Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[PotatoSalad4711]

If "other doctors do not think her case is hopeless" then why do they not take her on in their covering hospitals? If they really thought she had a chance they would have let her be transfered to them.

Exactly. They can’t because their hospital decided “lol, no”. These doctors are probably barely one step above ambulance chasers. The only thing they could say is that a tracheostomy would help her breathe. Okay, what about her other issues?

I can’t help but laugh at the name “Texas Right to Life.” What about the right to die a dignified, peaceful death? What about being compassionate enough to put an end to constant suffering and what amounts to torture at this point?

A long time ago, I was watching a TV show and they discussed human euthanasia. One character said, “We treat dogs better!” And we do. As hard as it is to euthanize a beloved pet, we do it because we understand when they are in severe pain and slowly dying that it’s the best thing to do. I don’t understand why we don’t afford humans the same mercy.

I realize there is a line here. Obviously, a child is not a dog. However, after almost two(!) years of seeing your child in this state, wouldn’t you at least decide that enough is enough, and it doesn’t matter how much heartbreak you feel, it’s about what the child is going through?

 

[Android raptor]

Ugh, poor Tinslee. Let this girl finally have peace

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Powerlevel, but I'm a staunch pro-life gal myself. That said, in cases like these, I don't see a single reason how abortion isn't the more ethical choice. You either kill it before it can feel any pain, or you subject it to a lifetime of endless pain they have no way to comprehend. Pretty sure it's not playing God if God made our bodies have a method to murder the kid in utero if it's FUBAR. Just fixing a glitch God overlooked in our programming.

I had a debate with a fellow Catholic about this, and he kept insisting that you're supposed to carry it to term and then make it as comfortable as possible while it passes away. He had no response when I asked what happens if the baby doesn't pass away in a day or two. Apparently, letting your baby starve to death is the Based Catholic Way, and abortion is No No, Don't Be a Murderer. How is it a Catholic ideal to let a kid starve in absolute utter agony instead of aborting it?

My understanding of the Catholic stance is that you’re obligated to provide food, water, and painkillers, but not anything else, to the terminally ill. This is what Catholics have told me, anyway.

My issue with some pro life people on this issue is they’ll start saying things like ‘disabled people can live meaningful lives!’ but seemingly don’t understand that an anencephalic baby can’t. Also, no Catholic at any point in history before basically right now would’ve seen these babies and thought it was a gift from God.

Also I totally thought Tinslee was white until I saw that picture.

 

[mario if smoke weed]

Thanks to the Supreme Court, Tinslee Lewis has to continue her "life" of unending torment: (archive)



Here's a shitty updated picture of the poor spud, complete with angel wings, cat ears and a unicorn horn, proving that there's no torture that cannot be improved upon with some tasteless tat.

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Would God consider this to be narcistic torture? Because I would. Correct me if I'm wrong but they just seem to be keeping this kid alive for peace of mind, rather than for wellbeing.

 

[Android raptor]

Weren't Karen Ann Quilan's parents catholic, and that was something they specifically cited as to why they thought it was unnatural and cruel to keep her alive in a vegative state? I know religion seems to get cited as a reason to keep hopeless cases (like Tinslee) on life support, but that's one case where I remember hearing it cited as a reason for pulling the plug.

I don't get why prolifers hop on board trying to keep terminally ill, suffering kids alive. I don't get a lot of things they do, but that especially is weird since they otherwise tend to not give a single fuck about actual born kids otherwise.

As much as I rag on fundies with zombabies and shit, I do have to give credit where it's due in that at least most of them are fine providing only palliative care when the kids are born. Not all are like that (for example the Buells or Baby K's mom), but most of them seem to be.

 

[The-Mad-Asshatter]

Weren't Karen Ann Quilan's parents catholic, and that was something they specifically cited as to why they thought it was unnatural and cruel to keep her alive in a vegative state? I know religion seems to get cited as a reason to keep hopeless cases (like Tinslee) on life support, but that's one case where I remember hearing it cited as a reason for pulling the plug.

I don't get why prolifers hop on board trying to keep terminally ill, suffering kids alive. I don't get a lot of things they do, but that especially is weird since they otherwise tend to not give a single fuck about actual born kids otherwise.

As much as I rag on fundies with zombabies and shit, I do have to give credit where it's due in that at least most of them are fine providing only palliative care when the kids are born. Not all are like that (for example the Buells or Baby K's mom), but most of them seem to be.

I think with Catholics, 'pulling the plug' or offering palliative care is not considered killing, but just letting nature take it's course. I don't know much about the Tinslee case, but what conditions does she have that are terminal?

 

[Android raptor]

I think with Catholics, 'pulling the plug' or offering palliative care is not considered killing, but just letting nature take it's course. I don't know much about the Tinslee case, but what conditions does she have that are terminal?

I'm not an expert on the Tinslee case, but from what I understand she basically has a clusterfuck of conditions that when combined offer no hope of recovery and keep her in horrible pain. That's why the hospital wants to pull the plug, because the staff feels like all they're accomplishing is needlessly torturing a baby.

Supposedly her mom barely visits as well despite what she claims.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I'm not an expert on the Tinslee case, but from what I understand she basically has a clusterfuck of conditions that when combined offer no hope of recovery and keep her in horrible pain. That's why the hospital wants to pull the plug, because the staff feels like all they're accomplishing is needlessly torturing a baby.

Supposedly her mom barely visits as well despite what she claims.

She pretty much dies multiple times a day they call it cardiac crisis i beleive in the documents but simply moving her, changing her diaper, her being upset, random for no reason,, etc. will cause her to go into cardiac arrest and stop breathing. So they are full on resusitating this child multiple times a day.

 

[Muh Vagina]

Also I totally thought Tinslee was white until I saw that picture.

Same. That name screams white trash. And let's be honest, most of these potato babies are white.

 

[buttsniffer]

Black people are all about allowing the corpse of their loved ones being mechanically maintained. Just look at what they did to Whitney Houston's daughter.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Black people are all about allowing the corpse of their loved ones being mechanically maintained. Just look at what they did to Whitney Houston's daughter.

And Mama Nails, but black people are only like 13% of the US population so most taters will be white.

 

[Cakesniffer]

She seems to be here now:
https://mewe.com/join/kayliskrusade

I even downloaded the app.. nothing there .

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Tinslee ‘s mom petitioned to have Tinslee evaluated for malacia by a different dr but then withdrew the request. Not sure why. And I don’t think she can be moved because no one else would take her. Last year, the hospital reported that they had unsuccessfully approached more than 20 hospitals and children’s heart specialists. Those contacted all said the same thing., nothing can be done for Tinslee.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Would God consider this to be narcistic torture? Because I would. Correct me if I'm wrong but they just seem to be keeping this kid alive for peace of mind, rather than for wellbeing.

More like a piece of a government check, to me.

 

[Miss Misery]

Karen Ann Quinlan's parents were devout Catholics and they adopted her at birth from her unmarried Irish Catholic mother.

According to Wikipedia...

Catholic moral theology does not require that "extraordinary means" be employed to preserve a patient's life. Such means are any procedure which might place an undue burden on the patient, family, or others and would not result in reasonable hope of benefiting the patient. A person or a person's representative in cases if a person is not able to decide can refuse extraordinary means of treatment even if that will hasten natural death, and it is considered ethical.

It is to that principle that Quinlan's parents appealed when they requested that the extraordinary means of a ventilator be removed, citing a declaration by Pope Pius XII from 1957.

When Karen was removed from her respirator/ventilator in May 1976, she surprised many by continuing to breathe unaided. Her parents never sought to have her feeding tube removed. "We never asked to have her die. We just asked to have her put back in a natural state so she could die in God's time," Julia Quinlan said. She was moved to a nursing home. Karen was fed by artificial nutrition for nine more years until her death from respiratory failure June 11, 1985.

 

[MysticMisty]

Tinslee ‘s mom petitioned to have Tinslee evaluated for malacia by a different dr but then withdrew the request. Not sure why. And I don’t think she can be moved because no one else would take her. Last year, the hospital reported that they had unsuccessfully approached more than 20 hospitals and children’s heart specialists. Those contacted all said the same thing., nothing can be done for Tinslee.

They also very likely said no because the move itself would kill her. I mean, just changing her diaper makes her go into cardiac arrest and they have to revive her. If they have to revive her multiple times a day just from that alone, how can they even possibly move her to another hospital?

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

They also very likely said no because the move itself would kill her. I mean, just changing her diaper makes her go into cardiac arrest and they have to revive her. If they have to revive her multiple times a day just from that alone, how can they even possibly move her to another hospital?

I don’t understand why they keep “reviving” her or maybe I’m misunderstanding what’s going on.

If someone’s heart/breathing stops it’s a crap shoot whether resuscitation methods will even work to restore vitals. I’m not sure why the hospital staff wouldn’t just report that resuscitation attempt failed, I mean 1 out 10 times it likely would. Just don’t be so aggressive with resuscitation when the poor thing flat lines.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I don’t understand why they keep “reviving” her or maybe I’m misunderstanding what’s going on.

If someone’s heart/breathing stops it’s a crap shoot whether resuscitation methods will even work to restore vitals. I’m not sure why the hospital staff wouldn’t just report that resuscitation attempt failed, I mean 1 out 10 times it likely would. Just don’t be so aggressive with resuscitation when the poor thing flat lines.

unless she has a dnr, they have to resuscitate. It is against the law to not do so. Now because she is little, cpr for a child is easier. One handed vs two for an adult, with a baby, only two fingers. There’s no such thing as less aggressive. They HAVE to do it. If they don’t give it a full effort every time it wouldn’t be the correct way of doing cpr and that would lead to serious action.

you can’t just pick and choose what people to resuscitate and what people to half ass it on, wtf.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

unless she has a dnr, they have to resuscitate. It is against the law to not do so. Now because she is little, cpr for a child is easier. One handed vs two for an adult, with a baby, only two fingers. There’s no such thing as less aggressive. They HAVE to do it. If they don’t give it a full effort every time it wouldn’t be the correct way of doing cpr and that would lead to serious action.

you can’t just pick and choose what people to resuscitate and what people to half ass it on, wtf.

They aren’t doing CPR, the baby is on a ventilator ffs. She’d have been dead a long time ago if she relied on manual CPR to bring her back.

Reading more about it it seems sometimes they have to manually inflate her damaged lungs and if they didn’t she would die. So it seems whatever they are doing involves ensuring the ventilator keeps functioning. I was wondering if they were having to suction in some way to keep her from suffocating.

However, people can absolutely do a shit job of CPR if they don’t actually want to assist someone in cardiac arrest. In fact plenty of ppl just manage to break ribs doing shitty CPR rather than help expel air from the lungs. An experienced nurse could certainly pantomime a valiant CPR attempt if they wanted to and felt it was helping end the torture of someone.

 

[GenociderSyo]

The hospital stated in one of the press releases they were later made to remove cause the mother pulled a gag order on them that the crisis were cardiac in nature her heart would stop.