Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Maulding Orchard Asks People To Stop Using Their Brains.
She also has PTSD
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Notice that Lily's TL was short, repeated an old story, all Lily's posts are interspersed with commiseration on how Lizzy is literally satan, and she left it vague. Contrast with Lizzy's, which is detailed and doesn't when in context look like a targeted smear campaign. :thinking:
 
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This really shows how paranoid/crazy Lily sounds when she's not 100% in control of a public conversation. When she answers tumblr asks all she has to do is sound angry and say a shitty quip and then that's the end of it if she doesn't feel like responding again. Twitters different though and every answer Lily left reads as her acting like a cartoon villain who's rapidly loosing rapport amongst her brainless henchmen. The person she's responding to is so calm and the questions they're asking are 100% backed up by Lizzy's actual actions, thus backing Lily into the corner of only being able to claim phycological damages that Lizzy can't be provably held accountable for.
 
This really shows how paranoid/crazy Lily sounds when she's not 100% in control of a public conversation. When she answers tumblr asks all she has to do is sound angry and say a shitty quip and then that's the end of it if she doesn't feel like responding again. Twitters different though and every answer Lily left reads as her acting like a cartoon villain who's rapidly loosing rapport amongst her brainless henchmen. The person she's responding to is so calm and the questions they're asking are 100% backed up by Lizzy's actual actions, thus backing Lily into the corner of only being able to claim phycological damages that Lizzy can't be provably held accountable for.
And since Lizzy is probably the only person to really fuck up Peets "career." Yeah it makes since he's freaking the fuck out.
 
"She's slandering my name. I won't take that quietly."

Oh, so she has been slandering your name on the past two years now? Is that why you haven't stopped talking since the breakup and why she hasn't actually name you until less than a month ago, after being harassed by your doormat and fucktoy and ran off out of Tumblr, where she publicly defended your right to say whatever you want while she said nothing for herself?

Meanwhile, Lizzy has been mostly talking about current events and responding to other people bringing out Liliana. Still hasn't even said her name.




 
This will be fun to look back on in a couple years once Lily has decided they’re no use to her anymore.
I can almost hear the video rants talking about how ignored Liliana felt by Ginger while she was busy having a life as a 20 year old woman and how Mikaila never had time to attend to her third rape because she was also too busy working to gain a living. Imagine all the stories where the asexual Mikaila was the one coercing Liliana to suck her dick or how Ginger was actually jelous the entire time about she and Mikaila.

That, if the worst doesn't happen and Mikaila actually moves with Liliana and then joins on the smear campaing against Ginger after Liliana "opened her eyes" to how abusive she was.
 
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Here's Ginger and Mikaila's 2 cents on the current situation incase any of you were curious
They keep goin' on about this horrible harassment Lily is getting, here's Xain saying pretty much the same thing.
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It's creepy that all these people talk the same way, it's like Scientology. I know tumblr lingo and faux-sassy faggot lingo tend to overlap, but fuck it's like Lily's dictating these. Aside from that, I think it's been noted that the only groundswell Lizzy's drummed up are people saying they feel terrible for her and that Lily has shown signs of problematic behavior. Not people frothing at the mouth.

Lily just take the fucking L dude. Say you were mean or entitled, fake an apology, and pretend to improve. It will cost you a lot less I guarantee. Imagine if Mikail and Ginger don't take these red flags to heart and end up way more abused down the line. And have way worse things to say then "She wouldn't stop sleeping around".

But I suppose if you can't resist those terabytes of free porn, I guess you could keep digging this crater deeper. It's up to you dog.
 
They keep goin' on about this horrible harassment Lily is getting, here's Xain saying pretty much the same thing.
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It's creepy that all these people talk the same way, it's like Scientology. I know tumblr lingo and faux-sassy faggot lingo tend to overlap, but fuck it's like Lily's dictating these. Aside from that, I think it's been noted that the only groundswell Lizzy's drummed up are people saying they feel terrible for her and that Lily has shown signs of problematic behavior. Not people frothing at the mouth.

Lily just take the fucking L dude. Say you were mean or entitled, fake an apology, and pretend to improve. It will cost you a lot less I guarantee. Imagine if Mikail and Ginger don't take these red flags to heart and end up way more abused down the line. And have way worse things to say then "She wouldn't stop sleeping around".

But I suppose if you can't resist those terabytes of free porn, I guess you could keep digging this crater deeper. It's up to you dog.
I was about to say, all three of these could have been written by the same person, they sound so similar.
 
>Rape threats

Okay, who the fuck would want to rape Lily, first off. This is either some gay trolling ops or is being completely fabricated by Lily to rouse sympathy for herself and make Lizzy look evil by encouraging people to harass her. Which one is more likely? Oh, you know...

It's certainly no one on this board, and it's not like Lizzy's tweets have gone viral. Lily's tweets about Lizzy's tweets have probably been seen by more people. So I simply refuse to believe Lily is actually being harassed and she doesn't even have to show Mikaila and Ginger screenshots. They're so fucking dumb they'd believe Lily either way. She doesn't need sock accounts this time, but she probably made some anyways if we're being honest.
 
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I do love how Ginger and Mikaila are used as "See, they agree with me, which means I'm right!" arguments, except every instance of abuse Lilly and Lizzy have spoken about happened in private settings, where the only way the two could have known about it is through Lilly's own account of the matters. "This isn't coming from a stranger or second hand information, it's coming from Lilly's fuck buddy... Who is getting this from second hand information."
 
I mean honestly, most people I've talked to who hated that game with a burning passion have either not played it or wrote the entirety of it off as "woke trash" (while it really isn't lol)
And most of the people I've talked to say it's a poorly told story with a rote message that ruins a character they loved. Which is definitely not to say that some people haven't said some really stupid shit. That's why my original post emphasized most people, not everybody.

Not to derail about the game itself, but my point wasn't that this is a specific argument that's used by detractors. My point is that when people defend the game, they almost always feel a need to either call detractors manbabies who are upset that Joel died, too stupid to understand the plot, bigots, or a combination of all of them. It doesn't matter how specific or well-written an explanation for why they don't like the plot is, I have seen dozens of explanatory posts that just get dismissed by dozens more 'lol cry harder bigot'.

I'm sure there are advocates and defenders who don't do this, but every argument I've seen usually is less about the game and more about how people who don't like the game are stupid and bigoted and need tog et over it. Which, like... enjoy the game, man, but why do you feel like you have to insult people who don't?

Or the posts circle-jerking about how anybody who hates the game is a homophobe. Again, I wasn't listing a specific argument, but talking about the irony of people who don't like the game usually do so oftentimes loved the first and hate how it mistreats those character (like Ellie, a lesbian) in order to prop up a straight white woman being called homophobes. Who are they being homophobic against in this context?

The kicker is that the whole thing actually started years before the game's release, when the director Neil Druckmann said that anybody who didn't like the E3 trailer they had just released (shots of intense zombie violence cut through with Ellie and Dina making out) was a homophobic bigot. The only reason I even knew that trailer happened is because it came across my feed that a lot of lesbian fans of the first game found the trailer exploitative and fetishistic, and thus they were called homophobes and bigots and accused of lying about being lesbians and about being women at all. That was when I was informed that all lesbians are actually part of a hive mind and that not liking a release trailer was evidence that you aren't a true lesbian at all. 'Lesbian' no longer looks like a word to me.

To bring this back around: it's not an argument about the finished product. It's a marketing manipulation that tries to shame people into compliance. According to Lily, not allowing big corporation to manipulate your consumption of media based on shallow exploitive tactics... makes you a Nazi.

If that's the case, sieg heil, I guess.

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And she called my best friend of 4 years the N-word.
For some reason I can't find the screenshot of this, although I know it was within the last few pages.

When I first read this I thought there was something really weird about it and it finally sunk in. She isn't just accusing Lizzy of 'using the N-word', she's making it personal. She's making it personal on an almost comical level. Like, Lizzy isn't just a racist, she chose to be a racist to MY FRIEND, who I've known for FOUR YEARS.

Even if it happened, she's wording it like Lizzy knew this fact and did it specifically to hurt Mikaila (not Mikaila's best friend, whom she's known for four years). It completely detaches the act from the theoretical victim and just makes it all about Mikaila and how SHE felt. I'm guessing it's pure fabrication and this is just meant to try and build up the lie, but if not it doesn't speak well of Mikaila's priorities.

(I think this was also appended to her posts about how she'd been in an abusive relationship before so she knows what it's like so of COURSE she can recognize Lizzy as abusive. When I first saw those statements they read like somebody who was just making something up to give themselves artificial authority on the subject, but it's also entirely possible and would be pretty sad, as victims of abusive relationships can often wind up invested in another abuser and get themselves caught in a psychological cycle, which Lily would call 'laziness' and 'comfort'.)
 
My point is that when people defend the game, they almost always feel a need to either call detractors manbabies who are upset that Joel died, too stupid to understand the plot, bigots, or a combination of all of them. It doesn't matter how specific or well-written an explanation for why they don't like the plot is, I have seen dozens of explanatory posts that just get dismissed by dozens more 'lol cry harder bigot'.
I don't mean to derail either, in fact I'm writing another post and looking up citations so I'll make this quick

I've honestly yet to have a leveled conversation with someone who despises the game for legitimate reasons outside of "i'm angry joel dies", "abby has muscles" or "woke garbage reee reee reee" ...or reasons that aren't already implicitly explained like the "Joel trusts them" thing (something that takes less than a minute of basic reasoning to justify). And believe me I've looked, in fact I even had a conversation with a former Farms member that devolved into this lmfao. I mean if it quacks like a duck...

And when those are objectively the biggest criticisms the game has attracted, the biggest reason there's so much ire surrounding the game... Is it surprising that that's the reaction?
 
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Add on the fact the only people who follow lily on anything are her fans so yeah it was always gonna end with her getting more support. This fucking sucks dude

If you bring up KF to these people they don't listen, you bring it up as a way to show all the proof and shit and they will just ignore you and call you a troll or some shit. I've shared links to the write-up at the start of the thread to others and there is always one guy who goes "ew kiwifarms, I think less of you now." Except with lilys fanbase, it's not just one guy it's basically the majority.
idea. maybe we should make a public google docs (or whatever format would work, idk). It has no reference to the farms at all but it documents all of lily's shenanigans over the years.
then people may take it more seriously. people who simp for lily may read it because it's not associated with kiwifarms, and other wokeskulls who hate the farms will also read it as it isnt associated with us either.
 
They keep goin' on about this horrible harassment Lily is getting, here's Xain saying pretty much the same thing.
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It's creepy that all these people talk the same way, it's like Scientology. I know tumblr lingo and faux-sassy faggot lingo tend to overlap, but fuck it's like Lily's dictating these. Aside from that, I think it's been noted that the only groundswell Lizzy's drummed up are people saying they feel terrible for her and that Lily has shown signs of problematic behavior. Not people frothing at the mouth.

Lily just take the fucking L dude. Say you were mean or entitled, fake an apology, and pretend to improve. It will cost you a lot less I guarantee. Imagine if Mikail and Ginger don't take these red flags to heart and end up way more abused down the line. And have way worse things to say then "She wouldn't stop sleeping around".

But I suppose if you can't resist those terabytes of free porn, I guess you could keep digging this crater deeper. It's up to you dog.
It's kinda funny to me that Xain is a pariah in that Joshscorcher circle now that he's chosen to suck up to Jerry

It's also funny to me that people who try to maintain their friendships or stay fans of Jerry's have become incredibly vindictive and toxic themselves. It's like Jerry operates a Trump-like cult lol

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You know, it's weird isn't it, how practically everyone else who also knew Jerry on a personal level has had incredibly unpleasant experiences with this sweet, funny, kind, generous, understanding, extreme sunshine to be around person.

It's not that I don't believe that Jerry is practically Mary Poppins outright. It's more that the things I've seen suggest the exact opposite.

I mean, would a person who is sweet, funny, kind, generous, understanding, and an overall sunshine to be around accuse a mentally ill person whose GFM they promoted of costing them money for alienating their fans (when that's something they do every fucking day) and ban them from their discord for "fishing for sympathy" despite enabling it? And force them to draw art they're uncomfortable with? (Hope Ginger and Mikaila love beastiality just as much as their new spouse does lol)

Would a person who is sweet, funny, kind, generous, understanding, and an overall sunshine to be around actively insult their fans when they try to interact with them and implicitly name them the reason why they're dying of stress? Even going so far as to say fans bother them more than stalkers and Nazis?

I'll be waiting for Ginger and Mikaila to become the next Lizzy, since evidently, people who want to be around Jerry never learn.
 
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these people are so misinformed about Lily's situation that they still think people today still care about what Lily talked about SU, really?
her criticisms are stupid and of bad faith, but they have already become just a drop of this sea of shit that is Lily's presence on the internet

besides this is just a tactic to divert attention from Lizzy to make this situation entirely about Lily, because they think Lizzy is so clearly and maliciously lying that anyone who decides to listen to her can only be doing it because they hate Lily and just for that.
they also don’t know Lizzy personally, but they’re here to psychoanalyze her as if she were a psychopath

also this abusive ex from Mikaila, she calls "She" despite saying that she tried to get her pregnant and says that Lizzy is note for note the same, but I don't remember Lily saying that she broke her things. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lizzy can't get anybody pregnant unless they wanted to imply she set up the rape to get Lily pregnant?

which doesn’t make sense and seems forced just to associate more negative things with Lizzy, as if calling her a drunk racist wasn’t enough
 
I don't mean to derail either, in fact I'm writing another post and looking up citations so I'll make this quick

I've honestly yet to have a leveled conversation with someone who despises the game for legitimate reasons outside of "i'm angry joel dies", "abby has muscles" or "woke garbage reee reee reee" ...or reasons that aren't already implicitly explained like the "Joel trusts them" thing (something that takes less than a minute of basic reasoning to justify). And believe me I've looked, in fact I even had a conversation with a former Farms member that devolved into this lmfao. I mean if it quacks like a duck...

And when those are objectively the biggest criticisms the game has attracted, the biggest reason there's so much ire surrounding the game... Is it surprising that that's the reaction?
Maybe you've looked in the wrong places?
Like, the biggest criticisms I've seen are about how stupid and hollow the "Revenge is bad and won't change anything" message is after the game requires you to murder your way through hundreds of faceless minions, only to stop at the one person you actually wanted to kill. How unsatisfying it is that the villain of the game walks away scot free while Ellie's life is completely ruined, and the fact that there's an extensive segment where you have to play as the extremely unlikable villain.

these people are so misinformed about Lily's situation that they still think people today still care about what Lily talked about SU, really?
her criticisms are stupid and of bad faith, but they have already become just a drop of this sea of shit that is Lily's presence on the internet

besides this is just a tactic to divert attention from Lizzy to make this situation entirely about Lily, because they think Lizzy is so clearly and maliciously lying that anyone who decides to listen to her can only be doing it because they hate Lily and just for that.
they also don’t know Lizzy personally, but they’re here to psychoanalyze her as if she were a psychopath

also this abusive ex from Mikaila, she calls "She" despite saying that she tried to get her pregnant and says that Lizzy is note for note the same, but I don't remember Lily saying that she broke her things. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Lizzy can't get anybody pregnant unless they wanted to imply she set up the rape to get Lily pregnant?

which doesn’t make sense and seems forced just to associate more negative things with Lizzy, as if calling her a drunk racist wasn’t enough
Maybe they actually are that delusional, but I doubt they actually believe that this is about Steven Universe. This is just like Lily accusing all of her critics of being angry manbabies who harrass her because she insulted their favorite cartoons. Strawman, ad hominem, well poisoning, whatever the proper term for it is, it's nothing more than them trying to devalue the arguments of the opposition by discrediting their character.
 
Maybe you've looked in the wrong places?
Like, the biggest criticisms I've seen are about how stupid and hollow the "Revenge is bad and won't change anything" message is after the game requires you to murder your way through hundreds of faceless minions, only to stop at the one person you actually wanted to kill. How unsatisfying it is that the villain of the game walks away scot free while Ellie's life is completely ruined, and the fact that there's an extensive segment where you have to play as the extremely unlikable villain.
I mean 1. Her life was ruined anyway, killing her at the end wouldn't have changed that, it wouldn't have gotten rid of the PTSD and wouldn't have prevented Dina from leaving at the end lol not to mention a few things, Abby's sailing on a stormy ocean while extremely battered after both being imprisoned for months and essentially losing a fight to Ellie, and she bit into Ellie's hand that was bitten by an infected not too long prior, so there's a good chance she was gonna die anyway and 2. Abby wasn't really unlikeable, and wasn't really the villain, at least not after we learn more about her, in fact her motivation to kill Joel makes 100% sense and is no different than Ellie's to want to kill Abby. The whole idea is, where does this destructive cycle end? They both lost nearly everything and caused endless pain to people who weren't even involved due to their destructive need for vengeance.

Abby didn't even have a satisfied look on her face when she killed him lol

They even lost themselves numerous times along the way. Ellie tortured Nora (who was helpless and not resisting, unlike those hundreds of faceless minions) before she died in a brutal way akin to the way Abby tortured Joel, and Abby was about to kill Dina after Ellie begged that she was pregnant, because Ellie had killed her pregnant friend Mel (not knowing she was pregnant, but Abby didn't know that), but stopped after realizing she was essentially going to murder an unborn child in her fury.

Again, where does the destructive cycle end?

IMO it wasn't really hollow, there are perfectly good justifications for everything the game does.
 
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