Why ARE coronavirus cases falling in the US with 44% drop in 3 weeks?


Why ARE COVID cases plummeting? New infections have fallen 45% in the US and 30% globally in the past 3 weeks but experts say vaccine is NOT the main driver because only 8% of Americans and 13% people worldwide have received their first dose​

  • Daily cases have dropped 45 percent since the latest peak on January 11, according to data from the COVID-19 Tracking Project . There were 131,341 new cases reported on Wednesday
  • The decline appears to be a global phenomenon, with new infections falling worldwide for the past three weeks in a row, the World Health Organization said Monday
  • Hospitalizations have fallen a whopping 26 percent since they peaked most recently on January 12
  • Currently, 44 states are seeing a decline in cases with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania trending upward, according to Johns Hopkins data
  • California's 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000
  • New York recorded 8,215 new infections on Tuesday, down from the record-high of 19,942 new cases reported on January 15
  • Health experts say it is too soon for vaccines to be playing a major role in the decline with just 8% of the population having received the first shot and fewer than 2% being fully immunized
  • Officials say the drop is likely due to a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest, as many as 90 million people, and fewer people traveling than did over the winter holidays

As the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. came to end, the nation is seeing signs of progress including plummeting rates of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations and accelerating vaccinations rates.
On Wednesday, 110,679 new infections were recorded, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, which is much lower than the 215,805 infections that were recorded just three weeks ago.
What's more, the seven-day rolling average of new cases currently sits at 135,904, a 44 percent decline from the average three weeks weeks earlier, a DailyMail.com analysis shows.
Forty-four states are seeing a decline in cases, Johns Hopkins data reveals, with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania, and the District of Columbia, on the upswing.
In addition, as the country headed into February, COVID-19 hospitalizations fell below 100,000 for the first time in two months.
Currently, 92,880 patients are hospitalized with the virus, the lowest figure seen since November 29 and falling nearly 30 percent from a peak of 132,474 on January 6, according to data from The COVID Tracking Project.
The U.S. death toll has surpassed 446,000 - with an average of about 3,200 deaths per day - but experts say fatalities are a lagging indicator and will likely increase over the next couple of weeks before declining as those severely infected over the winter holidays pass away.
However, most officials say that, with fewer than two percent of the population fully immunized against the virus, it is too soon to say that vaccines are causing the decline.
So the question remains: why are cases falling so fast in the U.S. and can the nation stay ahead of the fast-spreading mutations of the virus?
Public health experts believe that the decline in cases is likely a combination of a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest - meaning as many as 90 million people have antibodies against the virus - and fewer people traveling and holding gatherings than did over the winter holidays.
It's not just the U.S., however. The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday it has also seen declining new infections globally over the past three weeks. Our World in Data graphs show the daily infection rate has fallen by 30 percent in that period.
But Director-General Tedros Adhanom warned against relaxing restrictions to slow the spread of coronavirus on the heels of the good news.
'Over the past year, there have been moments in almost all countries when cases declined, and governments opened up too quickly, and individuals let down their guard, only for the virus to come roaring back,' he said.

Dr Ali Mokdad, a professor of Health Metrics Sciences at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), said there are a number of reasons for the decline in case.
One of the reasons for the sharp drop in cases, even if not the primary driver, are vaccines.
Despite a slow start, the pace of vaccinations has been increasing. More than 52.6 million doses have been distributed and 32.7 million have been administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
That figure is an increase from 16.5 million on January 20, Inauguration Day.
A total of 26.4 million people - about eight percent of the population - have received at least the first injection and six million - 1.8 percent - have been fully inoculated.
The average number of shots going into arms in the two weeks since Biden's inauguration has been around 1.3 million per day on average, more than the president's original goal of one million per day but less than his new goal of 1.5 million per day.
But these numbers are nowhere near the at least 65 percent required for herd immunity.
Experts say the decline in cases is likely due to other reasons instead, such as a higher number of people with natural immunity.
So far, 26.4 million cases - eight percent of the population - have been reported, according to Johns Hopkins.
However, most experts believe this is a severe undercount and only presents a portion of the true number of infections in the country, and Mokdad says likely another reason for the decline in cases.
Recent CDC models estimate that between February and December 2020, there were closer to 83.1 million infections in the U.S. In addition, to the six million cases reported in January, that means an estimated 89.1 million people have contracted the virus since the pandemic began.

The U.S., Europe, and the UK all reached their winter peaks of new daily infections around the same time in mid-January, statistics from Our World in Data show.
Cases in the three hard-hit parts of the world likely drove the global daily case rate to its highest point ever, with the seven-day rolling average of new cases reaching 736,396 on January 11.
By Tuesday, the average number of new daily cases worldwide had declined by 30 percent to 512,732.
Europe's new daily cases have declined from about 250,00 to about 180,000 a day, and the UK - which has been under lockdown since January 6 - is now seeing just 23,355 new cases on an average day, down from its January 9 peak of nearly 60,000.
And India, which is second only to the US for the highest number of COVID-19 cases, is seeing a decline, too.
New infections have fallen 25 percent in the past three weeks, to just 12,537 on an average day. Daily cases have plummeted from the country's September peak of 93,180 cases a day.
Mokdad says a higher percentage of infections in India, as much as 40 percent of the population being previously infected, has led to a decline because the country is heading closer to herd immunity.
But COVID-19 case rates there began to plummet far earlier and for different reasons than apply to wealthier nations like the UK and the US.
'In the wealthy countries...countries that are vaccinating right now, so European countries, and the fact they are in the northern hemisphere, the weather is going to turn out to be much better in the coming months,' Mokdad said.
'So a combination of vaccines, previous infections and the weather are going to lead to a decline.'
But if the northern hemisphere is going to see a decline in cases as we head into May, June and July, the southern hemisphere will likely see a rise as counties like Argentina, Australia and South Africa head into fall and winter.
'The seasonality will basically help some countries and is going to bea gainst certain countries,' he added.

In California, one of the nation's hotspots since the early days of the crisis, the rates of new infections and hospitalizations continue to fall.
The 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000.
Additionally, the state said the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 15,000, which is a drop of more than 25 percent in two weeks.
The state said that the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 14,850 - a drop of more than 25% in two weeks.
Deaths remain staggeringly high, however, with more than 3,800 in the last week.
It took six months for California to record its first 10,000 deaths, then four months to double to 20,000. In just five more weeks the state reached 30,000.
It then took only 20 days to get to 40,000. On Sunday deaths rose to 40,697, while total cases topped 3.2 million.

Meanwhile, in New York - the nation's first epicenter - cases have fallen nearly 10 percent over the last week, an analysis of state and federal data reveals.
On Tuesday, the state reported 8,215 new infections with a 5.47 percent test positivity rate. This is down from the record-high 19,942 new cases and 6.14 percent positivity rate reported on January 15.
'In the here and now, all the news is good. You look at all the trend lines, it's good,' Governor Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Sunday.
The state had about 8,067 hospitalizations on Tuesday, which a decrease from the more than 9,000 that were reported in mid-January.
However, Cuomo warned New Yorkers that the new COVID-19 variants were still a threat and that people still had to follow mitigation measures like mask-wearing and social distancing.
'For me, I have been through this a number of times, and I anticipate the probability of the future to be ready for it,' he said.

More states are reporting similar downward trends.
In Florida, which was was reporting as many as 16,000 new cases a day early in January, just 10,533 cases were recorded on Tuesday.
Additionally, fewer than 7,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, in the state, down from almost 8,000 earlier in January, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
The statewide positivity rate decreased to 10.77 percent.
And Illinois, health officials reported 2,304 new confirmed and probable cases of COVID-19,a steep drop from the record-high of more than 15,000 reported in November.
The seven-day rolling average test positivity rate, which sits at 3.9 percent, is the lowest figure seen sicne early October and has been cut by more than half from a month ago.
What's more, with just about 2,500 hospitalized patients, it represents an 59 percent drop from the peak of 6,175 in mid-November
 
So who is? I asked for recommendations, and currently you seem to want us to trust you, some guy trolling on the Farms, over anything else.

What supports your position? Because currently you're denying and insulting without anything to back it up. Which, fine if you're just shitposting, you're shitposting. But then you can't pretend you have a greater political point or have any reason for anyone to give a shit about what you say ever.
He works in the medical industry and he quotes random sports doctors on Facebook, he's a super expert.
 
Is the pack insert thing public? If not and ONLY if you’re not going to get caught doing it I’d love to see that insert/instructions that say ct40 becasue everyone I’ve tried to tell that tells me I’m talking shit, it can’t possibly be that high, etc.
Not sure if it's public but there's definitely no identifying information on it. I'll see if I can get some info for you after my shift tonight
 
You know, this last year has been a total mind fuck for me. This whole medical research/molecular genetics thing is my wheelhouse, so to speak. And I know you’re joking but I have actually been told to shut up and trust the science, by people whose expertise is nil. Or my opinion is bigoted/nazi/etc becasue I’ve asked questions like ‘42 cycles for an RtPCR we are basing national house arrest on? Are you sure about that?’ When something of global importance happens, and you can understand all the primary sci/med data on it, and you see it being abused, twisted, and ignored to cause horrific damage to people on a global scale, it’s actually quite upsetting. Imagine you’ve spent your life questing for a cure for rabies and suddenly the government mandates everyone own five rabid dogs and a bat colony they have to sleep naked in. That kind of thing.
I’ve given up. The people in charge use science as a religion, not a tool.science is a tool not a dogma or a set belief.
They’re being advised by SAGE, who seem to be at least 10% foreign backed agitators (naming no names but rhymes with schmurgusen) people completely unsuited to give advice on pandemics, and almost ALL of the fuckers have financial interests in vaccines, PPE, or other firms that benefit from a lockdown. I believe bojo is well meaning but he’s got zero scientific knowledge amd is being advised by some really unsuitable people. And he clearly nearly croaked this year amd has taken a long time to bounce back, and is being led around by the balls but that’s a whole other thread...
It has genuinely been one of the most distressing, depressing episodes of my life. I now understand Gell-Man amnesia on a profound level. Clown world.
If this site ever gets nuked, save this thread, because it’s been the single most informative and balanced reportage on this whole sorry episode that I’ve seen.
Hey, please never stop posting. It's really valuable to get takes from someone who actually knows what they're talking about on this stuff. And it's pretty obvious this is in your wheelhouse.

I always say: all it takes to shake your faith in the news media is to hear a story reported on an issue where you're actually an expert (for me it was intellectual property). Once that happens, you realise the news isn't just clueless about that topic, but every topic. And you've been sat there treating this as gospel, repeating the talking points to your friends and work colleagues.

It's a sickening moment, because it doesn't necessarily mean that everything you've been told is wrong. But you know a lot of it, maybe a majority of it, was just utter horseshit.
 
I’ve given up. The people in charge use science as a religion, not a tool.science is a tool not a dogma or a set belief.
They’re being advised by SAGE, who seem to be at least 10% foreign backed agitators (naming no names but rhymes with schmurgusen) people completely unsuited to give advice on pandemics, and almost ALL of the fuckers have financial interests in vaccines, PPE, or other firms that benefit from a lockdown. I believe bojo is well meaning but he’s got zero scientific knowledge amd is being advised by some really unsuitable people. And he clearly nearly croaked this year amd has taken a long time to bounce back, and is being led around by the balls but that’s a whole other thread...
It has genuinely been one of the most distressing, depressing episodes of my life. I now understand Gell-Man amnesia on a profound level. Clown world.

Now imagine this, but in every field you hear news about, that you don't have qualifications for.
 
Hey, please never stop posting. It's really valuable to get takes from someone who actually knows what they're talking about on this stuff. And it's pretty obvious this is in your wheelhouse.

I always say: all it takes to shake your faith in the news media is to hear a story reported on an issue where you're actually an expert (for me it was intellectual property). Once that happens, you realise the news isn't just clueless about that topic, but every topic. And you've been sat there treating this as gospel, repeating the talking points to your friends and work colleagues.

It's a sickening moment, because it doesn't necessarily mean that everything you've been told is wrong. But you know a lot of it, maybe a majority of it, was just utter horseshit.
For me this was the Spanish-American War and the USS Maine. When you realize that shitty journalism pulled the US into a war with a European nation for literally no fucking reason and that Journalism only gets worse, you realize they're all crap. Never mind Duranty. And then you watch people around you just drinking it all up and it's maddening.
 
That's just dumb reasoning. Covid infections were at it's lowest in Summer when people go out of their homes. Ever heard of flu season that happens every winter when it's "Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything".

Did you people know that UKs flu cases are down 95%? It's totally not that flu is being misdiagnosed as Covid by these PCR tests.
Not gonna lie, I highly doubt an influenza virus (Orthomyxoviridae) would get misdiagnosed as COVID (Coronaviridae). The two are only distantly related at the phylum level IIRC.

Unless someone else knows more about those specific PCR cycles, I think its more a case of people with smaller viral loads (i.e. completely asymptomatic or recently recovered) not getting added to the case load rather than distantly related viral DNA getting counted as COVID.
Occam's razor would suggest that the holiday season is over and people have less reasons to gather, either for family reasons or commercial reasons. People generally hole up a little after Christmas anyway because of the desire to make up for some of the budget-stretching that happens in December. That means there's been plenty of time for the elevated cases from the Christmas season to reach their respective conclusions without enough social temptation to keep the numbers consistent.
You clearly haven't been down to Jacksonville or Savannah as of late.
The doctors can usually tell what the person died of and CMS checks the rest of the medical chart, too. They don't just take the word of it. How do you think medicare fraud is discovered?
Those Facebook doctors, right?
 
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You didn't even read my post again. Jesus christ, dude. Let me dumb it down even more. Those people had the amputated limb or car crash earlier. They recovered. It was still on their charts, though, because that kind of shit happens. Then, they contracted covid and died but it was still on their charts.
lol I literally said the same thing. Do you have any proof for that? does this work the other way around? people who had covid, recovered, then died in a car crash still have covid on their charts?
Again, you really think if there was this vast conspiracy that they'd be 1. Stupid enough to put that on their charts. 2. Dumb enough to put it on the CDC website?

CDC reports what hospitals report, no? or do they verify each death themselves?

Yes? Medical examiners sometimes put every diagnosis on the patient's record on there. You're so close to getting this
so by your own logic they also put covid for people who had recovered from it


And it got corrected. You really think the CDC would be endorsing medicare fraud?
so the proof that it happens is actually proof that it doesn't happen, because it got corrected after being shown that it does happen? that is some implressive mental gymnastics
 
lol I literally said the same thing. Do you have any proof for that? does this work the other way around? people who had covid, recovered, then died in a car crash still have covid on their charts?\
Sometimes. Doctors often forget to remove stuff from charts.
CDC reports what hospitals report, no? or do they verify each death themselves?
Right, but if it was this vast conspiracy of overinflating covid deaths, why wouldn't they just remove the non-covid stuff? You really think hospitals are able to do this huge medicare fraud scheme that CMS and CDC can't uncover, despite the evidence being on their own website, but you covid-deniers can? Come on now, you can't be this retarded.
so the proof that it happens is actually proof that it doesn't happen, because it got corrected after being shown that it does happen? that is some implressive mental gymnastics
No one is saying medicare fraud never happens, but it gets uncovered quickly more often than not. It doesn't always get uncovered right away, but when CMS does their auditing they usually catch shit.

Like I said, I am wasting my time because you have your head in the sand that there's this vast conspiracy to inflate covid deaths that somehow CMS and CDC can't uncover (despite the evidence being on their own websites), but you retards who deny covid and have zero education in medicine can? Yeah, seems legit.

Do you think that hospitals are lying about being at or over capacity and their ICUs aren't/weren't really overflowing?
 
Do you think overflooded hospitals have time to make choreographed tiktok videos with the entire staff participating?
This might shock you but even healthcare workers take breaks. I'd ask if you ever take breaks at work, but since you're unable to differentiate this I will now assume you are a spas on a tugboat.

The tiktok video was cringey and stupid but it was done on a break. I don't see why you retards keep bringing it up as evidence of a vast covid conspiracy.
 
By @Otterly's request and in case anybody is curious about nerd shit here are the instructions for Thermo-Fisher's RT-PCR COVID-19 kit. This is public information and the FBI won't break down your door for having this PDF, but Dr. Fauci might shake his head and tell you to trust science instead of doing your own research

This kit is the only one I have experience with for Covid testing so others might be better or worse, I'm not sure how this one compares. All I can say is the false positive rate seems to be about 1% of the total positive results we see. It's not a perfect system of course, having a perfect score with a diagnostic system is probably impossible, but it really shows how little policy makers care about actual science when they treat RT-PCR as the infallible word of God

Ct cutoffs are on page 121. I mentioned before they use a Ct of 40. I misspoke, I meant to say they use 40 cycles in their protocol and their Ct cutoffs for Covid genes are ≤37. Many people think the cutoff should be 35 or lower and I agree. The runs that have failed due to false positives on QCs would have passed if the Ct was lowered to 35 or even 33/32. Would have saved me and my lab a lot of headache

 

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You really think hospitals are able to do this huge medicare fraud scheme that CMS and CDC can't uncover, despite the evidence being on their own website.
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No one is saying medicare fraud never happens, but it gets uncovered quickly more often than not. It doesn't always get uncovered right away, but when CMS does their auditing they usually catch shit.
You've never worked in a hospital before; and mowing their lawns for community service hours doesn't count.

Do you think that hospitals are lying about being at or over capacity and their ICUs aren't/weren't really overflowing?
No way are they lying; as seen on TV!
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Hospitals are rackets; the ones that don't bitch constantly about needing more bed-space & try to grift the public for more, suck at it. Hunting for public & private grant money is a huge part of how hospitals make money, and corona gave them a convenient & plausible angle.
 
This might shock you but even healthcare workers take breaks. I'd ask if you ever take breaks at work, but since you're unable to differentiate this I will now assume you are a spas on a tugboat.

The tiktok video was cringey and stupid but it was done on a break. I don't see why you retards keep bringing it up as evidence of a vast covid conspiracy.
Yeah, I remember the FBI doing choreographed dances during the Waco siege during their breaks, too.
 
Yeah, I remember the FBI doing choreographed dances during the Waco siege during their breaks, too.
I am sure even the FBI took some breaks during Waco. There's a huge difference between a fucking FBI siege and a hospital floor. Do you never take breaks during work?

Also, the whole tik tok dance was done at the very early stages of the pandemic, before hospitals became overrun. I really don't see why you retards keep bringing this up as proof of some huge covid conspiracy.
 
This might shock you but even healthcare workers take breaks. I'd ask if you ever take breaks at work, but since you're unable to differentiate this I will now assume you are a spas on a tugboat.

The tiktok video was cringey and stupid but it was done on a break. I don't see why you retards keep bringing it up as evidence of a vast covid conspiracy.

I know people in the ER, and they often only get breaks when they literally pass out, during rushes. My anecdote is at least as trustworthy as any of what you've said. Checkmate, I guess.
 
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