What game do you wish Phil would play? - AKA best future TIHYDP material?

Interesting... Because every once in a while he will bitch about "Need to put some new content if i want to make it" or the typical "I don't want to grind because that will be wasted time for you". But if he knows it it just makes it worse than it already is. I guess he has to pull an act for it if he doesn't want it to be that obvious.
I think that's more for the non guaranteed tips I think whatever the agreement is it includes "If you don't make the tips goal I will cover what the remainder is" or something akin to that...

I rarely stick to on topic but I do like @JamalActimel 's suggestion I just know Phil will play absolutely no game like that. Its a legit puzzle game and Phil cant get through Bugsnax. Those games seem to be on his auto ignore list as well sadly though watching him try to fumble through on his own would be funny. The calls for help would be every second.
 
I mean, even if piss easy to build Dark Souls or Nioh he spreaded his stats so much his character was virtually useless in every front. I don't know how the fuck he manages to always make it that way in every single action RPG.
Yup, I mean he has played Nioh 1, he should know that in NG you first want an even spread of stats to 10, then just go nuts on the primary stat of your main weapon, and every once in a while put points into magic and dex until you get to either 25 or 30 for both (forgot what the cap is that gets you to the max attunement points for ninjutsu and onmyo magic respectively). The only other ones you should care about are Stamina in case you want to wear heavier armor and finally the stats you need in case you want to wear a specific armor set, but even then for the last one I mentioned you'd only spend like 5 level ups on that at most. And since he used the Switchglaive which scales most off of magic that would've meant that he'd theoretically waste less level ups on magic since it would be one of his main stats, making the retarded level up scheme he had in his playthrough even worse.
Also, if he plays WRPG will he play Neverwinter Nights? Because then he would get anhialated, i bet it.
For sure. In the D&D based WRPGs once you make a character you're basically stuck with those stats for the entire game, there are quests that give you permanent boosts to stats, but as you may imagine they're very few and usually involve either really difficult or really long sidequests.
 
I think that's more for the non guaranteed tips I think whatever the agreement is it includes "If you don't make the tips goal I will cover what the remainder is" or something akin to that...

I rarely stick to on topic but I do like @JamalActimel 's suggestion I just know Phil will play absolutely no game like that. Its a legit puzzle game and Phil cant get through Bugsnax. Those games seem to be on his auto ignore list as well sadly though watching him try to fumble through on his own would be funny. The calls for help would be every second.
Woah, what a shitbag. But then again, how else would he earn money. As much as we might not like it, he's one of the most successful youtubers to date.

Puzzle games would be also the bane of his existance. I remember when he played Catherine in PS3 and he did so absolutely terrible in it and i will admit Catherin is quite hard the first time you play. But again, he did terribly bad. Also, isn't supposed Bugsnax to be a game for kids or something? I think the rage cycle would repeat if he played it. You could also add Virtue's Last Reward or DanganRonpa, at which he will inevitably suck (since he did terribly bad at Phoenix Wright).
Yup, I mean he has played Nioh 1, he should know that in NG you first want an even spread of stats to 10, then just go nuts on the primary stat of your main weapon, and every once in a while put points into magic and dex until you get to either 25 or 30 for both (forgot what the cap is that gets you to the max attunement points for ninjutsu and onmyo magic respectively). The only other ones you should care about are Stamina in case you want to wear heavier armor and finally the stats you need in case you want to wear a specific armor set, but even then for the last one I mentioned you'd only spend like 5 level ups on that at most. And since he used the Switchglaive which scales most off of magic that would've meant that he'd theoretically waste less level ups on magic since it would be one of his main stats, making the retarded level up scheme he had in his playthrough even worse.
It's as you say, the first 30 levels you spread your stats and then you commit to your main depending on your build. That's why Phil should have started always with Spear and Sword (for extra health and ki) and then do whatever he wanted depending on which weapon he wants, since Nioh is surprisingly flexible when it comes to building your character, giving you multiple resets. I even remember when he was suggested to change his build when he fought Date Shigezane (nonetheless, he's an absulote beast) and he cried about "I don't want to change my character".

But in Nioh 2, it's pretty fucking horrible, mainly because his build is the weirdest and most fucked up thing i've seen. Him leveling up his magic past 30 is bad enough already (since the attunment cap is 30), but also him having so little in Ki and health. That combined with the fact that he didn't upgraded his armor or weapons at the smith (remember, you can increase weapon stat scaling and defense on armor. This helps a lot when you don't want to commit to magic yet want to use a switchglaive) makes it all worse. This combined with his astounding rejection of grinding in Nioh is a good way of screwing yourself to the point that even Sloth will not be able to save him.

Btw, these days i played the last DLC of Nioh 2 and i gotta say with absolute confidence that if Phil somehow manages to beat Yoshitsune and the Eight gods of Lightning, he won't be able to defeat the Nightmare Incarnate, which is an extremely powered up and beefed up version of Otakemaru. And if that's not enough, in the last mission you have to defeat the legendary 4 demons which can qualify as bosses in their own right due to how brutal they are.
For sure. In the D&D based WRPGs once you make a character you're basically stuck with those stats for the entire game, there are quests that give you permanent boosts to stats, but as you may imagine they're very few and usually involve either really difficult or really long sidequests.
I also did that in my first run in Neverwinter Nights and i fucked myself up so hard i had to restart. No fucking joke on it.
in WRPGs planning on allocating stats is terribly important in order to manage to perform well in the lategame, and knowing how Phil is, he would fuck himself so damn hard in the long run and he wouldn't even know how he did it. Like when he played New Vegas a second time and he didn't put points in Speech, cutting himself off from a lot of quests.
 
he won't be able to defeat the Nightmare Incarnate, which is an extremely powered up and beefed up version of Otakemaru.
I dunno, I personally found "First Form" Otakemaru, which for the others in the thread who don't know is the DLC version of Otakemaru that you fight as the first boss in the 3rd DLC, harder than both the "Final Form" Otakemaru, which is the final boss of the base game, as well as Nightmare Incarnate who is the final boss of the 3rd DLC. Nightmare Incarnate was in fact too easy for me, he does have "Fuck you, I win" bullshit crazy AoE moves just like his other forms but they only seem to hit right in front of him rather than all around him like his other forms, and with how much of a big, hulking, sluggish target he is it's pitifully easy to get to his side where he can't hit you at all. Then again mileage may vary, I said it before I use a Ki damage/purity build using Kusarigama for Yokai and Tonfa for human enemies, so I'm always point blank in front of my enemies and getting to their sides and back is ingrained in my playstyle since I use Kingo's set which along with extra Ki damage also gives a hefty bonus to damage when you hit someone in the back.

He would be a massive challenge for Phil tho, given his pussy, passive playstyle where he backs up all the time.
 
I dunno, I personally found "First Form" Otakemaru, which for the others in the thread who don't know is the DLC version of Otakemaru that you fight as the first boss in the 3rd DLC, harder than both the "Final Form" Otakemaru, which is the final boss of the base game, as well as Nightmare Incarnate who is the final boss of the 3rd DLC. Nightmare Incarnate was in fact too easy for me, he does have "Fuck you, I win" bullshit crazy AoE moves just like his other forms but they only seem to hit right in front of him rather than all around him like his other forms, and with how much of a big, hulking, sluggish target he is it's pitifully easy to get to his side where he can't hit you at all. Then again mileage may vary, I said it before I use a Ki damage/purity build using Kusarigama for Yokai and Tonfa for human enemies, so I'm always point blank in front of my enemies and getting to their sides and back is ingrained in my playstyle since I use Kingo's set which along with extra Ki damage also gives a hefty bonus to damage when you hit someone in the back.

He would be a massive challenge for Phil tho, given his pussy, passive playstyle where he backs up all the time.
I also managed to beat it first try, but i gotta admit he got me against the ropes a few times, even using Daio-jin's sake (amazing item. A pity Phil never bothers with consumables outside of healing items). But for the DLC, as usual, i switched my build for a heavyweight tanking build using Firefly blade for yokai and Demon Axe for humans. That and using Bishamonten's grace + Tatenashi means i'm extremely hard to take down and i can essentially poise tank through all but the most brutal attacks and not take craploads of damage in the process. Maybe the fact that i was heavy was the main crux of my problem against Nightmare Incarnate, but then again, he's a pretty damn tough boss. And the fact that when you fight Otakemaru in his final form from the get go in the beginning of the DLC tells you what you're in for.

I also think that he would get quite pissy at Tate Eboshi, because even if it's really not that hard as a boss, it punishes passive playstyle extremely hard.
 
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@Malagor the dank omen I refuse to watch anything he has done in regards to Catherine.
I enjoyed the game a lot.
I'm not sure how mind melting it was to watch him play it in real time but I imagine it was probably one of his most time consuming playthroughs with the menu stall to demand to be told what to do every three seconds.

He has 85 videos at approximately fifteen minutes a piece...... that's twenty one and a quarter hours of Haaaallllllllllppppppp I don't even think a TIHYDP could make better.


And you know I'd like to see him play some games that I did as a kid. He thinks he is some twat king of retro but never played Space Harrier, Contra, Golden Axe or Space Invaders? Come on Phil those should be in your gaming resume.
 
I think making super mario maker 2 levels would be a "perfect" chill stream idea for phil. I saw his created level in mm1 and it is the shittiest hot garbage, anyone who watches other smm2 streamers will know what I mean.
 
I miss watching Phil play racing games.

They do shine a light on how incompetent Phil is to a greater degree than anything else does, because racing games are so simple, yet they whoop his ass harder than anything else does. I mean even when he plays a cartoony racing game like the Crash Bandicoot one, where he doesn't have rocks to slam head-on into, he STILL sucks at it.

Seriously, anyone who has an inkling that Phil has ANY modicum of intuition with video games should watch him play both a serious racing game like Gran Turismo or Need For Speed, and then one of the kiddy variety like Crash. You will see just how much Phil does not comprehend how to play video games on his own. If you can't figure out a racing game, you don't belong near a controller. Period.
 
Which is a variation on his often-uttered phrase "How am I supposed to know this?" that is in every playthrough. FFS, he even does it when the chat is spoon-feeding him information. "Dodge? How do I do that? How am I supposed to know to do that? This game sucks!"

Phil lives the same day, every day, on purpose. He's fucking crazy.
 
Which is a variation on his often-uttered phrase "How am I supposed to know this?" that is in every playthrough. FFS, he even does it when the chat is spoon-feeding him information. "Dodge? How do I do that? How am I supposed to know to do that? This game sucks!"

Phil lives the same day, every day, on purpose. He's fucking crazy.
"Cahm ahn dude, how was I supposed to know I'd shit myself if I didn't take off my pants!"

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Not that he ever would of course, but one of the Formula 1 games. I was playing this morning and doing pretty well, but a weather change ended in me having to make an extra pit stop, and losing several places, so could just imagine the salt that would produce. We all know how notoriously bad he is at racing games, so imagine him trying something where:

- you actually need a race strategy with tyres, pit stops, fuel load etc and listen to your engineer
- trying to push past opponents or cut corners will see you get a time penalty or disqualified
- have to plan overtakes carefully and often follow someone for a whole lap before you get an opportunity
- drive something with massive downforce so will handle completely differently to NFS, Forza etc
 
Aside from having no motivation to apply himself, Phil completely lacks the adaptation necessary for such a game. It's why he sucks at Street Fighter, after all. He hates change so much that even a positive one registers as being a negative.

But of course what really makes him what he is, is found within his insistence on lying. I know people who play the same unchanging games every day, but they're not making a living streaming, pretending to be something they're not. They can still adapt. Phil won't, and would rather bullshit and be a lolcow than just give it up and get a regular job. He would rather "win" than live a healthier life.
 
Not that he ever would of course, but one of the Formula 1 games. I was playing this morning and doing pretty well, but a weather change ended in me having to make an extra pit stop, and losing several places, so could just imagine the salt that would produce. We all know how notoriously bad he is at racing games, so imagine him trying something where:

- you actually need a race strategy with tyres, pit stops, fuel load etc and listen to your engineer
- trying to push past opponents or cut corners will see you get a time penalty or disqualified
- have to plan overtakes carefully and often follow someone for a whole lap before you get an opportunity
- drive something with massive downforce so will handle completely differently to NFS, Forza etc
My choice would be Gran Turismo, for all the reasons you said. Or, heaven forbid, a PC sim racer like iRacer or something.

Also, you know he wouldn't get any steering wheel and just play with the controller which would further hurt his efforts.
 
StarCraft Brood War, simply for the last four Zerg missions + bonus mission which are immune to his strategy of "stall then win by attrition": The Protoss production facilities in Mission 7 are basically invincible, there are not enough resources to go around in Mission 8, there is a time limit in Mission 9, and the three enemy armies each start with huge bases and need different strategies to defeat in Mission 10. I think Phil would also struggle with the bonus mission due to the unusual starting units (Zeratul plus a half-dozen Dark Archons) and probably would not understand the plot at all because it's told through skippable research logs rather than spoonfed.

The predeployed Terran and Protoss missions might also give us some salt - they are doable with a guide but if you misposition your units at all they will get sniped by missile turrets or siege tanks.

Other possibilities: Diablo II because RNG and the difficulty spike in Nightmare mode make it hard even with a guide, Final Fantasy III DS for the final dungeon, and Final Fantasy II because he'd hate the EXP system (to be fair these last two are genuinely miserable, not just for people who are inept at games).
 
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