I Worked On A Right Friendly Social Media Network. It Unsurprisingly Crashed And Burned Immediately.

[Johan Schmidt]

No True Scotsman.

Crying fallacy is midwit tier talk.

Libertarians aren't right wing. They're liberals that want a 60's fantasy world that never actually existed. It's not a lolitical stance, it's crying "leave me alone!!" And waving your hands in the air because you live in a soiety and can't just eat cheeseburgrs, smoke cigars and shoot your M16 while hoping the people in charge act nice to you.

Libertarianism is a political stance that literally exists to undermine every other political stance by sheer proximity retardation.

 

[wry wrangler]

Crying fallacy is midwit tier talk.

Libertarians aren't right wing. They're liberals that want a 60's fantasy world that never actually existed. It's not a lolitical stance, it's crying "leave me alone!!" And waving your hands in the air because you live in a soiety and can't just eat cheeseburgrs, smoke cigars and shoot your M16 while hoping the people in charge act nice to you.

Libertarianism is a political stance that literally exists to undermine every other political stance by sheer proximity retardation.

Employing fallcy is subwit tier talk.

It must be very convenient to live in a world where you get to selectively reject that which is politically inconvenient while also denying anyone else that very convenience. Any time a left winger (or someone you identify as left wing) does something untoward, you get to colour them all with the same brush. Yet, you get to reject whichever elements of the right wing you deem not truly right wing so that the real right wing is perfect in every way.

The guys who stormed the capitol probably weren't truly right wing either, nor the neo-nazis at Charlottesville, nor the lobbyist types who work to undermine every attempt at reining in their excess. Explain away and keep redefining terms until the only true Scotsman in the world is you.

No True Scotsman. Boring. Totally not a cope.

 

[TFT-A9]

I'm getting pretty pissed at the Right's outright refusal to adapt and meet what has gone from being a challenge to an outright threat. I have crazies on my left and fucking morons on my right.

 

[b0o0pinsn0o0tz]

I'm getting pretty pissed at the Right's outright refusal to adapt and meet what has gone from being a challenge to an outright threat. I have crazies on my left and fucking morons on my right.

I have bad news fren it'll keep going like this until the right loses it's shit and [fedpost redacted]. How about you sit back and have a few beers to numb the insanity with me in the meantime?

 

[Terrorist]

Your problems with leftists came from inviting leftists. That bright idea probably came from naive finance bros who have more money than sense and don’t know how internet social dynamics or political discourse have worked for the past decade or so.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Employing fallcy is subwit tier talk.

It must be very convenient to live in a world where you get to selectively reject that which is politically inconvenient while also denying anyone else that very convenience. Any time a left winger (or someone you identify as left wing) does something untoward, you get to colour them all with the same brush. Yet, you get to reject whichever elements of the right wing you deem not truly right wing so that the real right wing is perfect in every way.

The guys who stormed the capitol probably weren't truly right wing either, nor the neo-nazis at Charlottesville, nor the lobbyist types who work to undermine every attempt at reining in their excess. Explain away and keep redefining terms until the only true Scotsman in the world is you.

No True Scotsman. Boring. Totally not a cope.

No they were right wing. Libertarians are literally just liberals that don't agree with the 'SJW' stuff. Qtards, MAGA people, Atomwaffe morons, etc are all right wing. Capitol guys were pretty right wing as well. It's not about whether they look good or bad it's the policy and outcome they want.

Libertarians just want a fantasy version of liberalism that never really existed.

 

[Plank]

I'm getting pretty pissed at the Right's outright refusal to adapt and meet what has gone from being a challenge to an outright threat. I have crazies on my left and fucking morons on my right.

IMO the fundamental problem for the Right is their continued belief that the Left will ever stop.

The purity spirals never stop.
The circular firing squads never stop.
The killing fields never stop.
The reeducation camps never stop.

The Right continues to believe that if they abandon someone to the Left that they will be appeased when in reality it just feeds their desire and justification for more.

That is why I believe that the only way to effective fight against the lunatic Left is by using their own tactics against them no matter how unpleasant that might be. Make the game the Left plays un-winnable and clear that everyone is going to lose - not just the Right. Leave the only option for everyone being some sort of online détente.

 

[Bob Barker]

• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.

Any organization that is not explicitly and intentionally right wing...

• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'

... sooner or later becomes left wing.

 

[Dangerously Gay Llama]

Do you mean actually right wing or do you mean lolbertarian? It sounds like you mean lolbertarian.

You can't 'use the lefts tactics' against them. There's not enough sad bastards with enough time to devote to admining a niche internet forum. You literally need to build from the ground up with the intention of shutting the left out.

'Free speech' is not going to save you, it will never save you; the 'right' (As in trumptards and their kind) need to stop trying the free speech angle. No one cares, no one has ever cared, no one will ever care about your speech. Most everyone will happily shut you down and agree with each other you need to be shut down because your're mean. Social media sites are dead ends unless they aggressively and vigorously police themselves against anyone left of Trump.

EDIT: What the right 'needs to face' is that the left hates them. Not in a 'man these guys on the right irk me' but as in they literally want you unable to have a functional life and no you will not do anything. The gun LARP holds you back, the '1776 again!!!' call is a LARP; it's a safety blanket you put up because the reality is that you are literally facing the entire material wealth of the western world arrayed against you with the intention of reducing you to a number on a spreadsheet. They don't want you dead, they want you deracinated, living wage to wage and buying the salsa. They will give you a million varieties of salsa to munch down on, but you will be required to buy at least one.

Guns will not save you, weapons will not save you, your camo bag, your ham radio, and your bug out den will not save you. You are an individual facing a collective with a combined might of trillions of dollars, 99% control of the media that most of the population sees and a unified desire to see you lose. Not 'have a fair election' or 'have a debate'. Lose, flat out and on all levels.

You cannot win on their systems, stop trying. The only way to fight a collective is to be a collective. You can cry and moan and bitch and whinge about 'individual liberty' and 'freedom' all you want; no one cares. Move away from the cities if you can, find groups of people to move with; form a community, aggressively police that community against people who are not like you. The government will ship in fifty buses of somalians because they hate you; exclude the somalians. The only way you win this is by convincing more whites (and yes this is a racial struggle, if you disagree then you are not on the right. No this is not a debate.) to join their own side than sit by and do nothing. Your enemy relies on the passivity of the population.

The only methods we have to fight back are by engaging in 'meta-politics' by trying to get our talking points into the mainstream consciousness; and by forming our own exclusionary communities. Buy from each other, accept money from strangers; keep the wealth within your community and use it to improve your community. If you try and fight the government with force then you will be shot by the fed boys, dumped in a ditch and your house will be burnt down while everyone else (even your friends and family) cheers on your death as 'a scary terrorist died!'; and your legacy will be a shitty HBO miniseries where they imply you were gay for a nigger, and a 4chan tard fedposting a picture of you with a black sun behind your head.

Crying fallacy is midwit tier talk.

Libertarians aren't right wing. They're liberals that want a 60's fantasy world that never actually existed. It's not a lolitical stance, it's crying "leave me alone!!" And waving your hands in the air because you live in a soiety and can't just eat cheeseburgrs, smoke cigars and shoot your M16 while hoping the people in charge act nice to you.

Libertarianism is a political stance that literally exists to undermine every other political stance by sheer proximity retardation.

No they were right wing. Libertarians are literally just liberals that don't agree with the 'SJW' stuff. Qtards, MAGA people, Atomwaffe morons, etc are all right wing. Capitol guys were pretty right wing as well. It's not about whether they look good or bad it's the policy and outcome they want.

Libertarians just want a fantasy version of liberalism that never really existed.

sneed

 

[Johan Schmidt]

sneed

Feed

 

[NJBear]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

Did you ever think that some of the "Nazis" are left trolls? Yes, White Nationalists are a cancer and anti White. They only care about their fetish knowing full well they are useful idiots for the anti Whites.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Another example of just how well the crazies on the Left have their shit together.

There was an effort to let the community be involved with some cosmetic choices for the site. Volunteers were called for to create an informal group to solicit feedback and come up with options.

The groups was immediately filled with mostly your typical SJW activist types eager to jump on even the slight bit of bureaucratic authority. They started combing through people who volunteered social media history and found that one of them had something 'problematic'. They 'kicked' her out even though there was no actual group membership or authority. But they just went right ahead and acted like they had that authority.

They then went on to draft some standard SJW type diversity statement and demanded that their positions were made into permanent paid cultural sensitivity enforcers.

The whole network crashed and burned before that bit of drama managed to unfold.

As to porn, the 3rd Reich, right vs libertarian in the comments above. I'm not trying to be precise with my labels. The only point I am making is just how FUCKING STUPID AND IMPOTENT the Right is when it comes to any sort of social networking.

Yes, in my personal opinion, the highest quality posters were middle right university types. And the left was dominated by SJW/identity politics university types spewing word salads about systemic racism and the like.

But just from a purely high level view of the two groups, the Right are utterly clueless in how to effectively combat the Left's tactics.

It is time for the Right to get a clue and go head to head with the Left's tactics so that there is some sort of mutually assured destruction for both sides and people can actually spend time online having real debates about important issues.

You know, it's not like there is a real shortage on the right of being aware of that.

The fact that leftie retards have their shit together and form their self-assembling diversity charter, is because every university in the world is delivering classes of trained culture warriors each year. They don't have much job prospects, but that is a feature, not a bug.

I'm not saying everybody who graduates is. But from gender studies to humanism to sociology, there are whole groups of fields that almost exclusively deliver culture warriors.

And don't forget, they often also use false flags to implicate their enemies.

And real debates? The time for debates ended about 15 years ago. As soon as the left gained hegemony there was no interest in free speech or debate anymore. And if the right ever manuages to worm their way back into power, then they'll have learned to not care about free speech for the left either.

As for the right needing to train culture warriors better? Yeah, no shit. There is no infrastructure.

If I start some gender group, I get free air time, free tv coverage, free documentaries and radio and books coverage. I've seen it in action. If I start anything right aligned I get harassment, deplatforming, possibly even fines. The game is very much rigged.

 

[draggs]

He probably doesn't want to get doxxed. Given how anyone can lurk or browse most sections of these forums, that is understandable.

Oh yes that is definitely why

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The problem with the OP is that the mindset of the average leftie Social Media user is completely different to the average right wing user. The leftists use Social Media "to win" and a good chunk of them are entitled slug people with nothing better to do than waste their life getting their asspats (and if they are journos/influencers it's their literal job). The right wingers have a job and kids and would just want their friends to see their normie memes. So of course the slug people will worm their way into every public position, because they are the only ones who care and think Social Media is a battlefield.
Trying to appeal to free speech absolutists is also a dumb move - the movement will always be plagued by sick people who just want to spew their garbage and couldn't give less of a shit about the platform, so they won't waste their time moderating (not to mention the big risk of putting yourself on a pedestal to get into the sights of the slug people). Finally, they'll always be called hypocrites because some moderation is legally obligated.

Want a right wing social media? Make a twitter clone with few extra features and a statement you'll ban hate speech from the right and the left equally, make it so to he algorithm will react the same way if you change white to black or vice versa, do not have any public moderator role, make importing profile and friends retardedly easy, and most importantly, organize ALL right wing personalities to quit Twitter completely and move wholesale to the new media network. The temporary loss of exposure is far better than having your words edited and manipuated.

 

[cybertoaster]

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory

Congratulations you found out why gamergate failed

The western left lacks leaders and more importantly lacks fucking discipline, they cant follow a fucking order or a plan. Meanwhile the pseudo-left (sjws, wokes, all that shit) will suck the dick of the great leader as he decapitates their children with a rusty knife

That should have been a wake up call that they didn't have a fucking clue on how to play the social media game effectively and that it is time to learn the Left's highly effective tactics and use them against them.

Your site already made a big mistake by even letting sjws to exist there. The moment you get an sjw you ban them, permanently. Any invites or people that follows them should be banned as well if they have but a hint of sjwness

There are a few leftists sites left standing that are old-left/anti-sjw, you know how? because they do what I just fucking said

You can't 'use the lefts tactics' against them. There's not enough sad bastards with enough time to devote to admining a niche internet forum. You literally need to build from the ground up with the intention of shutting the left out.

'Free speech' is not going to save you, it will never save you; the 'right' (As in trumptards and their kind) need to stop trying the free speech angle. No one cares, no one has ever cared, no one will ever care about your speech. Most everyone will happily shut you down and agree with each other you need to be shut down because your're mean. Social media sites are dead ends unless they aggressively and vigorously police themselves against anyone left of Trump.

EDIT: What the right 'needs to face' is that the left hates them. Not in a 'man these guys on the right irk me' but as in they literally want you unable to have a functional life and no you will not do anything. The gun LARP holds you back, the '1776 again!!!' call is a LARP; it's a safety blanket you put up because the reality is that you are literally facing the entire material wealth of the western world arrayed against you with the intention of reducing you to a number on a spreadsheet. They don't want you dead, they want you deracinated, living wage to wage and buying the salsa. They will give you a million varieties of salsa to munch down on, but you will be required to buy at least one.

Guns will not save you, weapons will not save you, your camo bag, your ham radio, and your bug out den will not save you. You are an individual facing a collective with a combined might of trillions of dollars, 99% control of the media that most of the population sees and a unified desire to see you lose. Not 'have a fair election' or 'have a debate'. Lose, flat out and on all levels.

You cannot win on their systems, stop trying. The only way to fight a collective is to be a collective. You can cry and moan and bitch and whinge about 'individual liberty' and 'freedom' all you want; no one cares. Move away from the cities if you can, find groups of people to move with; form a community, aggressively police that community against people who are not like you. The government will ship in fifty buses of somalians because they hate you; exclude the somalians. The only way you win this is by convincing more whites (and yes this is a racial struggle, if you disagree then you are not on the right. No this is not a debate.) to join their own side than sit by and do nothing. Your enemy relies on the passivity of the population.

The only methods we have to fight back are by engaging in 'meta-politics' by trying to get our talking points into the mainstream consciousness; and by forming our own exclusionary communities. Buy from each other, accept money from strangers; keep the wealth within your community and use it to improve your community. If you try and fight the government with force then you will be shot by the fed boys, dumped in a ditch and your house will be burnt down while everyone else (even your friends and family) cheers on your death as 'a scary terrorist died!'; and your legacy will be a shitty HBO miniseries where they imply you were gay for a nigger, and a 4chan tard fedposting a picture of you with a black sun behind your head.

You are right in that the sjws want you dead

But your strategies are shit, your new community is gonna get waco'd by the feds for doing that shit

 

[Fatrick Hamlinson]

That is why I believe that the only way to effective fight against the lunatic Left is by using their own tactics against them no matter how unpleasant that might be

That contradicts what you were claiming with your first post. You claimed that those "bad" right-wing users were just too nasty and antisemitic. The left shitposts too, and they do so with impunity - or at least, they could while they supported the establishment. The problem isn't with right or left - it's with the power base that has been in place for decades. Neocon or neoliberal, it doesn't matter: maintaining a chokehold on Western nations using various tools, such as the War on Terror, is what matters to the people in charge.

So, is anyone going to ask for evidence this isn't just QAnon 2.0 writing fanfiction that conveniently reflects what most users here believe about both sides of the political divide?

I echo this.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Congratulations you found out why gamergate failed

The western left lacks leaders and more importantly lacks fucking discipline, they cant follow a fucking order or a plan. Meanwhile the pseudo-left (sjws, wokes, all that shit) will suck the dick of the great leader as he decapitates their children with a rusty knife

Your site already made a big mistake by even letting sjws to exist there. The moment you get an sjw you ban them, permanently. Any invites or people that follows them should be banned as well if they have but a hint of sjwness

There are a few leftists sites left standing that are old-left/anti-sjw, you know how? because they do what I just fucking said

You are right in that the sjws want you dead

But your strategies are shit, your new community is gonna get waco'd by the feds for doing that shit

What's the alternative? You can't fight back; you'll lose.

The only realistic way is to try and get your talking points into mainstream politics and the only way to do that is via community building.

Or there is no way and we're fucked; which is possible.

 

[cybertoaster]

What's the alternative? You can't fight back; you'll lose.

The only realistic way is to try and get your talking points into mainstream politics and the only way to do that is via community building.

Or there is no way and we're fucked; which is possible.

Lone wolf assassinations on minecraft?, call me a glowie if you want but even mcveight realized he should have gone for the FBI agents he wanted dead on an individual basis rather than blowing an entire building like a retard

The far-left did this a lot in europe and latin america during the 70s and 80s. Small groups sometimes individuals would go and kill some businessman or lowlevel government guy. Sometimes just a civilian that pissed them off, read on the RAF there are plenty of examples and it worked since many of those terrorists are, I shit you not, part of the current sjw government in those countries

You could right now look up the address of some far-left journo or other important sjw near you, on minecraft, tail them, on minecraft, and bash their brains out, on minecraft. Odds are nobody would find out you did it in minecraft but if you keep doing this in minecraft they are gonna get very scared, specially if any imitators pop up in other places, of minecraft. You cant give every journo, sjw or shill cop protection, not even to every politician in the country, most walk around alone, in minecraft

Or instead you can join a right-wing community which I guarantee will be full of feds waiting to get you inside a gas chamber

 

[Syaoran Li]

Lone wolf assassinations on minecraft?, call me a glowie if you want but even mcveight realized he should have gone for the FBI agents he wanted dead on an individual basis rather than blowing an entire building like a retard

The far-left did this a lot in europe and latin america during the 70s and 80s. Small groups sometimes individuals would go and kill some businessman or lowlevel government guy. Sometimes just a civilian that pissed them off, read on the RAF there are plenty of examples and it worked since many of those terrorists are, I shit you not, part of the current sjw government in those countries

You could right now look up the address of some far-left journo or other important sjw near you, on minecraft, tail them, on minecraft, and bash their brains out, on minecraft. Odds are nobody would find out you did it in minecraft but if you keep doing this in minecraft they are gonna get very scared, specially if any imitators pop up in other places, of minecraft. You cant give every journo, sjw or shill cop protection, not even to every politician in the country, most walk around alone, in minecraft

Or instead you can join a right-wing community which I guarantee will be full of feds waiting to get you inside a gas chamber

Yeah, but the forensic technologies and techniques in the 70's and 80's weren't anywhere near as advanced as they are now.

There's no use fighting back in Minecraft or in any other game of any kind, especially if it involves anything felonious.

The game was rigged from the start. Don't be a moron.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

There's a class element to this that I'm probably too sleepy to be writing about right now, but I think what you outline in this potentially-maybe-happened story is similar to what you'll find just about anywhere there is a power structure in place - with a catch: the morons born into wealth almost instinctively shoot for bureaucratic power and influence given its usefulness to self-promotion, whereas the useful idiots who are poor seek instead just to be 'validated,' and pursue positions of power as a means of making themselves 'valid.'

Both of these forms of activity are, in essence, a replacement for working hard or creating or accomplishing something. And I want to call attention to this because there's this talk of bolsheviks and other bourgeois revolutionaries about: there is a difference. The Bolsheviks had real conviction, even if their ideas were retarded, and while there's no doubt whatsoever that they were in it for self-promotion, there was also a grand scheme in mind of theirs of revolutionizing the world, of their ideas being preeminent and rising above and so-on and so-forth. The books and philosophy that the lefty folks seem to be drawn to comes from... well, people who wrote, who -did- something in that regard, who created something (even if, as is the case of Marx, they did very very little otherwise).

This new version is odd. It doesn't -do- anything. It manages shit, and it promotes its own image. It doesn't really believe in anything, beyond a simplistic and single-minded selfishness expressing itself in different forms stratified by class. Since it doesn't need to cram its brain with anything useful, as it has no desire to create, it can just sit there, endlessly, trying to curate or control or micromanage or so-on. It isn't a new phenomenon - as far as my brain knows, Orwell ID'd it in Road to Wigan Pier when discussing why he hated the at-the-time champagne socialists - but it is definitely made all the more obvious because of how social media primarily rewards people who... social media for a living.