Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[XYZpdq]

https://youtu.be/9CiB6q2D-UE?t=57

James Earl Jones on doing the dank prank of doing the Vader voice

 

[jspit2.0]

So anyone remember that new Darth Vader/Exogol comic from Marvel I talked about a few pages ago which serves as a tie-in for the sequels? Well they retconned it so Vader knew what Palpatine was planning all along yet did nothing to warn his son in nucanon.
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Disney also tried to explain off the fact that the reason Yoda, Kenobi and Anakin's ghosts didn't warn Luke was because he lost his connection to the Force, despite that Yoda appeared just fine just to bully him in TLJ and new material saying that Kenobi and Yoda knew the future as far back as the ending to ROTJ but did nothing because fuck it despite that their order will go extinct along with the Skywalker bloodline due to Rey Palpatine refusing to start her own. Not even a throwaway "the future is always changing" explanation to at least show that even they don't fully know what might happen as there are so many different paths the future could take in visions.

Also this happened for some reason:
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(Pic above is not Dune-related, its one of the newest recurring aliens from Disney that also appears in High Republic.)

Sue they ass Brian.

How long until it gets sabotaged for promoting "hate speech"?

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I guess the first High Republic book was released as I saw it in a local bookstore, and I decided to take a picture of the "opening crawl". I'll transcribe it below:

The Force is with the galaxy.

It is the time of the High Republic: a peaceful union of like-minded worlds where all voices are heard, and governance is achieved through consensus, not coercion or fear. It is an era of ambition, of culture, of inclusion, of Great Works. Visionary Chancellor Lina Soh leads the Republic from the elegant city-world of Coruscant, located near the bright center of the Galactic Core.

But beyond the Core and its many peaceful Colonies, there is the Rim - Inner, Mid, and finally, at the border of what is known: the Outer Rim. These worlds are filled with opportunity for those brave enough to travel the few well-mapped hyperspace lanes leading to them, though there is danger as well. The Outer Rim is a haven for anyone seeking to escape the laws of the Republic, and is filled with predators of every type.

Chancellor Soh has pledged to bring the Outer Rim worlds into the embrace of the Republic through ambitious outreach programs such as the Starlight Beacon. But until it is brought online, order and justice are maintained on the galactic frontier by Jedi Knights, guardians of peace who have mastered incredible abilities stemming from a mysterious energy field known as the Force. The Jedi work closely with the Republic, and have agreed to establish outposts in the Outer Rim to help any who might require aid.

The Jedi of the frontier can be the only resource for people with nowhere else to turn. Though the outposts operate independently and without direct assistance from the great Jedi Temple on Coruscant, they act as an effective deterrent to those who would do evil in the dark.

Few can stand against the Knights of the Jedi Order.

But there are always those who will try ...

 

[James Roancrest]

That doesn't sound like a Star Wars opening crawl....

 

[White Devil]

They just had to sneak sjwspeak in there. "It is an era of inclusion."

I've never, ever seen actual exclusion in SW except for the Imperial military, which didn't like aliens or women but still had both decades before anyone in the real world gave a shit about dumb buzzwords like that.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Here’s my two cents on this video:

Iger is mainly at fault for buying Lucasfilm in the first place. If he wasn’t that delusional about Avengers not making enough profits for him, he would not have challenged Kennedy’s woke agenda. JJ’s at fault as well cowardly following Iger/Kennedy’s orders without questioning them and giving RJ a weak outline to have, though RJ as well didn’t make matters better.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Remember the old version of the Ben Kenobi vs. Maul duel where Old Ben had to actually struggle and it was Uncle Owen who wound up killing Maul?

That was never canon, though.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

That was never canon, though.

Still better than what we got from Rebels. What an insult.

Maul's whole shtick is that he's an excellent lightsaber duelist, and TCW showed that he can be an expert planner when it comes to plotting revenge.

Not to mention that Maul HAD HIS REVENGE ON KENOBI, back in TCW, when he killed Kenobi's woman in front of him. Maul's revenge was complete. Maul should have been more obsessed with killing Sidious post-TCW, to the point where his reaction to Kenobi being alive would be simple amusement instead of being obsessed over it.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Lol.

https://www.piratesandprincesses.net/hasbro-unveils-new-star-wars-figures-to-celebrate-lucasfilms-50th-anniversary-sequel-trilogy-is-missing/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hasbro-unveils-new-star-wars-figures-to-celebrate-lucasfilms-50th-anniversary-sequel-trilogy-is-missing

I want to saw the retro packaging warms my heart to see.
A good choice.
Does this mean the Episode II figures will get the 2002-like packaging?

 

[White Devil]

Hot take :

Them bringing Maul back at all was pretty goddamn retarded.

 

[jspit2.0]

Hot take :

Them bringing Maul back at all was pretty goddamn retarded.

I don't know. Had they done it well, I wouldn't have minded it. The infinity story where it took place rocked.

Oh, and in Old Wounds the fight lasts longer than fifteen seconds.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Hot take :

Them bringing Maul back at all was pretty goddamn retarded.

TCW as a whole was just popcorn filler fun, I couldn't care less so long as I got my pound of flesh.

The Maul episodes were fine, and they were good for fan bait, but for them to end it all in Rebels with Maul getting killed like a bitch by an old man after starving in the desert for days is just really insulting to me as a Sith fan.

I don't know. Had they done it well, I wouldn't have minded it. The infinity story where it took place rocked.

Oh, and in Old Wounds the fight lasts longer than fifteen seconds.

That's what I wanted to see in Twin Suns. Too bad Filoni chickened out and nerfed Maul worse than he nerfed Grievous. At least Kenobi had to struggle to kill the latter, while he killed the former as if he was facing some random thug. Here we have a character as iconic as Darth Vader, a Sith Lord who trained under the same master Vader has, getting killed like a punk by the same guy Vader crushes in the first SW movie.

What a fucking joke.

 

[White Devil]

All I know is that the way Maul died, sliced in half at the torso and falling down a bottomless well, there is no conceivable way to come back from that that I could suspend my disbelief from. It would have been less insulting if they had just cloned him. I never watched or read any of the material post TPM with him, I just remember hearing they brought him back, shaking my head, and going on with my day.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Does this mean the Episode II figures will get the 2002-like packaging?

I hope so. The 2001-2002 AOTC Packaging is my favorite aesthetically. I know most people are fonder of the old Kenner packaging or the Power of the Force II packaging, but I always loved this aesthetic and logo. Especially since the art pays homage to the 1983 poster for ROTJ.

 

[jspit2.0]

All I know is that the way Maul died, sliced in half at the torso and falling down a bottomless well, there is no conceivable way to come back from that that I could suspend my disbelief from. It would have been less insulting if they had just cloned him. I never watched or read any of the material post TPM with him, I just remember hearing they brought him back, shaking my head, and going on with my day.

Hmm. Okay, see this.

Lightsaber's cauterize wounds. Maul falls in an industrialized palace and has the force. Anakin fell in fucking lava and was able to survive. No one's suggesting Maul is in one piece or feels good.

Does that help any? I'm kinda split. On one hand, death should be permanent. On the other, why couldn't a Sith Lord survive?

 

[White Devil]

Hmm. Okay, see this.

Lightsaber's cauterize wounds. Maul falls in an industrialized palace and has the force. Anakin fell in fucking lava and was able to survive. No one's suggesting Maul is in one piece or feels good.

Does that help any? I'm kinda split. On one hand, death should be permanent. On the other, why couldn't a Sith Lord survive?

Maul literally falls down a bottomless well. Anakin just got dismembered and a bad sunburn, and then had medical assistance not long after. I seriously doubt half a Maul floated his ass up god knows how many meters and then some kind stranger took pity on this satanic looking lump after a planetary invasion. Sure as hell the droids and Nemoidians didn't pick his ass up. There's just too much bullshit to suspend disbelief when it comes to Maul, whereas Anakin is a ton more plausible because you can actually see what happens.

EDIT: To address Mississippi, yeah I'm fonder of the old Power of the Force packaging with Vader because thats what I grew up with. Just how it goes I guess.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

All I know is that the way Maul died, sliced in half at the torso and falling down a bottomless well, there is no conceivable way to come back from that that I could suspend my disbelief from. It would have been less insulting if they had just cloned him. I never watched or read any of the material post TPM with him, I just remember hearing they brought him back, shaking my head, and going on with my day.

I just assumed he pulled some Darth Sion shit about how rage can keep you alive even with extreme stress. Maybe he was one of the few who could pull it off.

 

[jspit2.0]

Maul literally falls down a bottomless well. Anakin just got dismembered and a bad sunburn, and then had medical assistance not long after. I seriously doubt half a Maul floated his ass up god knows how many meters and then some kind stranger took pity on this satanic looking lump after a planetary invasion. Sure as hell the droids and Nemoidians didn't pick his ass up. There's just too much bullshit to suspend disbelief when it comes to Maul, whereas Anakin is a ton more plausible because you can actually see what happens.

EDIT: To address Mississippi, yeah I'm fonder of the old Power of the Force packaging with Vader because thats what I grew up with. Just how it goes I guess.

I just assumed he pulled some Darth Sion shit about how rage can keep you alive even with extreme stress. Maybe he was one of the few who could pull it off.

Me too more or less. Anakin's was less a sunburn and more a lava from a volcano that stripped his flesh off, but I understand all the same. Being bisected usually is the end of the story.

 

[Creep3r]

I don't know. Had they done it well, I wouldn't have minded it. The infinity story where it took place rocked.

Oh, and in Old Wounds the fight lasts longer than fifteen seconds.

As much as I liked this story, I always preferred it best as being a non-canon what-if story, or what one Lucasfilm editor claimed, that it was just a twisted dark side vision/nightmare Obi-Wan had (I think it was Leland Chee who made that claim). Mostly because Maul's story was over and done with and at the end of the day, despite his strength and training, the man was always just Palpatine's expendable living weapon to blindly obey him, not some potential successor or someone who looked like he had the capacity to be the next Sion or Simus; to be more specific, Maul was raw power and brute force, not mysticism and spirituality like Sion, Simus, Palpatine. Only time in old canon Maul ever did "come back" (before Filoni Wars) was as a facsimile made by Palpatine fanboys seeking to usurp Vader due to seeing him as unworthy of being Palpatine's apprentice for being a former jedi, and that went about as well as you'd expect, and it was left ambiguous as to whether or not that Maul was a clone or some crafty dark side construct/illusion. Still, if I had to pick between Disney's Maul or Old Wounds Maul, I'd have to settle for the second, especially since he fucks Watto's shit up.

On a side note (because I feel like griefing about this so fuck it), a minor thing that always bothered me about the Filoni Wars retcon to Maul's origins (aside from the Dathomir shit and making him no longer a zabrak, among other things) was making it so his birth name was always Maul as given to him by his mother rather than his darth name, despite that the Darth title is a whole new title for those who've ascended in the path of the Sith. Hell they even gave his brothers sith names like Feral and Savage ffs which makes them sound like some goth girl's fanfic about Maul (but considering how much George's daughter was involved with that buildup alongside Filoni, its not that shocking). Before that, his birth name was never alluded to, and that he was just some poor child taken away from a family he'll never know by Palpatine and that his real name was unknown even to him, once stating:

What was my name? I don't know. It doesn't matter. My former name represents a death… - Darth Maul

A fitting description. On an amusing but related note, back in the 2000s, some lying asshole called ShadowGuy who ran a faux SW site claimed that Maul's real name was Sarin and the faggots at Wookieepedo actually believed him and kept that name up for years even when ShadowGuy was btfo by people at Lucasfilm. Further proof that Wookieepedo is unreliable as fuck outside of quick references.

I hope so. The 2001-2002 AOTC Packaging is my favorite aesthetically. I know most people are fonder of the old Kenner packaging or the Power of the Force II packaging, but I always loved this aesthetic and logo. Especially since the art pays homage to the 1983 poster for ROTJ.

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I was never into toy collecting much, but these were certainly pleasing to the eye. Maybe its the blue aesthetic, idk.

Also didn't know where else to post this, so I thought "why not here?"

 

[jspit2.0]

As much as I liked this story, I always preferred it best as being a non-canon what-if story, or what one Lucasfilm editor claimed, that it was just a twisted dark side vision/nightmare Obi-Wan had (I think it was Leland Chee who made that claim). Mostly because Maul's story was over and done with and at the end of the day, despite his strength and training, the man was always just Palpatine's expendable living weapon to blindly obey him, not some potential successor or someone who looked like he had the capacity to be the next Sion or Simus; to be more specific, Maul was raw power and brute force, not mysticism and spirituality like Sion or Simus. Only time in old canon Maul ever did "come back" (before Filoni Wars) was as a facsimile made by Palpatine fanboys seeking to usurp Vader due to seeing him as unworthy of being Palpatine's apprentice for being a former jedi, and that went about as well as you'd expect, and it was left ambiguous as to whether or not that Maul was a clone or some crafty dark side construct/illusion. Still, if I had to pick between Disney's Maul or Old Wounds Maul, I'd have to settle for the second, especially since he fucks Watto's shit up.
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On a side note (because I feel like griefing about this so fuck it), a minor thing that always bothered me about the Filoni Wars retcon to Maul's origins (aside from the Dathomir shit and making him no longer a zabrak, among other things) was making it so his birth name was always Maul as given to him by his mother rather than his darth name, despite that the Darth title is a whole new title for those who've ascended in the path of the Sith. Hell they even gave his brothers sith names like Feral and Savage ffs which makes them sound like some goth girl's fanfic about Maul (but considering how much George's daughter was involved with that buildup alongside Filoni, its not that shocking). Before that, his birth name was never alluded to, and that he was just some poor child taken away from a family he'll never know by Palpatine and that his real name was unknown even to him, once stating:

A fitting description. On an amusing but related note, back in the 2000s, some lying asshole called ShadowGuy who ran a faux SW site claimed that Maul's real name was Sarin and the faggots at Wookieepedo actually believed him and kept that name up for years even when ShadowGuy was btfo by people at Lucasfilm. Further proof that Wookieepedo is unreliable as fuck outside of quick references.


I was never into toy collecting much, but these were certainly pleasing to the eye. Maybe its the blue aesthetic, idk.

Also didn't know where else to post this, so I thought "why not here?"
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I'd have no problem with an "it's all canon" approach at this point. My only caveat is I want clearly delineated lines. No crossing the streams. There's crappy Rey Palpatine universe and there's a real classic post Endor canon.

Make stories. Some will be bad, others will be damn good. Some like Old Wounds can be left to each fan. Others can be interwoven. But what I dislike is the attempt to rehash everything. If you can't come up with your own stuff that can exist on its own feet, faithfully adapt the source material.