Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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So there's been a lot of new events this past week, @edwin_boyette 's presentation by the global media as an insurrection-supporting far right conspiracy theorist being by far the most attention getting. But which Comicsgater would be the first to reestablish contact and score an interview with Edwin and his newfound celebrity? The answer would be the oft-overlooked channel of Jon Del Arroz

Oooo, I get bored and something good.

2021/01/25 - JON DEL ARROZ - THE DANKSTREAM #12: AT WAR WITH THE ALGORITHM

The stream does not start off promising, with a solo Jon reading a fluff piece from Bounding into Comics reporting on a blog entry by Jon. Jon says that the way to fight the algorithm is to spam links to countercultural content wherever you can, which sounds somewhat backwards from the perspective of a SEO administrator but whatever.

I'm sure Jon will destroy the Patriarchy Elites by behaving like Ethiopian scammers.

Jon proceeds to make a lot of arguments about how the dying scifi and comics industries

Sci fi seems to be doing fine. But Ja Ja, gefälschte Nachrichten.

Edwin Boyette joins at 41:10, presumably because all his actual friends like Mike S. Miller and Doug TenNapel's channels are locked down by YouTube and potentially awaiting termination after they got it in their minds that, after the POTUS was removed from all social media for pumping out content disputing the election, this was a great vacuum for them to manufacture clickbait along those lines with.

To be fair, who could have predicted Youtube would do what it said it would?

So Jon Del Arroz's channel it is. Edwin says it's alright to ask him questions about his resignation from the GOP and at least one denouncement by an anti-antisemitic activist group for supporting styxhexenhammer666 and QAnon theorists.

Have we actually looked at the statement? Does Edwin believe the Clinton's have a child sex dungeon? Jon being a journalist surely asked...

It's at some point during this monologue from Edwin that JDA sneaks "Soy Rage" in without warning. The... vocal Etsy coozie and sock merchant starts yelling that Edwin went wrong when he didn't post these hot takes of his with a sock account, which are available now on IndieGoGo!

Damn that's an embarrassing joke even for me. Either seppuku or mon chi chi for atonement.

Edwin threatens to leave if someone (Soy Rage) continues to act like a jackass for the assembled audience instead of making space for Boyette's political ruminations. No such luck, Edwin.

Ah, threats always work so well.

Edwin continues to elaborate his dislike of Twitter; its social and medium constrictions making it useless for anything other than sterilized advertising, brushing off Jon's attempts to bring it back to comics as he closes with the statement that there's no such thing as an illegal opinion or thought.... yet.

Treason. Treason is illegal. And kiddie porn. Those two are bad thoughts.

Soy Rage says he for one has seen Q, and he got up to all sort of hijinx on the USS Enterprise just like he did in this election

Ah. Damnit. Fine Soy. You get a stay. No chi chi or Seppuku.

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Someone fill me in. Is this some Mexican speak?

 

[Newman's Own]

Spoiler: Ditko told Nasser to fuck off.

Not surprising. Ditko never suffered fools.

Nasser and JDA would flunk out of clown school.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

born-again Comicsgater Nasser Rabadi joins the stream.

born again comicsgate hell yeah

For some reason Nasser on JDA's show works but with Nasser running the show the results are unwatchable.

Well last time @TheCosmicWarrior was working on formatting while on my channel so he wasn't very talkative, but he is probably my 3rd most requested guest behind @FROG and Soy Rage.

and Nasser made an unboxing video about it anyway.

I was grossed out. I had to make a video showing that this sicko mailed me a package when I never gave him my address.

Spoiler: Ditko told Nasser to fuck off.

<3

 

[VIkkiVerse]

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How did books you drew nearly 3 decades ago, impact your progress on Rekt Planet?

 

[EGB]

So there's been a lot of new events this past week, @edwin_boyette 's presentation by the global media as an insurrection-supporting far right conspiracy theorist being by far the most attention getting. But which Comicsgater would be the first to reestablish contact and score an interview with Edwin and his newfound celebrity? The answer would be the oft-overlooked channel of Jon Del Arroz

2021/01/25 - JON DEL ARROZ - THE DANKSTREAM #12: AT WAR WITH THE ALGORITHM

The stream does not start off promising, with a solo Jon reading a fluff piece from Bounding into Comics reporting on a blog entry by Jon. Jon says that the way to fight the algorithm is to spam links to countercultural content wherever you can, which sounds somewhat backwards from the perspective of a SEO administrator but whatever. Along with legendary Punisher writer Mike Baron, Edwin appears in the chat and JDA invites him on to the show. There's no immediate answer from Edwin though so Jon goes ahead and starts reading the Bounding into Comics article, albeit clearly less interested than he initially was in doing this.

Jon proceeds to make a lot of arguments about how the dying scifi and comics industries are being held hostage by SJW racebaiters as well as the latest controversy about LucasFilms taking on some actress named Krystina Arielle, a loud negress who left the intersectionality camp to rail on how white women as a caste are complicit with white supremacy, bucking the orthodox critical theory dogma that white men and not white people are to be targeted by Critical Theory. Jon then segues into an argument about how conservative voices in media need to bandy together and amplify each others' voices instead of allowing themselves to get picked off one-by-one as individuals by powerful groups with the backing of global media oligopolies. So far nothing out of the ordinary.

After some talk about his latest outing on Amazon, AI Wars #1 , Jon invites the psuedonymous illustrator Yakov Merkin to discuss their co-project. At 24:50, fellow born-again Comicsgater Nasser Rabadi joins the stream. For some reason Nasser on JDA's show works but with Nasser running the show the results are unwatchable. JDA wants to read the Bounding into Comics article again, and does so, but then thinks to ask Nasser about the learning process with his journey back into Comicsgate. Nasser speaks of rebuilding connections like one would a derelict building, and also the choice of title for "Ass-ile" (actually pronounced Az-yuhl for those curious) since he got a lot of complains about "buying Nasser's Asyl". Frog offers encouraging words from the chat. Jon says to cheer up; there's plenty of people out there willing to go into crowdfunds, even socks. Nasser audibly groans at the mention of socks after being mailed his own complimentary copy. Still, content is content and Nasser made an unboxing video about it anyway.

Edwin Boyette joins at 41:10, presumably because all his actual friends like Mike S. Miller and Doug TenNapel's channels are locked down by YouTube and potentially awaiting termination after they got it in their minds that, after the POTUS was removed from all social media for pumping out content disputing the election, this was a great vacuum for them to manufacture clickbait along those lines with. So Jon Del Arroz's channel it is. Edwin says it's alright to ask him questions about his resignation from the GOP and at least one denouncement by an anti-antisemitic activist group for supporting styxhexenhammer666 and QAnon theorists. Edwin clarifies that what he was trying to do was deescalate the partisan hatred by pointing out that the QAnon believers and their actions were motivated by sincere love of the country and desire to protect children but this was interpreted as Boyette performing apologetics for a group that attempted to storm the Capitol during a transfer of the Presidency.

It's at some point during this monologue from Edwin that JDA sneaks "Soy Rage" in without warning. The... vocal Etsy coozie and sock merchant starts yelling that Edwin went wrong when he didn't post these hot takes of his with a sock account, which are available now on IndieGoGo! Nasser is jarred back into wakefulness after being lulled by Boyette's dulcet tones while Edwin tries to regain his equilibrium. Edwin tries to say something about Twitter's inability to serve as a true communication medium when JDA's colorist for Deus Vult and Kyrie creator Matt Crott joins to fill the stream with incomprehensible feedback and white noise. At this point any hope of remaining on topic is dashed as Edwin threatens to leave if someone (Soy Rage) continues to act like a jackass for the assembled audience instead of making space for Boyette's political ruminations. No such luck, Edwin.

Edwin continues to elaborate his dislike of Twitter; its social and medium constrictions making it useless for anything other than sterilized advertising, brushing off Jon's attempts to bring it back to comics as he closes with the statement that there's no such thing as an illegal opinion or thought.... yet. Soy Rage says he for one has seen Q, and he got up to all sort of hijinx on the USS Enterprise just like he did in this election while Jon busies himself highlighting his shitposts in the chat then helpfully starts googling pictures of Q from TNG while Edwin starts laying out the Democrat Party agenda for mass targeting and effective disenfranchisement of political dissidents. "And beyond, like in Star Trek!" adds Soy Rage.

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Audibly hitting his mic, Boyette says "Alright del Arroz, I'm going to duck out" and promptly leaves the stream.

The rest of the stream is a sedate mix of JDA and Soy Rage tormenting Nasser, going over Jon and guests' latest projects (the two illustrators giving a more in-depth talk about craft) and a tour of Jon's two floor-to-ceiling shelves of comic book omnibuses and trade paperbacks.

The stream closes with Nasser off-handedly mentioning his letter correspondence he had with co-creator of Spider-Man, Steve Ditko at around the age of 90. Jon, holding Ditko as one his creator idols and role models, is genuinely thrilled at this. Spoiler: Ditko told Nasser to fuck off.

No threats I just didn't want to juxtapose it with overly performative "soy rage" material.
Del Arroz has been targeted for political speech before, so there's definitely overlap and it's likely germane to his audience.

 

[Absurdity]

I think they did Edwin a favor by making him duck out now before the goose-stepping really begins. Politics has never been stranger in this country and I think he rode the wave out respectably. He did it by trying to give the more die-hard Trump supporters a little breathing room and that apparently is way too nuanced and verboten for the lib sheepwolves. I had no idea the GOP voter base was going to be this devastated and purged the way it has. That being said, I hope Edwin manages to avoid low-hanging bait from Scivergate and Scivergate-adjacent. To his credit, Jon put on a decent show. I also happen to agree that the broken laugh track which passes for Soy Rage is unlistenable cringe.

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

No threats I just didn't want to juxtapose it with overly performative "soy rage" material.
Del Arroz has been targeted for political speech before, so there's definitely overlap and it's likely germane to his audience.

It was funny watching Soy Rage take over what you thought was entertainment. Feel dumb yet for making a Qanon post on the OFFICIAL HAWAII GOP TWITTER account.

We new you would eventually pull a Edwin. I mean Methwin

 

[Smug Freiza]

Time for another Comicsgate News Update

FROM INDIEGOGO
Absolute chad and Bane co-creator Graham Nolan recently launched his latest Comicsgate book titled Alien Alamo on Indiegogo. The book reached it's funding goal of 15K in a matter of hours, with help from @FROG on quite an entertaining stream. The success of Alien Alamo follow's Nolan's previous Comicsgate crowdfunded book The Chenoo which raised over 90K from 1,553 backers and recently closed. Nolan describes Alien Alamo as a "science fiction horror B movie", in a similar style to the Chenoo and features a 1950s father and son fighting to survive against the backdrop of an alien invasion. Nolan states that Alien Alamo is not a direct sequel to The Chenoo, but rather exists in the same universe in a Tarantino-esque fashion and can be read as a stand alone story. Reports from backers in the chat of the shill stream indicate that early reviews and fulfillment of the Chenoo were both extremely positive.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/graham-nolan-s-alien-alamo#/

A promotional trailer for Alien Alamo can be found here.

Continuing our Graham Nolan theme, Ya Boi Zack recently posted an update on The Expendables Go To Hell, which features Nolan as the primary artist. In the update Zack attempts to placate what must be a growing number of disgruntled backers decrying how long the book is overdue. In the update Zack assures his backers that the book is 100% complete and ready to go to the printers and that he knows "you're going to love it!"

THE EXPENDABLES GO TO HELL Graphic Novel

The Expendables are BACK! Story by SYLVESTER STALLONE & CHUCK DIXON. Art by GRAHAM NOLAN. | Check out 'THE EXPENDABLES GO TO HELL Graphic Novel' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

Speaking of updates for overdue books, pizza aficionado and former cuckhold Donal Delay/@Fathead recently posted an update on Brutas the Badass addressing how fulfillment is being handled. The book was originally funded in October of 2018 and due to ship in April of 2019, making it almost two years late. Brutas is the second latest Comicsgate comic to be unfulfilled after Brand, followed by Red Rooster.

Brutas The Badass #1

Donal Delay and Nasser Rabadi are bringing hyper 90s action overly macho brutes BACK to comics! | Check out 'Brutas The Badass #1' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

FROM THE TWITTERVERSE
While I'm sure there is some drama unfolding on twitter somewhere, it is completely uninteresting as the autistic cries of Warcampaign which has already been reported on by other kiwi's in the thread.

First we have the autistic screeching of Warcampaign member Mikey Woodz/Michael Widmayer who was blaming Stupendous for leaking backer information, when rumors of his imminent dox began to surface. We now see a shifting narrative from Panboy/Mathew Hanson who appears to think that Cecil is behind the leaking of backer information.

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Which now has shifted to @FROG himself.

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It might not be worth much but I'll say it for the sake of Stupendous, Cecil and Ethan, since I despise obvious false narratives.

At no point did any Comicsgate creator or otherwise ever provide any backer information for any of the doxes posted in this thread.

There are thousands of doxes posted to Kiwi Farms and the idea that backer information is required for any of them is purely laughable. This false narrative is not only insulting to the ones WC are attempting to paint with this tripe, but also to the kiwis who spent the time to track you morons down.

FROM YOUTUBE
Dynamic duo @VIkkiVerse and DA Talks continue their weekly Comicsgate Dumping Grounds stream, this week focusing on the recent drama around Warcampaign and Kiwi Farms. The stream provides an accurate assessment of information compiled in this thread relating to the timing of events and the attempted Warcampaign gayop perpetuated by Wilson/ @Panboys Probation Officer. The duo are later joined by @TESTEFY-HD, Thomas Roilup and kiwifarms own @Captain Manning who each offer their opinions on the situation.

@FROG streamed today and was joined by Graham Nolan to promote Nolan's latest crowdfunding campaign Alien Alamo. Frog also covered recent comic news including a Bleeding Cool article which reported than Bendis is no longer exclusively at DC Comics. The panel is later joined by Adam Post, Jon Malin and several others as they help to promote Graham and discuss the current political situation in the US.

@edwin_boyette posted a video addressing why he resigned as an officer of the Hawaiian Republican Party.

Black Flag creator Dan Fraga will be livestreaming with Roy Thomas and John Cimino in less than 3 minutes.

Kiwifarms own @9th legion centurion 002 produced a highly entertaining and humorous rap song about Warcampaign. I highly encourage all kiwis to watch it for a laugh and to show support for the Large Father.

Continuing in promoting humorous videos from fellow kiwis, our own @Mister Dongs recently uploaded a video focusing on Nasser's letter from Steve Ditko as described in his breakdown above.

Finally in 18 hours Dan Shahin will be interviewing Bleeding Cool journalist Rich Johnston, be sure to set your reminders.

Well that's it for our update today, obviously the latest Warcampaign/Kiwi Farms drama has taken front and center given the recent events. Other news obviously includes Bendis no longer being exclusive to DC, Edwin Boyettes resignation as an officer in the Hawaiian Republican Party and the ongoing drama involving Ethan, Jon Malin and Doug Ernst which appears to have died down recently.

As always take care and stay safe out there.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I'm reading Richard Meyer's autobiography and he made an interesting statement regarding his "luck":

My friends and I had noticed that I seemed to have a peculiar kind of luck that came in two forms - totally, undeservedly good, with great things just falling into my hands without me working for them or horribly, irreparably bad, in which things that I specifically worked to keep from happening, happened twice as bad.

- Richard C. Meyer, Four in the Corps: From Boot Camp to Baghdad - One Grunt's Enlistment (Lincoln: iUniverse, Inc., 2005), pg. 142.

I think 16 years after he published these words, they remain apt.

 

[FROG]

How did books you drew nearly 3 decades ago, impact your progress on Rekt Planet?

So, putting together a complete collected edition, creating some new art for it, writing the essays and captions, and then arranging the actual production for it, and every other product offered in the campaign actually does take time, Vikki. Fulfillment is also a bear.

But yes, REKT PLANET is only a little more than halfway finished, and I still have the 20 page SALAMANDROID DEATHS STING book to finish (only 4 pages into that one) so I've been working DC Comics hours on my art, and doing fewer livestreams.

Except in cases where I'm needed. Like the auctions, and today with Graham Nolan.

Thanks for checking in!

 

[jspit2.0]

I think they did Edwin a favor by making him duck out now before the goose-stepping really begins. Politics has never been stranger in this country and I think he rode the wave out respectably. He did it by trying to give the more die-hard Trump supporters a little breathing room and that apparently is way too nuanced and verboten for the lib sheepwolves. I had no idea the GOP voter base was going to be this devastated and purged the way it has. That being said, I hope Edwin manages to avoid low-hanging bait from Scivergate and Scivergate-adjacent. To his credit, Jon put on a decent show. I also happen to agree that the broken laugh track which passes for Soy Rage is unlistenable cringe.

It was funny watching Soy Rage take over what you thought was entertainment. Feel dumb yet for making a Qanon post on the OFFICIAL HAWAII GOP TWITTER account.

We new you would eventually pull a Edwin. I mean Methwin

Edwin's a pill. He wasn't always this bad, but he's clearly struggling with a country he loves disappointing him. Hopefully he rediscovers a hobby, though I don't know if Hawaii has fishing/hunting.

Soy Rage made some good jokes. He could probably lower the intensity of his shtick a little

Methwin? Isn't that a WC thing?

Continuing our Graham Nolan theme, Ya Boi Zack recently posted an update on The Expendables Go To Hell, which features Nolan as the primary artist. In the update Zack attempts to placate what must be a growing number of disgruntled backers decrying how long the book is overdue. In the update Zack assures his backers that the book is 100% complete and ready to go to the printers and that he knows "you're going to love it!"

Man, Richard's all over the place.

Speaking of updates for overdue books, pizza aficionado and former cuckhold Donal Delay/@Fathead recently posted an update on Brutas the Badass addressing how fulfillment is being handled. The book was originally funded in October of 2018 and due to ship in April of 2019, making it almost two years late. Brutas is the second latest Comicsgate comic to be unfulfilled after Brand, followed by Red Rooster.

Interesting to see where it goes from here. Will anything knock CGers off of buying this stuff?

First we have the autistic screeching of Warcampaign member Mikey Woodz/Michael Widmayer who was blaming Stupendous for leaking backer information, when rumors of his imminent dox began to surface. We now see a shifting narrative from Panboy/Mathew Hanson who appears to think that Cecil is behind the leaking of backer information.

Now that is interesting.

It might not be worth much but I'll say it for the sake of Stupendous, Cecil and Ethan, since I despise obvious false narratives.

At no point did any Comicsgate creator or otherwise ever provide any backer information for any of the doxes posted in this thread.

There are thousands of doxes posted to Kiwi Farms and the idea that backer information is required for any of them is purely laughable. This false narrative is not only insulting to the ones WC are attempting to paint with this tripe, but also to the kiwis who spent the time to track you morons down.

They clearly don't know how it works. Might need to have a remedial class.

including a Bleeding Cool article which reported than Bendis is no longer exclusively at DC Comics.

Like no longer having an exclusive with Ebola.

Black Flag creator Dan Fraga will be livestreaming with Roy Thomas and John Cimino in less than 3 minutes.

Suprising, since Donny Cates got in trouble for contacting CG. Doesn't Thomas still do odd projects at Marvel?

Kiwifarms own @9th legion centurion 002 produced a highly entertaining and humorous rap song about Warcampaign. I highly encourage all kiwis to watch it for a laugh and to show support for the Large Father.

Continuing in promoting humorous videos from fellow kiwis, our own @Mister Dongs recently uploaded a video focusing on Nasser's letter from Steve Ditko as described in his breakdown above.

Truly our bois!

Finally in 18 hours Dan Shahin will be interviewing Bleeding Cool journalist Rich Johnston, be sure to set your reminders.

The chat's gonna be lit. Assuming that cuck even keeps it on.

Well that's it for our update today, obviously the latest Warcampaign/Kiwi Farms drama has taken front and center given the recent events. Other news obviously includes Bendis no longer being exclusive to DC, Edwin Boyettes resignation as an officer in the Hawaiian Republican Party and the ongoing drama involving Ethan, Jon Malin and Doug Ernst which appears to have died down recently.

As always take care and stay safe out there. ​

So good news all around?

 

[Smug Freiza]

The chat's gonna be lit. Assuming that cuck even keeps it on.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited for it, I hope it's interesting enough for Dongs to cover in one of his fabulous write ups. I figured I'd shill it here so all kiwis and lurking Comicsgaters are ready for what I assume will turn into a massive shit show.

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

Edwin's a pill. He wasn't always this bad, but he's clearly struggling with a country he loves disappointing him. Hopefully he rediscovers a hobby, though I don't know if Hawaii has fishing/hunting.

Soy Rage made some good jokes. He could probably lower the intensity of his shtick a little

Methwin? Isn't that a WC thing?


Man, Richard's all over the place.

Interesting to see where it goes from here. Will anything knock CGers off of buying this stuff?

Now that is interesting.

They clearly don't know how it works. Might need to have a remedial class.

Like no longer having an exclusive with Ebola.

Suprising, since Donny Cates got in trouble for contacting CG. Doesn't Thomas still do odd projects at Marvel?

Truly our bois!

The chat's gonna be lit. Assuming that cuck even keeps it on.

So good news all around?

A lot of us before we were in WC called him that also. But, yes they do call him that.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Awww, why are comments turned off for the Rich Johsnton interview?

 

[jspit2.0]

A lot of us before we were in WC called him that also. But, yes they do call him that.

Ah. Thanks.

Awww, why are comments turned off for the Rich Johsnton interview?

Fuck, confirmed.

Dan you pussy. He also turned off comments. Y'know, I'm not someone to insult another person's looks, but couldn't they have gotten a better photo of him?

Oh well, maybe someone will stream snipe him.

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

He's baaaaaack! The legendary figure from many CG related chats Alien Xenomorph has recently shown himself again on a Lord Finatra live stream after a hiatus from his completed mission of breaking Micah Curtis. Looks like he has new prey in mind...

What do you say EVS, forgive the man his transgressions and let him do his thing.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!

 

[Greed]

Oh good you can link me to a post in that, thanks Liam's #1 fan.

You're currently defending the honor of a man who spent Christmas Eve drinking vinegar in his garage. This might not be the best hill to die on.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Black Flag creator Dan Fraga will be livestreaming with Roy Thomas and John Cimino in less than 3 minutes.

01/26/21 -FragaBOOM! LIVE WITH THE LEGENDARY ROY THOMAS!

This was actually an extremely significant moment for Comicsgate as a whole, though not readily apparent to Kiwis reading this thread that don't follow comics. For those who don't; Roy Thomas was the successor and protege to Stan Lee as the Editor-in-Chief of Marvel Comics in the 1960s and the creator (and if not creator, the definitive writer) of countless Marvel creations that are now household names. Of equal if not greater significance is Thomas' contribution to the concept of fandom as a whole, Roy being widely regarded as "the first comics fan to become a comics creator", and what is meant by this is that Roy (along with Stan Lee) were a critical part of the transformation of comics from an occupation by low-paid writers and illustrators into its own culture.

The culture of comics fandom and superhero comics specifically were inculcated by Roy's fanzine Alter Ego in the early 1960s, which were used to foster communities of comic fans through mail, these communities in turn coordinated the first conventions which in time grew into what are now known as ComicCons (now a billion-dollar industry) and everything that has since devolved from that, including Comicsgate. It's no exaggeration to say that Roy is very likely the most eminent Marvel creator still alive and, by leagues the most prestigious creator to have ever appeared on anything approaching a Comicsgate livestream. It's difficult to overstate what an coup it was for Dan Fraga, as representative of a blacklisted community, to land this interview.

Although a venerable eighty years old, Roy Thomas was able to address his ideological great-great-grandchildren both quickly and firm in his speech, albeit with a tendency to meander on whatever is on his mind without end. Fraga struggles at times to keep the interview on the rails while maintaining an appropriate deference, his interest being an academic and carefully chosen topic (Dan clearly having a passion for the history of his profession) of he little explored story of Roy's start as a schoolteacher moonlighting as an editor of the fanzine Alter Ego sixty-one years ago. To hear Roy Thomas tell the story, it came down mostly hustle, networking and constant correspondence with every editor willing to entertain his letters, most notably the patronage of Julius Schwartz and Mort Weisinger, chief editors and architects of the Silver Age of comics that were the 1950s, who Roy recalls very fondly. Given Roy's still strong mental faculties, speed of speech and the scholastic nature of Fraga's questioning, it's difficult to summarize the interview without a complete transcription, but the ~200 viewers were in almost complete silence not wanting to miss anything. A stark contrast to the usually boisterous, bored and easily distracted nature of a normal Comicsgate audience.

Almost. Notorious boor and leader of Warcampaign 2.0 cheatch uses this chance to make himself known to the living legend Roy Thomas. For those curious, Roy's answer was his creation Ultron. Cheatch doesn't know who Ultron is, despite being the main antagonist of the second Avengers movie. This did not go unnoticed.

Sketch Therapy emerges from lurking the chat, wielding a wrench somehow and howling for traitor blood. He doesn't know who the old guy and his friend are, though they "seem nice enough" but frankly Sketch has better things to do right now than worry over such details. For the record, cheatch also has no idea who Roy Thomas is either. Things start shaping up to get ugly quickly, but then something magical happens. Maybe the import of the interview taking place dawns on Sketch or, more likely, he remembers what happened after the last Day of Reckoning when he was given moderator powers and wast taken glorious excess; either way the expected bloodbath does not come.

Most interestingly, at 1:17;00, Roy Thomas takes a moment to thank his agent John Cimino as his one true friend who is genuinely looking out for him in his inevitable slide into senescence (certainly better than the dark end that was at the end of Stan Lee's life). Dan Fraga says that Roy has more friends than he knows, that he's given joy and entertainment to countless people. Roy says that he hopes that some of these friends get jobs as editors some day so a publisher can hire him for some work. It's easy to overlook with all of the man's accomplishments the lack of royalties given to creators 50-60 years ago. Dan expresses surprise that Roy is still interested in work and very casually offers to talk to John and Roy later for a way around this "publisher" hurdle...

 

[A nameless trool]

01/26/21 -FragaBOOM! LIVE WITH THE LEGENDARY ROY THOMAS!

This was actually an extremely significant moment for Comicsgate as a whole, though not readily apparent to Kiwis reading this thread that don't follow comics. For those who don't; Roy Thomas was the successor and protege to Stan Lee as the Editor-in-Chief of Marvel Comics in the 1960s and the creator (and if not creator, the definitive writer) of countless Marvel creations that are now household names. Of equal if not greater significance is Thomas' contribution to the concept of fandom as a whole, Roy being widely regarded as "the first comics fan to become a comics creator", and what is meant by this is that Roy (along with Stan Lee) were a critical part of the transformation of comics from an occupation by low-paid writers and illustrators into its own culture.

The culture of comics fandom and superhero comics specifically were inculcated by Roy's fanzine Alter Ego in the early 1960s, which were used to foster communities of comic fans through mail, these communities in turn coordinated the first conventions which in time grew into what are now known as ComicCons (now a billion-dollar industry) and everything that has since devolved from that, including Comicsgate. It's no exaggeration to say that Roy is very likely the most eminent Marvel creator still alive and, by leagues the most prestigious creator to have ever appeared on anything approaching a Comicsgate livestream. It's difficult to overstate what an coup it was for Dan Fraga, as representative of a blacklisted community, to land this interview.

Although a venerable eighty years old, Roy Thomas was able to address his ideological great-great-grandchildren both quickly and firm in his speech, albeit with a tendency to meander on whatever is on his mind without end. Fraga struggles at times to keep the interview on the rails while maintaining an appropriate deference, his interest being an academic and carefully chosen topic (Dan clearly having a passion for the history of his profession) of he little explored story of Roy's start as a schoolteacher moonlighting as an editor of the fanzine Alter Ego sixty-one years ago. To hear Roy Thomas tell the story, it came down mostly hustle, networking and constant correspondence with every editor willing to entertain his letters, most notably the patronage of Julius Schwartz and Mort Weisinger, chief editors and architects of the Silver Age of comics that were the 1950s, who Roy recalls very fondly. Given Roy's still strong mental faculties, speed of speech and the scholastic nature of Fraga's questioning, it's difficult to summarize the interview without a complete transcription, but the ~200 viewers were in almost complete silence not wanting to miss anything. A stark contrast to the usually boisterous, bored and easily distracted nature of a normal Comicsgate audience.

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Almost. Notorious boor and leader of Warcampaign 2.0 cheatch uses this chance to make himself known to the living legend Roy Thomas. For those curious, Roy's answer was his creation Ultron. Cheatch doesn't know who Ultron is, despite being the main antagonist of the second Avengers movie. This did not go unnoticed.

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Sketch Therapy emerges from lurking the chat, wielding a wrench somehow and howling for traitor blood. He doesn't know who the old guy and his friend are, though they "seem nice enough" but frankly Sketch has better things to do right now than worry over such details. For the record, cheatch also has no idea who Roy Thomas is either. Things start shaping up to get ugly quickly, but then something magical happens. Maybe the import of the interview taking place dawns on Sketch or, more likely, he remembers what happened after the last Day of Reckoning when he was given moderator powers and wast taken glorious excess; either way the expected bloodbath does not come.


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Most interestingly, at 1:17;00, Roy Thomas takes a moment to thank his agent John Cimino as his one true friend who is genuinely looking out for him in his inevitable slide into senescence (certainly better than the dark end that was at the end of Stan Lee's life). Dan Fraga says that Roy has more friends than he knows, that he's given joy and entertainment to countless people. Roy says that he hopes that some of these friends get jobs as editors some day so a publisher can hire him for some work. It's easy to overlook with all of the man's accomplishments the lack of royalties given to creators 50-60 years ago. Dan expresses surprise that Roy is still interested in work and very casually offers to talk to John and Roy later for a way around this "publisher" hurdle...

Yeah, the Image boys got Kirby, seems like CG can get Roy Thomas.
At this point, the less vocal pros that went into CG (like Fraga) or people like SGM that tiptoe around it, may be able to make a viable alternative to the former mainstream comicbook industry.

Also, I am not surprised a lot of CG does not know who Roy Thomas is. A big part of @FROG 's CG is not comicbook fans but anti-woke activists.

I'm reading Richard Meyer's autobiography and he made an interesting statement regarding his "luck":

My friends and I had noticed that I seemed to have a peculiar kind of luck that came in two forms - totally, undeservedly good, with great things just falling into my hands without me working for them or horribly, irreparably bad, in which things that I specifically worked to keep from happening, happened twice as bad.

- Richard C. Meyer, Four in the Corps: From Boot Camp to Baghdad - One Grunt's Enlistment (Lincoln: iUniverse, Inc., 2005), pg. 142.

I think 16 years after he published these words, they remain apt.

YBZ kind of is his worst enemy.
He is a likeable guy and this helps him tremendously, but then his rigid way of thinking screws everything up.

 

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Lmfao holy shit. I stop reading this thread for a week and tardageddon goes down.

To the WC fags in their tinfoil hats lurking this thread, why would Cecil give us any information when he knows we are actively hunting his dox? I have participated in the doxing of several of you speds and at no point did any comic creator feed any kiwi information. Ethan hasn't doxed anyone. Simply put EVS doesn't dox.

When I saw "Hawaii gop" trending on twitter I KNEW immediately it had to be Edwin. I feel kinda bad for our boy that he made international news over a dumb tweet and the resulting mob of leftist retards accusing him of being an anti-semite or wild political radical. He's just a run of the mill retard who meant no harm. The SJW cabal is out for blood and sadly Edwin got proverbialy lynched for the high crime of sperging while wearing a red hat.

Ro Kabir, take your meds faggot. Chimping out because you got doxed then posting MORE private photos while scaring your family with "threats" that NO ONE has made is perhaps the most retarded move I've seen in a while. You managed to piss Null off by lying to him. If you think posting sensitive personal information will somehow protect you from getting doxed you're wrong. Everyone hates you.

As for my hiatus it was due to a schizophrenic nutcase accusing me of being @FROG on 4chan.

@Smug Freiza great work again with the dox on that Asian dumbass from California.

Mitch Scamweiser sucks dicks and I would fuck his wife. Eat shit Mitch the Walmart bitch. 3 years late and the best you can do is blame Tim Lim. Clearly Tim is an international man of mystery and can't be stopped as he controls the illuminati of gay ops turbospergs hell bent on creating an autistic conspiracy. Based off the reactions of his supposed "targets" and how well he gets under their skin I'd say he's extremely successful.