What game do you wish Phil would play? - AKA best future TIHYDP material?

[Big Brown Schlub]

I just beat Nioh 2's final DLC. I wish he'd go back to Nioh 2 for the DLCs, but I doubt it, in any case it almost feels like the developers KNEW what build Phil was running in the base game. All the three final bosses (though to be fair I'm not too sure about this DLC's final boss because I run a purity build so I don't use other elements) negate his cheese build the same way those chargebacks gacha pulls negate his tips. To refresh your memory, he used a cheese lightning element+sloth talisman magic build. Sloth talisman slows down an enemy by half, while saturating an enemy with lightning does the same. They stack, so sloth+electrified ailment slows an enemy down to 1/4 speed. Pure bullshit cheese, but expected of Phil.

Minamoto-no-Yoshitsune, the first DLC's boss is completely immune to all elements except purity. It's also hard to hit him with sloth talisman because he zips around the arena like crazy. He'd be this game's Date Masamune and would make Phil ragequit guaranteed. Then again, a previous story boss Uminyudo is also resistant to lightning, he's basically the big water boss from Nioh 1 but he also swings a big anchor around and does electric damage because he's the demon form of Taira-no-Kiyomori so I guess it's relevant??? No idea. Nue also makes a return from Nioh 1 as a side-mission boss. Nue is basically the Japanese chimera that shoots lightning. Can you guess what element they're immune to? It's lightning.
In the second DLC, the last boss is The Eight Lightning Gods of the Underworld. Wow, I sure wonder what element they're immune to! Then again, I'm expecting too much here, I'm expecting that he wouldn't just ragequit at Yoshitsune in the first DLC.

Nier: Automata

because as far as I know, he hasn’t played it yet

He did twice, once back when Leanna was around but he just did Route A, then a few years later he decided to do the rest of the main routes.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I just beat Nioh 2's final DLC. I wish he'd go back to Nioh 2 for the DLCs, but I doubt it, in any case it almost feels like the developers KNEW what build Phil was running in the base game. All the three final bosses (though to be fair I'm not too sure about this DLC's final boss because I run a purity build so I don't use other elements) negate his cheese build the same way those chargebacks gacha pulls negate his tips. To refresh your memory, he used a cheese lightning element+sloth talisman magic build. Sloth talisman slows down an enemy by half, while saturating an enemy with lightning does the same. They stack, so sloth+electrified ailment slows an enemy down to 1/4 speed. Pure bullshit cheese, but expected of Phil.

Minamoto-no-Yoshitsune, the first DLC's boss is completely immune to all elements except purity. It's also hard to hit him with sloth talisman because he zips around the arena like crazy. He'd be this game's Date Masamune and would make Phil ragequit guaranteed. Then again, a previous story boss Uminyudo is also resistant to lightning, he's basically the big water boss from Nioh 1 but he also swings a big anchor around and does electric damage because he's the demon form of Taira-no-Kiyomori so I guess it's relevant??? No idea. Nue also makes a return from Nioh 1 as a side-mission boss. Nue is basically the Japanese chimera that shoots lightning. Can you guess what element they're immune to? It's lightning.
In the second DLC, the last boss is The Eight Lightning Gods of the Underworld. Wow, I sure wonder what element they're immune to! Then again, I'm expecting too much here, I'm expecting that he wouldn't just ragequit at Yoshitsune in the first DLC.

He did twice, once back when Leanna was around but he just did Route A, then a few years later he decided to do the rest of the main routes.

I also wish he went back to play the DLC, but he just got it parked in his PS4 since July. I also really fucking hated how Phil essentially played the game in baby mode instead of learning how to properly fight enemies and be better at playing (for example, he never discovered that Nure Onnas are weak to lightning and barely used it against them. And don't get me started on switching stances... Specially with the switchglaive). He also made the same complaints he made in Nioh 1: he didn't dissasembled gear to have crafting items later, he didn't grinded for patronage to invest into money making later, didn't knew how to properly upgrade his gear... Jesus, the list goes on and on.

But i bet the regular new enemies in the DLCs would be the bane of his existance. Let's take the Heike Crabs, a fucking textbook enemy that you have to attack from behind (or spam them with elemental attacks). Phil would ram his head against them heads up and constantly complain his attacks do not damage. Complain against the monkey guys spamming magic... And then of course he would get to Benkei, which is pretty fucking hard. And you better don't forget that DSP doesn't grind for good gear, so he would be up against the DLC enemies and bosses on shitty underleveled gear and bitch about "taking too much damage" while refusing to change his weapons and armor for anything better (and with the new blessings system, he would say it's even more complicated).

Also, the first DLC buffed lightning indirectly thanks to the new soul cores boosting damage and elemental life drain, making lightning dedicated builds amazingly good in terms of damage and survivability. But the thing is that his build is not dedicated to anything, so it sucks in overall fighting. No great damage, no survivability in any way, no capacity to tank (even if he said before he had a "tank build" yet he wears no heavy armor nor tank dedicated weapons that allow him to poise tank).

I think that if he goes back to Nioh 2 DLC, the first mission would be like when he fought Shigezane: he would complain everything is too hard, die a million times, get lost and drown a few times, lose to benkei a lot (he hits really hard and he's faster than you think) and then die a lot more to the Uminyudo (since it still has the instakill laser). So i don't know if he would have the patience to make it to Yoshitsune... Or do the secondary missions.

I wish they nerfed the Sloth Talismans like they did in Nioh 1 when the second DLC hit, making it virtually useless.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

And don't get me started on switching stances... Specially with the switchglaive

He switched from MidStanceSpear in Nioh 1 to HighStanceSwitchglaive. He only did the strong attack string too. Switchglaives shine as a really aggressive weapon since their stance switching attacks allow you to lengthen your combos, hell it allows you to do a long combo which lasts until you run out of ki, it allows that kind of non-stop aggression. But we all know that Dave plays as a passive pussy. He could've just picked a slow, more defensive/counterstriking (or reactionary as Dave calls it) weapon like Axe/Hammer or the Odachi if he wanted to keep playing like that, but nah I gotta try out the new weapon and then do nothing to showcase its strengths or playstyle dood!

And you better don't forget that DSP doesn't grind for good gear, so he would be up against the DLC enemies and bosses on shitty underleveled gear and bitch about "taking too much damage" while refusing to change his weapons and armor for anything better (and with the new blessings system, he would say it's even more complicated).

Just like in Nioh 1, doing all the main missions in the first region on NG+ would give me good enough gear to tackle the first DLC in NG. It would take 1-2 hours at most, but we all know how much Dave hates playing video games so that's out of the question.

Also, the first DLC buffed lightning indirectly thanks to the new soul cores boosting damage and elemental life drain, making lightning dedicated builds amazingly good in terms of damage and survivability. But the thing is that his build is not dedicated to anything, so it sucks in overall fighting. No great damage, no survivability in any way, no capacity to tank (even if he said before he had a "tank build" yet he wears no heavy armor nor tank dedicated weapons that allow him to poise tank).

Yeah, but still it doesn't help at all against the bosses since just in the first DLC Uminyudo is very resistant to lightning since he uses it himself, Nue (implying he'd even play side missions) is a lightning chimera so that's out of the question too and Yoshitsune is immune to everything except purity element. And yeah, I think he used either Shinto Priest or Onmyo Hunter gear, both of which is light armor. If he wanted a tanky magic build there isn't a heavy armor one sadly unless you get the Onmyo grace on heavy armor, but we all know that this would require Dave to get lucky on drops/smithing so that's out of the question. However, Saito Toshimitsu's and Akechi Mitsuhide's sets are both really good alternatives and they're medium armor, which isn't ideal but I played with medium armor all the way to NG+++ (namely Kingo's) and with life drain on your armor you can tank well enough, but I didn't really use it for tanking, just general survivability. The game doesn't even ramp up in difficulty until NG++ either and Dave probably wouldn't even beat NG+ anyway so that's a moot point.

I wish they nerfed the Sloth Talismans like they did in Nioh 1 when the second DLC hit, making it virtually useless.

I disagree since it basically made magic shit in Nioh 1 and there was no reason to bump magic up over level 30 with ANY build, even ones that used a lot of magic. I like that they made magic more useful now because it makes buffs and debuffs last longer if you invest into it. Sloth is a crutch for noobz anyway and it won't help him at all. It's expensive to prepare, for one Sloth you can get like 2.5 Weakness and 3 Devigorates for example which are much more useful. I do wish they made offensive magic better, fucking Ninjutsu has better direct elemental damage through the use of Feather Shadow Arts that they added in Nioh 2 which is retarded. Just makes you wish you could do the crazy shit Saito Toshimitsu can do in the duel against him.

But that's enough Nioh 2 puzzle piece sperging for now.

EDIT:
I don't know why I've only realized it now but it would be the greatest comedy to me if he ragequit on Minamoto-no-Yoshitsune because he's a literal woodwind instrument player in the game, he even plays the flute to summon his guardian spirit in the fight

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

He switched from MidStanceSpear in Nioh 1 to HighStanceSwitchglaive. He only did the strong attack string too. Switchglaives shine as a really aggressive weapon since their stance switching attacks allow you to lengthen your combos, hell it allows you to do a long combo which lasts until you run out of ki, it allows that kind of non-stop aggression. But we all know that Dave plays as a passive pussy. He could've just picked a slow, more defensive/counterstriking (or reactionary as Dave calls it) weapon like Axe/Hammer or the Odachi if he wanted to keep playing like that, but nah I gotta try out the new weapon and then do nothing to showcase its strengths or playstyle dood!

Not only that, the Switchglaive heavily encourages non-stop aggresion with its top skills, which boost your attack or lower your stamina usage every time you do a switch attack. Phil got them but never got his money's worth out of them, which was downright retarded, being particularly pathetic the second fight against Tokijiro where he stopped trying to do switch attacks and just spamming quick attack in high stance saying "It's much better".

And this comes from a man that ditched the Clever Rat's Ring in Demon's Souls. The most broken ring in the game that will turn you into a fucking beast.

Just like in Nioh 1, doing all the main missions in the first region on NG+ would give me good enough gear to tackle the first DLC in NG. It would take 1-2 hours at most, but we all know how much Dave hates playing video games so that's out of the question.

Not only that, i remember when he started playing Nioh 1 first DLC and he stood by his underleveled shitty gear for a good trek of the game because "It's supposed to be a tank build and i'm using tank gear". And i admit that Shigezane is brutal, but fighting him with weapons and armor 20 levels below the recommended mission level is stupid. The thing is that he will actually refuse to fight using better gear.

Yeah, but still it doesn't help at all against the bosses since just in the first DLC Uminyudo is very resistant to lightning since he uses it himself, Nue (implying he'd even play side missions) is a lightning chimera so that's out of the question too and Yoshitsune is immune to everything except purity element. And yeah, I think he used either Shinto Priest or Onmyo Hunter gear, both of which is light armor. If he wanted a tanky magic build there isn't a heavy armor one sadly unless you get the Onmyo grace on heavy armor, but we all know that this would require Dave to get lucky on drops/smithing so that's out of the question. However, Saito Toshimitsu's and Akechi Mitsuhide's sets are both really good alternatives and they're medium armor, which isn't ideal but I played with medium armor all the way to NG+++ (namely Kingo's) and with life drain on your armor you can tank well enough, but I didn't really use it for tanking, just general survivability. The game doesn't even ramp up in difficulty until NG++ either and Dave probably wouldn't even beat NG+ anyway so that's a moot point.

I know it doesn't help since they are lightning based enemies and Yoshitsune doesn't give a fuck anyways. But if Phil decided to go for something else (wishful thinking, i know) he would do well equipping those soul cores. Aside from that, Phil wasn't using onmyo dedicated gear, just Kingo armor. Like i said, he didn't commited to anything except to cheesing. And whenever he tried forging new gear, the game fucked him right in the ass giving him normal or uncommon gear at best, therefore wasting all his crafting materials and making him rage at the RNG.

Tbh, life drain in the armor is pretty nice, but i went for life on amrita absorption and constantly spamming extraction talismans. This makes enemies that release amrita on hit (like skeletons or flying bolts) heal you like no tomorrow. I also dedicated myself to light armor since i went for ninja or mage builds seeing that both magic and ninjutsu are damn great at dealing raw damage.

I do wish they made offensive magic better, fucking Ninjutsu has better direct elemental damage through the use of Feather Shadow Arts that they added in Nioh 2 which is retarded. Just makes you wish you could do the crazy shit Saito Toshimitsu can do in the duel against him.

Yeah, Sloth is more of a crutch and like you say, you have much better alternatives to utility buffs. But damn if people always take sloth like it's a must have.

Offensive magic is pretty decent, but the limitations are really what makes it less impressive (like you said, Saito is a beast with magic). I made dedicated elemental builds and gotta say that if you commit entirely to 1 element with gear bonus + guardian spirit bonuses (like Ninetails fire damage bonus) you can still rack a lot of damage. But against bosses they are a bit lackluster unless the enemy is big (in which case, geyser show and thunder shot can do a crapload of damage). If it's against a small or fast enemy, you better equip the normal shots or you're just wasting your magic.

Quite a difference compared to a dedicated projectile ninja build that can destroy everything with kunais and shurikens.

But enough of sperging about builds, Phil would suck anyways. I mean, he sucked so fucking much at the Demon's Souls remake even tho he played the fucking game twice before and it's a word for word remake, using the same braindead AI of the original.

 

[Mostly Here For Lurking]

Any Rance game. Especially one of the strategy titles.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

Any Rance game. Especially one of the strategy titles.

Oh kamahn dood those games are so immachoor! I have a wife *points Silvanyo* for fahks sake!

 

[Tom Went To The Mayor]

Been playing Sonic Mania again after buying the Encore DLC back in August and I think Encore Mode would've really frustrated Phil. There's no lives system(only continues), he would bitch and moan about switching to characters he didn't want(Uuuuh, I didn't want Ray you stoopid game)and would probably complain about Encore Mode being cash grab/rehash of Mania Mode.

 

[OverlySensitive]

I'd like to see Phil play some games like Mushihimesama, Wizardry or Might and Magic, maybe some Crusader Kings...... I'm just curious if he would apply himself a bit but I'm sure he would just rage and quite them.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Wizardry or Might and Magic, maybe some Crusader Kings

Oh, i think he would be absolutely stumped in the Might and Magic series. It's simple yet you have to learn through habits. Even in something so simple as Heroes of Might and Magic he probably won't be able to finish a campaign. I'm also curious about how he would do in Grand Strategy games, but since he has such a short attention span, i doubt he would be able to grasp the mechanics for long term success. Just look how he did in Starcraft 2.

But now that strategy games come up, i would definetly love to see him fuck up at Stronghold Crusader. That would definetly be fun.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

That's the problem with hoping Phil will stumble into a difficult game, about the only time he exercises any intelligence is when he's trying to avoid being laughed for sucking at video games. He may be dumb, but he can still usually see it coming when he's going to get his ass kicked in a way that the chat can't prevent, and so pretty deftly avoids it. He still gets salty at games, but not the way he would if he were too stupid to know a legit hard one when he saw it.

 

[JamusActimus]

Return of the Obra Dinn.

I doubt he has the I.Q to get even half the crew right

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

That's the problem with hoping Phil will stumble into a difficult game, about the only time he exercises any intelligence is when he's trying to avoid being laughed for sucking at video games. He may be dumb, but he can still usually see it coming when he's going to get his ass kicked in a way that the chat can't prevent, and so pretty deftly avoids it. He still gets salty at games, but not the way he would if he were too stupid to know a legit hard one when he saw it.

Yeah, this is absolutely right. We see him constantly underestimate children games and he fucks up terribly when playing stuff like Crash Bandicoot, Crash Racing or Pokemon, at which he sucks hard and rages like a little kid. I was actually surprised that he went to play Morrowind, thinking he finally took the bait thinking it would be like Skyrim and then discovered that he was getting his hand held by the chat constantly. He asked absolutely everything he had to do (like pick a race, class), how to level up, where to go...

In a sense, we can say that Phil has been steadily learning his lesson with games. Look at him playing Demon's Souls last month. Even having him raging every time he plays a From Soft game, he still does it. And he does it only because he knows people WILL watch it. This makes my hopes of seeing him play Nioh 2 Dlc dwindle a bit because he probably learned his lesson from Date Shigezane and Masamune last time.

 

[OverlySensitive]

I just want Phil to apply himself honestly. Without chat help, without walkthroughs. He couldn't even play Bugsnax without assistance from Sir Derich. He is not bad he can do stuff he choses not to and that bothers me. He doesn't even have the will to try he just throws his hands up in the air and refuses to play if he doesn't get help and while that's probably more of a means to milk out some bits, its unreal to see him do so consistently.

Most of the fun involved with watching people fail is the genuine emotion they feel. Phil has none of that and honestly its what makes him redundant and hard to watch because insert game and repeat. There's no variation in his conduct whether he likes a game or not. Any single TIHYDP could quite literally be every game Phil has ever played and there ya go. It's also why im pissed the people who pay him tell him if by 9:00 you don't get your goal we will pay out. He has the money in the bag and knows it so whatever feeling he may have up to that point is clearly fake because he knows his money is there waiting.

I mean if they want him to loose viewers its probably the most effective means. Take out anything that makes Phil fun to watch and who will? I mean once he gets his money I rarely pay attention anymore fake anger is gone and he doesn't genuinely beg. What's the point?

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

Regarding Grand Strategy games, I find it hilarious that he'd struggle at them and constantly go "uuuh, wut do i do" despite the fact that already halfway through CK2 Paradox decided "fuck it" and made each and every new game and DLC for existing games they've released be simple and easy enough so that even Derich can play them, usually because there's half a dozen mechanics that are overpowered as shit that you can abuse for the entire game and completely ignore every other mechanic, usually that's how the DLCs that turned the games into babymode worked - just add some OP as fuck mechanic that allows you to ignore 3-4 more complex existing mechanics. The only DLC in CK2 that added a bit of difficulty was Conclave since now you had to give more of a shit about your council and your most powerful vassals.

In any case, it just makes me more hyped about his inevitable Divinity Original Sin playthrough. He called it a JRPG-style game. Oh boy is he in for a rude awakening, D: OS games have the same core gameplay as classic western RPGs like Baldur's Gate, Fallout 1 and 2, Ultima, Neverwinter Nights etc. By comparison JRPG games come across as games made for Derichs with how more complex classic WRPGs are in regards to more open-ended objectives and side missions, combat mechanics, party building etc. Since Western RPGs usually have D&D or any other pen and paper system at their core, they all have complex character creation systems, whereas JRPGs usually just dump you with "pre-made" characters with clear roles regarding how they should be used with all the stats pre-made too. Of course, JRPGs aren't all Derich-tier games, they create challenge differently than WRPGs, but they still don't have a learning curve as steep as classic WRPGs, where most of the difficulty comes from knowing how to build your characters well and usually aren't hard after you understand all of the different mechanics.

I think I said it in the main thread but if Davenport played something like Baldur's Gate he wouldn't know how to even make a fighter-class character so he'd make a shitty character with 13 in every stat and then wonder why his character fucking sucks, can't hit anything and dies to a stiff wind.
It's gonna be Morrowind 2.0 where he'll have his eyes glued at the stream chat 24/7 and have them tell him what to do next EXACTLY step by step. It's gonna take him 3 times longer to beat the game compared to the average player just because of that.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

@Malagor the dank omen People will watch, but it also doesn't embarrass him nearly as much as a lot of old games because the chat can help him to an extent.

The thing I would most like him to do is either tackle the notoriously difficult games of yesteryear like the original Ninja Gaiden, or Ghosts amd Goblins. But he's not going to that era, ever. Nor will he stream any offline Street Fighter because it would expose his lies and he knows it.

 

[Jebu Nagazi]

´Russian Roulette!
(Loading all the chambers)...
- Here you go Phil use this ^^ !

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I just want Phil to apply himself honestly. Without chat help, without walkthroughs. He couldn't even play Bugsnax without assistance from Sir Derich. He is not bad he can do stuff he choses not to and that bothers me. He doesn't even have the will to try he just throws his hands up in the air and refuses to play if he doesn't get help and while that's probably more of a means to milk out some bits, its unreal to see him do so consistently.

Most of the fun involved with watching people fail is the genuine emotion they feel. Phil has none of that and honestly its what makes him redundant and hard to watch because insert game and repeat. There's no variation in his conduct whether he likes a game or not. Any single TIHYDP could quite literally be every game Phil has ever played and there ya go. It's also why im pissed the people who pay him tell him if by 9:00 you don't get your goal we will pay out. He has the money in the bag and knows it so whatever feeling he may have up to that point is clearly fake because he knows his money is there waiting.

I mean if they want him to loose viewers its probably the most effective means. Take out anything that makes Phil fun to watch and who will? I mean once he gets his money I rarely pay attention anymore fake anger is gone and he doesn't genuinely beg. What's the point?

I also want Phil to just take up challenge at face value. Just go on ahead without props, guides or anything. Go through with it, fail, learn from your mistake and overcome the challenge. But he will not do it. No matter what, he will always ask for help rather than sticking to read the chat for funny messages or encouragement, he deliberetly asks everyone for "how do to X".

And in this case i think it's out of habit. Both because of him constantly asking the chat and of his streaming schedule. His habit of asking people was probably the main thing, making him rely less and less on his already really low wits to overcome challenges in games. Now, rather than figuring things through trial and error he complains out loud so people hand him the answer in chat. And that paired with the "We only have 30 more minutes to beat this boss" only accentuates his need to rush through the game without taking his time to do anything other than beating it on the first try, which is fucking ridiculous. And i think it's because he knows that if he doesn't put out new content before others do, he will not get his money. Even knowing that he has such a niche audience that it will not even matter much.

I truly want Phil to do some stuff for himself rather than relying on chat. And tbh, i kinda root for him sometimes when he gets his ass beat. But his incapability to have fun with the game even if he fucks up and his need to rush just ruin it all.

I think I said it in the main thread but if Davenport played something like Baldur's Gate he wouldn't know how to even make a fighter-class character so he'd make a shitty character with 13 in every stat and then wonder why his character fucking sucks, can't hit anything and dies to a stiff wind.

I mean, even if piss easy to build Dark Souls or Nioh he spreaded his stats so much his character was virtually useless in every front. I don't know how the fuck he manages to always make it that way in every single action RPG.

Also, if he plays WRPG will he play Neverwinter Nights? Because then he would get anhialated, i bet it.

@Malagor the dank omen People will watch, but it also doesn't embarrass him nearly as much as a lot of old games because the chat can help him to an extent.

The thing I would most like him to do is either tackle the notoriously difficult games of yesteryear like the original Ninja Gaiden, or Ghosts amd Goblins. But he's not going to that era, ever. Nor will he stream any offline Street Fighter because it would expose his lies and he knows it.

I kinda know that people will watch him no matter what. The problem is that Phil thinks people will not watch him and that will deter him from playing certain games or maybe going back to some. How much i would love that he would play again Nioh 1 or just play Nioh 2 DLC. Hell not even that much, wish he played Drakengard 1.

Also, he already played the first Ninja Gaiden. He ragequitted on infamous jump of certain death in the last level. He did pretty good and at that point, i wouldn't even blame it on him because that section is cheap as all hell.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Phil does do it out of habit, but his habit of not rising to meet a challenge is life long, and permeates a lot more than just his gaming.

 

[OverlySensitive]

And i think it's because he knows that if he doesn't put out new content before others do, he will not get his money

Only thing I disagree with. He has the money in the bag to the point whoever his dedicated payee(s) may be he is getting his money by 9:00 regardless of the game he plays. A while ago this premise seems to have been set upon, why I do not know, but shortly after I started letting Phil play around me it became noticeable, by his blatant telling, that he knows he is getting money by a certain timeframe from someone.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Only thing I disagree with. He has the money in the bag to the point whoever his dedicated payee(s) may be he is getting his money by 9:00 regardless of the game he plays. A while ago this premise seems to have been set upon, why I do not know, but shortly after I started letting Phil play around me it became noticeable, by his blatant telling, that he knows he is getting money by a certain timeframe from someone.

Interesting... Because every once in a while he will bitch about "Need to put some new content if i want to make it" or the typical "I don't want to grind because that will be wasted time for you". But if he knows it it just makes it worse than it already is. I guess he has to pull an act for it if he doesn't want it to be that obvious.

Anyways, back on topic. I know he will never play Kenshi, but a man can dream. It would be even better if he played it without the streamchat. Or if he did a Sekiro redemtion run soon. Oh, that would be nice.