Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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All the people making excuses like "Oh they're just not sure!" make me so cross. Ffs, this virus only affects a small minority of people. These politicians deserve to be held accountable for making a mountain out of a molehill. I wonder how many people want to mob Parliament and scream at Bojo.
Boris the fuckwit has just announced that uk.gov have invented a new tier 4 for even more restrictions on people. the south east is in it, travel in and out is restricted, everything is shut down. families can only meet up on christmas day everywhere else. He blamed a "new variant" for the change of tack. I bet they'll call it covid 20 so that the factcheckers can call "covid 21" a conspiracy theory.

I'm entirely expecting him to cancel christmas nationwide next week. Probably on christmas eve, just to make it that much more frustrating.
I wouldn't be surprised if they said all of a sudden nobody could be together on Christmas and everybody had to be alone. It's been awfully shit for my friends, especially since their new house they moved in has been having issues and nobody could come in to have a look because of the bullshit restrictions.
 
  • The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
  • The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
  • The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
  • The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.
I'm less concerned about 2 and 3 given the fact I've not heard of COVID patients finding themselves infertile so far and I'd be surprised if they put a dangerous amount of polyethylene glycol in the vaccine, but 1 and 4 however do see plausible

It's been nine months. Does anyone really believe the government is going to end this any time soon voluntarily?
The government will end before the pandemic does at this rate
 
Theres no way to know if infertility is a factor and won't be for a few years. It takes a long time to evaluate that as being diagnosed with infertility is not an instant process but a long period of evaluation and tests after you realize something might be wrong.

My wife won't be getting this and no woman of child bearing age should either unless they have a special vulnerability to COVID.
 
It's been nine months. Does anyone really believe the government is going to end this any time soon voluntarily?

I doubt it and the same question should be ask to various medical associations. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/ama_lied__how_many_died.html
December 18, 2020

AMA Lied – How Many Died?​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

The American Medical Association has been adamantly against hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic for COVID for the past year. Just a few days before the presidential election they reversed course, reversing their opposition. Did they suddenly realize HCQ might have benefit in certain patient groups or were they lying for the past year? How many individuals died as a result of being denied potential lifesaving treatment?
The AMA is synonymous with organized medicine, despite myriad specialty societies that may better represent the needs of its member physicians. In fact, only 12 percent of practicing physicians belong to the AMA due to concerns that the AMA is more interested in its own finances and politics than the concerns of doctors.
When the AMA talks, media and the public listen, due to their perceived clout. Last spring, the AMA issued a statement critical of hydroxychloroquine as it was being used off-label in the treatment of COVID, not FDA-approved for this purpose with supposed “dangerous side effects.”
Quietly at the end of October, the AMA issued a new statement, conveniently overlooked by the media, giving the green light to doctors prescribing HCQ to their COVID patients.

RESOLVED, that our American Medical Association rescind its statement calling for physicians to stop prescribing hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine until sufficient evidence becomes available to conclusively illustrate that the harm associated with use outweighs benefit early in the disease course.
An updated statement clarifying our support for a physician’s ability to prescribe an FDA-approved medication for off label use, if it is in her/his best clinical judgement, with specific reference to the use of hydroxychloroquine and combination therapies for the treatment of the earliest stage of COVID-19.
What changed since last spring? How many COVID deaths could have been prevented if doctors, using their professional and clinical judgement, could have prescribed HCQ without fear of ostracization or loss of their jobs?
HCQ has been around since the 1950s, approved as a malarial preventative and for treatment of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. It is relatively safe, except for the one in a thousand with a rare cardiac arrhythmia, easily identified by a pretreatment EKG. In many African countries, HCQ is available without a prescription for malaria prevention.
The problem arose when President Trump touted HCQ as a “potential therapeutic,” based on early reports of doctors prescribing it with good results. He did not tell anyone to take it but held it out as hope to a country suffering under a pandemic with lockdowns, quarantines, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Trump also took HCQ himself, prescribed by the White House medical team. If Trump claimed drinking water was healthy, the media and medical establishment would have denounced it, citing cases of people dying from drinking too much water.
A perfect example was Fox News crank Neil Cavuto screaming how hydroxy “will kill you.” This was based on a flawed VA study finding no benefit for HCQ in a severely ill cohort of patients, and a higher death rate among those receiving HCQ. This was a retrospective study which did not address the possibility that HCQ was given to sicker patients, who were more likely to die anyway.
 



Video of arrest at Calgary rink results in accusations of police ‘going overboard’​

https://globalnews.ca/news/7531847/video-arrest-calgary-rink-police/ (https://archive.vn/diVZh)
Excerpt:
Supt. Ryan Ayliffe said they will focus on compassion in these situations but will not tolerate people who don’t want to comply.

“We are seeing officers continually put into these untenable positions where they have to diffuse and support bylaw,” Ayliffe said. “What’s happening through our lens is good people are trying to find pieces of what they want to do in a changing environment and it is stressing people out to the max.”
 
Firstly, it has that mortality even after all the measures that have been put in place,
Mortality rate =/= kill count.
2 out of 1000 doesn't change whether you have 100 people or 100 million people.

That'd be like saying the Common European adder is deadlier than the Inland Taipan because the former has killed more than the later.
mortality isn't the entirety of the virus' effects,
No, but lasting damage is rare, especially amongst the Coronaviridae family, and almost exclusively tied to severe cases.
the virus spreads insanely quickly meaning that more people get it and get it at the same time which paralyzes the workforce and overwhelms health systems. You're comparing apples to oranges.
The vast majority of those who get severely sick are past working age anyways. The whole "paralyzes the workforce" meme is an unproven myth shit out by those trying to justify lockdowns.
There is zero proof that businesses, wages and employment would have suffered nearly as hard had their been no lockdown and no forced measures in place.

>this weird hydroxyloclacklemacrel (around for decades) is going to KILL YOU and make you BLEED OUT OF YOUR FUCKING EYES
>take this rushed and barely tested novel vaccine and if you don't YOU HATE SCIENCE AND EDUCATION
Honestly I don't buy the HCQ hype beyond "take ur vitamins & immune boosters", but the effort to make a proven drug seem suddenly deadly is dubious.
Like fuck, at least attack its efficacy in beating the virus (its a fucking anti-malarial lol), not make up shit that it does to you to scare people from taking it.
 
Theres no way to know if infertility is a factor and won't be for a few years. It takes a long time to evaluate that as being diagnosed with infertility is not an instant process but a long period of evaluation and tests after you realize something might be wrong.

My wife won't be getting this and no woman of child bearing age should either unless they have a special vulnerability to COVID.
The worst thing is that these companies manufacturing the virus can't be held accountable or sued for anything that goes wrong.
 
The fucking smugness.

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https://twitter.com/kathryniveyy/status/1340299692584955906 (https://archive.vn/L2gJH)
 
What cloying, narcissistic turds. So Dr. Bugman went to his car and sobbed afterward? Seriously? If that's true (it's not), that means he's mentally unwell, and people shouldn't even trust that limpdicked little sissy to prescribe cough medicine.

I can't wait to see what these people are going to say when, a year from now, we are told that the lockdowns and authoritarianism need to continue in spite of these magic vaccines. They'll probably jump for joy at yet more opportunities to preen and be praised.
 
for the umpteenth time i like to ask: how are people still scaremongering over covid when the vaccine is being actively distributed at this point? why do they still feel the need to guilt people into staying home and wearing masks and whatever?
It's literally a media cope because they're upset they can't keep people in their houses watching their channel 24/7 to make extra money.
 

AP: States spent over $7B competing for early virus supplies​

https://apnews.com/article/business...assachusetts-cb8c50c43781d81957ef8a1e61869ca7 (https://archive.vn/2omnl)
Excerpt:
The AP tallied more than $7 billion in purchases by states this spring for personal protective equipment, or PPE, and high-demand medical devices such as ventilators and infrared thermometers.

The data, obtained through open-records requests, is the most comprehensive accounting to date of how much states were buying, what they were spending and whom they were paying during a chaotic spring when inadequate national stockpiles left state governments scrambling for hard-to-get supplies. Much of the buying happened outside normal competitive bidding procedures and, in many states a lack of transparency from governors’ administrations made it difficult for the public — and even lawmakers — to see how taxpayer money was being spent.
 
Boris the fuckwit has just announced that uk.gov have invented a new tier 4 for even more restrictions on people. the south east is in it, travel in and out is restricted, everything is shut down. families can only meet up on christmas day everywhere else. He blamed a "new variant" for the change of tack. I bet they'll call it covid 20 so that the factcheckers can call "covid 21" a conspiracy theory.

I'm entirely expecting him to cancel christmas nationwide next week. Probably on christmas eve, just to make it that much more frustrating.
Remember when South Australia supposedly had some new outbreak of a variant that turned out to be a nothingburger?
 
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