Insurrection 2021

[PaleTay]

Between this and the recent developments the past few weeks, I cannot tell if people here are doomposting or phosphating the future.

Either way, this is scaring me.

Don't worry, it will be worse than anyone can imagine.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

The capitol demonstration was pretty bad. They tried to overturn democracy because Trump lost.

Lol they didn't overturn anything. DC Police allowed them to wander the Capitol while shooting anyone that went near their precious senators and state ballots. A guy in horns sat on the "sacred chair". If there was a overturn people would've rushed the senate chamber and killed the personal protection of house committee. Dozens should've died in a real overturn, a real insurrection. This was just a LARP of QAnons.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Yeah, I bet the fuckhuge armed crowd storming the seat of government with shouts of hanging the vice president on their lips, stealing documents and PCs, with the expressed goal of "stopping the steal" were totally peaceful and had no bad or undemocratic intentions at all.
It's kind of amazing how people on this thread use the incompetence of these fuckers as a get-out-of-jail card while ignoring everything they did, just to suit their own narrative.

All we need at this point is someone using a right-wing version of "This terror attack has nothing to do with real Islam" and glancing at this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if that has already happened.

Keep the salt coming boys.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

Lol you were pretty upset in like every post around then, dude.

The capitol demonstration was pretty bad. They tried to overturn democracy because Trump lost.

Thank you, I couldn't be better. We finally have a president that isn't a manbaby

Manbaby versus an empty husk.


Mmmm I dunno who I should like more.

 

[I-chi]

Keep the salt coming boys.

Thousands of jobs killed overnight and looming energy independence crisis.
Getting ready to get us right back into Syria.
Forcing his own guardsmen to sleep in freezing parking garages - possibly til March - without any logistical support.
Skyrocketing Insulin availability through rollback of an EO.
Throwing his own prog supporters under the bus within hours.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Thousands of jobs killed overnight and looming energy independence crisis.
Getting ready to get us right back into Syria.
Forcing his own guardsmen to sleep in freezing parking garages - possibly til March - without any logistical support.
Skyrocketing Insulin availability through rollback of an EO.
Throwing his own prog supporters under the bus within hours.

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Nice strawman, this is about the Capitol and a shitload of armed rednecks yelling bloody murder storming it being absolved from their fucked up actions by literal excuses of their incompetence and a right-wing version of "They dindu nuffin, they was about turnin' their election around. I need mo' money fo' them supreme court lawyaz."

It's also kinda meta how that image applies more to you then it could ever apply to me. What reason should I have to be mad? If Biden fucks up, it's all the more reason for me to laugh at US politics, I have no stake in his Presidency and no interest whatsoever in whatever politics he's pushing or how successful he is with it.
If I point this out long enough, maybe some of you Americlaps will realize that I am an outside spectator to your nation's antics.

 

[I-chi]

Nice strawman, this is about the Capitol and a shitload of armed rednecks yelling bloody murder storming it being absolved from their fucked up actions by literal excuses of their incompetence and a right-wing version of "They dindu nuffin, they was about turnin' their election around. I need mo' money fo' them supreme court lawyaz."

It's also kinda meta how that image applies more to you then it could ever apply to me. What reason should I have to be mad? If Biden fucks up, it's all the more reason for me to laugh at US politics, I have no stake in his Presidency and no interest whatsoever in whatever politics he's pushing or how successful he is with it.
If I point this out long enough, maybe some of you Americlaps will realize that I am an outside spectator to your nation's antics.

Oh right, Eurofag, my mistake. In that case your opinion literally doesn't matter about anything relevant to our politics. Thank you for reminding me.

By the way, your apolitical funhouse site is never coming back either, get used to it.

 

[Keero]

Nice strawman, this is about the Capitol and a shitload of armed rednecks yelling bloody murder storming it being absolved from their fucked up actions by literal excuses of their incompetence and a right-wing version of "They dindu nuffin, they was about turnin' their election around. I need mo' money fo' them supreme court lawyaz."

How many of the rednecks were armed?

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

How many of the rednecks were armed?

Enough of them to count as an armed mob.

Oh right, Eurofag, my mistake. In that case your opinion literally doesn't matter about anything relevant to our politics. Thank you for reminding me.

Dunno, that's an awefully passive aggressive tone, considering that my opinions supposedly don't matter to you

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Enough of them to count as an armed mob.


Dunno, that's an awefully passive aggressive tone, considering that my opinions supposedly don't matter to you

Regardless, they still failed to cause any notable damage (from my understanding anyway). Like @Grandpa Simpson said, they were let in, any documents and such they got their hands on was of little value to them as they clearly cared more for the politicians' well being (hence that one woman getting shot dead). I wouldn't be surprised if they had back ups of all that shit stored for such a situation.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Regardless, they still failed to cause any notable damage (from my understanding anyway). Like @Grandpa Simpson said, they were let in, any documents and such they got their hands on was of little value to them as they clearly cared more for the politicians' well being (hence that one woman getting shot dead). I wouldn't be surprised if they had back ups of all that shit stored for such a situation.

Yes, and as I said: Their incompetence to achieve their goals is no excuse for their actions.

 

[Sanshain]

Yes, and as I said: Their incompetence to achieve their goals is no excuse for their actions.

What even were their goals? I've watched plenty of footage of the riots and I don't see any leaders, any serious motive and no organized effort to do anything significant beyond make lots of noise. This 'overturn democracy' thing is a pure fantasy. They were angry people venting their frustration at a corrupt system, not fucking masterminds attempting a coup. They were in the wrong, but they weren't any kind of existential threat to government at all, in any way. Hell, even if they'd literally burnt the White House to ashes while inside, what exactly would it have accomplished?

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

What even were their goals? I've watched plenty of footage of the riots and I don't see any leaders, any serious motive and no organized effort to do anything significant beyond make lots of noise.

"Stop the Steal", "Hang Mike Pence", ring any bell? The former is a specific goal that was the very reason why they gathered, the latter was a vitriolic slogan they chanted and we don't know how serious they were about that. But given the well-documented violence against cops, I doubt any actual encounter between the mob and Pence, Pelosi, McConnel et al. would have been just a fun chit-chat-time.

The whole thing had no "leader", but the Brownian movement of large groups of emotional and tardraging masses eventually let them blobb around and ultimately into the Capitol, where they chimped out and thrashed whatever place they could find without achieving anything.

I'll say it a third time: Bumbling incompetence is no excuse for what they did.

This 'overturn democracy' thing is a pure fantasy.

Their expressed goal was to "stop the steal" and to interfere with the democratic process of the USA. They did manage to create a hiccup, no lasting effect.
4th time now: Bumbling incompetence is not an excuse.

They were angry people venting their frustration at a corrupt system, not fucking masterminds attempting a coup.

No one in this thread has ever said they were "masterminds", what the fuck kind of red herring is that? To the contrary, they are seen as bumbling retards. And yeah, what do angry people venting their frustrations violently add up to, when you throw in a couple of politicians loathed by said angry people, who have shouted for the murder of at least one of those politicians?

They were in the wrong, but they weren't any kind of existential threat to government at all, in any way. Hell, even if they'd literally burnt the White House to ashes while inside, what exactly would it have accomplished?

Now for the 5th time hoping it'll stick eventually: Being a flock of bumbling retards is not an excuse and it does not diminish their goals that they failed due to utter idiocy and a lack of actual leadership.
Had they burned down the White House or Capitol, it would have made the USA look even more like a lolcow-nation than it already looks after the BLM riots and the pissweak reaction to them.

 

[Sanshain]

So basically thoughtcrime and extreme projection. You even admit they had no leader. You can't hang a single significant threat on them in any way, so you just get mad at how they were 'bumbling retards'. Lol, you just wish they'd accomplished something significant so you could jerk off to more destruction porn.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Thousands of jobs killed overnight and looming energy independence crisis.
Getting ready to get us right back into Syria.
Forcing his own guardsmen to sleep in freezing parking garages - possibly til March - without any logistical support.
Skyrocketing Insulin availability through rollback of an EO.
Throwing his own prog supporters under the bus within hours.

Guess you better rope yourself, then. Seriously, talk to your doctor about getting on some anti-anxiety or anti-depression meds.

Lest you forget, Trump's tariffs caused plenty of job losses and massive income pitfalls among the agriculture sector. How big? Pretty fucking big to necessitate these subsidies.

We mobilized lots of troops to fight ISIS after it cropped up from the Obama-era pullouts, and more broadly to continue to support islamist militias in Syria just the same as Obama had done. The failed state we've helped to create through massive Saudi arms deals in Yemen is going to draw us back into the region in a few years regardless, because the guy who unilaterally bombed a foreign official is not genuinely "anti-war."

The people in charge of logistics for the NG deployment were the same congressmen and representatives that have been in power for the last 20-30 years. Biden, not being president and thus outside of the chain of command, could only ask the other memorable swamp inhabitants for particulars. Don't take this as calling him blameless, take this as saying this is nothing new under the sun.

Prices skyrocketing from an delaying an EO that was published on December 23, 2020 and not scheduled to come into effect until January 22, 2021?

I don't know if you talk to many progressives, but only the really young and stupid ones thought Biden would deliver on a single item of his supposed "progressive" agenda. His various appointments are pretty well-understood to be empty paeans and gestures to appease bourgeois wokies and to agitate people whose impression of progressives is formed purely through conservative media. The people actually going for anti-intervention, for infrastructure, for universalized health-care, for trustbusting and regulation and so-on didn't think Biden would do a thing for them, just felt that he'd be better than Trump.

So basically thoughtcrime

No, those guys are getting prosecuted under the terms of the USC. He's more than a little insufferable as a person, but the charges that Legal Eagle outlines here are correct.

You can't hang a single significant threat on them in any way,

Representatives and Senators can be beat to death with a flagpole, as can most people. While not every person clamboring there like a moron was armed, there have been significant numbers of weapons seized. You do not need premeditation to be in violation of many US laws regarding breaking into government buildings with intent to harm elected officials. Footage of people saying real stupid shit in the open and obvious, with nothing to obscure their face, is being used to sink these charges.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

So basically thoughtcrime and extreme projection.

At the top of my head: Breaking into a seat of power, attacking the police, assault with a weapon, dangerous gas unlawful release, murder (or at least manslaughter), property damage, vandalism, theft. In what kind of magic wonderland do you live where none of this is a felony?
More than 50 cops got injured, one died.
Edit, cause I forgot: Some asshole put down pipebombs.

And you call that thoughtcrime and projection?

Stop bleating this self-victimization narrative, you've become indistinguishable from BLM enablers, mate.

You even admit they had no leader.

I guess that's a relevant aspect on your planet. But your weak link is, this is Earth.
yes, I like that quote

You can't hang a single significant threat on them in any way, so you just get mad at how they were 'bumbling retards'.

See above and have your pick.

 

[DeadFish]

What even were their goals? I've watched plenty of footage of the riots and I don't see any leaders, any serious motive and no organized effort to do anything significant beyond make lots of noise. This 'overturn democracy' thing is a pure fantasy. They were angry people venting their frustration at a corrupt system, not fucking masterminds attempting a coup. They were in the wrong, but they weren't any kind of existential threat to government at all, in any way. Hell, even if they'd literally burnt the White House to ashes while inside, what exactly would it have accomplished?

It would scare the ivy bloods shitless

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

Keep the salt coming boys.

Go back to liking and sharing LeftyPol memes on your ANTIFA Facebook grou...

...oh wait, nevermind. lol

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Go back to liking and sharing LeftyPol memes on your ANTIFA Facebook grou...

...oh wait, nevermind. lol

I have literally no idea what you're blabbering on about... But it's endemic for this board, that anyone not shouting along with the buzzwords is seen as a BLM supporter or Antifasperg.
Funny how KF as a whole was trashtalking the left for years for their attitude of "you're either with us, or you're with the fascists" and now the right-wing spergs repeat that mantra the other way around.

And the funniest bit: They don't even fucking realize it.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Lol they didn't overturn anything. DC Police allowed them to wander the Capitol while shooting anyone that went near their precious senators and state ballots. A guy in horns sat on the "sacred chair". If there was a overturn people would've rushed the senate chamber and killed the personal protection of house committee. Dozens should've died in a real overturn, a real insurrection. This was just a LARP of QAnons.

Funny because the FBI disagrees with you on that one. But I am sure you know more about it than they do