 years ago is fucking mind-blowing to me.
 
Uhhh. So he. Took a list of absent voter counting board numbers (which estimate, I guess, the number of people that didn't vote? But aren't required to?)... what is the assertion here? I'm trying to figure out what this is even saying. He took a spread of biden and trump votes in some district, then divided them by the total number of people who didn't vote that were recorded? I genuinely cannot parse out what this is trying to say.

A frivolous and pointless challenge which makes Trump look like a sore loser? Yeah, I guess Clinton didn't do that in 2016.

In terms of the electors' selection, nothing is different - exception maybe GA. If GA suit or the SCOTUS goes through, then you've got a relevant change.
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Dorky enough to use penumbral emanations, but not dorky enough to use the term tribrachial instead of 'three branches'. Amateur hour.


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U.S. electors will cast their votes on December 14 - the same day of comet C/2020 pass by, the Geminids meteor shower, the 'great conjunction' of Jupiter and Saturn, and a total eclipse of the sun in South America.
I'm pressing all of my penumbral emanations towards big Monday happenings. It cannot fizzle out now, the show must go on (or else what ever will we do?). Let us all join hands and pray for big shit.
 
If anything, we're going to see all these investigations crushed and purged on 1/20 or 1/21, and any talk about it silenced and any places hosting it shut down. Like this place.

Send this back to the doctrine? Have you not watched the thread? Going to the legislature is probably the worst thing that could happen to Trump? Those fuckers will stab Trump in the back so hard that it'll go through his entire body. The only person Trump can trust is Trump, and those legislatures will sell Trump out to install Biden if it means keeping the Trust and Reconciliation Commission from visiting them and the Trump Accountability Project from listing them, even if only for a few months.

I'd like there to be more than 5 of these Constitutionalists because then I wouldn't have to worry about every case being a literal coin flip.

This guy puts way too much stock into getting unfriended on Facebook. I'm surprised he hasn't realized his posts are ending up here.

You forget the part where the Democrats and their sympathizers can crush any and all investigations into things like this election and Hunter and Fang with as little as an executive order along with working to purge and make examples out if Trump and his supporters and his movement along with fixing the machinations of what they did to get Biden in office, along with the pursuit of pet projects to keep their hold of power. The only question politicians will have is how fast can they bring about the progressive utopia.

ANy Time? Does this mean that we're going to see them wait until 1/21 or so when it's too late to help Donald Trump stay in office?

Because California has the money and celebrities and prestige. And the high status. What does Philly have? A sandwich and the some of the meanest football fans you'll meet in your life.

It's because Facebook people want to be noticed by us poor concern trolls so we can laugh at their bullshit. I would not even care had it only stayed on his Twitter. But no. His Facebook has all the bullshit where he complains about Trump 27/7 comparing him to Hitler and shit. I can make a thread about him but even I'm too nice to care for him so feel free to make a post about him and save all his rage bait Facebook posts in case they get deleted because of "trolls" and "shit".
 
So, which state has decided to do anything differently yet as regards the certification of its electors this year?
That's not the point. You're either dim or deceitful, but let's be extremely unambiguous:

The fact that nobody tried to contest their state's elections in 2016 is the conclusive evidence of consensus regarding the results. What is relevant is whether lawsuits were filed-- lawsuits that are dismissed or otherwise lost are still lawsuits that were filed and given time for hearings.

You have those in 2020.

You did not have those in 2016.

The fact that those lawsuits were dismissed or lost, and on whatever merits they were dismissed or lost, is irrelevant to my point. This is because the material evidence is that there were several challenges to the results of this election, precluding the idea of consensus, especially in comparison to 2016, where there weren't any such challenges. In fact, there wasn't even a discussion of potentially making such challenges, because the observable consensus was that Trump legitimately won the election (rather, the discussion was whether he legitimately won by illegitimate means, i.e. colluding with the Russians). Nobody took to court the idea that such was not the case.

That is your consensus. Stop trying to derail this conversation into a borderline unintelligible mess in your chasing of irrelevant details.
 
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