Callum Nathan Thomas Edmunds / MauLer93 / MauLer and the EFAPshere - Objective discussion about not-Channel Awesome featuring Rags, Southpaw and more!

[biscuitscilia]

He claims to want characters to follow internal logic of the story. That's usually how he responds to this criticism. But I'm sure his ideal depiction of this would be characters or the story explaining their every action. He might respond to that and say that it is not true (probably calling you dishonest) and that he loves it when a story is able to tell you things without explicitly telling you. However on the other hand, if a movie/tv show did massive infodumps that destroy the pacing, he would be totally fine with it and attack anyone who criticized this way of exposition if it was something he liked.

Yeah, internal logic has to do with organic narrative flow. There are many characters he recently listed that do things that are not entirely logically sound but emotionally resonant for the characters. A film doesn't need to explain every choice given so that the audience knows what's happening at all times. Withholding information is a valid tactic in story telling, stories do that quite often. It's sometimes called world building but narratively speaking, most films start you off wondering what's happening and reveal what's going on through the course of the narrative through various means. There's not one unified way of doing this but the most universally accepted lazy way is through exposition, because it deprives the audience from learning (with the main character) what's happening through the events of the film. Depriving the audience of that makes it feels like you're being treated like a child. People play with puzzles because they like figuring out where the pieces go, they like engaging with it just like in narratives but being explained where they go isn't fun or engaging.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Seem they still haven't given up on the Mandalorian. They are just about to target ATAT again.

Edit: Unsurprisingly Rags thinks people that cried when Like showed up are pathetic and everyone is scrambling to both not disagree with Rags but at the same time not come off like terrible people like he did because the chat reacted badly. This is a good start. Shadversity is trying to defend the fact that he cried over the Kroods because he is a father unlike these emotionally stunted autists. I actually am starting to feel bad for him because he has clearly fallen into a bad crowd simply because he likes accurate medieval settings.
Edit: Mauler confirms he will do the Mummy at some point for EFAP movies.

 

[HavaLottaTimetoSpare]

At this point I just call it the Starlord fallacy: arguing that something is written badly because the character(s) didn't do what YOU think you would have done in the situation.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

The EFAP is starting to get boring. The more EFAPs I watch the less and less time I want to waste listening to these people. Someone else watch the rest. The only interesting part was when Rags near the beginning ridicules people who cried at Luke Skywalker, which I actually missed because I came on the livestream late.

 

[Not Even Twice]

The EFAP is starting to get boring. The more EFAPs I watch the less and less time I want to waste listening to these people. Someone else watch the rest. The only interesting part was when Rags near the beginning ridicules people who cried at Luke Skywalker, which I actually missed because I came on the livestream late.

You lasted a lot longer than me. I can't make myself watch anything beyond their mini efaps and even those I often click away before they end.

There is only so much fart huffing and brown nosing I can take before it goes from being background noice to actively distracting me.
The few of his guests that I find tolerable are rarely on anyway.
At this point I mostly keep taps to see which of the three stooges (Rags, Jay and Southpaw) causes drama next.

 

[The Nothingness]

Edit: Mauler confirms he will do the Mummy at some point for EFAP movies.

2017 Mummy or 1999 Mummy?

 

[jspit2.0]

Seem they still haven't given up on the Mandalorian. They are just about to target ATAT again.

I just....it's like chasing Amy. They just think one more drink and she'll figure out she needs the D.

Edit: Unsurprisingly Rags thinks people that cried when Like showed up are pathetic and everyone is scrambling to both not disagree with Rags but at the same time not come off like terrible people like he did because the chat reacted badly.

Is he though? I mean, it moved me, but what I like about Rags is he's unfailingly honest and says impolitic things. They've been telling Disney Wars Apologists to fuck off on Mando for what, a year?

By the by, I don't like Mando either. I even share some of their view on it. But for every genuine flaw they find they get lost in twenty nitpicks.

Anyway, people on the internet need to not be babies when an ass is an ass. Rag's is an ass. These cunts have sat and watched him show his ass like a faggy baboon to other people and now they're mad. Why? Because he did it to them.

This is a good start. Shadversity is trying to defend the fact that he cried over the Kroods because he is a father unlike these emotionally stunted autists.

Millennial twat waffles who claim to love Star Wars. If you loved Star Wars there is no way seeing Luke didn't touch you. It doesn't make Mando good, it doesn't make it any less sad.

I actually am starting to feel bad for him because he has clearly fallen into a bad crowd simply because he likes accurate medieval settings.
Edit: Mauler confirms he will do the Mummy at some point for EFAP movies.

Man, that'll be interesting. Mummy 1 and 2 are fucking awesome. Be interesting to see which way they go.

I don't know. Mauler is nowhere near Quentin or Movie Bob. EFAP even has its moments. The Batlesbian stuff is nice and the Gotham High read along is kino. Still, the deeper they go on these more autistic reviews the worse they get.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

2017 Mummy or 1999 Mummy?

1999, since he brought up the sequel.

 

[The Nothingness]

1999, since he brought up the sequel.

I wonder if they'll also do the third in the series since that was an unnecessary sequel.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Is he though? I mean, it moved me, but what I like about Rags is he's unfailingly honest and says impolitic things. They've been telling Disney Wars Apologists to fuck off on Mando for what, a year?

By the by, I don't like Mando either. I even share some of their view on it. But for every genuine flaw they find they get lost in twenty nitpicks.

Anyway, people on the internet need to not be babies when an ass is an ass. Rag's is an ass. These cunts have sat and watched him show his ass like a faggy baboon to other people and now they're mad. Why? Because he did it to them.

I share the sentiment was well. I can respect a man who has the confidence to tell others how he feels. However I do think he exaggerates the edginess and bad behavior because he wants to come off as an alpha and because he feels expected to. You'd think his friends would tell him to calm down, but they just laugh it off and enable him. I think both Rags and some of EFAP's audience see Rags as a jerk with a heart of gold. But to be honest I sometimes doubt there is a shred of any precious metal inside him. One thing I want to know is how he acts in private. I know he is promiscuous and has mad a bunch of short relationship according to what he himself has said, but I seriously wonder if his persona is an act and he is actually much more mild when he is around people who don't know what kind of person he is online.

 

[biscuitscilia]

Seem they still haven't given up and the Mandalorian. They are just about to target ATAT again.

Edit: Unsurprisingly Rags thinks people that cried when Like showed up are pathetic and everyone is scrambling to both not disagree with Rags but at the same time not come off like terrible people like he did because the chat reacted badly. This is a good start. Shadversity is trying to defend the fact that he cried over the Kroods because he is a father unlike these emotionally stunted autists. I actually am starting to feel bad for him because he has clearly fallen into a bad crowd simply because he likes accurate medieval settings.

That faggot cried at the end of Endgame. I don't think he's in any position to judge people for reacting that way towards Luke in Mando.

At this point I just call it the Starlord fallacy: arguing that something is written badly because the character(s) didn't do what YOU think you would have done in the situation.

IIRC didn't Mauler defend Starlord's decision as an irrational choice done right?

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

IIRC didn't Mauler defend Starlord's decision as an irrational choice done right?

I recall that as well. You are referring to his Unbridled Praise of Infinity War, correct? He also used Thanos' not well thought out reason for killing half of humanity as a good example as well when he definitely would have attacked that in anything else. This was in one of his well-made reviews so it holds even more weight than usual as a statement from him

 

[biscuitscilia]

I recall that as well. You are referring to his Unbridled Praise of Infinity War, correct? He also used Thanos' not well thought out reason for killing half of humanity as a good example as well when he definitely would have attacked that in anything else. This was in one of his well-made reviews so it holds even more weight than usual as a statement from him

I think it's an example of him selectively applying his standards onto something. I don't think if he didn't already love the MCU before Infinity War that he would've been as forgiving towards it. It's especially annoying when he uses it as the crux for why something is bad and acts smug about it. If it's okay for a character to be irrational in Infinity War, especially since Thanos had the most development in that film alone, then why isn't it okay in anything else?

 

[Korpon]

I think both Rags and some of EFAP's audience see Rags as a jerk with a heart of gold. But to be honest I sometimes doubt there is a shred of any precious metal inside him. One thing I want to know is how he acts in private. I know he is promiscuous and has mad a bunch of short relationship according to what he himself has said, but I seriously wonder if his persona is an act and he is actually much more mild when he is around people who don't know what kind of person he is online.

Considering he lost his shit at Wolf in private when Wolf disapproved of his behavior on that Reddit post forever ago, I imagine he's probably bad as well off camera, but he still definitely pumps it up to show off/ "be cool", he's still stuck in a High School mentality really. Also, do we know if he's still with his boyfriend or not? I never really heard of him having a bunch of short relationships, so I assume they were before the boyfriend he mentioned having.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Considering he lost his shit at Wolf in private when Wolf disapproved of his behavior on that Reddit post forever ago, I imagine he's probably bad as well off camera, but he still definitely pumps it up to show off/ "be cool", he's still stuck in a High School mentality really. Also, do we know if he's still with his boyfriend or not? I never really heard of him having a bunch of short relationships, so I assume they were before the boyfriend he mentioned having.

I can vaguely recall him talking jokingly about it on a few EFAPs. I could be wrong. That's part of the problem with watching so many of them. You can't remember it all and you can't remember each statement they've made or even which one of the hosts made it. He definitely tries to give that image of being that way in his behavior and his sexually suggestive avatars. I specifically remember him saying that one of his avatars shows that he is "down to fuck".

 

[noonster]

Seem they still haven't given up on the Mandalorian. They are just about to target ATAT again.

Edit: Unsurprisingly Rags thinks people that cried when Like showed up are pathetic and everyone is scrambling to both not disagree with Rags but at the same time not come off like terrible people like he did because the chat reacted badly. This is a good start. Shadversity is trying to defend the fact that he cried over the Kroods because he is a father unlike these emotionally stunted autists. I actually am starting to feel bad for him because he has clearly fallen into a bad crowd simply because he likes accurate medieval settings.
Edit: Mauler confirms he will do the Mummy at some point for EFAP movies.

I skipped around a little to, and landed on a part where Mauler reads a comment that claimed EFAP hates everything, to which Maulers defense was that they defended Underwater in the last episode, like ok, you defended a mediocre scifi-horror movie everyone forgot about and no one cared about. I think the comment was more about them hating most of the big new things that come out, but mauler will never address that aspect.

We also have Rags saying if you liked Mando you have no standards or taste, and it's like... why do they keep covering something they know will cause them to become a little hostile to their fanbase, I get that Mando is still favored by the algorithm a little, but after spending a good chunk of two mando efaps bitching about youtube comments you'd think they'd just drop it and move on to something else.

 

[biscuitscilia]

We also have Rags saying if you liked Mando you have no standards or taste

That's quite a harsh fucking take for people just liking a show. Can you blame anyone for liking a show that wasn't pozzed by Kathleen Kennedy? Doesn't E;R like the first season of Mandalorian? Does he have no standards or taste? We're hitting levels of smug contractarianism that shouldn't even be possible.

 

[noonster]

That's quite a harsh fucking take for people just liking a show. Can you blame anyone for liking a show that wasn't pozzed by Kathleen Kennedy? Doesn't E;R like the first season of Mandalorian? Does he have no standards or taste? We're hitting levels of smug contractarianism that shouldn't even be possible.

They're really banking hard on people eventually turning on the show, which may happen either due to seasonal rot or if season three is a disaster, which ever comes first so they can say "It was always shit, but only we could see it, unlike you normie consoomers". That and they probably feel like they have to play up the Fandom Menace(tm) with anything star wars related.

 

[Miller]

I'm surprised that Rags has not gone after Shad for being a mormon yet.

That's quite a harsh fucking take for people just liking a show. Can you blame anyone for liking a show that wasn't pozzed by Kathleen Kennedy? Doesn't E;R like the first season of Mandalorian? Does he have no standards or taste? We're hitting levels of smug contractarianism that shouldn't even be possible.

Pretty much. A lot of youtubers in the "Fandom Menace" act like they're afraid of saying that it's a good show.
I like The Mandalorian, it's probably the only good thing that Disney has made. It's like an old school slice of life tv show, like the A-Team or Knight Rider. It doesn't pretend to revolutionize storytelling or make you think, it's just a comfy show that wants to do one thing: entertain the audience like Star Wars used to do.

 

[Shieldman]

Pretty much. A lot of youtubers in the "Fandom Menace" act like they're afraid of saying that it's a good show.
I like The Mandalorian, it's probably the only good thing that Disney has made. It's like an old school slice of life tv show, like the A-Team or Knight Rider. It doesn't pretend to revolutionize storytelling or make you think, it's just a comfy show that wants to do one thing: entertain the audience like Star Wars used to do.

AFAIK Ana the Star Wars Girl cried, Jeremy from G+G got all misty on one video. All the Fandom Menace went to bat to protect Star Wars Theory when he got shat on for crying at that scene (But shitting on that weirdo Eric Butts crying was fair game, uh?).

Rags feels confident that he has the "objective superiority" on The Mandalorian, so he is justified on going full on raging asshole. History tells us that when he digs his heels in, not even Mauler could make him calm down.
He may legit be on the spectrum and be totally incapable of 'reading the room'.

I haven't listened this episode (and I won't until it's reuploaded with timecodes). Also, this might mean nothing, but Nerdrotic's friday show totally killed them in terms of viewers.