A Vexed Lens
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Before I share with you what I share with you, I should disclose that I am a longtime Pyrocynical fan. If I were on a jury deciding his fate, I would absolutely have to recuse myself, as my emotional connection to the situation is just too strong for me to have a truly unbiased opinion on the matter.
That being said, there is some information that I think a lot of people covering the situation seem to have missed. Recently, a small YouTuber/streamer by the name of Crows of Judgement, has made several streams and videos defending Pyrocynical, particularly against the allegations made against him by the likes of Turkey Tom and Tommy C. It's worth mentioning that Crow maintains that he is not a Pyrocynical fan, he has never seen a single one of Pyrocynical's videos, and he does think that Pyro is "creepy" and "a freak," with which, after seeing his now public messages with Ivory, I am inclined to agree.
The other night, during one of those streams, I made contact with an individual claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude on Twitter, one of the first people to come out in defense of Pyro after the allegations first dropped, and being one of the people whose claims that Ivory had lied about his age Pyro cited in his initial response. This person did not prove his identity as @HTMLRandomDude, but if we could contact him on Twitter and get him to either verify or deny that the YouTube account in question belongs to him, that would be very helpful. Unfortunately, I am not on Twitter, so I would need someone else to do that for me.
During the stream, this person, claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude, claimed that Turkey Tom had taken his words out of context in his video on the situation, and that he never actually retracted his claims that Ivory lied about his age, as Tom had claimed.
As for Crow himself, the streamer, he made what I thought were some very good points against Tom and Tommy that the whole community could benefit from seeing. I don't want to spend too much of this post going over them, so here is a link to the stream in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEhvd1gkek
I have attached screenshots of the messages between myself and the person claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude. With timestamps next to all the messages, as well as the link to the livestream itself, you can easily verify the authenticity of these messages.
Again, I cannot claim with certainty that this person is @HTMLRandomDude, but if it is, I think the implications of what he is saying are vast: If Tom would go so far as to take Random Dude's messages out of context and use them to imply that he had made a claim he had never actually made, what other falsehoods could there be in his videos and document? I don't think the community should be so quick to take his word as gospel, which it seems like they've been doing as of late.
Anyway, this may all seem like the mental gymnastics of a desperate Pyro fanboy grasping at straws, and while I can't exactly deny the Pyro fanboy accusation, I'd be very interested to see what those who have made videos on the situation have to say about this new information.
That being said, there is some information that I think a lot of people covering the situation seem to have missed. Recently, a small YouTuber/streamer by the name of Crows of Judgement, has made several streams and videos defending Pyrocynical, particularly against the allegations made against him by the likes of Turkey Tom and Tommy C. It's worth mentioning that Crow maintains that he is not a Pyrocynical fan, he has never seen a single one of Pyrocynical's videos, and he does think that Pyro is "creepy" and "a freak," with which, after seeing his now public messages with Ivory, I am inclined to agree.
The other night, during one of those streams, I made contact with an individual claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude on Twitter, one of the first people to come out in defense of Pyro after the allegations first dropped, and being one of the people whose claims that Ivory had lied about his age Pyro cited in his initial response. This person did not prove his identity as @HTMLRandomDude, but if we could contact him on Twitter and get him to either verify or deny that the YouTube account in question belongs to him, that would be very helpful. Unfortunately, I am not on Twitter, so I would need someone else to do that for me.
During the stream, this person, claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude, claimed that Turkey Tom had taken his words out of context in his video on the situation, and that he never actually retracted his claims that Ivory lied about his age, as Tom had claimed.
As for Crow himself, the streamer, he made what I thought were some very good points against Tom and Tommy that the whole community could benefit from seeing. I don't want to spend too much of this post going over them, so here is a link to the stream in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEhvd1gkek
I have attached screenshots of the messages between myself and the person claiming to be @HTMLRandomDude. With timestamps next to all the messages, as well as the link to the livestream itself, you can easily verify the authenticity of these messages.
Again, I cannot claim with certainty that this person is @HTMLRandomDude, but if it is, I think the implications of what he is saying are vast: If Tom would go so far as to take Random Dude's messages out of context and use them to imply that he had made a claim he had never actually made, what other falsehoods could there be in his videos and document? I don't think the community should be so quick to take his word as gospel, which it seems like they've been doing as of late.
Anyway, this may all seem like the mental gymnastics of a desperate Pyro fanboy grasping at straws, and while I can't exactly deny the Pyro fanboy accusation, I'd be very interested to see what those who have made videos on the situation have to say about this new information.
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