Tried to see if I could find anything interesting with old archives of Pyro's twitter but I really couldn't find anything or I'm too retarded to notice anything. The earliest archives are from May and September of 2016
Tried to see if any of the other artists who did fan art for him tweeted anything about the recent shit, or had posted oddly more lewd than what they usual do art for pyro but unfortunately most of the art accounts no longer exists on twitter and the ones that do haven't mentioned Pyro for 4 years
Aside from my failed autistic attempt at digging up shit here's Keemstar bashing the shit out of Pyro for being a furry to brighten the mood
Why should anyone care for Keem's supposed motives? He's ironically the most honest in this cesspit that is the YouTube drama/commentary community. Most of these decently sized YouTube commentary channels have personal connections with all the other ones, so they'll cover for each other if there is something that would make the community look bad. I have a feeling other commentary channels knew Niall was a degenerate furry messing with minors, but they didn't talk about it because they're all together in this one community. If they come out now to expose Niall now that it's popular, I wouldn't be surprised.
Why don't you summarize the video for us? Not everyone has the time or patience to watch a poorly made video by some random trying to defend their favorite eceleb.
Why don't you summarize the video for us? Not everyone has the time or patience to watch a poorly made video by some random trying to defend their favorite eceleb.
Why don't you summarize the video for us? Not everyone has the time or patience to watch a poorly made video by some random trying to defend their favorite eceleb.
If you can't be bothered to watch a 4 min vid (and which the title says it all no less) I can't help you. But in short, despite Pyro not totally innocent, Ivory is still shady for waiting till now to release this.
He's ironically the most honest in this cesspit that is the YouTube drama/commentary community. Most of these decently sized YouTube commentary channels have personal connections with all the other ones, so they'll cover for each other if there is something that would make the community look bad. I have a feeling other commentary channels knew Niall was a degenerate furry messing with minors, but they didn't talk about it because they're all together in this one community. If they come out now to expose Niall now that it's popular, I wouldn't be surprised.
Which is why I think Turk Tommy's and co days might be numbered. It's one thing to look at this as just an observer. It's another to be a moral crusader about it, no matter how bad the person you're attacking is. Because eventually you gain rivals and enemies and it's only a matter of time before your dirty laundry get's aired out and/or you fall off the high horse.
As for Pyro, didn't he distanced himself from the commentary community for whatever reason? (partly as a way to hide his degeneracy as one of them) He haven't made any collabs in god knows how long and he was never dragged into any other major dramas which known associates of his were a part of. Others may pile on but that might spell the end of them and the drama/commentary community (hopefully because good riddance). Pyro at this point would have to make a video clearing the air once and for all and make apologies or do the ChannelAwsome route and ignore it in hopes of everyone eventually giving up.
If you can't be bothered to watch a 4 min vid (and which the title says it all no less) I can't help you. But in short, despite Pyro not totally innocent, Ivory is still shady for waiting till now to release this.
The person I was replying to made mediocre posts which were essentially just YouTube links to random retards screeching about how Niall is innocent. They're links by the way, you can easily embed your YouTube links so that nobody has to go to YouTube to follow what could be any video. A summary would've been helpful and actually add to the discussion.
Which is why I think Turk Tommy's and co days might be numbered. It's one thing to look at this as just an observer. It's another to be a moral crusader about it, no matter how bad the person you're attacking is. Because eventually you gain rivals and enemies and it's only a matter of time before your dirty laundry get's aired out and/or you fall off the high horse.
As for Pyro, didn't he distanced himself from the commentary community for whatever reason? (partly as a way to hide his degeneracy as one of them) He haven't made any collabs in god knows how long and he was never dragged into any other major dramas which known associates of his were a part of. Others may pile on but that might spell the end of them and the drama/commentary community (hopefully because good riddance). Pyro at this point would have to make a video clearing the air once and for all and make apologies or do the ChannelAwsome route and ignore it in hopes of everyone eventually giving up.
I probably should've specified that I was talking about drama commentary, the genre most associated with that community or cringe commentary (as popularized by LeafyIsHere). Niall now does video game commentary and movie commentary, but his roots aren't hidden. I still believe he keeps in touch with others in the community because I can't think of a more interconnected YouTube sphere except maybe the beauty community. It's just bad for business, the beauty community proves that considering all the drama. The moment it goes from business partners to friends, you have to be REALLY careful. I genuinely think those people are Niall's only friends assuming he has no friends outside of YouTube. He was also the new idol that everyone followed after LeafyIsHere left. With how jaded Colossal sounded in a documentary I watched regarding soph (formerly known as LtCorbis), it doesn't look too good for the commentary community.
If the accusations are true, the YouTube commentary community will either change dramatically by propping up a new idol or completely fall apart just like the skeptic community.
As for Pyro, didn't he distanced himself from the commentary community for whatever reason? (partly as a way to hide his degeneracy as one of them) He haven't made any collabs in god knows how long and he was never dragged into any other major dramas which known associates of his were a part of. Others may pile on but that might spell the end of them and the drama/commentary community (hopefully because good riddance). Pyro at this point would have to make a video clearing the air once and for all and make apologies or do the ChannelAwsome route and ignore it in hopes of everyone eventually giving up.
I think Pyro still has connections to the commentary community but hasn't really openly interacted with them much after the zaptie shit happened. I think the final videos where he interacted with his commentary circle openly was when he was on hiatus and had his friends run the channel for a while. I could be wrong and maybe forgotten some overwatch video he did with said circle after the zaptie shit but as far as a quick skim through videos goes he never really mentioned them except in fan animations he'd upload.
Pyro is somewhat self aware, mainly because he tried to hide his degeneracy where as the average fur fag would try to wear it as a badge of honor and he was quite aware of how formulaic youtube apologies go (Start with a sigh, bring in cute animal, over justify the actions you were called out for, etc.) which is why I think he admitted the logs were real (If he'd lied and denied they were real he would've been fucked over more I think). I think he will take the Channel Awesome approach as in not respond anymore and wait for everything to blow over to continue uploading videos as if nothing happened, but you never know.
- Ivory waited a long time to expose Pyro because he wanted to wait until Pyro's channel grew bigger only to then take him down.
- Ivory was 16 at the time, so he would've known about NSFW.
- Ivory's exaggerating this whole incident for clout.
Finally, a reason to make an account on this website. Been listening to Josh's streams forever, but never made an account here.
Anyway, I could add to this topic. What's funny to me is that the "clout chasing" accusations made against Ivory are likely true imo.
I used to talk with Ivory back in 2015/2016. He always sent me his shitty music at the time, and I was there to give him a friendly pat on the back. However through my experience with him, he kinda changed. He started talking about Pyrocynical a lot, and some of his friends. Through Telegram conversations and various Twitter posts at the time, I'm certain he stalked Niall in the effort to become buddies with him. He basically found out who Niall's lesser-known or unknown friends were, became friends with them, and I assume worked his way to Niall through Discord, gaming, and the like. He often bragged over Telegram with messages like "Just got out of a voice chat with Pyro UwU".
In my eyes, once a clout chaser, always a clout chaser. I think that's just something hardwired into people's brains, they'll always crave notoriety and attention in one way or another. There's no doubt in my mind that currently, Ivory may feel like he's been wronged, but I'm also certain he's doing this for the attention.
He deleted this Telegram account and started a new one shortly after. Him and I talked on there, but unfortunately I don't have screenshots of our conversations from his second Telegram account where he clearly obsessed over Niall. I deleted all my old conversations sometime a few years ago like a fucking retard. I must've stopped after a certain number of conversations (I have several hundred), as I found this one at the very bottom.
I understand my evidence is just "trust me bro," but I really don't give much more of a shit to do some more digging. I could probably find some more dirt if I wanted to spend hours searching. But this isn't an Ivory thread, it's a Pyro thread. It's all I wanted to add to this drama. Ivory's intentions are shady, and he's kind of a fucking retard.
https://twitter.com/keiko43969061/status/1338609360407236608
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Someone made a google doc against ivory. It's not too long so consider reading this. Dude also was blocked by ivory after asking him why he asked pyro for porn and was scrolling so fast on his video showing the dms.
It really doesn't matter what people dig up now or whatever, because even when this shit is supposedly clearer, this Ivory dickhead STILL manages to make shit a complicated bunch of fuckshit. All I've gotten out of this is a desire to put a bullet in my skull every time I see another one of these fucking dime a dozen drama bullshit channels. Seriously, how the fuck is it a site MEANT for archiving autism and slapfights is less insufferable than a bunch of youtube channels? Maybe it's because there isn't any voices or annoying thumbnails...
It's this bullshit trial by twitter culture on the internet that genuinely makes it difficult to take any of these allegations and what happened on both sides seriously.
Ivory being a clout chasing sped doesn't make pyro less of a weirdo, I think that while his intentions clearly aren't great it doesn't negate the fact that pyro wanted to fly out a 16-year-old.