/r/wsb autists taking on a wallstreet hedgefund. Elon musk involved as always / wallstreetbets / gamestop - Gamergate 2: financial boogaloo

[world of shit]

In all honesty, the Elites aren't that dumb, but they're nowhere near that smart. They're nowhere near intelligent enough to engage in some kind of 4d chess plan that some of you guys are suggesting. Not to mention the Elites actually aren't that united, and actually really fucking hate each other.

Tl;dr: Covid lockdowns weren't put in place to purposefully kill retail and the middle class. Jesus fucking christ, take your fucking meds, and calm your asses down.

First of all, how do you know? Do you jet ski with the elites everyday?

You don't have to be smart when you have near infinite levels of wealth and organization. I don't think Epstein was smart -- listening to his conversations with major science figures, he seemed to be a pseudo-intellectual that played with big ideas as a kid does with a new battleship. Yet he continued to fail upwards throughout life because he knew people. People with money. People that are extremely well organized and work collectively as a group to enforce their collective will.

Game theory has shown time and time again that a small, well-organized, well-communicated groups with goals will always defeat the larger superior group without direction.

Honestly, if you don't think the richest and powerful people get together to set plans, goals, future policies...then there's not much hope for you. I guess it's just a big game of copy-cat when they all start using the same words, slogans, and policies all at once.

Now onto the covid lockdowns -- two things can be true at once. Covid is real, lockdowns were an attempt to curb spread (IMO True). Politicians and Investors used this as an opportunity to accelerate existing plans since the 1980s to further consolidate wealth into their hands from middle-class, while also driving small businesses to near death (either through non-essential classifications, riots, etc). All the while declaring big businesses essential, and propping them up with stimulus. Even now, when lockdowns have been shown worldwide to be a complete failure at halting spread, they're still being pushed.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I don't think that's what is being suggested. Rather it's an angle realized due to the lockdowns. I'm not one to believe in some shadowy cabal controlling everything, either. That's too simple. But to individuals who make money from virtually nothing, this is a perfect opportunity. Cynical exploitation is what they're all about. Exploiting a glitch.

And I do agree with you. I just think people need to stop fucking doomposting, and get a grip. The pandemic isn't going to last forever. The lockdowns aren't going to last forever. There's still going to be small businesses after the pandemic. Everything will go back to normal. I don't know when, but I do know this lunacy won't last forever.

For anyone on the fence, whenever someone tries to argue about this stuff, I just want you ask one thing: Why though?

"They're going to make us live in pods!"

"Why though?"

"They're gonna make us eat bugs!"

"Why though?"

"They're going to make us do X!"

"Why though?"

I can't stress this enough. Ask this whenever this sort of shit comes up, and then press them more about it.

Why? Why would they do that? What do they get out it? Wouldn't that just make them less money? Why do they care so much? How do they do this? Where do they get this stuff from? Where do they keep it? When did this start happening, and where? Who's idea was this? What's the end goal? Why are they doing this, and not something else? What are they going to afterwards? And then after that?

Ask these questions, and don't let them try to deflect from them. Ask these questions, and watch as their arguments just fall the fuck apart.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

On the other hand, Bane, despite being portrayed as highly intelligent, is one of these retards who think "rich = bad" and would probably spout meme buzzwords like "late stage capitalism" unironically.

I remember thinking when Dark Knight Rises came out "damn, why is Bane the leader of Occupy Wall Street and why are Occupy Wall Street the villains of this movie?" It's probably one of the most capitalist movies from Hollywood out there. I can't imagine something like that coming out today, with the pro-police message and the villains having an army of street thugs.

In all honesty, the Elites aren't that dumb, but they're nowhere near that smart. They're nowhere near intelligent enough to engage in some kind of 4d chess plan that some of you guys are suggesting. Not to mention the Elites actually aren't that united, and actually really fucking hate each other.

Tl;dr: Covid lockdowns weren't put in place to purposefully kill retail and the middle class. Jesus fucking christ, take your fucking meds, and calm your asses down.

They weren't put in place to kill small businesses, but they were part of the reason it was kept in place (along with clamping down on Donald Trump and populists and probably fucking over Russia since oil prices--a major Russian export--crashed in 2020). I hold to the theory that COVID-19 was a test run for all their policies. They want to see how far they can push people, and right now they're seeing a lot of pushback so it's time to slowly ease off until the next scamdemic. The Great Reset is still a thing they want, and right now in America we're "Building Back Better" just like the WEF says we should.

The elites are not particularly intelligent, but not stupid either. They also aren't a cabal, but the vast majority do have a sense of class consciousness that they know to set aside disputes when dealing with the plebs or the rare challenge from within like Trump (who is an elite but seems to have always been an outcast in those circles). They're powerful because they have institutions behind them that can and will grind you into the dust. Look how many laws have been totally disregarded so far and imagine how many more will be if the Joepedo is launched at GME and the stock is locked down and reverted to a month ago and no one sees a penny from this (besides Melvin Capital and their friends of course).

 

[EyelessMC]

And I do agree with you. I just think people need to stop fucking doomposting, and get a grip.

You really don't want to look at what's been going on around you, do you?

Everything will go back to normal. I don't know when, but I do know this lunacy won't last forever.

This says it all right here.
But whatever, this particular aspect of things really shouldn't be dragged across the thread. If you think it's all just nutty talk then link it in another thread and we can all talk and meme about it there, because otherwise things will get bloated.

Flappers are e-thots at worst.

What's Flappers?

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

"They're going to make us live in pods!"

"Why though?"

To concentrate the population into smaller areas in order to be able to maintain control and surveillance on the population. This prevents any meaningful resistance to the assuming power over the population. By moving everyone to large cities it also allows them to go forward with things such as the Great Reset as well as allow huge tracts of land to go back to nature after being strip-mined for resources.

The pods prevent anyone from owning anything too large, keeps everyone with only a napsack or so worth the personal possessions, which can be easily stolen by the criminal underclass. This makes life uncertain and non-permanent, increasing insecurity and causing the people to approve of harsher and harsher surveillance methods 'for their own good'. Audio monitors looking for key words can keep track of conversations and quickly identify wrong-think. Combined with the ability to cause rolling power blackouts to increase insecurity, you quickly have a demoralized population that can be controlled into planned obsolescence.

Add in the fact that they will want 1/3 to 2/3 of your paycheck (automatically deducted) to live in that pod, and you've completely eliminated mobility.

Why? Power.

"They're gonna make us eat bugs!"

"Why though?"

The bug thing has been in the works through 'we're all going to die but bug protein can save us' since the 1970's. By moving all protein consumption to bugs, it increases what some call the 'feminization of the male' as well as gets rid of 'real foods'. This frees up vast amounts of land, which no longer need to be used for farming or ranching, removed industries, and works for the 'make them live in pods' by making it so rather than having huge farms of cattle and foodstuffs they can use tanks of algae and bugs to create artificial food that is based on protein and industrial chemicals.

This has repeated uses, from making sure the diet ensures complacency and reduces aggression (you can be fully fed and still feel exhaustion from lack of trace nutrients that doesn't effect more than energy levels) to be able to slowly change the palate over time to be able to make the food cheaper and cheaper to produce while still keeping the vast tracks of land pristine.

The food being controlled ensures another method of control for a population that is being crammed into the same population density as Manhattan or Tokyo.

"They're going to make us do X!"

"Why though?"

Power. Power and money.

Edit: This is not really my belief, I don't believe they're that capable of carrying it out without the pressure valves malfunctioning, but it is the answer I've gotten examining those points. Many of the people looking at those points turn and show you the UN and World Bank and Ted Talks all showing the above points. Personally, I think it's just the upper class, including the politicians, have just turned into one big appetite that just keeps eating and wanting what everyone else is eating too.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

What's Flappers?

They were those thin girls with the short hair and dresses you'll see in a 20s period piece. Like this.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Power. Power and money.

Power, and money for what? What are they going to do with it? What happens afterwards? What's the end goal?

 

[EyelessMC]

I think we all need to recognize something very clearly: Whether by targeted aims to destroy or by sheer happenstance the result is the same. We shouldn't get too hung up on the potential for conscious or serendipitous conspiracy.

Whether some idiot sets off firecrackers in your house or some terrorist douses the walls in gasoline before lighting a match, the end result is that your house is still on fire.

That's the main point here and what I and other posters are getting at. Even if you don't think there's collusion on any level, the end result of what Wall Street is doing at this time is the exact same.

Power, and money for what? What are they going to do with it? What happens afterwards? What's the end goal?

Great Reset, probably, but who cares? You don't need to personally know the ultimate aim of a criminal to know he's committing criminal acts.
Read above.

 

[Nathan Higgers]

Power, and money for what? What are they going to do with it? What happens afterwards? What's the end goal?

End goal is more power and more money, it becomes an obsession after a while. Jeff Bezos doesn't need another billion, he probably hasn't *needed* the money since he made his first million, but it'd be nice to have it...

While I do find the doomposting to be gay as fuck, I find your naivete even gayer. It's like you're five.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

And I do agree with you. I just think people need to stop fucking doomposting, and get a grip. The pandemic isn't going to last forever. The lockdowns aren't going to last forever. There's still going to be small businesses after the pandemic. Everything will go back to normal. I don't know when, but I do know this lunacy won't last forever.

For anyone on the fence, whenever someone tries to argue about this stuff, I just want you ask one thing: Why though?

"They're going to make us live in pods!"

"Why though?"

"They're gonna make us eat bugs!"

"Why though?"

"They're going to make us do X!"

"Why though?"

I can't stress this enough. Ask this whenever this sort of shit comes up, and then press them more about it.

Why? Why would they do that? What do they get out it? Wouldn't that just make them less money? Why do they care so much? How do they do this? Where do they get this stuff from? Where do they keep it? When did this start happening, and where? Who's idea was this? What's the end goal? Why are they doing this, and not something else? What are they going to afterwards? And then after that?

Ask these questions, and don't let them try to deflect from them. Ask these questions, and watch as their arguments just fall the fuck apart.

Yes, you can make anything sound ridiculous just by constantly asking "why?" like a child does. Eventually you'll get to something that is unknowable, and checkmate, you win the argument, I guess.

 

[Gimmick Account]

Loving how Gamestop BBB, and AMC are somehow equivalent to small businesses in the everything's connected talks.

I don't know who was dumb enough to phrase it that way but on a logarithmic scale dwindling near-dead companies are a lot closer to the shallow end than the guys who can throw around hundreds of billions of dollars, even if they had glory days once. Blockbuster video had 80,000 employees in 2004. In 2019 they had 3. I bet they'd be real easy to bully.
All throughout this event people have been saying "fuck Gamestop, but fuck Wall Street more" so I don't think people are too confused about what they are, it just isn't that relevant.

I think a lot of these kinds of businesses are franchises as well (not blackberry, obviously) but how much that matters to the brick and mortar operators depends on the individual brand.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Power, and money for what? What are they going to do with it? What happens afterwards? What's the end goal?

Power for their own self-preservation. Because it's an uncertain world and even more uncertain future (especially with computers/AI and the internet changing things so much) and THEY want to be on top and make sure no one else can challenge them. It's an exclusive club, look how many go to the same network of schools and attend the same events. The plebs, or even wealthy outsiders, and not invited. Having their Great Reset means they will NEVER need to worry about outsiders inviting themselves to the club and them being forced to either accept them in or have to deal with a potential threat (like Trump--even if he was pretty lazy and bad at the game, someone with his resources and his position who was good at the game could do some real damage to the global elite).

Money isn't really a concern when you're where they're at. It's just a tool for power, that's why Soros spends so much on his "charities" because he doesn't need much more money or assets. It explains why Melvin Capital losing a few billion isn't the bad part for them, the bad part is that it exposed them as weak and made them feel nervous.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Power, and money for what? What are they going to do with it? What happens afterwards? What's the end goal?

More money and more power.

Who the fuck knows? When they're younger it's all about coke and tight pussies. When they get older it's all about diamonds and yachts. When they get old its all about life extension science and tight young pussy.

They're just shooting for the high score. You're looking at them like they have a plan, when they're no different than the people who min-max and get completely autistic over online games. The only difference is its real money rather than virtual numbers. Even then, it ceases to be real money once you get over a couple hundred million. What's left to buy? Really?

It's the same as some weirdo on WoW obsessing over 1/100th of a percent in their attack power or whatever.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

If the elites were really so brilliant to be able to mastermind covid and the lock downs than this whole gme things would of never happened. It would of been shut down at the start.

The government is just equal parts incompetent and too arrogant to ever admit they made a mistake.

 

[world of shit]

"Why though?"

Ah, "the you cannot explain every single possible angle, so thus refuted" pilpul. A bold play.

I could speculate on many motivates, some might be very close to the truth or wacky. But the shot comes down to this: You're currently living through a period of the greatest transfer of wealth to the mega-rich. Do you think this is all just rudderless chaos with no direction? That these 'not very smart' elites are so lucky that all these chips keep landing on black? What I see are things which extremely benefit the elites while also kicking the poor and middle class into the dirt, such that they're only be ultra-rich and poor in the near future. I've seen this same policy since 1980s. I've also seen the people time and time again hate this, vote in new politicians that implement the exact same plans.

With GME, I also see a ridiculous scramble to keep these shorts from skyrocketing into outer space -- to protect one hedge fund!? Normal veteran investors are completely shocked and stunned at these events. I think there's a cascade of overleverage that's going to tip once this goes through, and people are biding time to figure out what to do.

Have you ever been around the mega-rich? Money is the last thing on their minds. Money is what the normal guy chases. This is about wealth: land, resources, influence, things that actually give power.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Invest this shit to the moon its infinite money we just need to hold for a month.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Can you believe after all that's happened it's not even February yet?

2021 is better already

We're reaching levels of conspiratard not thought possible.

I'm grateful this site is a haven of critical thinking but sometimes we think too hard.

You're looking at them like they have a plan, when they're no different than the people who min-max and get completely autistic over online games.

I always wondered what these types of gamers did before we had, well, board and video games to be autistic over.

 

[Rakdos92]

So, what's the current state of things? I have been trying to catch up from page 63 by now, and I stillhave a long way to go. What's the current price for Gamestop stocks? Please tell me it's still over 400$.

 

[TFT-A9]

Nothing that sits at the confluence of power and money happens by sheer fucking accident. There doesn't even need to be a single cohesive plan, it starts with one thing and numerous individuals and groups thereof all see opportunities presented, and it snowballs into any number of other things. It doesn't have to be one grand orchestration, and in fact this approach provides more security for the plunderers as someone could theoretically thwart one of the plans and the others look on and adjust their plans accordingly to meet the new threat. One grand plan to destroy 'Murica or whatever means a single point of attack your opponents can focus on. Break it up into a pack of jackals instead of one big bad wolf and now you've got to keep tabs on and chase down a bunch of motherfuckers who might all be following different playbooks.

 

[Revo]

Yes, you can make anything sound ridiculous just by constantly asking "why?" like a child does. Eventually you'll get to something that is unknowable, and checkmate, you win the argument, I guess.

Asking questions about the world around us = childish thing
This is one of the lamest thing i have ever read on this site, because most of the people (including kids , teens , adults, old people, etc. ) are very curious and very eager to discover new things about this world .