Culture The Bull Pit - Pitbull News Megathread - aka sperginity speds out agendaposting

https://www.cheknews.ca/pit-bull-attack-near-nanaimo-injures-two-children-and-one-woman-450395/

https://archive.ph/8jiC9

Two 8-month-old pit bulls that were loose in Nanaimo attacked several children, severely injuring at least one. Other people that came to aid the children were also injured.

The children were playing in a yard at the house of one of their friends. The dogs were from somewhere else in the neighborhood and had been cited for being at large previously.

One of the owners of the dogs came and got the dogs but did not stick around. The news interviewed the other owner, a Dangerhair that looked to be in her late 40s or early 50s. While she was devastated at what her dogs had done, she said to the reporter, "People are saying, look at this from the prospective of a parent, well, these dogs are my kids, too," and then she broke down crying.

It was later reported both dogs were euthanized, as there have been other incidents prior to this one, and due to the severity of the injuries the one particular child sustained.

To the dangerhair dog owner I would have to say, "If these dogs were your KIDS, you did a lousy job of raising them. Thank heavens you didn't spawn any of your own."

 

[Devyn]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/knns5y/please_read_harassmentstalking_of_sub_members_by/

TL;DR there seems to be a pibbie mom that goes out of her way to doxx people. Sad!

Wow, what an absolute cunt.

The entire concept of "hate speech" is utter bullshit IMO (it's really just a way to try legislate thought crimes), but it's especially odious when applied to animals.

What is "BSL" ? It keeps getting referenced in the Reddit post as something that terrifies pitnutters.

It stands for "Breed Specific Legislation", i.e. "dog racism" in the minds of pit bull lunatics.

 

[Ahriman]

She shows up on the thread to comment (as "Ruby_Tuesday3"):

She is, indeed, nuts.

 

[BobbyBriggs69420]

It stands for "Breed Specific Legislation", i.e. "dog racism" in the minds of pit bull lunatics.

If the law says a floofy boi's trip to the gas chamber is necessary following an attack that killed a toddler it probably counts as breed specific to them as it unfairly targets marginalized BOP. (breeds of playfulness)

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

If there's something to look forward to, there's been some efforts with ethical breeders (almost always disillusioned by groups like the AKC) in trying to undo the extremely crushed skull, and more potential owners are being educated by how much flat-faced breeds constantly suffer. They don't need to be destroyed since they're not demented, just deformed for human vanity. A few vets I've spoken with practice surgery that opens up the nostrils and palate and have said they're the only dogs who 'enjoy' the intubation tube because it's the first time in their lives they can breathe without struggling.

Also it's extremely easy issue to fix with some well thought mix breeding. If you look pug mixes they almost always have longer snouts so clearly overly flat face isn't hard to breed out. There are plenty of breeds that have longer snout so you can be picky with personality, coat type, size and hunting/pointing/barking/whatever trive to keep pugs good features unchanged. Flat face honestly isn't a reason to end the breed when fix can be achieved in few generations but we need a will and right now... Well there are people who really want that but it hasn't gotten to people who actually can change things on wilder scale. So enjoy this pug and beagle mix also know as puggle picture in meantime.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

r/banpitbulls

Every time a based subreddit is allowed to continue, an angel gets its wings.

If we have legislation regarding the keeping (or prohibiting) of exotic animals and hybrids, like wolfdogs and coydogs, then we should also be able to have legislation regarding certain domesticated dog breeds.

I didn't look at the article but I saw an A&N post about someone being mauled by five wolfdogs: funny how this is the only time in recent memory I've heard about a wolfdog (a literal cross between usually a shepherd or husky and a wolf) mauling. Granted there are far less true wolfdogs being kept as pets in North America than pits but based on genetics you would assume 99% of wolfdogs to be killers.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

She shows up on the thread to comment (as "Ruby_Tuesday3"):

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She is, indeed, nuts.

99.9% chance that she’s fucking her dog.

 

[AnOminous]

Granted there are far less true wolfdogs being kept as pets in North America than pits but based on genetics you would assume 99% of wolfdogs to be killers.

I wouldn't say that's necessarily true. Even wild wolves almost never attack humans, and unlike pitbulls, they're quite used to social hierarchies where you don't fuck with the alpha. If anything it's the dog part of the equation that's more dangerous. People still probably shouldn't keep these as pets, or breed them, for that matter.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I care a gun mostly everyday but especially when I'm walking my dogs. Just in case a pit mom wants to see her sweetheart get canoed.

 

[MysticMisty]

Also it's extremely easy issue to fix with some well thought mix breeding. If you look pug mixes they almost always have longer snouts so clearly overly flat face isn't hard to breed out. There are plenty of breeds that have longer snout so you can be picky with personality, coat type, size and hunting/pointing/barking/whatever trive to keep pugs good features unchanged. Flat face honestly isn't a reason to end the breed when fix can be achieved in few generations but we need a will and right now... Well there are people who really want that but it hasn't gotten to people who actually can change things on wilder scale. So enjoy this pug and beagle mix also know as puggle picture in meantime.
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The problem though is that people don't want a better breed of anything, they want that exact breed as it is. Especially since people pick dogs based on looks and not personalities, health problems, or exercise requirements. A lot of violent breeds are popular in terms of appearance, would possibly deny that something they think is so cute could really be dangerous, and then wind up in a situation where someone (or someone's pet) gets bitten.

Pits are a million times worse for this though because of how bad their bites are, their killer instincts aren't easily breed out, and because shelters are extremely irresponsible with known violent dogs, even ones suspected or known as former dog-fighters. Some pits really are sweet and loving, just ugly looking. And many others are sweet and loving until they decide to eat someone. The fact that they do so at such a significantly higher rate than any other breed means that they must be no longer allowed to exist and sunsetted out as quickly as possible. But it's not happening because we still have illegal dog fighting rings, and way too many people who think that there's nothing wrong at all with a breed that was originally created for the disgusting purpose of killing bulls for man's pleasure.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

The problem though is that people don't want a better breed of anything, they want that exact breed as it is. Especially since people pick dogs based on looks and not personalities, health problems, or exercise requirements. A lot of violent breeds are popular in terms of appearance, would possibly deny that something they think is so cute could really be dangerous, and then wind up in a situation where someone (or someone's pet) gets bitten.

Pits are a million times worse for this though because of how bad their bites are, their killer instincts aren't easily breed out, and because shelters are extremely irresponsible with known violent dogs, even ones suspected or known as former dog-fighters. Some pits really are sweet and loving, just ugly looking. And many others are sweet and loving until they decide to eat someone. The fact that they do so at such a significantly higher rate than any other breed means that they must be no longer allowed to exist and sunsetted out as quickly as possible. But it's not happening because we still have illegal dog fighting rings, and way too many people who think that there's nothing wrong at all with a breed that was originally created for the disgusting purpose of killing bulls for man's pleasure.

People do want healthy and good natured dogs that fit in their lifestyle but have been increasingly naive about nature vs nurture and you can't judge book by it's cover things. I think this problem is arriving from good enough place, namely people don't want to be mean or jump in conclusions by surface traits, but it's still large part why we have issues around many dog breeds. It's very easy to fall into this thinking as many people haven't had really worry about safety around animals or deal with animals over multiple generations in same line to see how traits get passed on. Sometimes they haven't had much contact to animals outside entertainment or short meetings of pets of others, so have absolutely no realistic idea of animal attributes, let alone heritage vs history vs current environment. Also it feels good to think that anyone can be anything and that we are all the same regardless of circumstances of our birth, but unfortunately DNA and other natural factors do matter alot how someone animal or human turns out. Combine that with mantra of adopt don't shop and aww and oooh factors and little bit of natzis wanted breed the superior race, and you get where we are now. Many people not willing to invest in properly breeding dogs for the better health and personality. Not everyone, there are plenty of actually responsible breeders, actists for better breeding standards and informationed dog owners, but still enough to keep the current culture going.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I wouldn't say that's necessarily true. Even wild wolves almost never attack humans, and unlike pitbulls, they're quite used to social hierarchies where you don't fuck with the alpha. If anything it's the dog part of the equation that's more dangerous. People still probably shouldn't keep these as pets, or breed them, for that matter.

Yes I know, I was just using the general belief of wolves being evil death machines.

My neighbor actually has a real one (not sure where she got it) and I was astonished at its behavior. It is really wimpy. When I jog or walk by (it knows me from pet sitting) it makes really weird whimper-chirp (almost laughing) sounds and acts like it is scared of me.

Once again: crazy that dogs descended directly from wild animals are apparently less likely to kill than "domestic" pits.

 

[TinyKitty]

What's really weird to me is that often the same people who will (correctly) lecture someone for wanting to keep a working breed like a border collie in a small apartment with no exercise or mental challenges will tell the same person that it doesn't matter what pitbulls were bred to do for hundreds of years, it's all in how you raise them.

 

[melty]

What's really weird to me is that often the same people who will (correctly) lecture someone for wanting to keep a working breed like a border collie in a small apartment with no exercise or mental challenges will tell the same person that it doesn't matter what pitbulls were bred to do for hundreds of years, it's all in how you raise them.

Maybe that's the solution to all this. Any time someone makes a dog breed specific comment just say it's how you raise them. Collies don't need exercise, it's all about how you raise them. Pugs don't have breathing problems, it's all about how you raise them.
Unfortunately some people would probably take this unironically.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I spent my morning with coffee and browsing the r/banpitbulls subreddit. The memes are amazing and I enjoyed every bit of it. The doublethink among pitnutters is worse than I remembered.

Maybe that's the solution to all this. Any time someone makes a dog breed specific comment just say it's how you raise them. Collies don't need exercise, it's all about how you raise them. Pugs don't have breathing problems, it's all about how you raise them.
Unfortunately some people would probably take this unironically.

Greyhounds don't need to have running time, it's all about how you raise them.

My favorite pitnutter rhetoric is "muh chihuahua."

 

[Enyo]

A tragedy told in three acts if you look at her posts from bottom to top:

Spoiler: "He's amazing!"

 

[Devyn]

A tragedy told in three acts if you look at her posts from bottom to top:

Spoiler: "He's amazing!"

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"It does not even feel real"

She must have been in complete shock, because even though I watched that clip after having read the Facebook posts it still caught me off guard when she mentioned funeral arrangements. That poor little boy

"What happened today happened so fast that there was nothing anybody could do"

Witnesses always say "he just snapped!" Supervising these animals won't do jack shit if they decide to attack anyway. Better pray you have a gun on you (or at least a break stick)

Also, we're always told "it's how you raise them!". Even if this were true (it's not) wouldn't that mean you're definitely being reckless to just adopt/care for a random grown pit someone dumped on your property? If you don't know the background, surely that means it could have been raised very very wrong? Why risk it?

 

[ExsanguinateHorizon]

My favorite pitnutter rhetoric is "muh chihuahua."

It's ignorant. It's like saying you should brake check a semi because the kid-sized toy cars can't do anything serious to you. The worst a chihuahua might do is punch a hole or two in your finger, but good luck with a pit latched onto your face.

 

[Product Placement]

That poor kid, what a horrifying way to die. If the truth about pitbulls was told, this wouldn't have happened, this was such an avoidable death which makes it even sadder,

 

[Enyo]

"It does not even feel real"

She must have been in complete shock, because even though I watched that clip after having read the Facebook posts it still caught me off guard when she mentioned funeral arrangements. That poor little boy

"What happened today happened so fast that there was nothing anybody could do"

The worst part is inevitably pit advocates, she admits she was/is one herself and has probably said as much as herself, are going to rush to defend the dog. "tHeY dON't AttACK 4 n0 reAsON" and then theorize they don't have the full story, and the six year old did something to the dog where the dogs response to kill him was proportional, like look at it the wrong way or breathe too loudly. I'd laugh it was her it happened to, but the kid was innocent. Fodder she offered up to prove a point, and now the ultimate price has been paid.

 

[Salt_Merchant]

sigh,

again i defer to my rule of never owning an animal i couldnt kick the shit out of if it ever tried to kill me.

We literally know how certain dog breeds attack, breeds like border collies (who arent known for murdering small children) tend to repeatedly bite down (which would hurt like fuck and mess yoru hand up, but is unlikely to result in yours or yourloved ones deaths) rather than doing what pit bulls do where they clamp on and shake their head back and forward.

the kid would have been what 19-20kgs at 6? theres a decent chance the fuggin dog weighed more than that and threw this kid around like a toy while it murdered him.