I Worked On A Right Friendly Social Media Network. It Unsurprisingly Crashed And Burned Immediately.

Lemmingwise said:
You know, it's not like there is a real shortage on the right of being aware of that.

The fact that leftie retards have their shit together and form their self-assembling diversity charter, is because every university in the world is delivering classes of trained culture warriors each year. They don't have much job prospects, but that is a feature, not a bug.

I'm not saying everybody who graduates is. But from gender studies to humanism to sociology, there are whole groups of fields that almost exclusively deliver culture warriors.
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Yes, but at the same time much of what I saw firsthand has been known for some time now. And yet, tens of millions on the right have continued to use these very same platforms that are eagerly looking to remove them from the public space or completely silence them.

I know the compulsion to be part of the largest social network sites is tremendous for the average person and no one wants to be left out of where everyone is spending every day participating in, but the Right has been essentially enabling/funding their very one extinction in the social media space for the past few years.
 
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Plank said:
Yes, but at the same time much of what I saw firsthand has been known for some time now. And yet, tens of millions on the right have continued to use these very same platforms that are eagerly looking to remove them from the public space or completely silence them.

I know the compulsion to be part of the largest social network sites is tremendous for the average person and no one wants to be left out of where everyone is spending every day participating in, but the Right has been essentially enabling/funding their very one extinction in the social media space for the past few years.
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Because there is not other option. Social media is the primary source of information for the vast majority of the population and whoever controls the information on them controls the population. So even if they know joining these sites is pointless, it's the only way they can possibly spread their ideology in a way competitive with the left. In short, they're already effectively extinct, they're just being kept around by the left so that they have an enemy they can point to.
 
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Dude look at your sample bias. The only right wing people on the site were the ones that were SO far out there and SO dumb that they got banned from every other platform in existence. I can only assume that they came to you after they ran out of all other options.

As for my more conspiratorial side, I do think some of the lefty infiltrators are being paid to specifically ruin sites like that. They come in in waves with JOB LEVEL FOCUS to shit things up in an organized manner. I don't believe that's organic at all.
 
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Dude look at your sample bias. The only right wing people on the site were the ones that were SO far out there and SO dumb that they got banned from every other platform in existence. I can only assume that they came to you after they ran out of all other options.

As for my more conspiratorial side, I do think some of the lefty infiltrators are being paid to specifically ruin sites like that. They come in in waves with JOB LEVEL FOCUS to shit things up in an organized manner. I don't believe that's organic at all.
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At this point it is a safe assumption that any online "public venue" is a honeypot either by design or soon after the fact due to entryism and the usual fuckery so post potentially controversial opinions anywhere online at your own risk, because SOMEONE is watching.

Also to add to that point, if anybody asks you for your opinion on anything even remotely political assume you are being solicited for a knife that will find its home in your back.
 
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Plank said:
Bulletpoints:
  • Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
  • Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
  • People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
  • Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
  • The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
  • A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
  • The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.
  • No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
  • Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
  • An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
  • Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
  • And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
  • The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:
  • The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
  • The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.
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  • No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
Almost like conservatives are mentally ill enemies to society or something.
 
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Plank said:
Bulletpoints:
  • Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
  • Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
  • People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
  • Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
  • The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
  • A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
  • The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.
  • No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
  • Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
  • An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
  • Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
  • And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
  • The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:
  • The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
  • The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.
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Alternative is to have a shitposting autism pit half and a functioning human half
 
Rusty Crab said:
Dude look at your sample bias. The only right wing people on the site were the ones that were SO far out there and SO dumb that they got banned from every other platform in existence. I can only assume that they came to you after they ran out of all other options.
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The site was private and all the people were a combination of academics and non-academics sent invites that was created by the founders.

Freebirth Toad said:
At this point it is a safe assumption that any online "public venue" is a honeypot either by design or soon after the fact due to entryism and the usual fuckery so post potentially controversial opinions anywhere online at your own risk, because SOMEONE is watching.
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I don't have any personal knowledge of what you are describing, but our site we most certainly weren't. For us it was clear that there is a huge, informal network the Left runs - chat room and other forms of back channel communications where they mobilize.

Purely supposition on my part but I got the feeling that there was almost a feeling of panic in the response to our platform because it wasn't explicitly controlled by the Left it had to be either captured or taken down. Very much like guard towers surrounding a prison that sprung to action for anyone trying to leave the prison.
 
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I was thinking about this today.

I do believe @Plank it just sounds authentic to me and mirrors my experiences.

It's kinda like the left are the romans, and the right are germanic tribes. You pick any rando on each side, and 4 times out of 5 the barbarian will be able to beat them in single combat (debate/discussion).

But the romans are organized, statebacked, trained to fight together. The barbarians are uncouth, plan poorly and nowhere near organised or funded in comparable ways.

Romans end up winning eventually.

Well until they fold under their own corruptuon and barbatians loo their capital.

Plank said:
The site was private and all the people were a combination of academics and non-academics sent invites that was created by the founders.
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Can I get a sense of scale? Hundreds of people? Thousands?
 
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Xarpho said:
He temporarily shut down registrations after the 1/6 events on the basis of "no political refugees". Shutting down the borders was probably the best as it could invite in more shills, feds, and bad actors (all of which would be detrimental to the forums) but the way it was phrased it sounded like he didn't want any more right-leaning members.
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He just didn't want more violence-posters who would get the glowing ones breathing down his neck. During the last days of the Trump administration, TheDonald was full of people talking about things like murder. Right wing social media refugees would have been likely to bring that kind of behavior with them.

Plank said:
I wasn't part of any meetings in person or email. The reason I became aware of it was the founders were shocked enough by it that it became a topic of conversation with everyone working on the project.
The founders were very much of the mindset of why are we, the good guys, getting these warnings and not very veiled threats?

I am sure that working with Null is something the founders would not only have no interest in, they would be extremely upset if anyone even suggested it to them. They with all seriousness wanted to be a social network that was 100 percent legitimate. Absolutely nothing where the servers needed to hidden or protected from attack. Or secret crypto need to be used to avoid banking and finance attacks.
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Any idea which group it was? What do you think would have happened if they didn't give in to the threats, fines?

Johan Schmidt said:
You cannot win on their systems, stop trying. The only way to fight a collective is to be a collective. You can cry and moan and bitch and whinge about 'individual liberty' and 'freedom' all you want; no one cares. Move away from the cities if you can, find groups of people to move with; form a community, aggressively police that community against people who are not like you. The government will ship in fifty buses of somalians because they hate you; exclude the somalians. The only way you win this is by convincing more whites (and yes this is a racial struggle, if you disagree then you are not on the right. No this is not a debate.) to join their own side than sit by and do nothing. Your enemy relies on the passivity of the population.

The only methods we have to fight back are by engaging in 'meta-politics' by trying to get our talking points into the mainstream consciousness; and by forming our own exclusionary communities. Buy from each other, accept money from strangers; keep the wealth within your community and use it to improve your community. If you try and fight the government with force then you will be shot by the fed boys, dumped in a ditch and your house will be burnt down while everyone else (even your friends and family) cheers on your death as 'a scary terrorist died!'; and your legacy will be a shitty HBO miniseries where they imply you were gay for a nigger, and a 4chan tard fedposting a picture of you with a black sun behind your head.
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I like this plan. Make insular communities like old school jews. It is absolutely a good first step, you just need to make sure to tolerate zero malarkey and kick out anyone who might want to emulate Brenton Tarrant. Violent extremists would have the potential to bring the community crashing down.
 
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Niggernerd said:
Maybe stop trying to make a social media site based on political leanings and just let people shitpost whilst only moderating (i.e. banning) degenerates trying to post child porn and politispergs.
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You realize Null had people trying to deplatform him before the politisperging began, right? The left doesn't care if your site is about politics or not. NeoGAF is supposed to be about videogames and look at what it's become. Mumsnet is supposed to be about parenting but they've still gotten threats because some users are not on board with transgenderism.
 
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Plank said:
Bulletpoints:
  • Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
  • Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
  • People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
  • Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
  • The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
  • A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
  • The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.
  • No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
  • Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
  • An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
  • Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
  • And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
  • The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:
  • The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
  • The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.
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As someone who enjoys the more free-for-all shitshow environments of Gab and Bitchute over the soulless, joyless corporate landscape of big tech... this is why the right always loses. Strategy and organization are shitty to nonexistent. Meanwhile, on the other side it's basically second nature. It's ironic. Leftie bastards tend to all hate and backstab each other constantly, yet they're much better at actually working with each other towards a common goal.
 
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