March for Trump (1/6) - (1/5-1/6), 18 NAKED PROUD BOYS IN THE SHOWER AT RAM RANCH

Was this a terrorist incident?

  • Yes

    Votes: 514 24.4%
  • No

    Votes: 543 25.8%
  • There were bad people(terrorists) involved, but that shouldn't reflect on everybody else

    Votes: 260 12.4%
  • It was the state who created terror

    Votes: 788 37.4%

  • Total voters
    2,105
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A law enforcement source said the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force arrested Eduard Florea, 40, on a weapons-possession charge.

Florea has allegedly threatened to kill people in the past, and made several online threats against liberal politicians and government agencies, the source said. He’s also been busted before, in 2014, when a search of his home turned up a cache of weapons, the source said.
 




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Trump fan Christopher Stanton Georgia found dead with blood everywhere after Capitol riot arrest was a bank manager​



Trump Reportedly Told Pence ‘You Can Either Go Down In History As A Patriot Or As A Pussy’ On January 6​

So is this a suicide or a "suicide"? I mean, I heard that committing suicide via shot to the chest is a thing, but I still can't wrap my head around why the fuck you would do that?
 
So is this a suicide or a "suicide"? I mean, I heard that committing suicide via shot to the chest is a thing, but I still can't wrap my head around why the fuck you would do that?
I feel like he'd need to be an actual person of repute in order for this to be a killing. A shot to the heart is an instant death and is said to be far less painless than a shot to the head if you mess up.
Pretty sure the guy just an hero'd
 
A Reason article.

Millions of Users Are Flooding Encrypted Apps After Social Media Purges​

Plus: Supreme Court declines more election challenges, Lisa Montgomery gets temporary stay of execution, and more...​

ELIZABETH NOLAN BROWN | 1.12.2021 9:30 AM
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Encrypted apps are seeing a surge in downloads, with Signal installs reaching a record high for the company. "Signal saw approximately 7.5 million installs globally through the Apple App Store and Google Play store between Jan. 6 and Jan. 10," notes CNBC. "That's 43 times the number from the previous week. It is [the] highest week or even monthly install number for Signal in the app's history." Over the same period, 5.6 million people reportedly downloaded Telegram.
These are global download numbers, so we should be careful assigning a too United States-centric cause for them. But the U.S. alone provides multiple plausible reasons why more people might be turning to the privacy of encrypted chats like Signal and Telegram.

Twitter has been booting a ton of accounts in the past week (including @realDonaldTrump). Many mainstream social media platforms have been extra jumpy about potential conspiracy theories and misinformation, and Parler is temporarily down after Amazon canceled its web hosting account for allegedly not cracking down on this sort of content enough. Meanwhile, federal agencies, local cops, members of the media, and citizen spies have all been combing social sites for evidence of involvement in the Capitol riot or future far-right organizing. Is it any wonder people might be fleeing for less public (and less accessible to officials, even with a court order) alternatives?
And does anyone think the Capitol and U.S. statehouses are now safer, QAnon conspiracies less likely to flourish, or election fraud fever dreams less likely to stir action now that they've been driven to less visible platforms with a smaller chance of pushback from dissenting voices, outside discovery, or platform moderation?

"On Telegram, where members of the Proud Boys and other militia groups host popular channels, there have been calls for people to organize for marches on state capitol buildings on Saturday (Jan. 16)," notes The New York Times:
On one Telegram channel, which has over 20,000 followers, addresses were posted for those buildings, as well as the addresses for tech companies, including Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Google.
Members of the Boogaloo movement, another far-right group, have also organized on Telegram and Signal for rallies on Sunday (Jan 17). On 4chan and other messaging groups fliers were posted calling for another march on Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20. In comments under those posts, people have voiced support for targeting various news organizations like The New York Times and CNN.
Encrypted platforms certainly aren't just for people plotting something nefarious, of course. The apps are very popular among journalists. They're an economical alternative to text messaging for people with international contacts. And so on.

There are all sorts of benign reasons why these apps might be experiencing a surge right now in particular. For instance, users are reportedly fleeing Facebook-owned WhatsApp over concerns about the company's privacy policy changes.
Other platforms are losing users due to state censorship and meddling.

WeChat—an app immensely popular in China and among Chinese immigrants elsewhere—is also suffering from a host of issues, including alleged shadowbanning on behalf of Chinese state forces and a simultaneous attempt by the Trump administration to ban it from the U.S.

The situation shows the futility of trying to fix social and political issues by threatening tech platforms that won't hide evidence of them. The issues and the ideas driving them don't go away, they just go underground. And the only way to reach them there is to undermine privacy protections for political dissidents from authoritarian regimes, journalists, whistleblowers, all sorts of political organizers, and literally everyone else in the process.





Here's an interesting article by someone who was at the Capitol protest.

A First-Hand Account at The Trump Election Protest
The true story is getting lost in the propaganda.
by MATT KEENER

January 11, 2021, 12:12 AM



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The 2020 election was very much about who controlled the information and who got to tell the story. The Capitol “Riots” were no different. It’s hard to gauge how many people were truly there for the rally and event that day, in part because the mainstream media outlets would never want to give accurate totals for those numbers. It’s doubtful the scene or event would have made that much of a blip on the news radar that day if the events at the Capitol Building did not take place. Prior to that, CNN and others had little interest in explaining how a “losing” President presided over one of the largest crowds to ever gather at the Washington Monument on Wednesday in January.

I was sandwiched in the middle of a sea of the most people I’m convinced I will ever see in my entire life. An Ohioan – I looked out in every direction and figured the crowd was at least the scope of four to five totally packed Ohio Stadiums in Columbus. That is probably one of the overwhelming themes of a few days in Washington D.C. – there were just so many people. They were at the hotels. They were on the turnpike and at highway rest stops along the way in Trump gear with Trump flags. They were at the rally and split out in two different directions after the speech to head to the Capitol Building.

Ron N. from New York stood in front of us. In between speakers, he told the story of having COVID-19 and doctors telling his wife to get his affairs in order. And then one doctor fought to have Hydroxychloroquine prescribed. Nelson credited it for saving his life.

Sean R. stood to our right and filmed most of the events on his Go Pro. He described what brought him to D.C. His mother received a knock on the door Thanksgiving Day. “She followed the COVID protocols to a T prior to that. She would not leave the house,” he said. “She had seven people over for Thanksgiving and someone told on her. The cops threatened to arrest her. She had a nervous breakdown. She’s still not over it.”
From virus lockdowns, to the medication prescribed for the virus, to the number of people in attendance at a rally or what constitutes a “peaceful protest” versus a “riot”– every event and piece of information is spun, manipulated, or tweaked for an audience today.

What the media will not say is at the rally I saw some of the most beautiful scenes of my life. A crowd of Vietnamese marched through the audience with their yellow and red flags, one man’s face painted red, white, and blue with “Trump” across his forehead during the speeches.

After the speech, we followed an enormous American flag for two miles. When we finally made it to the Capitol Building, you could tell the crowd had already made it past several barriers. Green temporary fencing was on the ground. Metal sections were propped up on various retaining walls as makeshift ladders.

So much of the last year was about the governmental powers that be, Big Tech, and the media trying to manipulate the narrative and the nation – and in that moment they lost control. There were just too many people.

There was a sense where we were standing – looking around at the surrounding crowd and men perched atop buildings – that we were in harm’s way, that police could potentially continue to use tear gas or that if someone wanted to commit an act of violence or “terror,” like a couple weeks prior in Nashville, they could.

The reality is, the atmosphere outside resembled an open air concert or festival more than a “riot.” The “storming” had taken place.
There were rumors a woman had been shot inside.

A man got on a loudspeaker, “Another small announcement folks, Nancy Pelosi’s Office has been breached.” The crowd cheered.

The 6 p.m. curfew was announced.

People sang the National Anthem and said the Pledge of Allegiance as a massive flag that was draped across scaffolding on the Capitol Building waved in the wind. If this was the last dying vestige or gasps of Freedom of the Press, Speech, or the Right to Assembly, I am proud to say I was there to see it.

When we walked back to our hotel, we heard the news.

“Fox news is in there calling us terrorists,” one man said. Chuck Schumer compared the day to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. By morning, articles and videos circulated of Ashli Babbitt’s killing. An unarmed woman, the 14-year Air Force Veteran was painted in many news articles and comment sections with no redeeming qualities – a traitor, terrorist, conspiracy theorist and a loon who “got what she deserved.” There would be no humanizing or gold casket it seemed for Babbitt, who live streamed her walk to the Capitol.

More people should have died. It was a sign of white privilege that more unarmed women weren’t shot and killed, they claimed.

If this was the last dying vestige or gasps of Freedom of the Press, Speech, or the Right to Assembly, I am proud to say I was there to see it.
For someone who watched 9/11 unfold on live television, terrorism seems like a mischaracterization of the day and the events. In some instances, protesters appear to be let right into the building, with one officer saying “I disagree with it but I respect it.” Video surfaced that showed Trump supporters calling out members in the crowd and physically stopping them from breaking windows.

In the end, undoubtedly, Trump supporters did enter the building. And undoubtedly, the people who entered the building to some extent knowingly exposed themselves to danger. But “traitors”? Many in the crowd used that word to describe the politicians inside who willfully kicked the can of responsibility down the road when it came to policing the 2020 Election.

Rioters? It certainly wasn’t the overwhelming mood of the day nor did it resemble the burnt down buildings or violence seen across the country after George Floyd. The protesters were people who had their stories, their voices and their votes misrepresented. They had seemingly exhausted every other legal avenue or means of expression, so they showed up at the politicians’ doorstep. If this story was written 200 years ago, a writer might describe the crowd as patriotic or passionate. Someone might compare it to The Boston Tea Party.

Incitement? The President did not say storm the Capitol or call for violence.

Today, the event will surely be used to crack down on conservatives. Facebook banned Trump immediately afterwards, disregarding Trump’s calls to be peaceful and go home when things escalated. Twitter followed by deleting the President’s account and many accounts of top conservatives including General Michael Flynn, Attorney Sidney Powell, and a page for the “Walk Away” movement.

Glenn Greenwald likened what is to come for conservatives to the post 9/11 fallout with civil liberties and the Patriot Act, where under the guise of safety, the U.S. curtailed the rights of Muslims and everyday citizens. “If you question all the new powers they want, it means you love the Terrorists,” he said. “This is Liberals’ 9/11.”

Andrew Breitbart tried to warn us in 2012 about the name calling and shaming into silence. Racists, bigots, fascists, deplorables. On January 6th, the Left added terrorists and traitors to the list. Moving forward, anything right of socialism will be described as radical or alt-right. “You do not support terrorism, do you?” they will ask, knowing there is really only one correct answer.

I looked for every reason not to travel to D.C. last week. I covered a previous post-election event in D.C. in November. But I want to be on record. I was there the day “We The People” told a corrupt government that we know they stole an election and that the government works for us.


 
So is this a suicide or a "suicide"? I mean, I heard that committing suicide via shot to the chest is a thing, but I still can't wrap my head around why the fuck you would do that?
I'm pretty sure storming a barricade with Secret Service on the other side is also suicide, just with more paperwork.

At some point you just have sit back, crack a beer, and say "People are nuts".
 
It’s so bizarre to see Republicans who’ve been backing Trump for years now all of a sudden turn on the guy on a dime. I can’t tell if they just wanna distance themselves from him now because his reputation is just that bad at this point or if they always saw the guy as a useful idiot that they were gonna throw to the wolves when it was convenient for them anyways.
 
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This. I guarantee you if the BLM riots were actually focused on specific federal targets, and not just burning, and destroying random civilian shit, the hammer would've come down on them a lot sooner.
It did come down on them a lot sooner. Police arrested 316 people on June 1 in DC during BLM protests. On January 6th they arrested 61 people. That's the reason this is going to be the most expensive investigation ever. They had all these people acting wild and instead of arresting them on the spot they casually escorted them out of the building so now they have to launch an unprecedented investigation to find people scattered all over the US who they let slip away.

Also some of these people are truly fucked. DOJ is pursuing sedition charges against some people.
 
It’s so bizarre to see Republicans who’ve been backing Trump for years now all of a sudden turn on the guy on a dime. I can’t tell if they just wanna distance themselves from him now because his reputation is just that bad at this point or if they always saw the guy as a useful idiot that they were gonna throw to the wolves when it was convenient for them anyways.

As if it's supposed to be funny.
 
The one good thing to happen in politics in the last year is the complete dissolution of the "anti-woke "class first" left. All have now either become wokies themselves (TYT types), or joined the dissident right. This prevents young kids who hate corporations, who, due to censorship, think the entire right-wing is pro-free market, from joining the left. There is literally no-one left except Glenn Greenwald, and any mention of his name will get you reviled by any leftist, even the "anti-woke" r/stupidpol crowd (which is just wokies now).

There's still Chapo Trap House (the podcast not the now dead sub) but they have to walk on eggshells and pay some lip service to woke shit.

And yeah I was in the class first group when these protests started and I'm now fully on the dissident right.
 
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