Why ARE coronavirus cases falling in the US with 44% drop in 3 weeks?


Why ARE COVID cases plummeting? New infections have fallen 45% in the US and 30% globally in the past 3 weeks but experts say vaccine is NOT the main driver because only 8% of Americans and 13% people worldwide have received their first dose​

  • Daily cases have dropped 45 percent since the latest peak on January 11, according to data from the COVID-19 Tracking Project . There were 131,341 new cases reported on Wednesday
  • The decline appears to be a global phenomenon, with new infections falling worldwide for the past three weeks in a row, the World Health Organization said Monday
  • Hospitalizations have fallen a whopping 26 percent since they peaked most recently on January 12
  • Currently, 44 states are seeing a decline in cases with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania trending upward, according to Johns Hopkins data
  • California's 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000
  • New York recorded 8,215 new infections on Tuesday, down from the record-high of 19,942 new cases reported on January 15
  • Health experts say it is too soon for vaccines to be playing a major role in the decline with just 8% of the population having received the first shot and fewer than 2% being fully immunized
  • Officials say the drop is likely due to a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest, as many as 90 million people, and fewer people traveling than did over the winter holidays

As the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. came to end, the nation is seeing signs of progress including plummeting rates of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations and accelerating vaccinations rates.
On Wednesday, 110,679 new infections were recorded, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, which is much lower than the 215,805 infections that were recorded just three weeks ago.
What's more, the seven-day rolling average of new cases currently sits at 135,904, a 44 percent decline from the average three weeks weeks earlier, a DailyMail.com analysis shows.
Forty-four states are seeing a decline in cases, Johns Hopkins data reveals, with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania, and the District of Columbia, on the upswing.
In addition, as the country headed into February, COVID-19 hospitalizations fell below 100,000 for the first time in two months.
Currently, 92,880 patients are hospitalized with the virus, the lowest figure seen since November 29 and falling nearly 30 percent from a peak of 132,474 on January 6, according to data from The COVID Tracking Project.
The U.S. death toll has surpassed 446,000 - with an average of about 3,200 deaths per day - but experts say fatalities are a lagging indicator and will likely increase over the next couple of weeks before declining as those severely infected over the winter holidays pass away.
However, most officials say that, with fewer than two percent of the population fully immunized against the virus, it is too soon to say that vaccines are causing the decline.
So the question remains: why are cases falling so fast in the U.S. and can the nation stay ahead of the fast-spreading mutations of the virus?
Public health experts believe that the decline in cases is likely a combination of a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest - meaning as many as 90 million people have antibodies against the virus - and fewer people traveling and holding gatherings than did over the winter holidays.
It's not just the U.S., however. The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday it has also seen declining new infections globally over the past three weeks. Our World in Data graphs show the daily infection rate has fallen by 30 percent in that period.
But Director-General Tedros Adhanom warned against relaxing restrictions to slow the spread of coronavirus on the heels of the good news.
'Over the past year, there have been moments in almost all countries when cases declined, and governments opened up too quickly, and individuals let down their guard, only for the virus to come roaring back,' he said.

Dr Ali Mokdad, a professor of Health Metrics Sciences at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), said there are a number of reasons for the decline in case.
One of the reasons for the sharp drop in cases, even if not the primary driver, are vaccines.
Despite a slow start, the pace of vaccinations has been increasing. More than 52.6 million doses have been distributed and 32.7 million have been administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
That figure is an increase from 16.5 million on January 20, Inauguration Day.
A total of 26.4 million people - about eight percent of the population - have received at least the first injection and six million - 1.8 percent - have been fully inoculated.
The average number of shots going into arms in the two weeks since Biden's inauguration has been around 1.3 million per day on average, more than the president's original goal of one million per day but less than his new goal of 1.5 million per day.
But these numbers are nowhere near the at least 65 percent required for herd immunity.
Experts say the decline in cases is likely due to other reasons instead, such as a higher number of people with natural immunity.
So far, 26.4 million cases - eight percent of the population - have been reported, according to Johns Hopkins.
However, most experts believe this is a severe undercount and only presents a portion of the true number of infections in the country, and Mokdad says likely another reason for the decline in cases.
Recent CDC models estimate that between February and December 2020, there were closer to 83.1 million infections in the U.S. In addition, to the six million cases reported in January, that means an estimated 89.1 million people have contracted the virus since the pandemic began.

The U.S., Europe, and the UK all reached their winter peaks of new daily infections around the same time in mid-January, statistics from Our World in Data show.
Cases in the three hard-hit parts of the world likely drove the global daily case rate to its highest point ever, with the seven-day rolling average of new cases reaching 736,396 on January 11.
By Tuesday, the average number of new daily cases worldwide had declined by 30 percent to 512,732.
Europe's new daily cases have declined from about 250,00 to about 180,000 a day, and the UK - which has been under lockdown since January 6 - is now seeing just 23,355 new cases on an average day, down from its January 9 peak of nearly 60,000.
And India, which is second only to the US for the highest number of COVID-19 cases, is seeing a decline, too.
New infections have fallen 25 percent in the past three weeks, to just 12,537 on an average day. Daily cases have plummeted from the country's September peak of 93,180 cases a day.
Mokdad says a higher percentage of infections in India, as much as 40 percent of the population being previously infected, has led to a decline because the country is heading closer to herd immunity.
But COVID-19 case rates there began to plummet far earlier and for different reasons than apply to wealthier nations like the UK and the US.
'In the wealthy countries...countries that are vaccinating right now, so European countries, and the fact they are in the northern hemisphere, the weather is going to turn out to be much better in the coming months,' Mokdad said.
'So a combination of vaccines, previous infections and the weather are going to lead to a decline.'
But if the northern hemisphere is going to see a decline in cases as we head into May, June and July, the southern hemisphere will likely see a rise as counties like Argentina, Australia and South Africa head into fall and winter.
'The seasonality will basically help some countries and is going to bea gainst certain countries,' he added.

In California, one of the nation's hotspots since the early days of the crisis, the rates of new infections and hospitalizations continue to fall.
The 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000.
Additionally, the state said the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 15,000, which is a drop of more than 25 percent in two weeks.
The state said that the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 14,850 - a drop of more than 25% in two weeks.
Deaths remain staggeringly high, however, with more than 3,800 in the last week.
It took six months for California to record its first 10,000 deaths, then four months to double to 20,000. In just five more weeks the state reached 30,000.
It then took only 20 days to get to 40,000. On Sunday deaths rose to 40,697, while total cases topped 3.2 million.

Meanwhile, in New York - the nation's first epicenter - cases have fallen nearly 10 percent over the last week, an analysis of state and federal data reveals.
On Tuesday, the state reported 8,215 new infections with a 5.47 percent test positivity rate. This is down from the record-high 19,942 new cases and 6.14 percent positivity rate reported on January 15.
'In the here and now, all the news is good. You look at all the trend lines, it's good,' Governor Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Sunday.
The state had about 8,067 hospitalizations on Tuesday, which a decrease from the more than 9,000 that were reported in mid-January.
However, Cuomo warned New Yorkers that the new COVID-19 variants were still a threat and that people still had to follow mitigation measures like mask-wearing and social distancing.
'For me, I have been through this a number of times, and I anticipate the probability of the future to be ready for it,' he said.

More states are reporting similar downward trends.
In Florida, which was was reporting as many as 16,000 new cases a day early in January, just 10,533 cases were recorded on Tuesday.
Additionally, fewer than 7,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, in the state, down from almost 8,000 earlier in January, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
The statewide positivity rate decreased to 10.77 percent.
And Illinois, health officials reported 2,304 new confirmed and probable cases of COVID-19,a steep drop from the record-high of more than 15,000 reported in November.
The seven-day rolling average test positivity rate, which sits at 3.9 percent, is the lowest figure seen sicne early October and has been cut by more than half from a month ago.
What's more, with just about 2,500 hospitalized patients, it represents an 59 percent drop from the peak of 6,175 in mid-November
 
I wonder what changed couple weeks ago?
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Interesting this came out January 20th :thinking:
This is why. The rtPCR detects nucleic acid fragments, not exclusively active infection. There were reports that cycle thresholds were being amped past 42-45, which is trash. They were detecting any tiny bit of sequence and that could be a sloughed off but dead lung cell - literally a single cell adhering to the lung lining could give a positive if hacked up onto a swab under that kind of cycling. The PCR should never have been used like this.
Such a scam.
 
This is why. The rtPCR detects nucleic acid fragments, not exclusively active infection. There were reports that cycle thresholds were being amped past 42-45, which is trash. They were detecting any tiny bit of sequence and that could be a sloughed off but dead lung cell - literally a single cell adhering to the lung lining could give a positive if hacked up onto a swab under that kind of cycling. The PCR should never have been used like this.
Such a scam.
Trust the science bigot.
 
This is why. The rtPCR detects nucleic acid fragments, not exclusively active infection. There were reports that cycle thresholds were being amped past 42-45, which is trash. They were detecting any tiny bit of sequence and that could be a sloughed off but dead lung cell - literally a single cell adhering to the lung lining could give a positive if hacked up onto a swab under that kind of cycling. The PCR should never have been used like this.
Such a scam.
I don't like using my brain.

Can you dumb it down for me?
 
I don't like using my brain.

Can you dumb it down for me?
Sure! RtPCR means ‘reverse transcription PCR.’ What’s reverse transcription? It’s a process where you change RNA, which is the genetic material of this virus, into DNA. Once you have DNA, you can amplify it.
The amplification is the PCR. Under ideal conditions, each ‘cycle’ unzips the dna and copies it, so each cycle doubles the amount there. You tag the dna strands with something that glows and as you do more and more cycles eventually you can see the glow. When you see the glow, it’s positive. If you can see the glow at 10 cycles, you’ve got a strong positive becasue there was more to start with. If it takes 30 cycles, there probably wasn’t much to start with. Past a certain point, the stuff you use to make the new dna strands can assemble itself and glow, and your results are junk.
Anything that needs 40 cycles to give you a positive is dodgy. RtPCR is an amazing technique, you can take single cells and amplify their genetic material, that’s how sensitive it is. But it’s crap for this. When you have a virus infecting your lungs, a lot of dead lung cells get coughed up. Ever had a bad virus and been coughing up the gunk weeks after you feel better? Each of those cells will have broken down bits of virus in, and that’s what’s getting picked up.
 
You retards still believe this? lol oh wow
Honestly? I have no idea what is and isn't true about any of this. I'm not an epidemiologist or a doctor, so I have to trust in authorities to explain these things to me. And over and over again, 2020 reinforced that I couldn't actually trust those authorities to be telling the truth.

The politicians and journalists made it very clear they were happy to use it for political purposes. The WHO was obviously following what the CCP was telling them, which made their information impossible to trust. Even many of the health authorities who were meant to be our reassuring scientific sources of information threw away all their credibility in declaring the BLM riots as safe because 'racism is more of a threat than the pandemic'. Even Dr. Fauci admitted to lying to the public in November, while there's now a troon in the upper echelons of government who we're supposed to trust with scientific information when he can't even accept that he is a man.

So, no, I don't think it's ludicrous to think the drop in numbers could be because they're no longer overreporting numbers for political reasons - I saw the vast differences in how numbers were reported in New York, California and Florida entirely due to politics. Do I believe it? Honestly, I don't know. I hope it's not true, but I certainly don't have faith that the authorities would tell us the truth, or wouldn't mess with the numbers.

If you have convincing, trustworthy evidence against it, I'd love to know. Because they are very hard to find right now.
 
Not if they're staying home. If you're staying home, it'd already have spread throughout the house hold. It's like a quarantine only voluntary because no one wants to go out when it's super cold
The larger states where the spread was said to be most rampant are fairly warm, though. It’s 65 degrees Fahrenheit in parts of north Texas. It’s about the same in both Miami and LA.
 
HollyWood Hitler's evidence is

"ORANGE MAN BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" and nothing else.
No, I just have seen you retards repeat that claim over and over again and it's simply not true. You guys even said to check the CDC's website, well, give me a link then because it's a big website
 
Honestly? I have no idea what is and isn't true about any of this. I'm not an epidemiologist or a doctor, so I have to trust in authorities to explain these things to me. And over and over again, 2020 reinforced that I couldn't actually trust those authorities to be telling the truth.

The politicians and journalists made it very clear they were happy to use it for political purposes. The WHO was obviously following what the CCP was telling them, which made their information impossible to trust. Even many of the health authorities who were meant to be our reassuring scientific sources of information threw away all their credibility in declaring the BLM riots as safe because 'racism is more of a threat than the pandemic'. Even Dr. Fauci admitted to lying to the public in November, while there's now a troon in the upper echelons of government who we're supposed to trust with scientific information when he can't even accept that he is a man.

So, no, I don't think it's ludicrous to think the drop in numbers could be because they're no longer overreporting numbers for political reasons - I saw the vast differences in how numbers were reported in New York, California and Florida entirely due to politics. Do I believe it? Honestly, I don't know. I hope it's not true, but I certainly don't have faith that the authorities would tell us the truth, or wouldn't mess with the numbers.

If you have convincing, trustworthy evidence against it, I'd love to know. Because they are very hard to find right now.

Or, more simply. Politicians lie about and use whatever they have at hand. This is not a debatable statement. Why is it suddenly debatable for COVID?

It's like the "women never lie about rape" thing. People lie about everything, women are people, everything includes rape. People will do something so horrible as to commit rape, but the idea that people don't ever lie about it is credible?
 
Trust the science bigot.
You know, this last year has been a total mind fuck for me. This whole medical research/molecular genetics thing is my wheelhouse, so to speak. And I know you’re joking but I have actually been told to shut up and trust the science, by people whose expertise is nil. Or my opinion is bigoted/nazi/etc becasue I’ve asked questions like ‘42 cycles for an RtPCR we are basing national house arrest on? Are you sure about that?’ When something of global importance happens, and you can understand all the primary sci/med data on it, and you see it being abused, twisted, and ignored to cause horrific damage to people on a global scale, it’s actually quite upsetting. Imagine you’ve spent your life questing for a cure for rabies and suddenly the government mandates everyone own five rabid dogs and a bat colony they have to sleep naked in. That kind of thing.
I’ve given up. The people in charge use science as a religion, not a tool.science is a tool not a dogma or a set belief.
They’re being advised by SAGE, who seem to be at least 10% foreign backed agitators (naming no names but rhymes with schmurgusen) people completely unsuited to give advice on pandemics, and almost ALL of the fuckers have financial interests in vaccines, PPE, or other firms that benefit from a lockdown. I believe bojo is well meaning but he’s got zero scientific knowledge amd is being advised by some really unsuitable people. And he clearly nearly croaked this year amd has taken a long time to bounce back, and is being led around by the balls but that’s a whole other thread...
It has genuinely been one of the most distressing, depressing episodes of my life. I now understand Gell-Man amnesia on a profound level. Clown world.
If this site ever gets nuked, save this thread, because it’s been the single most informative and balanced reportage on this whole sorry episode that I’ve seen.
 
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