Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Chinese Government Defends their Foreign Assets​

 

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Looks like the CCP will dislike that parody clip about 3GD.

 

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China bans journalists from reporting on ‘we media’​

China has embarked on a massive crackdown against journalists who use self-media to spread information, amid tightened media censorship.

The measure is part of the annual renewal of press credentials for media workers, said the National Press and Publication Administration (NPPA) in a directive published on Jan. 19. Individuals working at newspapers, broadcasting companies, TV stations, news websites, and news production studios are subject to the campaign, which takes place from Jan. 20 through March 19.

Self media is publishing on independently operated social media accounts — using platforms such as WeChat, Weibo — and the campaign involves looking for violations such as publishing work-related information on such media accounts. Spreading disinformation or fake news, creating news for personal gain, and moonlighting for jobs associated with journalism are also outlawed, according to the notice.

In a Monday (Jan. 25) article, Hong Kong newspaper Ming Pao suggests that changes to how people access information have propelled Chinese journalists to resort to "we-media" — referring to online news sources operated by individuals or collectives, often amateurs. The trend also reflects the need to find an outlet to publish news and express views amid ever stricter control of news content from the authorities.

Beijing has launched similar initiatives to muzzle the freedom of speech online. In October 2020, the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) said it would clamp down on internet browsers in a “rectification effort” to address what it called social concerns stemming from information published online, wrote Reuters.

 

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At the main Corona-chan thread, someone mentionned debts and I saw that video where we should take with a pinch of salt and a cautious eye about China's massive debt.

If their debt is really so massive, they should stop to built empty cities for a moment.

 

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At the main Corona-chan thread, someone mentionned debts and I saw that video where we should take with a pinch of salt and a cautious eye about China's massive debt.

If their debt is really so massive, they should stop to built empty cities for a moment.

But building massive useless cities is the only way China can stroke its egoboner for infinite unrealistic economic growth! Why would they ever stop?

 

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For how long

 

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For how long

Fundamental question is how much of this is like Obama’s ‘red lines’ where he talked tough and then did
nothing.

 

[Donker]

You guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if you're posting China in Focus, Taiwannews and Styx... like it's not even that hard to find credible anti-China sources that aren't Falun Gong nutters, Bannon stooges, or shitty tabloids that believe in garbage like Trump's election fraud conspiracies, how Coronavirus is a bio-weapon, or that the Three Gorges Dam is going to break any day now!

This entire thread is just hilarious American projection and cope. I mean, people in this thread literally believe that Falun Gong, a Scientology+Hyperethnonationalistic tier cult that thinks that eating Tiger (and any other endangered animal) penis can cure HIV and Cancer and people can fly if they just believe hard enough would be a better Government than the, highly competent and technocratic CCP.

 

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This entire thread is just hilarious American projection and cope. I mean, people in this thread literally believe that Falun Gong, a Scientology+Hyperethnonationalistic tier cult that thinks that eating Tiger (and any other endangered animal) penis can cure HIV and Cancer and people can fly if they just believe hard enough would be a better Government than the, highly competent and technocratic CCP.

Even ignoring all your other bullshit, how can you seriously claim the CCP is competent in any realm other than control of their people and pushing into other countries? They're bowling down their environment with no thoughts of the future, sending out swarms of people to ruin the environments of other countries as well, are currently pushing themselves to famine, and just a few months ago the world saw how terrible just their flood control system is, which destroyed even more of their farmland that wasn't already useless from being desertified. And concerning Falun, are you really going to claim they're the only wackjobs that eat anything in front of them with the belief it's good for something? One of the very possible starts for the stupid 'plague' going on could have been retards eating wild bats that are barely cooked.

 

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highly competent and technocratic CCP.

Here you go, one for you too.



At any rate, please show me the poster in this thread that doesn't think the Falun Gong people aren't at least a little batty. It's not an either-or thing; we can not be a fan of both a monolithic dictatorial political party and a cult that still believes in qi and related nonsense over actual medicine.

 

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Here you go, one for you too.

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At any rate, please show me the poster in this thread that doesn't think the Falun Gong people aren't at least a little batty. It's not an either-or thing; we can not be a fan of both a monolithic dictatorial political party and a cult that still believes in qi and related nonsense over actual medicine.

I'm still waiting for the tards to stop using the genetic fallacy and actually argue against people instead of calling them names.

 

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Even ignoring all your other bullshit, how can you seriously claim the CCP is competent in any realm other than control of their people and pushing into other countries? They're bowling down their environment with no thoughts of the future, sending out swarms of people to ruin the environments of other countries as well, are currently pushing themselves to famine, and just a few months ago the world saw how terrible just their flood control system is, which destroyed even more of their farmland that wasn't already useless from being desertified. And concerning Falun, are you really going to claim they're the only wackjobs that eat anything in front of them with the belief it's good for something? One of the very possible starts for the stupid 'plague' going on could have been retards eating wild bats that are barely cooked.

How can I say the CCP is competent? It literally raised 1.3 billion people out of poverty in 30 years. It builds thousands of miles of HSR line while the US shits around not even being able to build a few hundred (or any real infrastructure anywhere since the Great Society) because it gets caught in bullshit corrupt private-public tenderships that go nowhere and just waste money on decades on end while nothing gets built. They build Cities that make US cities look like dilapidated garbage in the span of a few years. You know why B&R is popular? Because literally every country involved says China actually does the shit it says it's going to do, while the IMF and World Bank do jack shit with deals that don't actually do anything and have worse debt traps.

They're bowling down their environment with no thoughts of the future

It's a developing country that's going through what the West went through up from the 1800s until the 1970s/80s and China is doing a far better job of managing it's environment than the West did until it realised "Oh right ecology is a thing". China's air pollution is going down and they're the world leader in renewable technology and Nuclear. Also the west can't really claim to be so much better it, we literally outsourced all our pollution and production to China and even still then, the average Amerifat produces what, 3x the carbon of the average Chinese?

are currently pushing themselves to famine

Imagine actually believing China is heading to Famine.

terrible just their flood control system is, which destroyed even more of their farmland that wasn't already useless from being desertified.

Again, just pure US projection lol. Forget New Orleans or something? Also China is pretty much the world leader in combating desertification. Yes the Three-North Shelter project isn't going as well as they would like and needs far more plantation diversity, but China has made significant processes in combatting desertification to the point it's systems are being exported else where to fight desertification in other countries.

And concerning Falun, are you really going to claim they're the only wackjobs that eat anything in front of them with the belief it's good for something? One of the very possible starts for the stupid 'plague' going on could have been retards eating wild bats that are barely cooked.

Did the CCP tell people to go eat bats and endangered animals? It's fair to say that the CCP doesn't do enough to crack down on Wet Markets, but again, China is this thing called, a Developing country and not only is it a developing country, it's a developing country that is massive and has 1.3 billion people.

Here you go, one for you too.

At any rate, please show me the poster in this thread that doesn't think the Falun Gong people aren't at least a little batty. It's not an either-or thing; we can not be a fan of both a monolithic dictatorial political party and a cult that still believes in qi and related nonsense over actual medicine.

lol coin from the people spreading China Uncensored and Epoch times hyperbolic retardation. There are plenty of criticisms to be made of China, this thread is just filled with Rightoid American cope using completely retarded sources.
No the Three Gorges isn't going to fucking explode and guess what, Gravity Dams, are proven Dam technology. Blackouts had nothing to do with Australian coal but unexpected power usage due to China recovering from Covid faster than their models predicted (hence how they were able to end blackouts once their production ramped up to match draw) and no, B&R isn't debt trap diplomacy or some global Chinese geographic strategic military plot. (The irony of IMF cocksucking countries like the US and Australia and UK saying it is jesus).

 

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It literally raised 1.3 billion people out of poverty in 30 years.

So no significant percentage of people in China lives in poverty? But you're right, on average, Chinese people have a much better standard of living now compared to 30 years ago. Hmm, what happened around that time? That's right, they were finishing up Deng's capitalist reforms.

due to China recovering from Covid faster than their models predicted

Holy shit, you don't actually believe the CCP's numbers, do you?

 

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How can I say the CCP is competent? It literally raised 1.3 billion people out of poverty in 30 years. It builds thousands of miles of HSR line while the US shits around not even being able to build a few hundred (or any real infrastructure anywhere since the Great Society) because it gets caught in bullshit corrupt private-public tenderships that go nowhere and just waste money on decades on end while nothing gets built. They build Cities that make US cities look like dilapidated garbage in the span of a few years. You know why B&R is popular? Because literally every country involved says China actually does the shit it says it's going to do, while the IMF and World Bank do jack shit with deals that don't actually do anything and have worse debt traps.

How can you really even attempt to claim that the entire population has been "pulled out of poverty"? And to claim that it's the CCP that actually did this and not every western company exploting the cheap ass labor, and China thus getting fuck-you-money overnight.

Their cities are glorified sovietblocks made up to look like decent shit because they cover them in masses of blinding LEDs, while their expensive towers leak and many prove useless. They build giant fake cities that no one lives in just to attempt to act like their growth is never ending. Their "infrastructure development" involves knocking down everything in their way to build roads that will likely crumble in a matter of years.

It's a developing country that's going through what the West went through up from the 1800s until the 1970s/80s and China is doing a far better job of managing it's environment than the West did until it realised "Oh right ecology is a thing". China's air pollution is going down and they're the world leader in renewable technology and Nuclear. Also the west can't really claim to be so much better it, we literally outsourced all our pollution and production to China and even still then, the average Amerifat produces what, 3x the carbon of the average Chinese?

"It's a developing country" that actively wiped out and still tries to wipe out entire species of animals with wild abandon because they believe them to be pests. How the fuck are they doing "better than the west" when they blanked their cities and everyone downstream of them with smog, forcing them to wear masks even before the spergdemic? They have massive swaths of land bigger than superfunds actively made useless by their idiocy. Their population is so much larger than the US in a similar amount of space, but with much more mountainous terrain that they're eating through it at an insane rate. "World leader in renewable technology" that actively pushes a side to the media that doesn't exist, installing shit that they immediately demolish once the news is gone. "The west can't be said to be much better" because we outsouce our garbage? Why does China choose to accept it if they're such a superpower?

Imagine actually believing China is heading to Famine.

Not even sure what I should say to this autism.

Again, just pure US projection lol. Forget New Orleans or something? Also China is pretty much the world leader in combating desertification. Yes the Three-North Shelter project isn't going as well as they would like and needs far more plantation diversity, but China has made significant processes in combatting desertification to the point it's systems are being exported else where to fight desertification in other countries.

The fuck are you talking about New Orleans? Fema's failure to help them in the wake of disaster? What the hell does China do for their people besides leave them to their own devices?

"World leader in combating desertification" doubt. Over a fourth of the country's previously useful land is supposed desertified. Yeah they're fighting it, but the only countries that fall for their help are the poor African countries that have already been wrapped into the Belt and road scam.

Did the CCP tell people to go eat bats and endangered animals? It's fair to say that the CCP doesn't do enough to crack down on Wet Markets, but again, China is this thing called, a Developing country and not only is it a developing country, it's a developing country that is massive and has 1.3 billion people.

Again with the developing country BS. You compare them as a better to the US and the general west but continue to make endless excuses to why the general Chinese populace believes in such nonsense as endangered animals giving them erections again and the fact that the CCP continues to allow them to ruin other countries and themselves with their ignorance. Wet markets especially could be easily destroyed by strict regulation yet nothing fucking happens.

No the Three Gorges isn't going to fucking explode and guess what, Gravity Dams, are proven Dam technology. Blackouts had nothing to do with Australian coal but unexpected power usage due to China recovering from Covid faster than their models predicted (hence how they were able to end blackouts once their production ramped up to match draw) and no, B&R isn't debt trap diplomacy or some global Chinese geographic strategic military plot. (The irony of IMF cocksucking countries like the US and Australia and UK saying it is jesus).

Did I even mention TGD? Yeah, it didn't collapse, but it's disruption of the river and it's sister dams caused massive relocation of floodwater, destroying arable land and inhabited towns and cities, and they had to actively demolish many of them. How long will it take for them to repair? Why do they tout a system that requires the destruction of aquatic habitats?

"China recovering from covid" 1.3 billion people, their country was the epicenter of the disease, people packed tight together like rats and you're going to actually believe their BS numbers. Lost cause. I guess that perfect record of destroying a disease they may have actually created is why they silenced so many of their own scientists.

 

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THEY ARE BUILIDING WALLS

China is building border walls with Vietnam and Myanmar to keep people out, but also in​

Border closures have become a key feature of the COVID-19 era, but China's decision to reinforce border walls with its South-East Asian neighbours has stirred up fresh controversy.

Then-US president Donald Trump gained world-wide attention when he announced his plan in 2015 to build a 1,609-kilometre long "beautiful border wall" in an effort to keep Mexican migrants out of the US.

But on the other side of the Pacific, China is working on its own lesser-known projects along the borders of Vietnam and Myanmar.

"It looks like a national program," South-East Asia expert and emeritus professor Carl Thayer of UNSW Canberra told the ABC.

The project in Vietnam, according to Chinese state media Xinhua, involves a 4.5-metre-high iron fence, topped with barbed wire, along the Beilun River.

Built between 2012 and 2017, the $29 million project reportedly stretches 12 kilometres, and is there to curb the smuggling of goods, drugs and people.

It continues to be extended as additional phases are rolled out.

Meanwhile, a 659-kilometre-long fence has reportedly been completed along China's 2,000-kilometre border with Myanmar in December, in between China's Yunnan province and Myanmar's northern Shan State, according to Radio Free Asia and Myanmar's The Irrawaddy.

While jingoistic tabloid Global Times has cited China's need to stop the spread of COVID-19 and to prevent smuggling, in some cases the walls are designed not just to keep the virus out, but to keep people in.

According to Professor Thayer, although smuggling might not be the main reason behind China's recent border reinforcement measures, illegal cross-border activity has been a major headache for both China and Vietnam since 1979, when the war between the two countries ceased.

The persistent criminal network of smugglers on both sides, with the help of local officials and security forces, led to a series of issues, including the illicit trafficking of Vietnamese women to China, Professor Thayer said.

The ABC reported in 2018 that at least 100 girls were repatriated to Lao Cai province of Vietnam from China every year, but many more were stolen, sold and never returned.

China's more recent explanation for the wall construction described the urgent need to stop illegal border-crossers due to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Global Times.

Vietnam has reported just 1,500 cases of COVID-19 and 35 deaths, compared to 98,000 cases and 4,798 deaths in China.

But Myanmar has reported more than 130,000 cases of COVID-19 and almost 3,000 deaths, and an outbreak in migrant workers from Myanmar last month has led to a second wave of the virus in neighbouring Thailand.

In video clips posted by a Chinese YouTuber A'Mu, part of the border wall in Wanding, China's border town with Myanmar, was seen being upgraded, including security cameras installed every couple of metres.

"Before the pandemic, there was no wall, but only short wooden fences," A'Mu said.
A'Mu is one of many Chinese YouTubers to post videos of the border wall being recently reinforced.

Apart from the need to control the spread of COVID-19, experts say China's wall-building on the Vietnamese border reveals increasing economic anxiety, as the flow of migration has become two-way instead of one.

Professor Tran Ly of Deakin University, who studies international graduate employability, said the reason Chinese migrant workers were moving to Vietnam is multi-faceted.

"[They are] attracted by not only job prospects but also life opportunities associated with fast economic growth, political stability and effective management of COVID-19 by Vietnam, one of their closest neighbouring countries," Professor Ly said.

"[Vietnam] has created a favourable and secure market condition for foreign investment… and attracted manufacturing companies originally based in China to relocate to Vietnam."

Tens of thousands of skilled Chinese workers left China for Vietnam in recent years, according to local media VnExpress, which reported some 33,770 Chinese nationals were working legally in Vietnam before the pandemic.

And according to a Radio Free Asia report from October, hundreds of skilled Chinese workers left China for Vietnam and some manufacturing companies relocated, due to Vietnam's rising economic status.

Illegal immigration is a problem for both countries — last month, Vietnam repatriated at least 29 illegal migrants from China, according to Vietnamese local media.

More than 100 Vietnamese people, who had gone to work in China illegally, were also found to have crossed back into Vietnam illegally in a four-day period in September last year.

Apart from Vietnam's favourable investment environment, Professor Ly also pointed out that geopolitical factors have impacted the relocation and change in the employment market.

"Tensions between China and the US, and other countries like Australia play a role in influencing manufacturing companies' decision to move from China to Vietnam."
While some skilled workers have found a legal way to migrate, Professor Ly said many workers have crossed the border illegally.

As a result, they face significant barriers in finding jobs after arriving in Vietnam, she said.

However, the tightened border doesn't just impact on the lives of migrant workers — a commonly shared view among many critics is that the border wall China is constructing targets Chinese dissidents.

"It is aiming to curb the flow of Chinese out of the country, not just for unemployed workers, but anyone that China doesn't want to leave," Professor Thayer said.
The ABC has approached the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs for comment about the Beijing's reasons for the border walls.

China's Yunnan province, which borders Vietnam, Myanmar and Laos, has "long served as an outlet for ethnic Uyghurs and others seeking to gain asylum in the West", as well as a corridor for refugees escaping North Korea, according to an article published by The Diplomat.

Myanmar's military also expressed to China its objection over the new border structure in November, according to The Irrawaddy.

Even though China referred to COVID-19 as the reason for the recent construction, the Irrawaddy suggested the building has actually been taking place on and off since 2018, and has long been a source of tension between the two nations.

The ABC has contacted the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Myanmar's Government spokesperson for a response.

 

[Donker]

How can you really even attempt to claim that the entire population has been "pulled out of poverty"? And to claim that it's the CCP that actually did this and not every western company exploting the cheap ass labor, and China thus getting fuck-you-money overnight.

By the same world bank metrics that claim the West has pulled people out of poverty but raising people above the IPL. Good enough for the West, Good enough for China.

And to claim that it's the CCP that actually did this and not every western company exploting the cheap ass labor, and China thus getting fuck-you-money overnight.

Who's in power in China?

Their cities are glorified sovietblocks made up to look like decent shit because they cover them in masses of blinding LEDs, while their expensive towers leak and many prove useless.

And many are perfectly fine, those that engage in dodgy building practices, which a rife across China and something the CCP should be criticised for not cracking down on harder, at least get the bullet, from developers to local officials.

Their "infrastructure development" involves knocking down everything in their way to build roads that will likely crumble in a matter of years.

Again cherry picking, cases with road failures in recent times again, resulted in the project managers and local officials being investigated and guess what, getting the bullet because it's found they're skimming through using substandard materials or often more commonly, not actually building to plan, by skimming off certain layers or building the roads more narrow that they need to be. The CCP is doing exactly what people here claim it should be doing, cracking down massively on corruption and skirting of regulations, but any time it does that, people cry "Authoritarianism". You can't have one without the other. The CCP are trying to institute a cultural change and again, you can be critical of perhaps the way they're going about it, but the shit in here (and pretty much everything you hear from Falun Gong mouthpieces and the US) is so very often contradictory.

"It's a developing country" that actively wiped out and still tries to wipe out entire species of animals with wild abandon because they believe them to be pests.

Exactly like the west did when it was developing and is basically still doing, just exporting it's production to the developing world. Palm Oil and Beef anyone?

How the fuck are they doing "better than the west" when they blanked their cities and everyone downstream of them with smog, forcing them to wear masks even before the spergdemic?

Go look at a photo of LA in 1970. Until the formation of the EPA and OSHA, and extremely strict crackdowns in the US, the US would literally suffer from acidic rain and smog (also Lead Smog explaining Boomers) so thick you could barely see the sun in Major US cities.

Their population is so much larger than the US in a similar amount of space, but with much more mountainous terrain that they're eating through it at an insane rate.

Almost like China should implement stricter child policies huh.

"World leader in renewable technology" that actively pushes a side to the media that doesn't exist, installing shit that they immediately demolish once the news is gone.

And yet is still producing, and actually funded much of the development of Renewable Technologies after retarded Rightoid Governments in the West cut massive public funding to Renewable projects. SunTech for example, founded by Australian scientists in China because the Australian rightoid Government hated Renewables so much that they basically forced the Scientists to bail Australia and China offered to continue funding their research. Suntech has gone on to get this power US military bases.

Why does China choose to accept it if they're such a superpower?

China is not a super-power, it's a regional power, with a focus on being a regional power and is still a developing country. Even the CCP admits by it's projections it won't be considered "Developed" until around 2050-2070.

The fuck are you talking about New Orleans? Fema's failure to help them in the wake of disaster?

What caused the Disaster in the first place?

What the hell does China do for their people besides leave them to their own devices?

A fucktonne more than the US does for it's people. Guess what, most Chinese are seeing massive improvements in their lives, the CCP has a 90%+ approval rating even though Rightoid bias US polling, has lived vast swaths of it's population out of poverty, has seen wages skyrocketing (even among "muh genocided Uighurs"). Chinese people are among the optimistic in the world, trust their Government more than Westerners do and believe the CCP responds to their needs more thanks to how Mass Line is carried out which ironically probably actually sees the average Chinese have more impact on the direction of their country than the Average American due to Chinese Governmental historical paranoia about lack of legitimacy and uprisings. It's not just me saying this, even rightoid, Republican Party-linked US publications admit this.

"World leader in combating desertification" doubt. Over a fourth of the country's previously useful land is supposed desertified.

And China is a world leader in rejuvenation, yes I agree, not happening fast enough and China shouldn't have let it happen in the first place, but at least it is doing something. The US had similar problems, remember the Dust Bowl?

Yeah they're fighting it, but the only countries that fall for their help are the poor African countries that have already been wrapped into the Belt and road scam.

No evidence that B&R is a scam. By all accounts it's very favorable compared to World Bank and IMF programs and loans and B&R currently has not exhibited being a Debt Trap as much as Western news sources want to claim it is.

Again with the developing country BS.

It's literally a developing country dude.

You compare them as a better to the US and the general west

I'm arguing that the CCP is a more competent Government than the Neoliberal Western Governments and that China's Model/B&R provide a better developmental model for Developing countries than Western Neoliberalism and the IMF/World Bank. The West has had a 150-ish year headstart on Industrial Development than China did while China is still hasn't even majority mechanised it's agricultural production. What China, and the CCP have achieved in such a short amount of time has legitimately been stunning. (and this goes to Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, Japan as well. Though none have the massive challenges China and the CCP faced in terms of sheer scale and lack of support, though I hold both the PAP and CCP in high standing for developmental strategy)

Wet markets especially could be easily destroyed by strict regulation yet nothing fucking happens.

Wet Markets are a standard of experience in Grocery in Asia, even developed Asian countries like Japan have live Wet Markets. People in China don't want Wet Markets banned and replaced with standard Supermarkets, hell even here in the West, if you go into large Asian grocers, they often have a set up to at least try emulate the "feel" of a Wet Market.
I agree though that Wet markets should be wiped off the face of the earth and China (Along with Asia in general) need to do way better with treatment of animals.

Did I even mention TGD? Yeah, it didn't collapse, but it's disruption of the river and it's sister dams caused massive relocation of floodwater, destroying arable land and inhabited towns and cities, and they had to actively demolish many of them. How long will it take for them to repair? Why do they tout a system that requires the destruction of aquatic habitats?

I mean, this is pretty standard with Dams and why Hydroelectric is rarely supported as a "renewable energy solution" by Environmental groups. I agree, also this wasn't aimed at you but specifically at claims throughout the thread about how TGD is going to collapse and shit like that.

"China recovering from covid" 1.3 billion people, their country was the epicenter of the disease, people packed tight together like rats and you're going to actually believe their BS numbers. Lost cause. I guess that perfect record of destroying a disease they may have actually created is why they silenced so many of their own scientists.

Nothing to do with believing their numbers, but power usage in the region was expected to dip around 6% in December-January but went the opposite direction due to a more speedy recovery and return to "normalcy" than what was expected. Claims that Australian coal caused the drain (a claim made by Australia-China hawks) isn't really based in fact and easily debunkable as the rolling blackouts were short and temporary and were able to be fixed as generation was quickly able to be ramped up. Australia could hurt China with Iron Ore, but Australia also knows it's mismanagement for decades has led it to frankly being a Banana Republic that is way too reliant on China, but has nothing to actually produce or sell to anyone else due to Government hostility against any industry which wasn't mining and FIRE. (They literally replaced their fucking National fiber network with copper, just to fuck over the Tech industry so it didn't provide competition for Australian vested interests)

 

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THEY ARE BUILIDING WALLS

China is building border walls with Vietnam and Myanmar to keep people out, but also in​

Could be a subtle way to keep Chinese people who can't stand the CCP regime anymore? Also, there's one guy who claim to filmed recently the Three Gorges Dam and I quote his comment.

It all makes sense in later videos, but I was just a little bit confused when I expected to see a totally straight dam and wound up seeing a very visible bend.

 

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China Wanted to Show Off Its Vaccines. It’s Backfiring.​

Delays, inconsistent data, spotty disclosures and the country’s attacks on Western rivals have marred its ambitious effort to portray itself as a leader in global health.
China’s coronavirus vaccines were supposed to deliver a geopolitical win that showcased the country’s scientific prowess and generosity. Instead, in some places, they have set off a backlash.
Officials in Brazil and Turkey have complained that Chinese companies have been slow to ship the doses and ingredients. Disclosures about the Chinese vaccines has been slow and spotty. The few announcements that have trickled out suggest that China’s vaccines, while considered effective, cannot stop the virus as well as those developed by Pfizer and Moderna, the American drugmakers.

In the Philippines, some lawmakers have criticized the government’s decision to purchase a vaccine made by a Chinese company called Sinovac. Officials in Malaysia and Singapore, which both ordered doses from Sinovac, have had to reassure their citizens that they would approve a vaccine only if it has been proven safe and effective.

“Right now, I would not take any Chinese vaccine because there’s insufficient data,” said Bilahari Kausikan, an influential former official at Singapore’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He added that he would consider it only with “a proper report.”
At least 24 countries, most of them low and middle income, signed deals with the Chinese vaccine companies because they offered access at a time when richer nations had claimed most of the doses made by Pfizer and Moderna. But the delays in getting the Chinese vaccines and the fact that the vaccines are less effective mean that those countries may take longer to vanquish the virus.

Beijing officials who had hoped the vaccines would burnish China’s global reputation are now on the defensive. State media, meanwhile, has started a misinformation campaign against the American vaccines, questioning the safety of the Pfizer and Moderna shots and promoting the Chinese vaccines as a better alternative. They have also distributed online videos that have been shared by the anti-vaccine movement in the United States.

Liu Xin, an anchor with CGTN, the state broadcaster, asked on Twitter why the foreign media has failed to “follow up” on the deaths of people in Germany who have taken one vaccine — though scientists have said the people were already seriously ill. Ms. Liu’s tweet was shared by Zhao Lijian, a top spokesman at China’s foreign ministry.

George Gao, the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has questioned the safety of the American vaccines because their developers used new techniques rather than the traditional method embraced by Chinese makers.
China had hoped its vaccines would prove it had become a scientific and diplomatic powerhouse. It remains on par with the United States in the number of vaccines approved for emergency use or in late stage trials. Sinopharm, a state-owned vaccine maker, and Sinovac have said they can produce up to a combined two billion doses this year, making them essential to the global fight against the coronavirus.
Unlike the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, their doses can be kept at refrigerated temperatures and are more easily transported, making them appealing to the developing world. They have been doled out as aid to countries like Pakistan and the Philippines.

China’s campaign has been plagued with doubts, however. Many people have memories of the country’s vaccine scandals. Several governments remain angry about Beijing’s lack of openness about the virus in the early days of the pandemic. Its efforts at the start of last year to distribute masks and protective equipment to the West came under fire amid reports of shoddy quality and the demands by Chinese officials for public thanks.

A YouGov survey this month of roughly 19,000 people in 17 countries and regions showed that most were distrustful of a Covid-19 vaccine made in China. The misinformation campaign surrounding Western vaccines could further undermine its image.
The delays in shipments to places like Brazil and Turkey have been the latest hitch.

In Turkey, the government initially promised that 10 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine would arrive in December. Only three million did in early January, according to Fahrettin Koca, Turkey’s health minister. He did not explain the reason for the shortfall, which has been criticized by opposition politicians. The remaining doses finally arrived on Monday, according to Anadolu, Turkey’s state-run news agency.

In a statement, China’s foreign ministry cited its needs at home, where the coronavirus has re-emerged.
“Currently, China’s domestic vaccine demand is huge,” it said. “While meeting domestic demand, we are overcoming difficulties, thinking and trying ways to develop international vaccine cooperation with other countries, especially developing countries in different ways, and providing support and assistance according to their needs and within our capacity.”

The sporadic outbreaks could also hinder production. Sinovac, which declined to comment, said on Friday online that it was looking for workers for a Beijing-area facility where an outbreak had frightened off potential employees.
Countries like Turkey and Brazil are rolling out their immunization programs with a Sinovac vaccine because Western companies cannot deliver as quickly. But Brazil’s efforts have been delayed as well. Eduardo Pazuello, the country’s health minister, said China is not acting fast enough with the documents needed to export raw materials to Brazil.
“We are making strong moves at the diplomatic level to find where that resistance is and solve the problem,” Mr. Pazuello told a news conference last Sunday.

On Wednesday, Rodrigo Maia, Brazil’s speaker of the house, told reporters that he had met the Chinese ambassador to Brazil, who “made it clear that there is no political obstacle, that it was a technical process that was delayed a little.”
Other vaccines are beginning to fill the gap. Brazil’s health ministry announced on Thursday that a previously delayed shipment of two million doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine would be arriving the next day from India.

The world was also caught off guard by the disclosure that the Sinovac vaccine may not be as effective as previously thought. Earlier, officials in Turkey said trials there showed the vaccine has a 91 percent efficacy rate. In Indonesia, it was 68 percent. In Brazil, researchers initially said its efficacy was 78 percent.

Then, on Jan. 12, scientists said it had an efficacy rate of just over 50 percent, once people who experienced mild symptoms were included. That level is a hair above the threshold set by the World Health Organization to consider a vaccine effective. In a news conference last week, Sinovac’s chief executive officer, Yin Weidong, reiterated that the vaccine is 100 percent effective in preventing severe cases. He said the lower efficacy rate was because the trial was focused on health care workers, who had a higher propensity of contracting Covid-19 than the general population.

Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s president and a critic of both China and its Covid-19 vaccines, pounced on the data. On Jan. 13, he mocked the vaccine’s efficacy rate, asking a supporter: “Is that 50 percent good?”
To be sure, the Chinese vaccines have a big appeal to many countries. More than 40 countries have expressed an interest in importing Chinese vaccines, according to China’s foreign ministry. Several world leaders, including President Reccep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and President Joko Widodo of Indonesia, have gotten a Sinovac vaccine.

But the spotty and inconsistent disclosures about the vaccines remain a problem. In the case of Sinopharm, the company said a vaccine candidate made by its Beijing Institute of Biological Products arm had an efficacy rate of 79 percent, but it did not disclose crucial details. Sinopharm didn’t respond to a request for comment.

In Hong Kong, a special administration region of China that has ordered 7.5 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine, officials have not received an application for emergency distribution nor any data from the Chinese company.
“Whether it is because they are not making enough or if they have no plans to send the vaccines to Hong Kong yet, I don’t know,” said Dr. Lau Chak Sing, who heads a Hong Kong government advisory panel on Covid-19 vaccines.

Data disclosure has also been an issue in the Philippines, which has secured 25 million Sinovac vaccine doses. Risa Hontiveros, an opposition lawmaker, said President Rodrigo Duterte’s administration “continues to cram their preference for Chinese-made vaccines down the public’s throat, without emergency use approval and with inconsistent data.”

Leila de Lima, a senator and opposition leader who is in prison, expressed anger that the government is paying $61 a dose, more than double what Sinovac’s partner in Indonesia is paying. The presidential palace said that price was overstated but it couldn’t divulge the real ones because of a confidentiality agreement.

Despite the uncertainty, many people may have little choice.
“I’ll have my jab,” said Kayihan Pala, a member of the Turkey Medical Association’s Covid-19 monitoring board. “I am waiting my turn, because there is no other option.”

 

[Bayun Fulan]

A fucktonne more than the US does for it's people. Guess what, most Chinese are seeing massive improvements in their lives, the CCP has a 90%+ approval rating even though Rightoid bias US polling, has lived vast swaths of it's population out of poverty, has seen wages skyrocketing (even among "muh genocided Uighurs"). Chinese people are among the optimistic in the world, trust their Government more than Westerners do and believe the CCP responds to their needs more thanks to how Mass Line is carried out which ironically probably actually sees the average Chinese have more impact on the direction of their country than the Average American due to Chinese Governmental historical paranoia about lack of legitimacy and uprisings

As a Chinese, I've never heard of any satisfaction survey, and I don't think I or the people around me are optimistic at all. I understand that you may be dissatisfied with the current situation of your own country, so you envy another distant country. But only when you live here as a local can you really feel how shitty life here is. Just recently, an anchor suffered from malnutrition and died alone at home because he had no money to see a doctor. Even after a few days, his body was found, let alone the one I knew Some students who jump to commit suicide because they are desperate about the status quo. I would like to remind you to look less at the propaganda that obviously belongs to our government。

 

[Ghost88]

Joe's gonna genocide the whites and his only family and the Uighurs now, wow. Not that I care about the Uighers or WIGGERS as everyone seems to want to call them. What rap music and baggy pants have to do with Chinese muslims I don't know but we go with it.