Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I just assumed he pulled some Darth Sion shit about how rage can keep you alive even with extreme stress. Maybe he was one of the few who could pull it off.

Me too more or less. Anakin's was less a sunburn and more a lava from a volcano that stripped his flesh off, but I understand all the same. Being bisected usually is the end of the story.

I mean even if we give him the benefit of the Darth Sion doubt, how did he get back up from that shaft? He was clearly falling down the middle of it, in two halves mind you. He has to get over his shock of a padawan ruining his shit, come to the realization that his body is now in several locations at once, realize he is in absolute free fall, then gather enough focus past what must be searing fucking pain of having the trapped heat of a sun slice through your body and to not panic while in said free fall. After all that, he now has to arrest said free fall. He doesn't have his saber, and it probably fell further than he did at this point. Yes, I know I am completely over analyzing and rationalizing it but even in the realms of sci fi bullshit, Maul's return is just not plausible. I don't think Lucas ever meant for him to be more than a throwaway villain for the first prequel movie and a toy marketing device.
 
I mean even if we give him the benefit of the Darth Sion doubt, how did he get back up from that shaft? He was clearly falling down the middle of it, in two halves mind you. He has to get over his shock of a padawan ruining his shit, come to the realization that his body is now in several locations at once, realize he is in absolute free fall, then gather enough focus past what must be searing fucking pain of having the trapped heat of a sun slice through your body and to not panic while in said free fall. After all that, he now has to arrest said free fall. He doesn't have his saber, and it probably fell further than he did at this point. Yes, I know I am completely over analyzing and rationalizing it but even in the realms of sci fi bullshit, Maul's return is just not plausible. I don't think Lucas ever meant for him to be more than a throwaway villain for the first prequel movie and a toy marketing device.

Possibly. Still, Old Wounds is a cool one off story that is self contained and does all concerned justice.

Had it stayed to that, I think it would have been fine.
 
I mean even if we give him the benefit of the Darth Sion doubt, how did he get back up from that shaft? He was clearly falling down the middle of it, in two halves mind you. He has to get over his shock of a padawan ruining his shit, come to the realization that his body is now in several locations at once, realize he is in absolute free fall, then gather enough focus past what must be searing fucking pain of having the trapped heat of a sun slice through your body and to not panic while in said free fall. After all that, he now has to arrest said free fall. He doesn't have his saber, and it probably fell further than he did at this point. Yes, I know I am completely over analyzing and rationalizing it but even in the realms of sci fi bullshit, Maul's return is just not plausible. I don't think Lucas ever meant for him to be more than a throwaway villain for the first prequel movie and a toy marketing device.
That was the plan. But the fans wanted more. "Maul barely said anything!" they said. "Maul should have done more!" they said. So they literally used space magic to make it so that he not only survived the fall, but managed to craft robot spider legs and survive in some dumpster planet. Because if there's one thing Lucas does, it's attempt to please the fans, be it lessening Jar Jar's role, bringing back Darth Maul, or selling to Disney because RLM spergs thought that Disney and JJ Abrams can do a better job running Star Wars when compared to its creator.

My guess? He landed in some junk receptacle that MIGHT have cushioned the fall.
 
They just had to sneak sjwspeak in there. "It is an era of inclusion."

I've never, ever seen actual exclusion in SW except for the Imperial military, which didn't like aliens or women but still had both decades before anyone in the real world gave a shit about dumb buzzwords like that.

"sneak in"? the whole first paragraph is retarded pozz

>it is the time of the High Republic: a peaceful union of like-minded worlds
like minded? no shit, people that don't like each other much or are too extreme usually don't form a union or battle each other. still doesn't mean there's no conflict ever anywhere. it's not called "star peace" for a reason.

>where all voices are heard,
what does that even mean? all voices in the union? coruscant? the galaxy? ffs I've seen young teen media aimed at girls involved horses and farms and shit that were more realistic and less retarded.
first sentence and I'm already pissed.

>and governance is achieved through consensus, not coercion or fear.
so, a democracy? a benevolent monarchy? fucking what you twats? "governance" means fuck all! either explain it properly or not at all.

>It is an era of ambition, of culture, of inclusion, of Great Works.
that shit reads like stacy's high-school essay about the weimar republic. and wait a minute, isn't that shit set 200 years before the OT, and the decline was like 1000 years slow which is why shit happened the way it did in the first place? how can you be at the apex merely 200 years where there still enough species around to remember that shit?

>Visionary Chancellor Lina Soh leads the Republic from the elegant city-world of Coruscant, located near the bright center of the Galactic Core.
elegant? oh fuck off.

I was never into toy collecting much, but these were certainly pleasing to the eye. Maybe its the blue aesthetic, idk.

I'm just glad my boi jarjar gets some love (while taking a lowkey shit on nuwars)
now give me a darth version hasbro, I'm throwing money at the screen but nothings happening!

Yes, I know I am completely over analyzing and rationalizing it but even in the realms of sci fi bullshit, Maul's return is just not plausible. I don't think Lucas ever meant for him to be more than a throwaway villain for the first prequel movie and a toy marketing device.

"rage and anger kept him alive", usually doesn't take anything more than that. not the biggest fan of bringing him back either - because moves like that usually involves giving characters more backstory when that is usually piss-poor executed even with the best intention either fucking up people's headcanon or explain shit that doesn't need explaining, thus "demystifying" the character way too much. maul was a bad ass villain, nothing more nothing less, and nothing I need to know more of.

but fwiw dark forces 2 had it's own levitating sith, if they would have brought maul back as a twist (only to be defeated again) that could've been a nice nod.
 
I mean yeah, Rule of Cool trumps all and this is Star Wars. My rational adult brain just doesn't like it.
Everything about Star Wars is rule of cool. The Jedi, the Sith, the Empire, the Alliance, the Republic, even the Mandalorians. They're all designed on what is cool and what is appealing to the common sci-fi chump. That's a lesson Disney has yet to understand every time they keep trying to shove LGBT/SJW crap down people's throats. It's not appealing. It's not cool. There's a difference between the lesbo character who's there for SJW points and the lesbo anime ecchi character who's there for the sake of cheesecake, the latter is actually appealing. And SW started off as a series that's meant to appeal to everyone through rule of cool, not preach social justice nonsense to people. When Lucas tried to use SW to preach libertarianism to the normies, more than half the people didn't get it and just blasted him. Star Wars started off as a series that's all about rule of cool, and it is at its strongest when it focuses on rule of cool.
 
What is the story behind Obi-Wan's red robe?

It is the time of the High Republic: a peaceful union of like-minded worlds where all voices are heard, and governance is achieved through consensus, not coercion or fear.
How could all voices be heard and how could there be a consensus when they are all "like-minded"?
It is an era of ambition, of culture, of inclusion, of Great Works.
This is like a teenager talking. "Dude, if there was no famine and no war, we would be exploring space by now". Ambition and inovations don't always come in time of peace when everybody is too busy smelling their own farts.
Also what does "inclusion" even mean? They all share the same ideas, the same opinion, it's a hive mind, not an "inclusive" Republic.
 
What is the story behind Obi-Wan's red robe?
The Lucasfilm 50th Anniversary figure is based on the original 1977 Kenner figure.

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What is the story behind Obi-Wan's red robe?


How could all voices be heard and how could there be a consensus when they are all "like-minded"?

This is like a teenager talking. "Dude, if there was no famine and no war, we would be exploring space by now". Ambition and inovations don't always come in time of peace when everybody is too busy smelling their own farts.
Also what does "inclusion" even mean? They all share the same ideas, the same opinion, it's a hive mind, not an "inclusive" Republic.
My guess is that it is a general sentiment of peace, a galactic pax romana. That there is no galactic conflict, massively corrupt government, vast genocidal extragalactic invasion, etc. But there are disagreements, local conflicts, and problems to be resolved. Yet the two parties have confidence that their issues could be addressed through the government, that they feel included in the Senate.

Now if the writers were smart, they would show this trust breaking down, "inclusion" goes away in favor of entrenched powers. But I have a feeling that the High Republic is going to represent the ideal neoliberal "end of history" world as coined by Francis Fukuyama. And that its fall will come from outside authoritarian powers and historical forces of bigotry. Though I might let it slide if they straight up make one of the villains be an orange hutt with blond hair, just for the brazen unsubtlety.
 
I mean yeah, Rule of Cool trumps all and this is Star Wars. My rational adult brain just doesn't like it.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around it because Maul just had no more to tell as far as his purpose went. I could understand how he did it (even though I think he's too meatheaded to pull off a Sion or Simus; not saying he was stupid though as he was technologically gifted, but not particularly spiritual and relied on tech to combat other Force users and mainly relied on lightning and choking as far as Force moves went), but then you bring him back, so now what? You stretch it out for a bit longer, make him a major villain that talks too much and then Disney ends it with a mediocre fight on Tatooine with Space Aladdin as a witness (sure the emotional last moments with them are good, better than Old Wounds in that regard, but what leads up to it and everything surrounding it is just so mediocre that its hard to enjoy, unless you take the scene by itself and edit out Aladdin and pre-existing references; especially since such a fight should be done as a special or higher budget event). I mean I'm not adverse to the idea of him coming back, at least if its just for revenge on Kenobi, I just find him being a major recurring antagonist and then tying him too so many characters as being forced as fuck. Its obvious why Filoni did it that way since CGI shit is limited, so they just arsed it by tying him into the Ventress story arc so they wouldn't have to make new assets for an Iridonia arc.

And on that note, I found it odd how people who bitched about Boba Fett, Palpatine and K'Kruhk (the Genndy Wars whiphid jedi who Grievous "killed") returning was considered too much or completely impossible back before it became okay to like the first and the second because Disney did it, but Maul was completely fine and made total sense in their eyes despite his revival lacking exposition and his return relying on convenient coincidences. Feels like the main reason for accepting Maul's revival so easily was solely because one was on TV and the others happened in comics which people didn't want to be bothered to find. Its also possible that its Filoni Wars kiddy nostalgia considering how many grew up with that show without ever watching the films or the rest of the franchise first. But like I said before, a revived Maul works better as a one shot story or special rather than as a recurring character imo. @Mississippi Motorboater you're still keeping track of Redditor and forum activity these days right? If so what's the most common perception on the subject this time around? All I know is fags like HelloGreedo used to bitch endlessly about bringing back characters like Boba and Palpatine but creamed themselves over Maul because he was part of a "super popular hit show" and later actually liking Boba's come back in Mando despite also lacking in the way of exposition, and being as "nice as possible" about Palpatine in IX. Which brings me to people like HelloGreedo that bitched about anything outside the movies being worthless because they didn't have George's involvement, but then simultaneously complain about wanting George gone, followed by then slobbing Disney's knob for the SW content they produce despite having zero input from George. Not even a seal of approval beyond a mild comment and a signature on a contract like most previous material in the franchise.

if they straight up make one of the villains be an orange hutt with blond hair, just for the brazen unsubtlety.
Well there is a hutt villain called Mygorgo in this shit. Now to wait and see if they're insane enough to make him orange and give him blonde hair. Then again, a villain from the Chinese High Republic novel is the corrupt president of a planet that is a USA analogue from what I've heard. No idea if he's orange or not though.
 
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But like I said before, a revived Maul works better as a one shot story or special rather than as a recurring character imo. @Mississippi Motorboater you're still keeping track of Redditor and forum activity these days right? If so what's the most common perception on the subject this time around? All I know is fags like HelloGreedo used to bitch endlessly about bringing back characters like Boba and Palpatine but creamed themselves over Maul because he was part of a "super popular hit show" and later actually liking Boba's come back in Mando despite also lacking in the way of exposition, and being as "nice as possible" about Palpatine in IX.
Between classes resuming and FOTJ devouring all of my spare time, I haven't really revisited any of the usual wellsprings of Reddit autism in a while. But the last time I was there, the common consensus on Maul returning was almost universally positive.

A lot of it comes from the Filoni Fags who believe that everything he touches turns to gold (even though he didn't write or conceive the arc in which Maul comes back), and are using his resurrection as one of the primary examples of the TCW "fixing" the Prequels, and giving Maul an actual character...even though he already had that in pre-existing material like Shadow Hunter and the Darth Maul comics.

It's just another example of people trying to credit Filoni with everything, and deifying him as some kind of savior of Star Wars. Attitudes like this have only skyrocketed in the wake of Blandalorian, which everyone outside of the ST Defense Force is hailing as the second coming of Christ.
 
So, are there any YouTube channels that aren't grifters and/or Soy-guzzlers? I want quality* SW content, I'll even take YouTube channels at this point, though that might be an oxymoron.

*Quality = Not total shit or embarassing to watch.
Captain Fordo (AKA Manda-Lore) has some decent videos defending and explaining the Expanded Universe (including a couple of hour-plus ones where he systematically dissects TCW's corrosive effect on established continuity like some sort of autistic brain surgeon) but some may find his voice and delivery a bit difficult to listen to. Saintmillion has a really good video on the making of Shadows of the Empire (haven't checked any of his other stuff yet) and generally speaking, anything that So Uncivilized puts out seems to be worth viewing, so far as I've seen.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around it because Maul just had no more to tell as far as his purpose went. I could understand how he did it (even though I think he's too meatheaded to pull off a Sion or Simus), but then you bring him back, so now what? You stretch it out for a bit longer, make him a major villain that talks too much and then Disney ends it with a mediocre fight on Tatooine with Space Aladdin as a witness. I mean I'm not adverse to the idea of him coming back, at least if its just for revenge on Kenobi, I just find him being a major recurring antagonist and then tying him too so many characters as being forced as fuck. Its obvious why Filoni did it that way since CGI shit is limited, so they just arsed it by tying him into the Ventress story arc so they wouldn't have to make new assets for an Iridonia arc.
As @Mississippi Motorboater noted, it seems like one of the ongoing, systemic problems with TCW was a deeply-embedded feeling of need to "fix" the perceived problems of the Prequel Trilogy, so the series is full of eye-rolling moments like Anakin roid-raging on random Separatists to "foreshadow" his fall to the Dark Side, Palpatine being cartoonishly, transparently evil, Padme (fruitlessly) running around doing things, Grievous becoming a complete incompetent and Darth Maul being brought back from a fiery, bisected death in the depths of the Theed municipal power plant to rather pointlessly dick around in the background before ultimately dying in Obi-Wan's arms some years later (which last part, at least, was handled pretty nicely, to be perfectly fair).

Of course, Maul's return could also just be the result of pure, "wouldn't it be cool?" fanboy stupidity like sticking wolf references everywhere, giving Ahsoka a battalion of Clone Troopers who love her so much that they literally paint her face on their helmets or having Coruscant attacked by a giant, quadrupedal tapeworm because I guess Godzilla movies are a thing.

And on that note, I found it odd how people who bitched about Boba Fett, Palpatine and K'Kruhk (the Genndy Wars whiphid jedi who Grievous "killed") returning was considered too much or completely impossible back before it became okay to like the first and the second because Disney did it, but Maul was completely fine and made total sense in their eyes despite his revival lacking exposition and his return relying on convenient coincidences. Feels like the main reason for accepting Maul's revival so easily was solely because one was on TV and the others happened in comics which people didn't want to be bothered to find. Its also possible that its Filoni Wars kiddy nostalgia considering how many grew up with that show without ever watching the films or the rest of the franchise first. But like I said before, a revived Maul works better as a one shot story or special rather than as a recurring character imo. @Mississippi Motorboater you're still keeping track of Redditor and forum activity these days right? If so what's the most common perception on the subject this time around? All I know is fags like HelloGreedo used to bitch endlessly about bringing back characters like Boba and Palpatine but creamed themselves over Maul because he was part of a "super popular hit show" and later actually liking Boba's come back in Mando despite also lacking in the way of exposition, and being as "nice as possible" about Palpatine in IX.
That's an excellent point. Boba Fett has always been an extremely popular character, but he's also had, for the longest time, an extremely vocal set of detractors, with his escape from the Sarlaac and consequent post-ROTJ exploits being a source of great rage and derision from the same (and beyond the hardcore haters, mocking the character was pretty much a cliche of online nerd culture for decades). In the wake of Fett's appearance in The Mandalorian, however, it seems like things largely flipped from "Boba Fett survived the Sarlaac, so stupid," to "Boba Fett survived the Sarlaac, so awesome!" practically overnight, with the change coming, so far as I can tell, directly and solely from the character appearing in live-action again. It's a pretty sad commentary on our culture when you think about it. You can pen a well-written story about a man waging a battle of wills against a telepathic and malignant hivemind of Lovecraftian proportions, while fighting to escape from the guts of the same creature, and people will brush it off as fanboy nonsense, but have the same man appear, without explanation, and effortlessly gun down whole squads of armed soldiers on your TV screen and suddenly it's the best thing ever. 🤔
 
Hell, might as well riff on the crawl too...
The Force is with the galaxy.
Not even the writer knows what this means. Also a clear case of not understanding that the force is always with you if you live.
It is the time of the High Republic: a peaceful union of like-minded worlds where all voices are heard, and governance is achieved through consensus, not coercion or fear.
This is of course why the Outer Rim traditionally was ignored and neglected in every single take on the republic but this one, especially by those in the Core Systems.
It is an era of ambition, of culture, of inclusion, of Great Works.
Hence why we never heard of any of this until now.
Visionary Chancellor Lina Soh leads the Republic from the elegant city-world of Coruscant, located near the bright center of the Galactic Core.
This person never had to go to the ghetto for anything. Seriously, Coruscant even then is a giant Hive World basically, including the slums the further you get from the peaks of the super skyscrapers.
But beyond the Core and its many peaceful Colonies, there is the Rim - Inner, Mid, and finally, at the border of what is known: the Outer Rim. These worlds are filled with opportunity for those brave enough to travel the few well-mapped hyperspace lanes leading to them, though there is danger as well. The Outer Rim is a haven for anyone seeking to escape the laws of the Republic, and is filled with predators of every type.
Basic Western set up; probably rewritten to be like this due to the accidental success (in the minds of Disney) of the Mandalorian. Also very amusing that they are supporting the Core Worlds in this, you know, the group more likely to be xenophobic and wanting to remove ET?
Chancellor Soh has pledged to bring the Outer Rim worlds into the embrace of the Republic through ambitious outreach programs such as the Starlight Beacon.
Translation: It is a time of war. Because just sending gibs over won't necessarily work in getting worlds to join you, it just makes puppet states at best and/or can breed resentment if they get effectively debted into servitude. This little dribble almost feels like something more out of Star Trek in terms of the intended ethos here, but I know the amoeba writing this didn't watch that either.
But until it is brought online, order and justice are maintained on the galactic frontier by Jedi Knights, guardians of peace who have mastered incredible abilities stemming from a mysterious energy field known as the Force.
I guess they're going whole hog on there being no army. That was always something I didn't get tbh, since you'd think you'd at least have militias or something.

Also the winner of the most clunky introduction to Jedi ever goes to...
The Jedi work closely with the Republic, and have agreed to establish outposts in the Outer Rim to help any who might require aid.
Also to take kids from the parents and induct into the order.
The Jedi of the frontier can be the only resource for people with nowhere else to turn.
Because of course the Outer Rim folk can't fend for themselves. They're too not-human and non-civilized to be able to do it.
Though the outposts operate independently and without direct assistance from the great Jedi Temple on Coruscant, they act as an effective deterrent to those who would do evil in the dark.
You mean the Hutts? Because them and pirates are all I can think of beyond the stupid Mad Max Motherfuckers you idiots made your villains here, and I don't count those.
Few can stand against the Knights of the Jedi Order.
Mainly because this is a time of peace, but ignore that my OCs are totally bad-ass!
But there are always those who will try ...
Because Glorbo the Hutt and his spice trade would totally pick a fight rather than just use things like bribery or whatever.

Pretty bad title crawl here tbh.

Also amusing they're doing with Filoni what the old base did with George; ignoring how much of how Mandalorian was a team effort and that one faction being off would've made the show worse.

It's amazing how the same fucking mistakes get made on both sides.
 
Basic Western set up; probably rewritten to be like this due to the accidental success (in the minds of Disney) of the Mandalorian.
If you were told that there is a Star Wars series with Jedi cowboys, wouldn't that excite you just a little bit? It's funny, Lucas was influenced by Kurosawa who was influenced by Westerns. Now it comes full circle with Star Wars being influenced by those same Westerns.
 
If you were told that there is a Star Wars series with Jedi cowboys, wouldn't that excite you just a little bit? It's funny, Lucas was influenced by Kurosawa who was influenced by Westerns. Now it comes full circle with Star Wars being influenced by those same Westerns.
That only works if I have any faith in the people behind the project. I honestly believe that a team of lobotomized bonobos managed by a schizophrenic bum on meth could make a better product than any of the protoplasmic entities Disney hires can manage.

What I'm trying to say is no. I have no excitement in my blood; it is as dead as when I am about to eat spaghetti with bland canned sauce.
 
That only works if I have any faith in the people behind the project. I honestly believe that a team of lobotomized bonobos managed by a schizophrenic bum on meth could make a better product than any of the protoplasmic entities Disney hires can manage.

What I'm trying to say is no. I have no excitement in my blood; it is as dead as when I am about to eat spaghetti with bland canned sauce.
I'm only excited for its failure. just to see how badly this project will flop and fuck up the lore. It's not like I view this shit as the true Star Wars story.
 
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