Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Jesus Goldstein]

I don’t even know WTF a .224 Valkyrie is. Shit, there are so many chamberings for the AR, I guess just for situations like this - if you can’t find any .223, stick your .300 Blackout or .50 Beowulf upper on and keep shooting.

 

[White Devil]

I don’t even know WTF a .224 Valkyrie is. Shit, there are so many chamberings for the AR, I guess just for situations like this - if you can’t find any .223, stick your .300 Blackout or .50 Beowulf upper on and keep shooting.

.224 Valkyrie was supposed to be the next big thing for long range shooting in a .22 cal case, it was made by Federal who overhyped the fuck out of it and it failed spectacularly.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

...there are so many chamberings for the AR, I guess just for situations like this - if you can’t find any .223, stick your .300 Blackout or .50 Beowulf upper on and keep shooting.

I am immediately reminded of a Fuddly Friend of mine, who keeps T/C contender barrels in almost every imaginable chamber.

In his version of the apocalypse, every cartridge/bullet is a highly desired object.

 

[Particle Bored]

I don’t even know WTF a .224 Valkyrie is. Shit, there are so many chamberings for the AR, I guess just for situations like this - if you can’t find any .223, stick your .300 Blackout or .50 Beowulf upper on and keep shooting.

Speaking of Beowulf...

 

[Club Sandwich]

Crom laughs at anyone who buys .224 Valkyrie, laughs from high on his mountain.

I don’t even know WTF a .224 Valkyrie is. Shit, there are so many chamberings for the AR, I guess just for situations like this - if you can’t find any .223, stick your .300 Blackout or .50 Beowulf upper on and keep shooting.

.224 Valkyrie was supposed to be the next big thing for long range shooting in a .22 cal case, it was made by Federal who overhyped the fuck out of it and it failed spectacularly.

.224 Valkyrie is a half step between the .223 Remington and the .22 Nosler - it's meant to be a small bore magnum chambering similar in scope to the 6.8 SPC but not needing a new barrel (functionally the .224 is based on the 6.8 SPC case, necked down to a .224 bullet). unfortunately medium game doesn't care if the bullet is .22 or .30, and .308 is very cheap and available.

about the only advantages .224 Valkyrie has is the relative parts commonality for the 5.56x45mm NATO AR-15. the benefit is bullet mass (140-160gr) and the velocity (3300+ fps) without needing many, if any, changes from the typical AR-15 (magazine and bolt), making that single rifle serve multiple roles a bit better.

in that aspect, it's a little better than .300 AAC Blackout or 6.5 Creedmoor, or something like that (new bolt, new barrel, maybe new magazine), but ultimately a necked down 6.8 SPC is very niche, even more so than 6.8 SPC itself since that had an actual SOCOM functional specification they were trying to meet.

if you want 1300 yard flat shooting low felt recoil and you want to have a "do everything" AR-15 then it has some potential. for people that have or want more than one rifle, they might better off skipping 6.8 SPC, .300 AAC, or .224 Valkyrie entirely and just buying a nice 7mm-08 or .243 Winchester for an AR-10 pattern rifle, or a nice Steyr or Tikka or something.

 

[Blasterisk]

So I'm at this gun show a bit ago, and a vendor had this strange AR. No pics but maybe I can describe it well enough that you all are as baffled as I.

• thumbrest pistol grip, with the long blade so lefties get BTFO
• standard profile non-match barrel
• basic stock w/o cheek rest
• 80's style carry handle with top rail
• small reddot mounted on handguard, co-witnessed to irons

This vendor advised me that he considered this rifle in 'stock' configuration, and that he would personally mount a scope on the carry rail, with, of course, a holographic sight on top of it.

I left him and his 8 inch bore offset before my brain broke and I accidentally bought anything.

 

[White Devil]

Sounds like you're describing a more fucktarded than usual CA compliant AR.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Sounds like you're describing a more fucktarded than usual CA compliant AR.

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That is why i prefer the fixed magazine ARs. They don't look retarded.

Or get a bolt action AR I guess.

 

[Jesus Goldstein]

I guess it depends on how much he was asking. Stocks, handles, and sights can always be replaced. If it was a 1:12 twist barrel that would probably be a ding on the desirability too. In this market though, I’m sure his price was too high, especially if it was at a gun show; and unless you already have some 5.56 it’ll just sit in the safe anyway.

 

[White Devil]

That is why i prefer the fixed magazine ARs. They don't look retarded.

Or get a bolt action AR I guess.

Or just don't comply.

 

[Club Sandwich]

So I'm at this gun show a bit ago, and a vendor had this strange AR. No pics but maybe I can describe it well enough that you all are as baffled as I.

• thumbrest pistol grip, with the long blade so lefties get BTFO
• standard profile non-match barrel
• basic stock w/o cheek rest
• 80's style carry handle with top rail
• small reddot mounted on handguard, co-witnessed to irons

This vendor advised me that he considered this rifle in 'stock' configuration, and that he would personally mount a scope on the carry rail, with, of course, a holographic sight on top of it.

I left him and his 8 inch bore offset before my brain broke and I accidentally bought anything.

high height-over-bore is desirable in some circumstances, and was the norm prior to the mid-90's. wild bore hunting from a vehicle, for example, or if you need a lot of vertical travel for something like .450 Bushmaster past 200 meters. thumbrest pistol grips were very popular (alongside "revolver" bird's head style grips) for a hot minute as well in the late 80's.

Sounds like you're describing a more fucktarded than usual CA compliant AR.

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not really - he doesn't mention any compliance parts. a thumbrest grip literally has a nub or extrusion to rest your thumb. it's still a normal pistol grip otherwise. unless he means a "non pistol grip", which is usually designed to prevent the thumb from wrapping around the rear of the grip, or is very oddly shaped to purposely keep the hand at or just below the action.

That is why i prefer the fixed magazine ARs. They don't look retarded.

Or get a bolt action AR I guess.

Ares SCR looks fairly nice.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Ares SCR looks fairly nice.

Looks like a tactical Mini-14.

Or just don't comply.

How does one not comply in a pozzed shithole like California?

 

[White Devil]

How does one not comply in a pozzed shithole like California?

It's as easy as not registering your shit so CA DoJ can't decide to randomly raid you when they feel the whim. Buy parts from individuals who won't care about shipping to CA vs vendors who do. Magazines are easy to unpin, etc.

It's not exactly rocket science. If you mean actually shooting, I assume CA has BLM land.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Looks like a tactical Mini-14.

i suppose in some ways. it looks very different from a Mini-14 in most ways to me other than at a distance. other than the abbreviated carrier, special lower receiver and lower parts kit, and modified recoil system, the upper can be any standard AR-15 compatible upper, and the stock can be modified from a Remington 870 or Stevens 320 stock.

 

[Blasterisk]

I guess it depends on how much he was asking. Stocks, handles, and sights can always be replaced. If it was a 1:12 twist barrel that would probably be a ding on the desirability too. In this market though, I’m sure his price was too high, especially if it was at a gun show; and unless you already have some 5.56 it’ll just sit in the safe anyway.

It was at least $800, but I can't remember exactly what. For so many parts needing replacing it'd be a hard sell at 4 imo

high height-over-bore is desirable in some circumstances, and was the norm prior to the mid-90's. wild bore hunting from a vehicle, for example, or if you need a lot of vertical travel for something like .450 Bushmaster past 200 meters. thumbrest pistol grips were very popular (alongside "revolver" bird's head style grips) for a hot minute as well in the late 80's.

not really - he doesn't mention any compliance parts. a thumbrest grip literally has a nub or extrusion to rest your thumb. it's still a normal pistol grip otherwise. unless he means a "non pistol grip", which is usually designed to prevent the thumb from wrapping around the rear of the grip, or is very oddly shaped to purposely keep the hand at or just below the action.

Not a whole lot of boar hunting in this area, and it was 5.56/.223. Also not CA.

The blade on the grip was far more extensive than what you posted, designed to support the entire web of your thumb down to the wrist.

 

[Club Sandwich]

The blade on the grip was far more extensive than what you posted, designed to support the entire web of your thumb down to the wrist.

sounds like a Hogue competition grip - these were OEM for a few companies through the 90's and even up into the 2000's. you find them on small bore bullseye rifles mostly, and they've fallen out of favor. Sierra Precision makes a version too, and there's the popular "clone" of the H&K PSG-1 grip with the added palm support.

 

[Particle Bored]

It's as easy as not registering your shit so CA DoJ can't decide to randomly raid you when they feel the whim. Buy parts from individuals who won't care about shipping to CA vs vendors who do. Magazines are easy to unpin, etc.

It's not exactly rocket science. If you mean actually shooting, I assume CA has BLM land.

No vendor will ship a lower directly to a CA buyer. They all have to send through an FFL, who runs the BG check and registers the sale. You could build it to a standard configuration, but it's a felony if you get caught.

Ares SCR is cool but you're stuck with using their BCG. I like the Thordsen gen3 stock (it is a bit heavy though, and pricey):

 

[nekrataal]

.224 Valkyrie was supposed to be the next big thing for long range shooting in a .22 cal case, it was made by Federal who overhyped the fuck out of it and it failed spectacularly.

As much as I love federal’s American eagle FMJs is as much as I hate how much they shilled that damn caliber.

 

[White Devil]

No vendor will ship a lower directly to a CA buyer. They all have to send through an FFL, who runs the BG check and registers the sale. You could build it to a standard configuration, but it's a felony if you get caught.

I never said anything about lowers, vendors won't ship a lower directly to anyone unless they have an FFL. You can't even get an older one with a C&R as far as I know.

That being said, what isn't a felony in CA at this point? If I lived in that shithole I would have just built an SBR out of a 80% and hid it.

 

[Jesus Goldstein]

It was at least $800, but I can't remember exactly what. For so many parts needing replacing it'd be a hard sell at 4 imo

That actually sounds like a typical gun show price in this panic. Doesn’t mean it’s worth it, but it seems like everyone’s taking advantage, trying to get a little more for their guns right now. I think I remember hearing new S&W M&P-15’s were going for damn near $1000 a few months ago.
Maybe if it had Noveske or some other premium parts in it, but I’m sure it was probably just a plain Palmetto State or Bushmaster-tier AR.