Trashfire Apollo Legend suicide

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In his first Dream video, DVAU claims to be one of the “fortunate few” who makes “hundreds of thousands of dollars” for his “content”. I’ll provide time stamps once I get in front of a computer but lmfao, 500 dollars after claiming to make “hundreds of thousands”? Fuck off, faggot.
 
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Looney Troons said:
In his first Dream video, DVAU claims to be one of the “fortunate few” who makes “hundreds of thousands of dollars” for his “content”. I’ll provide time stamps once I get in front of a computer but lmfao, 500 dollars after claiming to make “hundreds of thousands”? Fuck off, faggot.
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Maybe he’s referring to Australian Monopoly money
 
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Fuck man 2020 has got to be the worst year so far. And right before new year as well. I guess this downward spiral is going to continue. Apollo to me was likeable and I did enjoy his videos. But I never even figured this would happen.
 
nohm said:
That's not what happened.

People had been skeptical of Billy Mitchell's purported record setting Donkey Kong scores for a long time. His sketchy videotaped performance was featured in the The King of Kong documentary, which came out in 2007. It wasn't until 2018 that definitive proof that he had played on an emulator was uncovered. (There are a few frames which draw differently on MAME) A dispute was submitted to Twin Galaxies and following a lengthy, public investigation, they removed all of his scores.

Apollo Legend made several videos about the evidence that was presented and they received millions of views. Billy Mitchell sued him, Twin Galaxies, the guy on the donkeykongforum who figured out that Billy's videotaped game play was done on MAME, and most recently YouTuber Karl Jobst. Guinness World Records was probably threatened with litigation as well given that they reinstated his scores and issued a retraction. Billy Mitchell is just a litigious cheater. Apollo Legend "messing" with Billy amounts to him going to see Billy at one of his public appearances while comically dressed as Billy.

After getting sued, Apollo had the idea of countersuing Billy for defamation and was told it would cost $10,000 at most. He opened a GoFundMe and started raising funds. Within a day or two, he got a second opinion from Twin Galaxies' lawyer, who told him he had gotten bad advice. Apollo cancelled the GoFundMe and said he would issue refunds. That didn't happen for months, and Apollo went silent during this time, but the donors were eventually refunded.

Apollo didn't get fucked over by anyone except Billy. Settling was probably in his best intrest in all honesty considering Twin Galaxies lost their anti-slapp motion to dismiss. The cost to Twin Galaxies to defend against Billy's lawsuit is massive. They requested that Billy post a bond of $80,000 just to pay for some depositions. Their legal fees could be upwards of a quarter million dollars or more. All because they said Billy's gameplay was not from an arcade cabinet.

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In fairness here, Apollo fucked himself over with Billy. Anti-Slapp would work against Billy with the videos he made. But Apollo followed his autism and basically dressed himself as Billy and went and met him in person. Any competent lawyer can point out that Apollo have malice in making those videos and basically harrasing Billy. That's most likely why Apollo settled. He will lose badly against the defamation with Billy.

That's why Karl Jobst haven't been sued yet by Billy despite making a similar videos against him.

All Apollo have to do was contain his autism and he didn't do that
 
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Nick Nock said:
Why are so many people unironically defending Apollo Legend over this? Dude's been a scummy asshat and stirring up drama for years, honestly I'm surprised he didn't have a thread on the Farms.

Here's a quick rundown:
  • His "Oceanside" scam

    Dude planned to organize a poor man's AGDQ called Oceanside after making a shitty video about GDQ being shady (he didn't even really call out any SJW shit). Then he didn't tell anybody about progress for months after announcing it having all the big runners. He cancelled the thing two fucking weeks in advance. Financing was done using crowdfunding (this will be a theme) which ended up receiving $20,000 of which (to my knowledge) $19,500 were then suddenly claimed to have been his own money all along. He did offer some refunds, but I've heard he just went ahead and reused some of the funds for the Billy Mitchell case as well.
    Shit was shady as fuck even if you give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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There were only a few people who donated to Oceanside and they were all refunded according to Goose. The rest was funded by Apollo himself ($19000 in total), and it was visible on the GoFundMe page. Keep in mind there was also the initial $1000 he put towards the fund to start it off. I think he may have decided to keep the money as a potential legal fund but there were also several other things that went wrong with Oceanside that Goose explains in this video. TL;DW mismanagement and also a rival event which made runners unable to attend.
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Refunds still did not happen for months and Apollo said nothing on the matter. This is where EZScape comes in, who posted a video to his secondary Youtube channel (with 60k subs compared to his main channel with 300k) on the situation and also collectively calling out Apollo for all the scummy shit he did over the years. After a few months, refunds finally happened and EZScape set the video to unlisted, while it still only peaked at about 300k views (Apollo's own call-out videos used to get millions of views).

  • using and wasting the Oceanside / lawsuit funds for Cryptocurrency investments,
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Nick Nock said:
  • Dude's been comically incompetent with business matters at best and straight-out has been scamming people for ~$40k at worst. There's really no reason to feel particularly sorry for him in this situation.
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Everything was refunded from both gofundmes, stop pulling shit out of your ass Andrea.
 
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FreyaDerp said:
I dont see Karl Jobst an-heroing anytime soon, though. He seems willing to fight against Billy Mitchell since Apollo got silenced.
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Karl boasts many "Did this person cheat" and other vids about potential cheating he is good buds with EZscape and the Australian dude. The cheat videos were when Apollo "retired".

At the end of the day they are all losers or assholes overall so who really gives a fuck.
 
Disheveled Human said:
Karl boasts many "Did this person cheat" and other vids about potential cheating he is good buds with EZscape and the Australian dude. The cheat videos were when Apollo "retired".

At the end of the day they are all losers or assholes overall so who really gives a fuck.
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Speedrun community as a whole are pretty much losers.

My phone wanted to say lovers, and honestly I don't see the difference. They feed off of eachother.
 
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Looney Troons said:
In his first Dream video, DVAU claims to be one of the “fortunate few” who makes “hundreds of thousands of dollars” for his “content”. I’ll provide time stamps once I get in front of a computer but lmfao, 500 dollars after claiming to make “hundreds of thousands”? Fuck off, faggot.
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It's always funny to see people whine that someone didn't donate more money when they bothered to donate at all. And then people wonder why more people don't donate money to things.

 
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AnOminous said:
Chronic pain probably had a lot more to do with it. That will fuck your mind up bigtime. It's probably the leading cause of suicide, at least that which isn't just pure craziness.
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Especially with his wording of those two other guys giving him the final push, straw that broke the camel's back one would say
 
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NarcissusRyuichi said:
There were only a few people who donated to Oceanside and they were all refunded according to Goose. The rest was funded by Apollo himself ($19000 in total), and it was visible on the GoFundMe page. Keep in mind there was also the initial $1000 he put towards the fund to start it off. I think he may have decided to keep the money as a potential legal fund but there were also several other things that went wrong with Oceanside that Goose explains in this video. TL;DW mismanagement and also a rival event which made runners unable to attend.
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As I said Narcissa, that doesn't make his behaviour any less scummy. Dude's been communicating almost nothing about this around the time. There's a reason goose had to make a video about it in the first place.

NarcissusRyuichi said:
Everything was refunded from both gofundmes, stop pulling shit out of your ass Andrea.
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Yes, after the video by EZScape he namedropped in his suicide note. Which in turn happened months after the lawsuit was dropped because Apollo kept completely silent about the money.

Dude's been a scummy manipulator, and it's got nothing to do with GDQ or him defending Goose. Stop making him into some Saint.
 
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