Why ARE coronavirus cases falling in the US with 44% drop in 3 weeks?


Why ARE COVID cases plummeting? New infections have fallen 45% in the US and 30% globally in the past 3 weeks but experts say vaccine is NOT the main driver because only 8% of Americans and 13% people worldwide have received their first dose​

  • Daily cases have dropped 45 percent since the latest peak on January 11, according to data from the COVID-19 Tracking Project . There were 131,341 new cases reported on Wednesday
  • The decline appears to be a global phenomenon, with new infections falling worldwide for the past three weeks in a row, the World Health Organization said Monday
  • Hospitalizations have fallen a whopping 26 percent since they peaked most recently on January 12
  • Currently, 44 states are seeing a decline in cases with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania trending upward, according to Johns Hopkins data
  • California's 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000
  • New York recorded 8,215 new infections on Tuesday, down from the record-high of 19,942 new cases reported on January 15
  • Health experts say it is too soon for vaccines to be playing a major role in the decline with just 8% of the population having received the first shot and fewer than 2% being fully immunized
  • Officials say the drop is likely due to a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest, as many as 90 million people, and fewer people traveling than did over the winter holidays

As the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. came to end, the nation is seeing signs of progress including plummeting rates of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations and accelerating vaccinations rates.
On Wednesday, 110,679 new infections were recorded, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, which is much lower than the 215,805 infections that were recorded just three weeks ago.
What's more, the seven-day rolling average of new cases currently sits at 135,904, a 44 percent decline from the average three weeks weeks earlier, a DailyMail.com analysis shows.
Forty-four states are seeing a decline in cases, Johns Hopkins data reveals, with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania, and the District of Columbia, on the upswing.
In addition, as the country headed into February, COVID-19 hospitalizations fell below 100,000 for the first time in two months.
Currently, 92,880 patients are hospitalized with the virus, the lowest figure seen since November 29 and falling nearly 30 percent from a peak of 132,474 on January 6, according to data from The COVID Tracking Project.
The U.S. death toll has surpassed 446,000 - with an average of about 3,200 deaths per day - but experts say fatalities are a lagging indicator and will likely increase over the next couple of weeks before declining as those severely infected over the winter holidays pass away.
However, most officials say that, with fewer than two percent of the population fully immunized against the virus, it is too soon to say that vaccines are causing the decline.
So the question remains: why are cases falling so fast in the U.S. and can the nation stay ahead of the fast-spreading mutations of the virus?
Public health experts believe that the decline in cases is likely a combination of a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest - meaning as many as 90 million people have antibodies against the virus - and fewer people traveling and holding gatherings than did over the winter holidays.
It's not just the U.S., however. The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday it has also seen declining new infections globally over the past three weeks. Our World in Data graphs show the daily infection rate has fallen by 30 percent in that period.
But Director-General Tedros Adhanom warned against relaxing restrictions to slow the spread of coronavirus on the heels of the good news.
'Over the past year, there have been moments in almost all countries when cases declined, and governments opened up too quickly, and individuals let down their guard, only for the virus to come roaring back,' he said.

Dr Ali Mokdad, a professor of Health Metrics Sciences at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), said there are a number of reasons for the decline in case.
One of the reasons for the sharp drop in cases, even if not the primary driver, are vaccines.
Despite a slow start, the pace of vaccinations has been increasing. More than 52.6 million doses have been distributed and 32.7 million have been administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
That figure is an increase from 16.5 million on January 20, Inauguration Day.
A total of 26.4 million people - about eight percent of the population - have received at least the first injection and six million - 1.8 percent - have been fully inoculated.
The average number of shots going into arms in the two weeks since Biden's inauguration has been around 1.3 million per day on average, more than the president's original goal of one million per day but less than his new goal of 1.5 million per day.
But these numbers are nowhere near the at least 65 percent required for herd immunity.
Experts say the decline in cases is likely due to other reasons instead, such as a higher number of people with natural immunity.
So far, 26.4 million cases - eight percent of the population - have been reported, according to Johns Hopkins.
However, most experts believe this is a severe undercount and only presents a portion of the true number of infections in the country, and Mokdad says likely another reason for the decline in cases.
Recent CDC models estimate that between February and December 2020, there were closer to 83.1 million infections in the U.S. In addition, to the six million cases reported in January, that means an estimated 89.1 million people have contracted the virus since the pandemic began.

The U.S., Europe, and the UK all reached their winter peaks of new daily infections around the same time in mid-January, statistics from Our World in Data show.
Cases in the three hard-hit parts of the world likely drove the global daily case rate to its highest point ever, with the seven-day rolling average of new cases reaching 736,396 on January 11.
By Tuesday, the average number of new daily cases worldwide had declined by 30 percent to 512,732.
Europe's new daily cases have declined from about 250,00 to about 180,000 a day, and the UK - which has been under lockdown since January 6 - is now seeing just 23,355 new cases on an average day, down from its January 9 peak of nearly 60,000.
And India, which is second only to the US for the highest number of COVID-19 cases, is seeing a decline, too.
New infections have fallen 25 percent in the past three weeks, to just 12,537 on an average day. Daily cases have plummeted from the country's September peak of 93,180 cases a day.
Mokdad says a higher percentage of infections in India, as much as 40 percent of the population being previously infected, has led to a decline because the country is heading closer to herd immunity.
But COVID-19 case rates there began to plummet far earlier and for different reasons than apply to wealthier nations like the UK and the US.
'In the wealthy countries...countries that are vaccinating right now, so European countries, and the fact they are in the northern hemisphere, the weather is going to turn out to be much better in the coming months,' Mokdad said.
'So a combination of vaccines, previous infections and the weather are going to lead to a decline.'
But if the northern hemisphere is going to see a decline in cases as we head into May, June and July, the southern hemisphere will likely see a rise as counties like Argentina, Australia and South Africa head into fall and winter.
'The seasonality will basically help some countries and is going to bea gainst certain countries,' he added.

In California, one of the nation's hotspots since the early days of the crisis, the rates of new infections and hospitalizations continue to fall.
The 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000.
Additionally, the state said the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 15,000, which is a drop of more than 25 percent in two weeks.
The state said that the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 14,850 - a drop of more than 25% in two weeks.
Deaths remain staggeringly high, however, with more than 3,800 in the last week.
It took six months for California to record its first 10,000 deaths, then four months to double to 20,000. In just five more weeks the state reached 30,000.
It then took only 20 days to get to 40,000. On Sunday deaths rose to 40,697, while total cases topped 3.2 million.

Meanwhile, in New York - the nation's first epicenter - cases have fallen nearly 10 percent over the last week, an analysis of state and federal data reveals.
On Tuesday, the state reported 8,215 new infections with a 5.47 percent test positivity rate. This is down from the record-high 19,942 new cases and 6.14 percent positivity rate reported on January 15.
'In the here and now, all the news is good. You look at all the trend lines, it's good,' Governor Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Sunday.
The state had about 8,067 hospitalizations on Tuesday, which a decrease from the more than 9,000 that were reported in mid-January.
However, Cuomo warned New Yorkers that the new COVID-19 variants were still a threat and that people still had to follow mitigation measures like mask-wearing and social distancing.
'For me, I have been through this a number of times, and I anticipate the probability of the future to be ready for it,' he said.

More states are reporting similar downward trends.
In Florida, which was was reporting as many as 16,000 new cases a day early in January, just 10,533 cases were recorded on Tuesday.
Additionally, fewer than 7,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, in the state, down from almost 8,000 earlier in January, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
The statewide positivity rate decreased to 10.77 percent.
And Illinois, health officials reported 2,304 new confirmed and probable cases of COVID-19,a steep drop from the record-high of more than 15,000 reported in November.
The seven-day rolling average test positivity rate, which sits at 3.9 percent, is the lowest figure seen sicne early October and has been cut by more than half from a month ago.
What's more, with just about 2,500 hospitalized patients, it represents an 59 percent drop from the peak of 6,175 in mid-November
 
I know people in the ER, and they often only get breaks when they literally pass out, during rushes. My anecdote is at least as trustworthy as any of what you've said. Checkmate, I guess.
That's legitimately illegal and goes against labor laws. They should report it to their state's labor board
 
That's legitimately illegal and goes against labor laws. They should report it to their state's labor board
Yes, because they can totally just walk away when people come into the ER with grave injuries, because "I'm on a break." Thank you for establishing you don't know the type of people that work in ER's, because if you did, you'd know they don't think like the average union roadcrew asshole, taking their breaks because it's "that time", even though there's work to be done.
 
Yes, because they can totally just walk away when people come into the ER with grave injuries, because "I'm on a break." Thank you for establishing you don't know the type of people that work in ER's, because if you did, you'd know they don't think like the average union roadcrew asshole, taking their breaks because it's "that time", even though there's work to be done.
Then the ER needs to hire more. I know lots of ER doctors and they do take breaks. Not scheduled breaks, but they do take them when they can.

Just because some nurses did a cringey dance video in the very early stages of the pandemic doesn't make covid a hoax.
 
I am sure even the FBI took some breaks during Waco. There's a huge difference between a fucking FBI siege and a hospital floor. Do you never take breaks during work?

Also, the whole tik tok dance was done at the very early stages of the pandemic, before hospitals became overrun. I really don't see why you retards keep bringing this up as proof of some huge covid conspiracy.
Yeah, i take a break for lunch, and I have a couple cigarette breaks. Nobody has long enough breaks to get a bunch of their co-workers together to practice dance routines during the "worst pandemic ever" where bodies are literally overflowing in the streets.
 
Yeah, i take a break for lunch, and I have a couple cigarette breaks. Nobody has long enough breaks to get a bunch of their co-workers together to practice dance routines during the "worst pandemic ever" where bodies are literally overflowing in the streets.
This was in the early stages of the video and again, hospitals weren't overflowing then.

You're allowed to take work breaks but nurses aren't? Seems hypocritical to me.

You really think there's this vast conspiracy of hospitals to lie about covid and no one has come forward about it, and the only evidence is a tik tok video? I know you're a conspiracy believing retard but this is even low for you
 
This was in the early stages of the video and again, hospitals weren't overflowing then.

You're allowed to take work breaks but nurses aren't? Seems hypocritical to me.

You really think there's this vast conspiracy of hospitals to lie about covid and no one has come forward about it, and the only evidence is a tik tok video? I know you're a conspiracy believing retard but this is even low for you
They've put non-COVID deaths down as COVID because they get more funding if they do. They don't even loe about doing that either so I don't know why you're calling me a conspiracy theorist.
 
Sometimes. Doctors often forget to remove stuff from charts.

Right, but if it was this vast conspiracy of overinflating covid deaths, why wouldn't they just remove the non-covid stuff? You really think hospitals are able to do this huge medicare fraud scheme that CMS and CDC can't uncover, despite the evidence being on their own website, but you covid-deniers can? Come on now, you can't be this retarded.

No one is saying medicare fraud never happens, but it gets uncovered quickly more often than not. It doesn't always get uncovered right away, but when CMS does their auditing they usually catch shit.

Like I said, I am wasting my time because you have your head in the sand that there's this vast conspiracy to inflate covid deaths that somehow CMS and CDC can't uncover (despite the evidence being on their own websites), but you retards who deny covid and have zero education in medicine can? Yeah, seems legit.

Do you think that hospitals are lying about being at or over capacity and their ICUs aren't/weren't really overflowing?
There is fraud. It’s not some bloke twirling his moustaches and altering charts. It’s the government putting rules, process flows in place that allow the fraud to happen by just recording a half truth, or the truth in an untruthful way.
For example: any death within 28 days of a positive test = covid. Regardless of the true COD. If that’s the reporting criteria, then reporting Bob who got hit by a bus 27 days after testing +ve as a covid death is playing by the rules. Is that fraud? It’s not fraud on the part of the reporting party IF that’s what the reporting criteria are. The fault lies with the people making the reporting criteria.
The same with the PCR tests. I tell the lab to process these million tests, using this specific protocol, and this spec i of definition of positive. The lab does what the protocol says and finds 300,000 positives. Now 300k people have COVID. Next week I change the rules, and demand lateral flow tests. Now 25,000 positives. I can now put out a press release praising whatever measure I put in to lockdown, because it’s working right! The number don’t lie and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot or a science denier. The lab isn’t committing fraud - the people setting the rules are.
See how easy it is? How people just follow the rules and do their jobs? If I say men are women, then that man in a dress can win women’s Wimbledon. And I can can arrest anyone who protests for hate speech. I define what hate speech is by the way. My rules. I define what share trading gets halted on Wall Street, so my lot win and your lot lose.
When you write the rules you create the reality. So yes, there’s fraud. Massive, epic fraud. From PPE contracts to lab conditions to death certificates to newspapers.
 
This might shock you but even healthcare workers take breaks. I'd ask if you ever take breaks at work, but since you're unable to differentiate this I will now assume you are a spas on a tugboat.

The tiktok video was cringey and stupid but it was done on a break. I don't see why you retards keep bringing it up as evidence of a vast covid conspiracy.
I want to take a quick aside. Dancing around while people are dying is extremely disrespectful. If you are seriously overburdened by sick people, you wouldn't spend your breaks making dances. My country banned dancing all together during WW2. Just fucking compare Spanish flu with the current nurses dancing around for Tik Tok. That is the ultimate disrespect for the dead, no matter how much you personally believe Covid is a danger.


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I want to take a quick aside. Dancing around while people are dying is extremely disrespectful. If you are seriously overburdened by sick people, you wouldn't spend your breaks making dances. My country banned dancing all together during WW2. Just fucking compare Spanish flu with the current nurses dancing around for Tik Tok. That is the ultimate disrespect for the dead, no matter how much you personally believe Covid is a danger.


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I agree it was fucking stupid and disrespectful, but it was done back in March when the pandemic was in the very early stages. Using this as proof of covid being a hoax is completely retarded
 
I always say: all it takes to shake your faith in the news media is to hear a story reported on an issue where you're actually an expert (for me it was intellectual property). Once that happens, you realise the news isn't just clueless about that topic, but every topic.
I really like that, because it sums so much up. It explains the entire phenomenon of how the media manages to stay alive despite being proven liars over and over for the past several decades, if not centuries.

The majority of people are not experts in anything. The most they'll ever achieve is competency. Thus, they're easy to lie to. When they hear an inconsistency, they assume they're the ones who don't understand what's being said. When they hear something that contradicts what they know, they assume they're the ones who got it wrong and the news must be right. And even when they hear something they know is wrong, they'll doubt their own knowledge.

When you look at the kind of people who blindly follow the news, everything makes sense. They're either very young (and thus the farthest thing from an expert in anything) or fairly old (and thus may used to have been experts but aren't any more because they got complacent).

I think I only know one person who parrots the news who I'd consider an expert in something, and I think he's just so consumed with political zeal that he no longer cares that what he says is a lie so long as it's politically useful. That or he's just really stupid. It can be hard to tell the difference.
 
I agree it was fucking stupid and disrespectful, but it was done back in March when the pandemic was in the very early stages. Using this as proof of covid being a hoax is completely retarded
"Back in March". I'll just post this graph:
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These are the official stats that you trust
 
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Sometimes. Doctors often forget to remove stuff from charts.

those are not reliable numbers then

Right, but if it was this vast conspiracy of overinflating covid deaths, why wouldn't they just remove the non-covid stuff? You really think hospitals are able to do this huge medicare fraud scheme that CMS and CDC can't uncover, despite the evidence being on their own website, but you covid-deniers can? Come on now, you can't be this retarded.
you are the one claiming it's some grand conspiracy, I am merely saying that the numbers are overinflated, and it's been proven that it's true- vide the article posted earlier


Like I said, I am wasting my time because you have your head in the sand

you've been literally proven that hospitals have been caught are overreporting covid, you admit the cause of death contains somtehing that might not be the cause of death but an old diagnosis, and you can't refute that hospitals can pun anyone deceased as covid death

your only argument is that hospitals would never lie because they would get caught. you are hte one with head in the sand
I am starting to suspect you are not the famous wrestler Holk Hogan, as he is a reasonable person and would agree with me
 
Because Joe Biden won

You retards still believe this? lol oh wow
The left wing kooks that run the state of Colorado's health department apparently do

2 of the 5 deaths attributed to Covid in Grand County were gun shots.


They literally count anyone who tests positive for covid as a covid death regardless of it killed them or not.

What possible 'science' reason for this is there beyond inflating numbers?
 
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So basically, beyond the political dickslapping on this thread, numbers are dropping because the criteria is getting moved around. Now you have to be tested twice and show symptoms in some for it to count as Covid positive, probably because it's both politically and financially expedient for politicians and vaccine manufactures.

@Otterly points out the UK government criteria for a covid death to basically a month from catching it, to SAGE, one of the primary advisors being filled with people who benefit from vaccine production. The fix is in, this is all done to make people a shit load of money and maintain power.
 
Exactly. The public think of fraud as the kind of scale small time scammers and crims do - someone breaking the laws and rules for gain. What governments and corporations do is just change the rules.
People need to start realising that all of this - the covid response, BLM, race riots, boomer vs millenial, the election, the GME stocks thing - it’s all the upper classes changing the rules and setting up a system where the little man can’t win amd where money and power flows legally up the chain. The game is rigged.
 
I can confirm that CT values for some of our tests can go up to 40 (most are 35). Thats way too high absent symptoms to determine anything really. Average person who is actually ill with this ranges from 12-25.

Docs are starting to get sick of the bullshit here because its preventing well people from getting discharged/operations.
 
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Hey, please never stop posting. It's really valuable to get takes from someone who actually knows what they're talking about on this stuff. And it's pretty obvious this is in your wheelhouse.

I always say: all it takes to shake your faith in the news media is to hear a story reported on an issue where you're actually an expert (for me it was intellectual property). Once that happens, you realise the news isn't just clueless about that topic, but every topic. And you've been sat there treating this as gospel, repeating the talking points to your friends and work colleagues.

It's a sickening moment, because it doesn't necessarily mean that everything you've been told is wrong. But you know a lot of it, maybe a majority of it, was just utter horseshit.
It's even worse if you are the subject of the news. Back in the eighties I was, and the news reports were completely divorced from reality. Like, so far from it, I couldn't even recognize the event being reported on. The pebbles of facts were all true, but the narrative in the way they were arranged wasn't even a different interpretation, it was a completely different event entirely.
 
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