Why ARE coronavirus cases falling in the US with 44% drop in 3 weeks?


Why ARE COVID cases plummeting? New infections have fallen 45% in the US and 30% globally in the past 3 weeks but experts say vaccine is NOT the main driver because only 8% of Americans and 13% people worldwide have received their first dose​

  • Daily cases have dropped 45 percent since the latest peak on January 11, according to data from the COVID-19 Tracking Project . There were 131,341 new cases reported on Wednesday
  • The decline appears to be a global phenomenon, with new infections falling worldwide for the past three weeks in a row, the World Health Organization said Monday
  • Hospitalizations have fallen a whopping 26 percent since they peaked most recently on January 12
  • Currently, 44 states are seeing a decline in cases with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania trending upward, according to Johns Hopkins data
  • California's 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000
  • New York recorded 8,215 new infections on Tuesday, down from the record-high of 19,942 new cases reported on January 15
  • Health experts say it is too soon for vaccines to be playing a major role in the decline with just 8% of the population having received the first shot and fewer than 2% being fully immunized
  • Officials say the drop is likely due to a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest, as many as 90 million people, and fewer people traveling than did over the winter holidays

As the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. came to end, the nation is seeing signs of progress including plummeting rates of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations and accelerating vaccinations rates.
On Wednesday, 110,679 new infections were recorded, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, which is much lower than the 215,805 infections that were recorded just three weeks ago.
What's more, the seven-day rolling average of new cases currently sits at 135,904, a 44 percent decline from the average three weeks weeks earlier, a DailyMail.com analysis shows.
Forty-four states are seeing a decline in cases, Johns Hopkins data reveals, with just Alabama, Louisiana, Montana, New Jersey, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania, and the District of Columbia, on the upswing.
In addition, as the country headed into February, COVID-19 hospitalizations fell below 100,000 for the first time in two months.
Currently, 92,880 patients are hospitalized with the virus, the lowest figure seen since November 29 and falling nearly 30 percent from a peak of 132,474 on January 6, according to data from The COVID Tracking Project.
The U.S. death toll has surpassed 446,000 - with an average of about 3,200 deaths per day - but experts say fatalities are a lagging indicator and will likely increase over the next couple of weeks before declining as those severely infected over the winter holidays pass away.
However, most officials say that, with fewer than two percent of the population fully immunized against the virus, it is too soon to say that vaccines are causing the decline.
So the question remains: why are cases falling so fast in the U.S. and can the nation stay ahead of the fast-spreading mutations of the virus?
Public health experts believe that the decline in cases is likely a combination of a higher number of people who've had the virus than official counts suggest - meaning as many as 90 million people have antibodies against the virus - and fewer people traveling and holding gatherings than did over the winter holidays.
It's not just the U.S., however. The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday it has also seen declining new infections globally over the past three weeks. Our World in Data graphs show the daily infection rate has fallen by 30 percent in that period.
But Director-General Tedros Adhanom warned against relaxing restrictions to slow the spread of coronavirus on the heels of the good news.
'Over the past year, there have been moments in almost all countries when cases declined, and governments opened up too quickly, and individuals let down their guard, only for the virus to come roaring back,' he said.

Dr Ali Mokdad, a professor of Health Metrics Sciences at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), said there are a number of reasons for the decline in case.
One of the reasons for the sharp drop in cases, even if not the primary driver, are vaccines.
Despite a slow start, the pace of vaccinations has been increasing. More than 52.6 million doses have been distributed and 32.7 million have been administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
That figure is an increase from 16.5 million on January 20, Inauguration Day.
A total of 26.4 million people - about eight percent of the population - have received at least the first injection and six million - 1.8 percent - have been fully inoculated.
The average number of shots going into arms in the two weeks since Biden's inauguration has been around 1.3 million per day on average, more than the president's original goal of one million per day but less than his new goal of 1.5 million per day.
But these numbers are nowhere near the at least 65 percent required for herd immunity.
Experts say the decline in cases is likely due to other reasons instead, such as a higher number of people with natural immunity.
So far, 26.4 million cases - eight percent of the population - have been reported, according to Johns Hopkins.
However, most experts believe this is a severe undercount and only presents a portion of the true number of infections in the country, and Mokdad says likely another reason for the decline in cases.
Recent CDC models estimate that between February and December 2020, there were closer to 83.1 million infections in the U.S. In addition, to the six million cases reported in January, that means an estimated 89.1 million people have contracted the virus since the pandemic began.

The U.S., Europe, and the UK all reached their winter peaks of new daily infections around the same time in mid-January, statistics from Our World in Data show.
Cases in the three hard-hit parts of the world likely drove the global daily case rate to its highest point ever, with the seven-day rolling average of new cases reaching 736,396 on January 11.
By Tuesday, the average number of new daily cases worldwide had declined by 30 percent to 512,732.
Europe's new daily cases have declined from about 250,00 to about 180,000 a day, and the UK - which has been under lockdown since January 6 - is now seeing just 23,355 new cases on an average day, down from its January 9 peak of nearly 60,000.
And India, which is second only to the US for the highest number of COVID-19 cases, is seeing a decline, too.
New infections have fallen 25 percent in the past three weeks, to just 12,537 on an average day. Daily cases have plummeted from the country's September peak of 93,180 cases a day.
Mokdad says a higher percentage of infections in India, as much as 40 percent of the population being previously infected, has led to a decline because the country is heading closer to herd immunity.
But COVID-19 case rates there began to plummet far earlier and for different reasons than apply to wealthier nations like the UK and the US.
'In the wealthy countries...countries that are vaccinating right now, so European countries, and the fact they are in the northern hemisphere, the weather is going to turn out to be much better in the coming months,' Mokdad said.
'So a combination of vaccines, previous infections and the weather are going to lead to a decline.'
But if the northern hemisphere is going to see a decline in cases as we head into May, June and July, the southern hemisphere will likely see a rise as counties like Argentina, Australia and South Africa head into fall and winter.
'The seasonality will basically help some countries and is going to bea gainst certain countries,' he added.

In California, one of the nation's hotspots since the early days of the crisis, the rates of new infections and hospitalizations continue to fall.
The 21,451 new confirmed cases on Tuesday are about one-third the mid-December peak of 54,000.
Additionally, the state said the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 15,000, which is a drop of more than 25 percent in two weeks.
The state said that the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 slipped below 14,850 - a drop of more than 25% in two weeks.
Deaths remain staggeringly high, however, with more than 3,800 in the last week.
It took six months for California to record its first 10,000 deaths, then four months to double to 20,000. In just five more weeks the state reached 30,000.
It then took only 20 days to get to 40,000. On Sunday deaths rose to 40,697, while total cases topped 3.2 million.

Meanwhile, in New York - the nation's first epicenter - cases have fallen nearly 10 percent over the last week, an analysis of state and federal data reveals.
On Tuesday, the state reported 8,215 new infections with a 5.47 percent test positivity rate. This is down from the record-high 19,942 new cases and 6.14 percent positivity rate reported on January 15.
'In the here and now, all the news is good. You look at all the trend lines, it's good,' Governor Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Sunday.
The state had about 8,067 hospitalizations on Tuesday, which a decrease from the more than 9,000 that were reported in mid-January.
However, Cuomo warned New Yorkers that the new COVID-19 variants were still a threat and that people still had to follow mitigation measures like mask-wearing and social distancing.
'For me, I have been through this a number of times, and I anticipate the probability of the future to be ready for it,' he said.

More states are reporting similar downward trends.
In Florida, which was was reporting as many as 16,000 new cases a day early in January, just 10,533 cases were recorded on Tuesday.
Additionally, fewer than 7,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, in the state, down from almost 8,000 earlier in January, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
The statewide positivity rate decreased to 10.77 percent.
And Illinois, health officials reported 2,304 new confirmed and probable cases of COVID-19,a steep drop from the record-high of more than 15,000 reported in November.
The seven-day rolling average test positivity rate, which sits at 3.9 percent, is the lowest figure seen sicne early October and has been cut by more than half from a month ago.
What's more, with just about 2,500 hospitalized patients, it represents an 59 percent drop from the peak of 6,175 in mid-November
 
Lol no it's not. They go by cause of death for the numbers
Even rags like the daily Mail are being careful to say ‘died with covid.’ With, not of.
Every country counts differently but the uk is taking any death within 28 days of a positive test to be a covid death. So test positive on the dodgy as fuck not-fit-for-purpose PCR, then get hit by a bus three weeks later? Congratulations you’re a covid death.

Honestly? I have no idea what is and isn't true about any of this. I'm not an epidemiologist or a doctor, so I have to trust in authorities to explain these things to me. And over and over again, 2020 reinforced that I couldn't actually trust those authorities to be telling the truth.

The politicians and journalists made it very clear they were happy to use it for political purposes. The WHO was obviously following what the CCP was telling them, which made their information impossible to trust. Even many of the health authorities who were meant to be our reassuring scientific sources of information threw away all their credibility in declaring the BLM riots as safe because 'racism is more of a threat than the pandemic'. Even Dr. Fauci admitted to lying to the public in November, while there's now a troon in the upper echelons of government who we're supposed to trust with scientific information when he can't even accept that he is a man.

So, no, I don't think it's ludicrous to think the drop in numbers could be because they're no longer overreporting numbers for political reasons - I saw the vast differences in how numbers were reported in New York, California and Florida entirely due to politics. Do I believe it? Honestly, I don't know. I hope it's not true, but I certainly don't have faith that the authorities would tell us the truth, or wouldn't mess with the numbers.

If you have convincing, trustworthy evidence against it, I'd love to know. Because they are very hard to find right now.
We live in a post truth society my friend. The PCR was the definition of positive so last week that was truth and you were unpersoned if you said it wasn’t. Now the WHO says it’s bollocks and this week that is the truth. It’s self regulating - So nobody is sat there taking numbers out or adding them in as they don’t need to. It’s beautifully simple. You just change what the definition of the truth is and collect that data. Totally deniable, simple, changeable at will. We’ve always been at war with Oceania and two plus two has always been five. Isn’t the future thrilling?
 
Even rags like the daily Mail are being careful to say ‘died with covid.’ With, not of.
Every country counts differently but the uk is taking any death within 28 days of a positive test to be a covid death. So test positive on the dodgy as fuck not-fit-for-purpose PCR, then get hit by a bus three weeks later? Congratulations you’re a covid death.
The funny thing about this is, if a perfectly healthy person dies just HOURS after getting the vaccine they need to "do an investigation" because they can't be too sure if it's in any way connected to the cause of death.
 
The funny thing about this is, if a perfectly healthy person dies just HOURS after getting the vaccine they need to "do an investigation" because they can't be too sure if it's in any way connected to the cause of death.
I have certainly seen many previously compliant people realise this over the last year. If there’s one tiny shred of hope it’s that the scale of the deception over the covid response has shown normal people just how much they get lied to.
 
Even rags like the daily Mail are being careful to say ‘died with covid.’ With, not of.
Every country counts differently but the uk is taking any death within 28 days of a positive test to be a covid death. So test positive on the dodgy as fuck not-fit-for-purpose PCR, then get hit by a bus three weeks later? Congratulations you’re a covid death.
You anti-science fool! Don't you know his third grandma died of COVID?

To add to this, I know an individual who handled the bodies of people who had supposedly died from COVID and he has straight-up said he heard a supervisor ask about whether they could count something as a COVID death, ostensibly for financial reasons.
 
Honestly? I have no idea what is and isn't true about any of this. I'm not an epidemiologist or a doctor, so I have to trust in authorities to explain these things to me. And over and over again, 2020 reinforced that I couldn't actually trust those authorities to be telling the truth.

The politicians and journalists made it very clear they were happy to use it for political purposes. The WHO was obviously following what the CCP was telling them, which made their information impossible to trust. Even many of the health authorities who were meant to be our reassuring scientific sources of information threw away all their credibility in declaring the BLM riots as safe because 'racism is more of a threat than the pandemic'. Even Dr. Fauci admitted to lying to the public in November, while there's now a troon in the upper echelons of government who we're supposed to trust with scientific information when he can't even accept that he is a man.

So, no, I don't think it's ludicrous to think the drop in numbers could be because they're no longer overreporting numbers for political reasons - I saw the vast differences in how numbers were reported in New York, California and Florida entirely due to politics. Do I believe it? Honestly, I don't know. I hope it's not true, but I certainly don't have faith that the authorities would tell us the truth, or wouldn't mess with the numbers.

If you have convincing, trustworthy evidence against it, I'd love to know. Because they are very hard to find right now.
You know, this last year has been a total mind fuck for me. This whole medical research/molecular genetics thing is my wheelhouse, so to speak. And I know you’re joking but I have actually been told to shut up and trust the science, by people whose expertise is nil. Or my opinion is bigoted/nazi/etc becasue I’ve asked questions like ‘42 cycles for an RtPCR we are basing national house arrest on? Are you sure about that?’ When something of global importance happens, and you can understand all the primary sci/med data on it, and you see it being abused, twisted, and ignored to cause horrific damage to people on a global scale, it’s actually quite upsetting. Imagine you’ve spent your life questing for a cure for rabies and suddenly the government mandates everyone own five rabid dogs and a bat colony they have to sleep naked in. That kind of thing.
I’ve given up. The people in charge use science as a religion, not a tool.science is a tool not a dogma or a set belief.
They’re being advised by SAGE, who seem to be at least 10% foreign backed agitators (naming no names but rhymes with schmurgusen) people completely unsuited to give advice on pandemics, and almost ALL of the fuckers have financial interests in vaccines, PPE, or other firms that benefit from a lockdown. I believe bojo is well meaning but he’s got zero scientific knowledge amd is being advised by some really unsuitable people. And he clearly nearly croaked this year amd has taken a long time to bounce back, and is being led around by the balls but that’s a whole other thread...
It has genuinely been one of the most distressing, depressing episodes of my life. I now understand Gell-Man amnesia on a profound level. Clown world.
If this site ever gets nuked, save this thread, because it’s been the single most informative and balanced reportage on this whole sorry episode that I’ve seen.
The whole "trust the science" crowd are just complete lemmings. All the "science" has been thrown out the window when it comes to this virus. Keep changing definitions of infections and deaths, masks are not useful but suddenly are, go eat in Chinatown bigot. It's all so tiresome.
This is scientific outdoor dining to prevent Covid:
 
I wonder what changed couple weeks ago?
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Interesting this came out January 20th :thinking:
This is why. The rtPCR detects nucleic acid fragments, not exclusively active infection. There were reports that cycle thresholds were being amped past 42-45, which is trash. They were detecting any tiny bit of sequence and that could be a sloughed off but dead lung cell - literally a single cell adhering to the lung lining could give a positive if hacked up onto a swab under that kind of cycling. The PCR should never have been used like this.
Such a scam.

I run RT-PCR with Thermo-Fisher's system (they use a Ct of 40) and I've personally had at least 7 full tests (94 patient samples) fail because of false positives on our controls. When I rerun the exact same RNA extract it passes without a problem and our environmental monitoring program hasn't shown a single positive anywhere in our lab. We don't have a contamination problem. I've probably reported thousands of results as positive when they barely turn positive at the 38th or 39th cycle. If I ran those samples again I guarantee they'd come out negative. Kinda feels bad knowing I'm partially responsible for falsely diagnosing people with something that could disrupt their lives for months (:_(
 
Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything

Can't even leave my house right now because of the snow piled up against the storm doors.
That's just dumb reasoning. Covid infections were at it's lowest in Summer when people go out of their homes. Ever heard of flu season that happens every winter when it's "Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything".

Did you people know that UKs flu cases are down 95%? It's totally not that flu is being misdiagnosed as Covid by these PCR tests.
 
That's just dumb reasoning. Covid infections were at it's lowest in Summer when people go out of their homes. Ever heard of flu season that happens every winter when it's "Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything".

Did you people know that UKs flu cases are down 90%? It's totally not that flu is being misdiagnosed as Covid by these PCR tests.
Normal flu season still has kids going to school and people going out to work and hang out.

As much as people complain about parties or whatever, there's still a lot of stuff shut down or adapted

Also a lot of the people vulnerable to the virus have died since the start so its not like they're getting reinfected anymore
 
Even rags like the daily Mail are being careful to say ‘died with covid.’ With, not of.
Every country counts differently but the uk is taking any death within 28 days of a positive test to be a covid death. So test positive on the dodgy as fuck not-fit-for-purpose PCR, then get hit by a bus three weeks later? Congratulations you’re a covid death.
Citation needed on this. I can't believe you guys still believe this
You anti-science fool! Don't you know his third grandma died of COVID?
I never claimed my grandmother died of covid, you retard. My grandma has been dead for a decade now.
To add to this, I know an individual who handled the bodies of people who had supposedly died from COVID and he has straight-up said he heard a supervisor ask about whether they could count something as a COVID death, ostensibly for financial reasons.
 
Normal flu season still has kids going to school and people going out to work and hang out.

As much as people complain about parties or whatever, there's still a lot of stuff shut down or adapted

Also a lot of the people vulnerable to the virus have died since the start so its not like they're getting reinfected anymore
So if flu isn't being transmitted, why is Covid still going? Wouldn't it also be down 95%? Not just halved AFTER the testing criteria was changed?

Also still, your initial claim was "Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything"
 
Had to give up an entire fucking year of my life because the retardocrats really wanted that dumbfuck out of office. If I could say some stupid edgy shit without having to add "in minecraft", I would.

Citation needed on this. I can't believe you guys still believe this

I never claimed my grandmother died of covid, you retard. My grandma has been dead for a decade now.

You're really good at this low effort shit.
 
Normal flu season still has kids going to school and people going out to work and hang out.

I don't know a single person that has been laid off since covid for longer than a month. I know of only two that have been working from home. Every school kid I know is back attending classes in person. The only businesses that I know that are still shut here down are theaters.

Obviously these results are not universal, I make no claim that they are, but some people seem to assume that everywhere is NYC or London in terms of lockdown. It's not, and never was. Was it rough? Yeah, most of the strip malls around here have several shuttered businesses now. The corpses of vape shops and nail salons dot the land. But plenty of people are still going out and doing things, socializing, etc. Hell, I went to a buffet restaurant for lunch two days ago. The only thing that's changed is they have hand sanitizer pumps at the buffet now.
 
Citation needed on this. I can't believe you guys still believe this

What is changing?

Two new deaths indicators will now be used by all four nations in the UK to provide a full picture of both recent trends and the longer-term burden of the disease.

The additional indicators which will be used to calculate daily death figures are:

  • the number of deaths in people with COVID-19 that occur within 28 days of a first positive laboratory-confirmed test. This is intended to provide a headline indicator of the immediate impact of recent epidemic activity. Deaths that occur more than 28 days after a positive test will not be included in this count.
  • the number of deaths that occur within 60 days of a first positive test. Deaths that occur after 60 days will also be added to this figure if COVID-19 appears on the death certificate. This will provide a more complete measure of the burden of the disease over time.
I believe in Science™️ of the UK government.
 
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Bear with me powerleveling a bit, but here's what I can say about covid since I work in a hospital as an X-ray tech.
Like a lot of you, I don't trust anything that comes from media or politicians when it comes to this shit. Yes most of the deaths that I have witnessed that had the coof were old people (75+) with pre-existing conditions. But I've also seen a guy who seemed relatively healthy to me that was in his mid-40s that died with the coof. As well as a few others that aren't geezers die from it. However, at the same time, I have friends that have gotten it and totally powered through it with minimal symptoms, which seems to be the vast majority of people.

I think a lot of the paranoia and fear of the coof is totally manufactured by the media, but that doesn't that there isn't some level of risk in getting it. And I'm definitely not an anti-vaxxer, but considering the amount of bank pharmaceutical companies are going to make off of the vaccine, I probably wouldn't have gotten it if I wasn't voluntold to as a healthcare worker.

So I guess my conclusion as just another retard on the internet would be this- yes covid is real and yes there is risk to it, but there are risks to everything in life. And people, especially the elderly, die from diseases all the time. That doesn't diminish it being tragic if it's someone you know personally in your family; but my first reaction to my grandpa dying 15 years ago of the flu wasn't to shut down the entire country.

I think the increased spike in small businesses closing, domestic abuse, suicide, depression, misttrust of family members, and a general malaise that's affected the country because of both lockdowns and media-driven paranoia because of covid has been an overall greater net-negative than actual deaths related to it.
 
So if flu isn't being transmitted, why is Covid still going? Wouldn't it also be down 95%? Not just halved AFTER the testing criteria was changed?

Also still, your initial claim was "Its too fucking cold to go outside and catch anything"
CoVID is more virulent than the flu, since flu shots have been normal for a while now

Flu season and cold season arent congruent anymore. Fall and early winter arent as cold as they used to be but jan and febr still fucking suck
 

I believe in Science™️ of the UK government.
Yeah, except that's just subcriteria of it. That's not them saying "anyone with that will count as a covid death", that's them saying "Anyone with that would be eligible to count as a covid death". There's a big difference there. Then again, you guys have shown time and time again that you aren't good at interpreting data from the CDC/WHO/etc

You're really good at this low effort shit.
Then maybe he should stop making up stories
 
Yeah, except that's just subcriteria of it. That's not them saying "anyone with that will count as a covid death", that's them saying "Anyone with that would be eligible to count as a covid death". There's a big difference there. Then again, you guys have shown time and time again that you aren't good at interpreting data from the CDC/WHO/etc
Except that the within 28 days of positive test is used as the main indicator. Also notice death certificate number on picture is up to 22.1.2021 while positive test is current.
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If we then go look at the latest date both are tabulated (22-01-2021):

Deaths within 28 days of positive test by date of death: total 99,983
Daily deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate by date of death: total 117,378

So they have actually in some cases marked COVID-19 as the reason for death on the death certificate even without positive test results.
 
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