Ivory being a clout chasing sped doesn't make pyro less of a weirdo, I think that while his intentions clearly aren't great it doesn't negate the fact that pyro wanted to fly out a 16-year-old.
Yeah, for sure. It doesn't take away from the fact that Pyro was talking to a 15/16 year-old & wanted to inflate him into a balloon of fat by farting into his mouth. Pyro is still a weirdo, and Ivory is a retard.
https://twitter.com/keiko43969061/status/1338609360407236608 Someone made a google doc against ivory. It's not too long so consider reading this. Dude also was blocked by ivory after asking him why he asked pyro for porn and was scrolling so fast on his video showing the dms.
It'd be excellent if evidence of pyro starting the porn sharing thing through DMs was made available. Aside from that I don't think its super weird for Ivory to have had sex assuming he was around 16 as I can't see a date stamp in the image.
Which is why I think Turk Tommy's and co days might be numbered. It's one thing to look at this as just an observer. It's another to be a moral crusader about it, no matter how bad the person you're attacking is. Because eventually you gain rivals and enemies and it's only a matter of time before your dirty laundry get's aired out and/or you fall off the high horse.
Tom already got involved in some petty drama over a year ago between him and DAngelo Wallace, who tried to argue that he was pro-antisemitic and racist. Bunch of people also tried to pin the blame on him for Hyojin attempting suicide when he called her out two separate videos. It’s not like the guy doesn’t already have plenty of enemies who despise him. All this shit involving Pyro pails in comparison to the prior examples.
I think Pyro still has connections to the commentary community but hasn't really openly interacted with them much after the zaptie shit happened. I think the final videos where he interacted with his commentary circle openly was when he was on hiatus and had his friends run the channel for a while. I could be wrong and maybe forgotten some overwatch video he did with said circle after the zaptie shit but as far as a quick skim through videos goes he never really mentioned them except in fan animations he'd upload.
Pyro is somewhat self aware, mainly because he tried to hide his degeneracy where as the average fur fag would try to wear it as a badge of honor and he was quite aware of how formulaic youtube apologies go (Start with a sigh, bring in cute animal, over justify the actions you were called out for, etc.) which is why I think he admitted the logs were real (If he'd lied and denied they were real he would've been fucked over more I think). I think he will take the Channel Awesome approach as in not respond anymore and wait for everything to blow over to continue uploading videos as if nothing happened, but you never know.
Speaking of Hyojin, her ex-bf Pyro was initially included (I believe by ImAllexx) as being one of the main members involved in cancelling Slazo. The claim was completely unfounded and quickly debunked. In hindsight, I guess it makes sense as for why the guy’s far less open about which YouTuber friends he regularly interacts with.
Sort of related to this but I've heard rumor's that Zaptie may be returning or something like that and I can sort of see Zaptie taking pyros place in the commentary community if Pyro continues to ignore this situation the way he is. Not intentionally of course but a lot of people from what I can want to see him return and I think the pyro fanbase with how they currently don't know what to do other than shit post on pyro's reddit would be happy to switch over to somebody else.
https://twitter.com/keiko43969061/status/1338609360407236608 Someone made a google doc against ivory. It's not too long so consider reading this. Dude also was blocked by ivory after asking him why he asked pyro for porn and was scrolling so fast on his video showing the dms.
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People can have sex while underage. An Anglo like Pyro should be painfully aware of this considering how many 13 year old fathers his country has. And Pyro never said Ivory lied to him about his age.
These particular DMs happened on July 4 2017. This puts it after Ivory told Pyro he would need a fake ID to drink in England because he wasn't 18 (May 6 2017) but just before Ivory linked his Twitter bio where he listed his age as 16 (July 5 2017). If we are to base Pyro's knowledge of Ivory's age purely off their DMs and ignore the possibility age was discussed over voice call, on a mutual Discord server, on Skype, or on Twitter, then all Pyro knows about Ivory's age at this point is he is under 18.
If Keiko here had bothered to look literally two messages further into the conversation he would see Ivory say he hasn't had sex in nearly a year. Ivory was 16 when he said this meaning he was at most 15 when he had sex with the girl. So long as she was between 13 and 19 neither party committed statutory rape. If it happened when Ivory was 14 then the age limit changes to between 13 and 18. 13 to 17 if Ivory was 13. No matter how old Ivory was when it happened he was a minor.
And describing the girl as fat somehow means Ivory was lying about his age? 1 in 5 Americans between 12 and 18 are obese. It is (tragically) not out of line for an American teenage girl to be 200 lbs. I wish I could say I'm baffled by this logic but these are Redditors we're dealing with.
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These particular DMs took place on October 22 2017. The last message of Pyro's we have is from April 7 2017. After that everything of his was wiped. It's possible Pyro said he did want to be sent fetish art before Ivory sent that picture but we can't see it because it was deleted.
It's also possible Ivory did just post it without getting consent. It was something they would both did. Pyro also liked to drop fetish stuff on Ivory without asking.
Pyro sending fetish art unprompted when Ivory was trying to schedule a time to play video games.
Pyro sending fetish art unprompted when Ivory was talking about X-Men.
Pyro sending fetish art unprompted after they played Dark Souls together.
Pyro sending fetish art unprompted while Ivory was talking about clothing.
Pyro sending fetish art unprompted during a conversation about designing a Halo background.
If Ivory didn't want people seeing certain messages than he wouldn't have released a video of the full DMs. He would have stuck to selective screencaps like he used the first time around. Scrolling quickly like that helps prove authenticity as the blurring and screen tearing is extremely difficult to fabricate on top of needing to perfectly coordinate his finger swiping if it was a pre-recorded video. Yes he needs to release an easy to read version of these DMs but in the mean time HitFilm is free if you wanna put in the effort of reading them.
Speaking of Hyojin, her ex-bf Pyro was initially included (I believe by ImAllexx) as being one of the main members involved in cancelling Slazo. The claim was completely unfounded and quickly debunked. In hindsight, I guess it makes sense as for why the guy’s far less open about which YouTuber friends he regularly interacts with.
On the one hand I'm glad they're not speaking up about this because the moment Hyojin or Alexx touches this case is the moment everyone goes back to assuming it's entirely bullshit. And the less of Alexx's lisp I have to put up with the better. On the other hand it says a lot that the same people who were so eager to draw and quarter Slazo over false allegations are dead silent when one of their own is on the chopping block.
"One of their own"
Nah, Pyro has hated imallex long before the slazo thing and the under-the-bus throw he did with hyojin proved to everyone in that circle that hes a snake
TBH, i dont know why imallex is silent but hyojin and inabber have soemwhat turned on pyro (liking tweets critical of pyro)
Words cannot express my disappointment. God fucking dammit dude.
The only thing that would make this worse is if up to this year he kept doing this shit. I can kind of see people going a little lighter on him if he eventually realized he was in the wrong and just quietly stopped. But that still doesn't change what was already done.
The thing that's really upsetting the most right now is that it's been taking so long for him to say anything.
"I'm sorry, I was being disgusting, there's no excuse for it."
How fucking hard is it to put out a video like that? That shouldn't take a fucking week.
Sort of related to this but I've heard rumor's that Zaptie may be returning or something like that and I can sort of see Zaptie taking pyros place in the commentary community if Pyro continues to ignore this situation the way he is. Not intentionally of course but a lot of people from what I can want to see him return and I think the pyro fanbase with how they currently don't know what to do other than shit post on pyro's reddit would be happy to switch over to somebody else.
Those creatures gutted Zaptie and left him to be devoured by what ever scavengers wanted a feast. I doubt he'd truly come back, he might just post the occasional video when he's bored, but I doubt he'd ever return to the commentary community. I feel leading this sinking ship of a community is far from Zaptie's mind considering ImAllexx is still around.
Bunch of people also tried to pin the blame on him for Hyojin attempting suicide when he called her out two separate videos. It’s not like the guy doesn’t already have plenty of enemies who despise him. All this shit involving Pyro pails in comparison to the prior examples.
Speaking of Hyojin, her ex-bf Pyro was initially included (I believe by ImAllexx) as being one of the main members involved in cancelling Slazo. The claim was completely unfounded and quickly debunked. In hindsight, I guess it makes sense as for why the guy’s far less open about which YouTuber friends he regularly interacts with.
I remember there was a Overwatch video from Pyro with Hyojin in it and she was pretty annoying, a lot people commented how annoying she was which led to Pyro making a video claiming disgust at the insults hurled her way and alleged harassment sent to her. I remember how out of character this response video kind of felt but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised since she was his girlfriend at the time... I think? Still I wouldn't be surprised if this was Hyojin's attempt at garnering clout because of her manipulation in the shit involving Slazo. In fact, I think the harassment and shit from Pyro's overwatch video was fabricated personally but I have no evidence for that so take that as you will.
I don't know if they'll openly tweet about the shit against Pyro but I wouldn't be surprised. Anything involving Hyojin, Allexx, or anyone involved with the Slazo shit shouldn't be taken seriously at all. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they jumped in on Pyro and added false allegations to fuck Pyro over more but that's just speculation... Maybe Hyojin will just jump in shitting on Pyro though to try and have everyone forget she drew porn of a minor. Noticing a trend with Pyro, his friends and minor here...
Those creatures gutted Zaptie and left him to be devoured by what ever scavengers wanted a feast. I doubt he'd truly come back, he might just post the occasional video when he's bored, but I doubt he'd ever return to the commentary community. I feel leading this sinking ship of a community is far from Zaptie's mind considering ImAllexx is still around.
I don't know if they'll openly tweet about the shit against Pyro but I wouldn't be surprised. Anything involving Hyojin, Allexx, or anyone involved with the Slazo shit shouldn't be taken seriously at all. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they jumped in on Pyro and added false allegations to fuck Pyro over more but that's just speculation... Maybe Hyojin will just jump in shitting on Pyro though to try and have everyone forget she drew porn of a minor. Noticing a trend with Pyro, his friends and minor here...
I wouldn't be too surprised if Hyojin will jump in against Pyro. A theory of mine: I don't think that both her and Pyro are even mutual friends anymore, since I don't see any shout-outs or collabs with the two together, even with other people besides the two, as of late. Pretty sure something happened between them that I don't think it's related to the allegations that is happening right now, but I could be wrong. I get the feeling that Pyro made the decision about breaking up with Hyojin, and she didn't took it well.
There was a section in AugieRFC's podcast (no longer there in his channel) where he and Bowblax reacted to Hyojin's Twitch stream apology; Augie brought in the user, HiibanaBae, and she gives some hot takes about Hyojin and along the lines where she hinted Pyro (not by name) with the quote, "She (Hyojin) has more emotion when she ranted about her ex-boyfriend in her livestreams." (<-paraphrasing). I've read through the posts about Hyojin in the lolcow.farm thread, and there's are posts that talked about Hyojin and Ida used to be friends and collaborated with each other once:
I hightly doubt that Hyojin and Pyro are friends, when she's secretly liking a tweet that is against Pyro. Also, Twitter has a attention span of a fly when it comes to Hyojin's past. It's more brought up of her saying, "n**ger" than other dramas she's in. But don't worry about her! She got her friends babying her actions, mostly her boyfriend.
The thing that's really upsetting the most right now is that it's been taking so long for him to say anything.
"I'm sorry, I was being disgusting, there's no excuse for it."
How fucking hard is it to put out a video like that? That shouldn't take a fucking week.
It seems like Pyro is just gonna disappear for about a year and then attempt to comeback. From looking through his subreddit, I imagine there is a decent number of fans who would still support him for some reason
It seems like Pyro is just gonna disappear for about a year and then attempt to comeback. From looking through his subreddit, I imagine there is a decent number of fans who would still support him for some reason
I remember there was a Overwatch video from Pyro with Hyojin in it and she was pretty annoying, a lot people commented how annoying she was which led to Pyro making a video claiming disgust at the insults hurled her way and alleged harassment sent to her. I remember how out of character this response video kind of felt but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised since she was his girlfriend at the time... I think? Still I wouldn't be surprised if this was Hyojin's attempt at garnering clout because of her manipulation in the shit involving Slazo. In fact, I think the harassment and shit from Pyro's overwatch video was fabricated personally but I have no evidence for that so take that as you will.
I remember this. There actually were a lot of comments that are now deleted of people ripping into her for her laugh. Her mic kept clipping because how loud she was. I'm a sucker for "haha funee loud noise" most of the time so I personally just found it made the video more entertaining, but I can definitely see how some might find it annoying. A lot of the shit that was said about her wasn't justified just because she was being loud though.
That's incorrect. It was Hyojin herself who was involved in the attack on Slazo; there's no evidence that Pyro was involved in it in any way, and the two had already separated by the time. It's also unlikely that Pyro would join in on an attack on Slazo, considering that the two are friends, and it was largely exposure from Pyro that got Slazo big in the first place.
The thing that's really upsetting the most right now is that it's been taking so long for him to say anything.
"I'm sorry, I was being disgusting, there's no excuse for it."
How fucking hard is it to put out a video like that? That shouldn't take a fucking week.
Because that's probably not what he's going to do. Dolan Dark said Pyro is making another response, and I'm sure it's gonna be a lot more than that. He's probably taking time to ensure that the response is good and thoroughly covers every detail of the whole situation, but with new stuff being released by the day, that's only going to prolong the process of him making the video if he really wants to cover everything in detail.