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When was the last time RvB was good?

  • Before RWBY

    Votes: 61 62.9%
  • Season 10

    Votes: 22 22.7%
  • Season 11

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Season 12

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Season 13

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • Season 14

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Before RvB Zero

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    97
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Ashley because she was dating Burnie
Meg because she was dating Gavin
Mica because her dad is Levar Burton
Arryn was Miles' gf at the time
Andy because he was friends with Michael and Lindsey on IB
Miles and Kerry having zero qualifications for their roles other than they were working there at the time
Barbara was a community hire back in the day who is now creative director and just look at the trajectory of the veiws

Probably more examples that we'll never know about in terms of behind-the-scenes but RT seems to hate the thought of having to replace its current heads with people that actually know how to run an animation studio or even a competant YT channel.
I'm positive Katie got a position because she was dating Jack.
 
Ashley because she was dating Burnie
Meg because she was dating Gavin
Mica because her dad is Levar Burton
Arryn was Miles' gf at the time
Andy because he was friends with Michael and Lindsey on IB
Miles and Kerry having zero qualifications for their roles other than they were working there at the time
Barbara was a community hire back in the day who is now creative director and just look at the trajectory of the veiws

Probably more examples that we'll never know about in terms of behind-the-scenes but RT seems to hate the thought of having to replace its current heads with people that actually know how to run an animation studio or even a competant YT channel.

I'm positive Katie got a position because she was dating Jack.

I also assume Alanah got hired for dating Blaine.

Ok, so I was correct. None of those hires were actual nepotism including Mica since Levar has never worked for RT.
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I have seen this nepotism claim before about RT. Are there any actual examples of this? I get the feeling the people complaining are just changing the definition of the word nepotism to cover the company hires people they don't like...like white men.

You can trace back all misogyny culture claims and the unhealthy obsession with coworker's skin color and gender to when they decided to go woke and hire people that don't fit their gamer and humor culture but fit the anti-enlightenment left's acceptable biographical boxes. You never see all this bitching from the employees at Barstool. Why? Because they hire people that fit the business model and not hire people to score political points. RT reaps what they sowed.
Considering the only people who seem to get promotions (Gavin, Miles, Kerry, etc.) have very little actual experience in upper management and have done a pretty poor job when given more responsibilities are friends with the bosses, yeah that's textbook nepotism.

Also, there is a broader definition for nepotism.

Nepotism,

"the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs."
 
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Jack's softcore porno gig was just showing up in the background of a strip club before any action went down. Not much to talk about.

I have seen this nepotism claim before about RT.
It's mostly true, they've been hiring friends since their second office.

Out of AH:
Jack was hired because he played poker with the RT guys
Michael was recruited by Geoff because of his Rage Quit videos
Gavin was brought in because he played Halo with Burnie and Geoff, eventually hired full-time but it took Slow-Mo Guys taking off to get there
Ray was from the community, friends with Geoff, Michael, and Gavin
Ryan was hired interviewed and hired locally
Lindsay was originally hired by a different department and eventually moved to AH
Trevor was hired through the community
Matt & Jeremy were hired from the community
Mica: ???? No secret that they cared more about her father than her, but she came through the community
Alfredo was recruited because of his work in Kinda Funny
Fiona was recruited by Geoff, I just don't know from where

Out of RT Core:
Barbara was recruited after doing RTX Canada and being the only girl on the website for the first couple years
Kerry was a superfan and begged to be an intern and worked up from there (He was one of their first handful of employees)
Miles was hired from the community (I think?)
Ashley was a FragDoll before so she was in the industry but got hired after dating Burnie
Meg was a Cosplayer and Burnie set her up with Gavin, but she got the job because she was already friends with Burnie
Aryn was an RTX staff member, got hired because she had a cult following and dated Miles later

The rest:
Andy was hired as an editor because he was friends with Michael. He was extremely bad at it.
Allanah worked for several other gaming content channels before Funhaus and dating Blaine came way after she was already working for them

So yeah, most of RT's on-screen talent has always been hiring friends or people from the community. The Proto RT was Gus and Geoff trying to start a gaming website for free games, Burnie and Matt were the only two from the founders who actually had management experience and Burnie just hired a bunch of his friends to do voices. Gus wasn't even in the country for like a year of RvB recordings, the reason why there's a voice filter on RvB is because Gus was recording from overseas so they used the filter to mask his low mic quality.

They're an internet entertainment company, almost everyone's going to be hired because they were already friends with someone else in the company
 
They're an internet entertainment company, almost everyone's going to be hired because they were already friends with someone else in the company
Yeah, and then you get to watch your friend promote his girlfriend to a high, better paying position because she sucks the bosses dick.
 
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Kerry was a superfan and begged to be an intern and worked up from there (He was one of their first handful of employees)

Bet he regrets this now.

Miles was hired from the community (I think?)

He was an intern; he attended the U of Austin for undergrad and did a short internship at RT before being hired full-time. Not sure if he was a fan before his internship, but I'm going to assume so. I believe Blaine had the same experience.

They're an internet entertainment company, almost everyone's going to be hired because they were already friends with someone else in the company

It's hard for me to judge them TOO harshly for this, as it really did make sense in their early days to only hire friends, given how small they were and how reliant their income was on being funny and playing off each other well (which they undeniably did back then). I can understand their reasoning for doing so up until they started taking on interns. Once they got big enough that they were able to recruit from the local university for fresh talent, they should have put a pause on the nepotism hires. It had been serving them well enough before, but not every person they know is interesting enough to be a celebrity, and it became pretty clear that they'd run that well dry around the time they hired Miles and Kerry to take on their lead IP, at which point they promptly ran it into the ground. The last 5-6 years seem to be a cautionary tale for what happens if you go too far down this path.

Also, lest we forget the obvious issue staring us in the face: What happens if those relationships fail? For example, Burnie was married in the early RT days. He had the good sense to not include her in RT content too much, beyond the occasional story or brief appearance (the only thing I remember her being in was a very early RTAA). What if he'd included his ex-wife much more frequently and had to deal with that as a legal issue during their divorce (i.e. does she get some kind of royalty payout for letting her image be used)? Or how about the fact that Arryn and Miles broke up while Miles is spearheading RWBY and Arryn voices one of the damn titular main characters? I'm sure they're professionals (as much as one can be at RT, anyhow), but that doesn't get rid of the awkwardness and possibility of tension between coworkers due to the intermingling; it's one of the major consequences of hiring in this manner.


This is a literal Pandora's Box. It could be a bit, but it could be the real thing... either way, I'm terrified to open it and unleash this evil upon the world.
 
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If you're talking about cautionary tales about bringing in people you're dating/married to into the company, Geoff's marriage is the biggest example. His ex wife Griffon was in a ton of their early podcasts, wrote their online comic (The prototype to the RTAA), appeared in a bunch of their other shows like Immersion, and they made a show together with the unfortunate premise of interviewing other RT couples called "Relationship Goals" (Ironically enough, a third of the couples on the show have already broken up too)

I think RT is in a sweet spot right now as a podcast company, that's been some of their best content in years in my opinion. I feel like they went a little too far when they were acquired with ambitions of being a large-scale production company with basically independent product values and over-spent on a lot of shows the RT fanbase really just weren't that interested in. Some of it was a hit, others were huge misses, I still loved Haunter and Day5 but they couldn't sell it to a TV company like they were planning on so both got dropped, and honestly I never watched anything that came out of RT animation like Camp Camp or RWBY or Gen:Lock.

I don't know what it'd take for RT to get an injection of new fans anymore. They're kinda bridging the gap with more specialized podcasts so you still get that "Friends shooting the shit" vibe but now that everyone's in their 30's a lot of the old content feels like coworkers who are just old and tired. I watched one of the new Minecraft LP's and there's a totally different level of energy between Michael in AH content and Michael fucking around with Jordan & Eric. The same with Gavin in AH content versus shooting the shit with Andrew Panton and Geoff

I had this weird dream about the RT Revival where every month they re-produce classic RT and LP content. A Red vs Blue miniseries wrote by Burnie, shot in Halo 1 that's just self-contained bullshit. Getting together Aleks and James from Cow Chop in a house for two weeks and letting them do content one last time instead of the slow, miserable death they had before. Original Achievement City content with their old LP episodes like Cloud Down with a mix of their newer and older talent (And appearances from Ray!), a week of Alternative Lifestyle from Sugar Pine 7, Funhaus with all of the original crew (Minus Adam) culminating in the series finale of Talking Stalkings.

They could stretch it out to a year of content and get some people to return while promoting their new stuff, probably. It'd only take a couple days of shooting from every team, maybe a month for the bigger projects.
 
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If you're talking about cautionary tales about bringing in people you're dating/married to into the company, Geoff's marriage is the biggest example. His ex wife Griffon was in a ton of their early podcasts, wrote their online comic (The prototype to the RTAA), appeared in a bunch of their other shows like Immersion, and they made a show together with the unfortunate premise of interviewing other RT couples called "Relationship Goals" (Ironically enough, a third of the couples on the show have already broken up too)

I think RT is in a sweet spot right now as a podcast company, that's been some of their best content in years in my opinion. I feel like they went a little too far when they were acquired with ambitions of being a large-scale production company with basically independent product values and over-spent on a lot of shows the RT fanbase really just weren't that interested in. Some of it was a hit, others were huge misses, I still loved Haunter and Day5 but they couldn't sell it to a TV company like they were planning on so both got dropped, and honestly I never watched anything that came out of RT animation like Camp Camp or RWBY or Gen:Lock.

I don't know what it'd take for RT to get an injection of new fans anymore. They're kinda bridging the gap with more specialized podcasts so you still get that "Friends shooting the shit" vibe but now that everyone's in their 30's a lot of the old content feels like coworkers who are just old and tired. I watched one of the new Minecraft LP's and there's a totally different level of energy between Michael in AH content and Michael fucking around with Jordan & Eric. The same with Gavin in AH content versus shooting the shit with Andrew Panton and Geoff

I had this weird dream about the RT Revival where every month they re-produce classic RT and LP content. A Red vs Blue miniseries wrote by Burnie, shot in Halo 1 that's just self-contained bullshit. Getting together Aleks and James from Cow Chop in a house for two weeks and letting them do content one last time instead of the slow, miserable death they had before. Original Achievement City content with their old LP episodes like Cloud Down with a mix of their newer and older talent (And appearances from Ray!), a week of Alternative Lifestyle from Sugar Pine 7, Funhaus with all of the original crew (Minus Adam) culminating in the series finale of Talking Stalkings.

They could stretch it out to a year of content and get some people to return while promoting their new stuff, probably. It'd only take a couple days of shooting from every team, maybe a month for the bigger projects.
So their best bet is in podcasts, a market that some might call "oversaturated", their animation department only has one real thing that has to carry the entire company that is rumored to be wound up and bundled into something else by Warner Media every few months, and their video game division hasn't evolved to take on any trending topics or games because they're stuck on games and consoles from the Obama Administration, and when they do, they completely fail to grasp even the basic concepts of how to make the most of it.

I don't really see how things get any better for RT when RWBY isn't on the release schedule.
 
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Outside of Extra Life's charity event they haven't all been in the office together for nearly an entire year but the doom and gloom has been there a lot longer. They can correct course but there's almost nothing they can do to hit their peak again, least they can do is try and bring back lapsed fans.
 
Banking on nostalgia to get fans back isn't going to work. Not only because the personalities they liked cant/wont come back, but also because the new personalities will feel hurt to be excluded and they will cry about it.
 
Just found out about this site and thread today and I'm goddamn loving it! Always great to find another active place where people can be critical about RT, without getting their asses flamed by the rabid horde of fanboys and girls. The only RT and AH content I watch these days is PlayPals though, but I still try to stay up to date about all the bullshit that's been happening to this company lately. And there's been plenty of that for damn sure! :p
 
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