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I fucking knew it. I'll bet by next week they admit they overreacted and it's just the flu now that Biden is in.

What really worries me now is this bullshit worked so we'll get a "deadly pandemic" every time a presidential election rolls around.
Boy, that's going to piss people off. Especially small businesses that collapsed around the owners ears because of the government
 


So as far as I can tell from that screenshot. It says follow manufacturer directions.

I’m sure the cases go down, but the screenshot words don’t say anything about false positives. Are we sure about this or what?

Edit: it does say that disease prevalence going down increases false positives - my bad. I apologize and now I am equally likely to test positive even if everyone around me had it and is immune.
 
The vax roll out is already turning in to a complete shitshow in NYC. Coumo floated buying directly from phizer. People jumped through hoops to get registered only to be called on the day of their appointment to be told they ran out. Tomorrow they probably will fully run out.
Deblosio wants to just give the doses earmarked for 2nd shot to people as the first shot. Which means they are just going to be writing off the 2nd dose because no way they will get restocked x2 in 21 days. And this is with the program only open those 75 and older who have risk factors.
When do you think they will be able to move to the next phase? At this rate June? Think there will be 2 classes of people now? 1shots vs 2shots?

NJ is letting smokers cut the line because smoking puts them in the high risk

Didn't old Joe say he planned to have 100million doses out by 100th day in office? Watch the "experts" start pushing the idea that you really only need 1 dose now. Trust the SCIENCE!
 
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So as far as I can tell from that screenshot. It says follow manufacturer directions.

I’m sure the cases go down, but the screenshot words don’t say anything about false positives. Are we sure about this or what?

Edit: it does say that disease prevalence going down increases false positives - my bad. I apologize and now I am equally likely to test positive even if everyone around me had it and is immune.
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Didn't old Joe say he planned to have 100million doses out by 100th day in office? Watch the "experts" start pushing the idea that you really only need 1 dose now. Trust the SCIENCE!
Joe will come out and say "We learned that people's immune systems react well enough to the virus given proper diet, vitamin D, low viral loads, and lack of exacerbating factors to prevent most hospitalizations. Therefore most people don't need a vaccine since their body can handle it." Experts will suddenly discover that healthy humans have an effective immune system! Yay uncle Joe!
 
With all the stories coming out about this vaccine lately I'm leaning toward-if not comfortably seated in-the "fuck this shit" column for now. Mom decided to schedule her vaccine appointment as soon as they lowered the age limit in NY to 65+ when just last month she was going on about how she was going to wait because she didn't trust it. When I asked her what made her change her mind she didn't know what I meant. Apparently she was never against waiting and her reasoning was it seems fine, or something along those lines. I don't know what the fuck happened there. Told my Dad about the waiting list I declined and he sounded like he was about to faint from disbelief. I'm surprised I haven't been barred from entering the house without a mask until my grandmother is fully vaxed (she's probably healthier than the rest of us put together).

Also, got a text from work with a notice about a "vaccination information session" via zoom meeting. I'm curious to see what exactly it's about (I'm assuming there are some special exceptions for employees or some students they want to make people aware of if they want to get vaccinated sooner) but I have to access this from my work email, which I am currently locked out of and don't feel like jumping through the hoops to access it again right now.
I don't watch tv often. Like an hour a day when eating dinner with my grandma and chilling after.
but I've noticed a huge amount of commercials for online therapy and antidepressants and shit.
I bet big pharma is lining their pockets good and fat with all this...(:_(

PS anyone tried online therapy. I'm very hesitant to try it but...
If you have a hobby you can take advantage of I'd suggest that. Personally I like building model kits. Not very good at it, but it's somewhat delicate work so it keeps you focused.
 
So how are they going to keep justifying lockdowns once they say that Joe Biden beat The Varus? My bets are on either they never admit that Joe Biden beat The Varus "We have always been at war with Eastasia" style or, failing that, COVID-20!
 
So how are they going to keep justifying lockdowns once they say that Joe Biden beat The Varus? My bets are on either they never admit that Joe Biden beat The Varus "We have always been at war with Eastasia" style or, failing that, COVID-20!
Scary new Covid mutations and Orange Man leaving him such a horrible mess of course.
 
The only upside to Covid right now is that a lot of the eviction moratoriums have expired and I'm greatly enjoying the salt from all the smug reddit commies who are being btfo by their landlords.
I believe Biden wants to impose a national moratorium on evictions as part of his first 100 days/COVID package. Even if he can't or doesn't do that, states and localities with blue leadership have already extended their moratoriums.

Landlords really are behind the 8-ball. The indefinitely-extended moratoriums might help their tenants that have lost hours or their jobs due to COVID, but landlords have few resources available to help them cover any rental property-related expenses that they can't pay without the rental income. Another side-effect from what I heard over the weekend is that people discovering squatters on their property can't remove them if an eviction moratorium is in place.

He'll also make wearing masks a federal mandate but idk how seeing as that's usurping states rights and we legit had a civil war because of politicians doing that shit
Given the question of enforcing a national mask mandate versus states rights, Biden's order requiring masks at Federal buildings/property is probably the best he can constitutionally do.

my bets: Super lockdown for 100 days then after that covid magically becomes a nothingburger bc biden saved the day from orange mans china virus!
A Biden-ordered lockdown could happen, but some Blue states are acting as if they might lift or eliminate restrictions now that one of their own is President and it won't surprise me if some of the number fudging ends to make it look like case numbers are dropping dramatically now that Biden is in office -- vaccine rollout issues notwithstanding.

We’re definitely, finally entering the USA’s NEET / hikkikomori stage. All the conditions are there: widespread hopelessness, disconnection from others, no economic prospects for entire generations. This covid thing ain’t helping either.
Now the the Democrats control both the executive and legislative branches, I wonder if they might use the pandemic as a way to impose UBI like many in the party have discussed. It would sound plausible if they spun it as a way to help people replace the income they've lost over the past 10 months. However, I can see the party allowing those payments to continue once they deem the pandemic over despite the price cost.

Even with the white house, senate and congress in their hands, they're still going to find a way to fuck things up, aren't they?

I already get the feeling the Democrats are going to piss away the first 2 years before the midterms to petty infighting and laziness. Just like the Republicans did when Trump came into office.
If either party could present a united front when they controlled the Presidency and both chambers of Congress, they get some serious shit accomplished. As we've seen before -- especially during Obama's and Trump's presidencies, the majority party tends to squander their advantage and accomplish noting before one or both of the branches of Congress flips to the opposing party. If the Dems don't unite and find a way to reign in their most liberal members, it's very possible that they will accomplish little in the next two years.

I fucking knew it. I'll bet by next week they admit they overreacted and it's just the flu now that Biden is in.
It's been my belief that COVID has been politicized to make Republicans look bad and incompetent. However, it can't be helping the Democrats -- except with their most die hard constituents -- that the areas they currently control have had all kinds of issues with successfully vaccinating people at the numbers that had promised or hoped for.

If you have a hobby you can take advantage of I'd suggest that.
This is a good suggestion. I've also used some of the time to get rid of old junk I don't need and catch up on items that were indefinitely postponed for whatever reason.
 
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Whitmer Violated Her Own COVID Rules By Attending Inauguration In D.C.​

Governor Gretchen Whitmer broke her own COVID-19 rules today by attending Joe Biden’s inauguration in Washington D.C. On January 13, Whitmer limited outdoor gatherings to 25 people but then herself attended Biden’s inauguration that was estimated to have “a couple of thousand” of people in attendance, per Rep. James Clyburn, co-chair of the Biden Inaugural Committee.
Can't no pandemic stop this career train.
 
The vax roll out is already turning in to a complete shitshow in NYC. Coumo floated buying directly from phizer. People jumped through hoops to get registered only to be called on the day of their appointment to be told they ran out. Tomorrow they probably will fully run out.
Deblosio wants to just give the doses earmarked for 2nd shot to people as the first shot. Which means they are just going to be writing off the 2nd dose because no way they will get restocked x2 in 21 days. And this is with the program only open those 75 and older who have risk factors.
When do you think they will be able to move to the next phase? At this rate June? Think there will be 2 classes of people now? 1shots vs 2shots?

NJ is letting smokers cut the line because smoking puts them in the high risk

Didn't old Joe say he planned to have 100million doses out by 100th day in office? Watch the "experts" start pushing the idea that you really only need 1 dose now. Trust the SCIENCE!
Not completely sure how he is going to ramp production up. Media said "use the defense act" like laws are some magic wand that can speed up natural processes.

Then again this whole thing has a "1984" vibe to it so it will just get memory holed.
 
I know this isn't the stocks thread but I'm wondering when the market correction will happen due to covid induced crunch. Not trying to tmi but I'm young enough the play is to ride the market win lose our draw, but I feel a 10k DJIA haircut is inevitable and want to move my shit to bonds now then get back in when its over. Any financial savy farmers got advice? I've read some blogs saying a crash is coming but they are all tied to institutions so they caveat with "don't take our forecast to pull your money out".
 
Maybe they don't admit it, just have Biden and his proxies in states' govts lockdown and enforce masks and then declare big victory?

Considering all the horrible things that has been going on in Europe over this scamdemic, they cannot just come out and admit, 'woopsidaisy!' I dont even know. hmmm

that was I was pondering early last year already. sunken cost is a hell of a thing, and now that they doubled down for so long, saying "teehee, we were wrong. sowwy!" is political suicide, if not literally depending how hard some individuals got fucked over and are out for blood.

Now the the Democrats control both the executive and legislative branches, I wonder if they might use the pandemic as a way to impose UBI like many in the party have discussed. It would sound plausible if they spun it as a way to help people replace the income they've lost over the past 10 months. However, I can see the party alllowing those payments to continue once they deem the pandemic over despite the price cost.

there won't be any UBI, I can guarantee you that. for the simple reason they can't afford it. "printer goes brrr" only works for so long, and even shorter with millions of illegals which would be eligible too, but don't pay taxes in return (they're dems after all).
at best you'll see the word thrown around, but either hardly anyone will get it since the requirements are unrealistic on purpose, or tied to some many deductions that it doesn't make any difference. so in practice completely meaningless.
UBI will forever be a pipe dream, as nice as it sounds on paper. same as communism.

otoh I really want them to crawl up their own ass so far they're seriously doing it. least this way shit will be over sooner rather than later.
 
This is what ive been saying earlier in the thread. I’d argue 30 cycles and above does not indicate communicable infection absent symptoms but this is a start.

Our methods in the US usually stop around 40, this would shave off a few positives in our place but not a ton.

A lot of this ‘asymptomatic’ nonsense is a real problem. Theres no data to suggest asymptomatic people are serious vectors of disease, theres no real way to distinguish them between false positives, and more than half of all covid testing is about catching these people when it’s debatable whether they need to be detected.

Before covid you would never diagnose a disease via pcr alone without correlated symptoms. At least not without a few repeats. We didn’t mass test healthy people via pcr for communicable diseases that caused visible illness before this so all the asymptomatic is all guesswork right now. Its new territory so its currently used in the most advantageous light.

Right now the advantage is not interpreting them as “cases”.
 
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