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[Pikimon]

Now imagine if they decided to shutdown the MRA subreddits.

 

[The Dude]

I don't use reddit. I've never been on reddit. I'm just here to watch Nero play the fiddle as it all burns.

 

[PeteyCoffee]

/r/pics, one of the default subreddits that came back after being asked to by the admins is being flooded with black pics and the mods are responding with mass bans.

I had fun.

 

[RWS Watcher]

Meanwhile in Bizzaro Reddit...

LOL VOAT.

What was that guy expecting when he agreed to be in the delivery room with the mother of his child? He could've waited in the waiting room while she gave birth. Childbirth is messy as fuck. He comes off as being extremely childish and ignorant of biology.

 

[Pikimon]

Today I Learned is back and full of hilariously passive-aggressive submissions

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3bzbg4/til_that_aol_had_volunteer_mods_that_filed_a/

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilear..._after_mismanagement_digg_a_company_that_had/

And also a bunch of shitposting with the name Victoria (name of the fired admin)

Pics is also back buttttttt with allegations that the admins (in particular Ellen Pao) forced it to be open and barred the mods from the control panel

The members then call him out and he chimps out (still chimping out in the comments)

And the mod's reactions:

 

[plasticine]

rest in piss shittit

 

[Pickle Inspector]

This has to be one of the most disgusting subreddits still not taken down: http://www.reddit.com/r/CuteFemaleCorpses (I found someone link a bunch of subreddits in protest of the hate ones that got taken down and that was the worst by far) (NSFW to the extreme)

 

[seagull]

Dacvak, a former Reddit employee with leukemia had an AMA which just had all of his comments deleted. He said that he was fired after Pao decided he was to ill to work, despite the fact that his doctor was willing to allow him to return to his job.
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[Strelok]

Here is my prediction of what will happen. In a week or two most of the subs will be back. People will still passively aggressively bitch about Pao but do nothing of substance against it. A few of the default subs will stay locked, but really nothing in them is of value anyway. And someone will ask the legaladvice subreddit how to use the 1st amendment against Pao despite that not being how the constitution works. SJWs and MRA will shitpost at each other untill the end of time. Everything will stay about as shit as it always has been.

Then process will repeat in 6 months. And so on and so on.

EDIT: I was wrong. They didn't ask the legaladvice sub how to use the first amendment against reddit. They asked the legaladvice sub how they could do a hostile takeover of reddit, without realizing exactly what a hostile takeover is (they read the wikipedia article on it and didn't seem to realize every method involves buying a sizable portion of the company to achieve a 51%+ majority)

 

[Megahertz]

Here is my prediction of what will happen...

Agreed. I don't think this will shut down Rebbit for good at all. It's too big, too active, and not enough people will move over to Voat right now. It takes a huge upheaval by the userbase itself for a website to die, e.g everybody needs to just up and walk out (digg, Myspace). Which knowing Reddit, fat chance.

Even 4chan, with everybody whining about SJWs and Moot leaving, is still as active as ever despite it being somewhat of a dead horse website, 8chan not considered. A lot of these sites will take a long, long time to finally die. But they will soon, especially since we have previous examples.

 

[Ferls]

Dacvak, a former Reddit employee with leukemia had an AMA which just had all of his comments deleted. He said that he was fired after Pao decided he was to ill to work, despite the fact that his doctor was willing to allow him to return to his job.
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Also enlightened the userbase to why Pao is a permanent CEO instead of the interim CEO she was meant to be.

I've heard speculation that Ellen Pao was brought in to help monetize the site. Your experience seems to support that.

Not really. To be honest, the only reason Ellen was made CEO was because Yishan has unexpectedly left reddit. Yishan, I believe, had Ellen step up as interim CEO just until they were able to find a more qualified one. Eventually, though, Ellen just stayed CEO.
When someone at our company meeting someone bluntly asked "You stated you were the interim CEO and that reddit was looking for one to replace Yishan. Are we still looking for a new CEO, and if not, why should we trust you to do the job?"
She literally responded with "You'll have to pry this position from my cold, dead hands!!!" which was met with applause. To be totally honest, I just sat there dumbfounded. It was one of the most non-answers I had ever heard.

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[Strelok]

Agreed. I don't think this will shut down Rebbit for good at all. It's too big, too active, and not enough people will move over to Voat right now. It takes a huge upheaval by the userbase itself for a website to die, e.g everybody needs to just up and walk out (digg, Myspace). Which knowing Reddit, fat chance.

Even 4chan, with everybody whining about SJWs and Moot leaving, is still as active as ever despite it being somewhat of a dead horse website, 8chan not considered. A lot of these sites will take a long, long time to finally die. But they will soon, especially since we have previous examples.

The big problem with any of this killing reddit is it's a problem that mainly only effects the largest and the default subreddits, which for the most part most users have resigned to being giant shitholes away, and most people keep to their little corners for the most part. So until it directly effects them and their corners, nobody actually gives a shit. And most of these corners are too small for the shitty people who run Reddit to notice either.

A lot of people remark the sole reason the default subreddits exist to punish you for forgetting to log in by hitting you with their terrible, terrible content.

EDIT: And now that Pao is gone my point actually doubles down. The massive subreddits are all acting like its the fucking second coming, while the smaller ones people were actually UNAWARE that anything had even happened.

 

[Ferls]

So that livefeed is going to hell, with members of the feed deleting each others' posts.
(I do have screens of the deleted posts. It's almost entirely links to the petition, and asking why feed posts were deleted)
This is what you get for having more than 20 unrelated people doing what only a few people should be doing without communicating.

 

[Pikimon]

Reddit will die eventually, but it'll die for some other unrelated reason.

 

[PeteyCoffee]

The big problem with any of this killing reddit is it's a problem that mainly only effects the largest and the default subreddits, which for the most part most users have resigned to being giant shitholes away, and most people keep to their little corners for the most part. So until it directly effects them and their corners, nobody actually gives a shit. And most of these corners are too small for the shitty people who run Reddit to notice either.

A lot of people remark the sole reason the default subreddits exist to punish you for forgetting to log in by hitting you with their terrible, terrible content.

I think reddit might collapse. The entire appeal of reddit was that the subreddits were autonomous communities - run freely and without fear by volunteers who are simply passionate about the topic.

If reddit loses that appeal (by becoming authoritarian), people won't feel satisfied by it anymore, and they will stop using it. It was the only thing reddit did well. Facebook does social better. Google does aggregation better. Tumblr does cool photos better. Voat still has autonomous subforums.

Another part of that, if the mods and users constantly feel under threat of being banned suddenly (losing the years of effort they put into their subreddit), the uncertainty will drive them away. Why would anyone let a dumb website terrorize them?

I've heard whispers reddit isn't making enough money. To improve cash flow, they'd probably need to redesign the site, to make more room for ads. A redesign was the straw which broke Digg's back.

 

[Strelok]

I think reddit might collapse. The entire appeal of reddit was that the subreddits were autonomous communities - run freely and without fear by volunteers who are simply passionate about the topic.

If reddit loses that appeal (by becoming authoritarian), people won't feel satisfied by it anymore, and they will stop using it. It was the only thing reddit did well. Facebook does social better. Google does aggregation better. Tumblr does cool photos better. Voat still has autonomous subforums.

Another part of that, if the mods and users constantly feel under threat of being banned suddenly (losing the years of effort they put into their subreddit), the uncertainty will drive them away. Why would anyone let a dumb website terrorize them?

I've heard whispers reddit isn't making enough money. To improve cash flow, they'd probably need to redesign the site, to make more room for ads. A redesign was the straw which broke Digg's back.

I think you're vastly overestimating people's ability to actually take the effort to move somewhere else. Most of the non-default subreddits are completely neutral to this whole thing, and the only thing that the blackouts did was piss users off at the moderators not the admins. And Digg's downfall was more than just a layout change, but rather how it completely fucked the entire system up in one blow by plain not working, and allowing power users to game it to the point that the average user's content never had a chance of getting anywhere. Dig wasn't just bad, it was unusable after that update. Boiling Digg's downfall down to "they changed the layout" is missing the forest for the trees. Plus it was in the era where Facebook started eating anything even slightly social related.

This won't kill reddit anymore than the shit that hit 4chan killed it.

It'll be an amusing as fuck ride that everyone comes out looking worse for, but it won't kill it.

 

[PeteyCoffee]

I think you're vastly overestimating people's ability to actually take the effort to move somewhere else. Most of the non-default subreddits are completely neutral to this whole thing, and the only thing that the blackouts did was piss users off at the moderators not the admins. And Digg's downfall was more than just a layout change, but rather how it completely fucked the entire system up in one blow by plain not working, and allowing power users to game it to the point that the average user's content never had a chance of getting anywhere. Dig wasn't just bad, it was unusable after that update. Boiling Digg's downfall down to "they changed the layout" is missing the forest for the trees. Plus it was in the era where Facebook started eating anything even slightly social related.

This won't kill reddit anymore than the shit that hit 4chan killed it.

It'll be an amusing as fuck ride that everyone comes out looking worse for, but it won't kill it.

I agree with you reddit isn't collapsing for a while. It would take a lot of escalation.

However, using a website takes effort. Not using a website doesn't take any effort.

The end of reddit is when users feel it's no longer worth making the effort. Users will begin to feel that way if reddit continues threatening them.

(A tyrant doesn't need to subjugate every one in order to assert dominance. The tyrant only needs to perpetrate that he can and will.)

Edit: To be clear, I don't think very many are going to move directly from reddit to a different website. I think they'll become weary and stop altogether with this kind of content, for a while. Again, it depends if this continues to escalate.

 

[DN 420]

I want to apologize to our community for yesterday,” Reddit’s interim CEO Ellen Pao told TIME on Friday. “We handled the transition in a way that caused some disruption, and we should have done a better job.” Pao said the company’s management should have informed moderators earlier about planned personnel changes. Pao declined to comment further on Taylor’s departure.

This is such stupid bullshit. It's such a shame Pao won't just allow herself to chimp out at the fact she runs a website who's userbase deplores her. Such a potential lolcow

 

[Wallace]

Reddit hasn't been profitable for quite a while. Trying to bring the site back to profitability makes sense, Pao is just doing it very heavy-handedly, and the perception remains that she isn't "one of us" among the Reddit community. She'll just keep doing whatever she wants, "free speech" butthurt will ring throughout the land, and some people will fade away to Voat to join the pseudo-libertarian MRA circlejerk there.

ED had a good summation on their Voat page: Voat users are to Reddit what SJWs are to Tumblr.

 

[Pikimon]

They need to bridge the gap between the community and the administration if they want Reddit to last, they need the admins to not be perceived as shadowy figures in an Ivory Tower sneering at the plebs but rather as just users ensuring that the site is running smoothly, nothing more or less.