Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

Did you think this was an amazing own? That's already the basic male insult . Ugly-woman-who-can't-get-a-man vs dirty slut depending on what's convenient. Imagine being so disconnected from reality that this is news to you.
My point, which apparently requires further elaboration, is that calling people names and shaming them because you think they are having too much sex or not enough sex should not be acceptable regardless of gender. "Slut" is actually not a word I use commonly because I genuinely do not think we should be insulting people on this basis. But I used it here to make the comparison between using "virgin" as an insult, and using "slut" as one. If you are a woman who doesn't like to be called the latter, you shouldn't go around calling men the former.

Also, if it's not clear, nobody in this thread has self-identified as a MGTOW. I personally would actively reject the label. I do find some of their concerns legitimate, though, even though I find others completely bonkers. The comparison to white nationalists is again apt.
 
My point, which apparently requires further elaboration, is that calling people names and shaming them because you think they are having too much sex or not enough sex should not be acceptable regardless of gender. "Slut" is actually not a word I use commonly because I genuinely do not think we should be insulting people on this basis. But I used it here to make the comparison between using "virgin" as an insult, and using "slut" as one. If you are a woman who doesn't like to be called the latter, you shouldn't go around calling men the former.

Also, if it's not clear, nobody in this thread has self-identified as a MGTOW. I personally would actively reject the label. I do find some of their concerns legitimate, though, even though I find others completely bonkers. The comparison to white nationalists is again apt.
Ok virgin.
 
What is the ultimate goal of the MGTOW movement?What is their endgame?Build a 'malestate' the male version of the white nationalist ethnostate?A place where men can hang out together and do stuff together without women bothering them?I never really got what their ultimate goals are beyond 'don't deal with women'.If that is the ultimate goal then I don't see such a movement lasting for too long.
 
What is the ultimate goal of the MGTOW movement?What is their endgame?Build a 'malestate' the male version of the white nationalist ethnostate?A place where men can hang out together and do stuff together without women bothering them?I never really got what their ultimate goals are beyond 'don't deal with women'.If that is the ultimate goal then I don't see such a movement lasting for too long.

Its lasted this long on this basis, so why wouldn't it last longer. Hell, radical feminism has lasted decades just on blaming men for all of women's problems. And the actual point of the movement is pretty self-explanatory: encouraging men to seek self-improvement and self-care, over adhering to, what they see, as a gynocentric model and worldview that only benefits women. Now, individual MGTOW may have their own individual ideas regarding these things. Like most nebulous movements, different people may have different ideas and goals. Some MGTOW are less strident in their beliefs and don't necessarily oppose a man getting married, for example, as long as he is aware of what he's getting into and educates himself on the laws as they are, so they focus on just keeping men informed of the legal and social situation. Then you got guys like TFM who see all women as whores and basically call for segregation of the sexes.
 
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I am still not going to have sex with you. Go your own way!
Don't worry. I wouldn't have sex with you even if you held me at gunpoint to do so. Also if you want the MGTOW to "Go their own way!", why are you even bothering to comment on this thread if you knew they'd be here?
What is the ultimate goal of the MGTOW movement?What is their endgame?Build a 'malestate' the male version of the white nationalist ethnostate?A place where men can hang out together and do stuff together without women bothering them?I never really got what their ultimate goals are beyond 'don't deal with women'.If that is the ultimate goal then I don't see such a movement lasting for too long.
We must secure an existence for our people, and a future for male children.
 
Don't worry. I wouldn't have sex with you even if you held me at gunpoint to do so. Also if you want the MGTOW to "Go their own way!", why are you even bothering to comment on this thread if you knew they'd be here?

We must secure an existence for our people, and a future for male children.

Men don't grow, birth, breastfeed or usually do the lions' share of the childcare. Women do. Women have been doing it for thousands of years, like virtually every species on this planet, without a single complaint from men until thirty years ago when mentally unstable White misogynists took issue with it. No other racial group devalued and hate campaigned against mothers or attempted to erase them like White men have been doing.

I have no problem with misogynists "going their own way" because they're worthless and irrelevant, and they scapegoat women and girls for their failings, sexual or otherwise. What I don't understand is why they constantly engage with women on the internet?

You say you're going your own way then please do. You won't be missed.

Its lasted this long on this basis, so why wouldn't it last longer. Hell, radical feminism has lasted decades just on blaming men for all of women's problems. And the actual point of the movement is pretty self-explanatory: encouraging men to seek self-improvement and self-care, over adhering to, what they see, as a gynocentric model and worldview that only benefits women. Now, individual MGTOW may have their own individual ideas regarding these things. Like most nebulous movements, different people may have different ideas and goals. Some MGTOW are less strident in their beliefs and don't necessarily oppose a man getting married, for example, as long as he is aware of what he's getting into and educates himself on the laws as they are, so they focus on just keeping men informed of the legal and social situation. Then you got guys like TFM who see all women as whores and basically call for segregation of the sexes.
This is a good example of why most MGTOW are mentally unstable morons. Women have very little if any rights in the third world. Women in the first world only started getting rights in the last century and it varies greatly from country to country.

Women having the right to an education, to marry whom they choose as an adult, the right to vote, work, own property and the right to fight for custody of the children they grew, birthed, breastfed and raised is not, in any way, oppressive to men.

Ask yourselves this why are the overwhelming majority of online misogynists White? Why are the majority of gays, troons and political extremists White?

Conquer and divide.
 
Men don't grow, birth, breastfeed or usually do the lions' share of the childcare. Women do.
I know families personally where the mother works and the father takes care of the children and the house. The rigid sex roles you'd like to enforce have little to no value.
Women have been doing it for thousands of years, like virtually every species on this planet, without a single complaint from men until thirty years ago when mentally unstable White misogynists took issue with it. No other racial group devalued and hate campaigned against mothers or attempted to erase them like White men have been doing.
Good god. Here I thought my life was rid of feminazis ever since I got permabanned from IrrationalWiki. There's plenty of evidence that there's sex discrimination in the legal system, family courts, and in the work place biased in women's favor against men by default. I've gotten tired of pointing it out, particularly to forgettable anons. Besided, I was born in the 90's. I was physically unable to complain about it 30 years ago.
I have no problem with misogynists "going their own way" because they're worthless and irrelevant
So why are you commenting about it? We have laws against forced marriage in this country because there are people that try to force others to marry people against their will. Marriage by abduction soars in Bihar, over 3,000 grooms tied knot at gunpoint in 2016 - Mail Today News (indiatoday.in)
and they scapegoat women and girls for their failings, sexual or otherwise. What I don't understand is why they constantly engage with women on the internet?
Has it ever occurred to you that women and girls can do wrong? Also there are no women on the internet; just guys and traps.
You say you're going your own way then please do. You won't be missed.
Already doing that, so where's the problem? Granted I consider myself to be more of an MRA, because whenever I get the chance I do try and sway politicians to see things my way as opposed to sitting on my ass and doing nothing about the problem. If I was the one who christened MGTOW, I wouldn't have named it after a manifesto that reeks of "muh traditional sex roles" that sounds like the title of a homosexual B-grade 80's porno.
 
Let’s get this thread back on track with this Reddit Meme I found:
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I think the big issue with this thread is it's made to laugh at what whiny faggots MGTOW are, and yet a bunch of MGTOW showed up to be whiny faggots and...prove to us they're somehow not whiny faggots?

Then you whiny feminist asshats showed up and started shitting up the thread for no goddamn reason, while complaining about a thread you don't have the presence of mind to just walk away from.
 
Look men's rights issues are important and worthy of discussion but this thread is for the dudes "going their own way" that can't stop bitching about women for 2 fucking seconds. Why should I have to step out of the thread I follow to laugh at because spergs wanna have a serious discussion? Stop being faggots or be more entertaining in your faggotry.
 
What is the ultimate goal of the MGTOW movement?What is their endgame?Build a 'malestate' the male version of the white nationalist ethnostate?A place where men can hang out together and do stuff together without women bothering them?I never really got what their ultimate goals are beyond 'don't deal with women'.If that is the ultimate goal then I don't see such a movement lasting for too long.
As I understood it, MGTOW at its purest isn't supposed to be a movement, but a coping mechanism. Think of it as the western equivalent of the Japanese herbivore men phenomenon. Why men would walk away from marriage or dating in general varies on an individual basis ranging from personal negative experience to preferring to learn from other men's mistakes rather than their own. With family courts, alimony and child support as they are and men becoming more and more socially "obsolete" as their traditional role as the protector and provider of women and children is increasingly usurped by the state, I can't shit too much on men who think of marriage as a game of Russian roulette or that they perceive that society at large is apathetic towards them all things concidered.

The closest thing to a "goal" they have is - as I understood - to outlast the current system until it collapses.
 
Look men's rights issues are important and worthy of discussion but this thread is for the dudes "going their own way" that can't stop bitching about women for 2 fucking seconds. Why should I have to step out of the thread I follow to laugh at because spergs wanna have a serious discussion? Stop being faggots or be more entertaining in your faggotry.

I mean, we are still talking about guys like TFM. But a thread about the movement is of course going to discuss what the movement itself believes and whether or not it has any merit.
 
I think the big issue with this thread is it's made to laugh at what whiny faggots MGTOW are, and yet a bunch of MGTOW showed up to be whiny faggots and...prove to us they're somehow not whiny faggots?
If you want to do that, go ahead there could be plenty of angry men who wear the MGTOW symbol and spout shit. But to generalize the whole philosophy as bad, and you just looks like a retard doing it.


On another but similar note, whatever happened to "Misandry Today" I remember him being part of TFM's show and then he betrayed him for some reason, I recall a bit of drama around that ordeal and I know many men hated him for that.
 
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If men want to "go their own way" then let them. Problem is, they're not, they're just sitting around bitching about women. Go your own way!

To act like men, who have been in charge of the planet since day 1, are now somehow marginalized is bananas. And you are right about the last bit. It says that I anticipate I will and have had sex, rather than have to swim in the knowledge it'll never happen.,
Oh look a chick complaining that men aren't changing the world and fixing everything fast enough. Imagine a bunch of men trying to fuck off and do their own thing and there's still women gloming onto the outskirts trying to chime in.
 
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