Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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'Groken' is the project, here's his blog showing some of his work https://mitografia.tumblr.com/. One of the things that kind of separates his work from others is his use of watercolors.

I got into his art when he was on red hood and the outlaws. Kind of reminds me of walt simonson, sam kieth and larry elmore (from Dragonlance, D&D, etc).
Thank you. Just backed. And yes, I can see those influences too as well as a little Michael Turner in the way he does women's faces, which is always a good thing.
 
God Damn she's got an incredible arse. 😍
Thirst posting in the comicsgate thread? Smh that's retarded.
Eh. To be fair, on the Weebwars side, I once let on I would probably hate fuck Dominique Skye if offered the chance. Both of these woman are easy on the eyes, but still THOTs.

At the opposite extreme though, you got people on @NasserRabadi13's stream the other night. Goddamn, if there wasn't a group of simps that need to be ruthlessly mocked. Holy shit, pick your battles better guys.
 
Eh. To be fair, on the Weebwars side, I once let on I would probably hate fuck Dominique Skye if offered the chance. Both of these woman are easy on the eyes, but still THOTs.

At the opposite extreme though, you got people on @NasserRabadi13's stream the other night. Goddamn, if there wasn't a group of simps that need to be ruthlessly mocked. Holy shit, pick your battles better guys.
You're right, I couldn't bring myself to listen after awhile, so just turned down the volume and read the chat. Lady A. doesn't do angry in a sexy way, does she? She's got a nice routine for doing graceful decorum but when that drops she turns into the worst example of the Jersey-Shore stereotype.

And yet despite this revelation still they all simped.

It was so embarrassing. Those guys just need to keep hold of their donations, head to the nearest red right, and find some shrill-harpy that will actually deliver a bang-for-their-buck.

Also while I'm at it she really should read up on this alchemy thing, because I don't think it presents the kind of image she wants, especially considering the whole field of Western alchemy was a renaissance cover for trooning out (sacred hermaphrodite and all that.)

Seriously, 'Lady Alchemy' sounds like the excuse given by a red-faced noble man when his wife asks him what the hell he is doing parading around in her undies.
 
I could have done without being remind of that literal crap. At least CG can brag about having the best smut on their side.
If you ever want some night terrors from pure, autistic degeneracy, may I suggest checking out the dox index of Weeb Wars. Sure, CG is it's own different beast of autism, but when it comes to a high score of overall degeneracy, some of these guys put Preston to shame. Though you're probably right about having the best smut. Martina, despite the shit going on, is indeed physically attractive. Hell, Sheila Allen isn't that bad looking either despite her being about 10 different levels of psychotic.
 
If you ever want some night terrors from pure, autistic degeneracy, may I suggest checking out the dox index of Weeb Wars. Sure, CG is it's own different beast of autism, but when it comes to a high score of overall degeneracy, some of these guys put Preston to shame. Though you're probably right about having the best smut. Martina, despite the shit going on, is indeed physically attractive. Hell, Sheila Allen isn't that bad looking either despite her being about 10 different levels of psychotic.

I'll pass on that especially since I just had dinner.
 
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At the opposite extreme though, you got people on @NasserRabadi13's stream the other night. Goddamn, if there wasn't a group of simps that need to be ruthlessly mocked. Holy shit, pick your battles better guys.
That stream was something else, @NasserRabadi13 and @TheCosmicWarrior I'm ashamed of the both of you. It took @TESTEFY-HD, Soy Rage, Well Read User and @VIkkiVerse to ask hard questions as the pair of you just listened and believed while nodding like a pair of bobbleheads.

Afterlife With Nasser #55

The stream opens up with Nasser and Martina Markota before they are both joined by Soy Rage at just over the four minute mark, the opening mostly involved light-heartened jokes from Soy at Nasser's expense. During the opening we get Soy Rage both tormenting Nasser and low key trolling Martina as he brings up various topics, such as Martina's husband making money on Blackberry stocks thanks to the recent Game Stonk phenomena gripping the US markets. ASYL artist Vic King joins the panel at close to the nine minute mark but doesn't really have much to stay and largely remains silent. It isn't until the twelve minute mark that the topic of todays stream Lady Alchemy and the drama surrounding is finally broached by Nasser, asking Martina the origins of the idea. What follows is a glorious trashfire which stems from the tag team duo of Testefy and VikkiVerse asking legitimate questions bullying Martina from the chat, while Martina's husband Jack Buckby chimes in occasionally from off camera to defend his wife. Jon Del Arroz/TheCosmicWarrior joins the panel at close to the forty minute mark and later Testefy would briefly join at the one hour fourteen minute mark. Jon would later leave at the one hour sixteen minute mark to join a Super Bowl party and that concludes the line up of guests on the close to two hour stream.

Instead of writing a long and tedious write up, instead I thought I'd focus on certain things Martina claims and lets slip, while offering counter evidence below.

16:20 Martina states that the person who had the idea for Lady Alchemy, her artist Maz, is far-right and wanted "Lady Alchemy fighting Moloch in Israel and wanted Nazi's in the book" which according to her own evidence was a suggestion from the writer Christopher Speidel/CS and not Maz.

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The exact quote is "Book 5 is Germany, we get to play around with Nazis... And Book 10 is Israel where she has her final battle with the Ancient Owl God Moloch, the god of child sacrifice." While on the surface this might raise a few eyebrows, there is nothing inherently wrong with either suggestion. Numerous super heroes like Captain America "played around" with Nazi's in comic books, there's nothing to suggest the book would become an ode to Mein Kampf.

21:50 Nasser reads a question from The Trash Compactor Show asking about the details surrounding any contracts with the individuals Martina was previously involved with.

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Martina maintains that this person (Maz) "refused to sign a contract" and states that a contract is irrelevant since she ceased using his artwork, which is false according to the archives of the previous campaign pages.
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Now it could be argued that since Martina paid Maz for this artwork it is her property, however she verbally states on the stream with Nasser that she "doesn't want his art" which could be seen as her relinquishing ownership. In addition since no contract exists between the two parties, it is ambiguous who the owner is. Martina does argue however she meets three standards for "implied license" since she did commission the artwork. Martina and Vic King take the time to dunk on Maz for "tracing photos for the artwork" completely oblivious to the fact that it was Martina sending him photos deliberately to trace in the first place. It is ironic she had no problem with tracing being used in her book when she was on good terms with Maz, but now it's a problem since their business relationship fell apart.

25:19 Soy Rage asks in response to Martina if this Maz was on a team, Martina states "as far as I know he was not on a team or anything" when discussing the ownership of the Indiegogo campaign profile. This is disputed by Maz who claims that he created the Indiegogo profile, Martina changed passwords to the account and locked him out, he also claims he was responsible for shipping the extras like T-Shirts and Posters which would have required backer information to do so.

37:37 Martina is asked by Testefy when she received the Indiegogo money from the campaign, which would have been the 25K the campaign entered in-demand with.

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Martina answers "in 2018" so we know she would have received at least the initial 25K within 9 days of the campaign ending back during 2018, before her bank account with Chase was closed in 2019 due to her political associations.

38:10 We can hear Martina's husband Jack blowing up about a comment VikkiVerse leaves in the chat, stating that the original campaign listed that the book was "created by all three of them".

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Martina states "I have no idea who Chris is" yet according to her own evidence she has multiple emails with a Chris Speidel and multiple skype calls.
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Martina then doubles down and states "and you know what, even if you claim which is not true, even if you claim there was a Maz and Chris on the original campaign BOO fucking HOO." As already shown previously two individuals were listed as co-creators on the campaign with the initials MG and CS whom both share initials with Maziar Golestanehzadeh and Christopher Speidel, coincidentally the two individuals named in the current lawsuit [archive].


39:05 Martina again flies off the handle as Vikki points out that Martina and Maz did an interview together back in 2018 to which Martina responds "no Moz did not do an interview, there was an artist called MG who was the artist on the camp.. I OWN THE CAMPAIGN, I OWN IT." Unfortunately this Bounding Into Comics [archive] article disproves Martina once again.

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40:13 Martina goes into a tirade about how Vikki has been stalking her and is clearly "talking to Moz the neo-nazi.. and side with literal anti-semites who wanted to make Lady Alchemy play around with nazis in Germany in book 10 and go to Israel and fight Moloch" why you siding with nazis @VIkkiVerse? As I previously pointed out "playing around with nazis" is pretty ambiguous and I assume they would have been the villains of book 5 as Indiegogo would yeet that campaign faster than Martina brags about being on a billboard. As for Moloch being some anti-semitic trope, it is well known that child sacrifice was associated with this biblical figure and fallen Angel in Abrahamic scripture. Given that Israel is the holy land for Jews, Christians and Muslims, the setting wouldn't be that out of place. I'm not convinced that a man named Maziar Golestanehzadeh would be a white supremacist anymore than a man named Jon Del Arroz, and judging from his pigmentation he doesn't appear to be the nazi's desired demographic.

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Unless Martina can show evidence of Maz and Chris reciting the 14 words while jack booting around the streets waving their tiki torches in boogaloo gear, I'm remaining skeptical on this one.

40:48 Jon then segues off to gaslight Vikki for asking questions comparing himself to Martina, stating that Vikki was his friend but they had a falling out due to Jon patching things up with Ethan. This is of course false as Vikki and Jon's falling out was before Jon patched things up and was due to him labelling NAP Misfit as a pedophile.


Nice try Jon... :lit:

45:45 Nasser very naively defends Martina from Vikki's accusations that Martina is grifting, stating that "Martina would have just run off with the money" ignoring the fact the only reason she has recently popped back up in Comicsgate is because she needs more money. Perhaps Comicsgate should have launched a GFM for Cridious to fight Preston for the CG trademark afterall aye Nasser? ;) Nasser also points out that Martina has already fulfilled aspects of the campaign, unaware it was actually Maz who fulfilled the posters and t-shirts himself.

50:40 Soy Rage asks Martina for clarification on whether any of this GFM money will be going towards fulfilling the Lady Alchemy book rather than the lawsuit. Martina denies this but admits that she made a mistake during calculating shipping costs, namely international and "doesn't have the money for shipping." Martina promises that she will ship out of her own funds and will fulfill the book out of her own pocket and that she has "lost money" on this, something which I highly doubt.

53:21 Martina doubles down on Vikki again accusing her of siding with neo-nazi's and blaming her (Martina) the "real victim in all this." I do find it somewhat humorous that Martina is accusing overweight spic's of being neo-nazi's given her choice for a husband.

56:41 Martina claims she was unhappy with the quality of Maz's artwork, when her own evidence proves this is again false.
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1:01:03 The topic of shipping comes up again and Martina claims she will get a job, stream everyday, sell stuff and do whatever it takes to fulfill the book which leads me to believe much like Detective Dead that the money is gone. Martina claims shipping is $3.15/book and she charged $7 for shipping on her campaign. Soy Rage then points out that the money for shipping should have been set aside and not used for anything else, but Martina tries to deflect into fighting the lawsuit as a possible reason she is out of money and that "priorities have changed."

1:03:30 A commentator states that "Martina you need 2 do a 1on1 with EVS" which Nasser reads aloud and Martina agrees with.

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How about it @FROG are you going to touch this clusterfuck with a ten foot pole? Personally I'd strongly recommend against it, but I admit I would enjoy another stream in which Martina digs her grave deeper. Maybe try and get @VIkkiVerse on there too? ;)

1:05:42 Martina contradicts herself again stating she never was involved with Christopher, despite him being named in initials on the campaign page that apparently she owned and conversed with via email and skype for months. Soon after Well Read User asks if the possibility of refunding everyone exists.

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Martina then asks how she can refund everyone when "you've paid an artist $4450, tens of thousands in merch, you've paid taxes already and then the new team." No one on the panel even thinks to question Martina on the "tens of thousands in merch" when again according to her own evidence she was billed $2000 for posters and $600 for stickers.
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Those T-Shirts must be really comfortable for costing Martina "tens of thousands" of dollars.

1:12:00 We are treated to Martina sperging the fuck out at Vikki calling her a retard, doubting whether Vikki can do long division and asks if Vikki is collecting disability welfare. I highly recommend watching this segment, congrats Vikki! :lit:

1:13:40 Testefy joins and proceeds to shit all over Martina another high recommend for this segment. :lit:

1:14:50 Jack and Martina maintain that they were "scammed" by the previous artist (Maz) despite earning over 48K for Lady Alchemy and paying him less than 10% of what the campaign earnt.

1:24:00 Martina again lies stating that the emails she received from Chris and Maz that were featured here and emailed back in late December 2019 were released AFTER they appeared on the Dick Show. This is clearly a lie as their appearance on the Dick Show was during late March of 2020 with Doug TenNapel as he was crowdfunding Bigfoot Bill 2.

1:40:32 Nasser is asked by Soy Rage for his assessment on the situation and Nasser brings up his history with Donal as a similar situation. Nasser however doesn't seem to understand that in this situation Maz would be him and Martina would be Donal.

1:45:00 Martina states that not only is this a copyright/trademark issue and mentions that she is also being sued for "severe emotional distress" by Maz in the lawsuit.

TLDR
Martina by her own evidence lied and contradicted herself multiple times throughout the Nasser stream and yet neither @NasserRabadi13 nor @TheCosmicWarrior could pick up on it. This interview was made great from the collective efforts of Vikki, Testefy, Well Read User and Soy Rage who asked legitimate questions only to trigger absurd outbursts and doublespeak for answers. These Maz and Chris individuals clearly are using this lawsuit for some malicious outcome but in all honesty Martina herself comes across just as shady.

Nasser and Jon, your kiwi credentials are hereby revoked until you can learn to ask a fucking question and think critically instead of just bobbing along like a pair of star-struck simps. You seriously let this chick walk all over your platforms, blatantly lying to your viewers so she can milk them out of more money. It's ironic you both simping for the wife of a man, who if ever got the chance would throw your asses out of the UK for being the wrong color, turn around and call some fat Mexican a neo-nazi. :lit:

You're both hereby sentenced to read the entire Alinity thread and the entire Pokimane thread and DM me a 500 word essay on why you never trust e-thots on the fucking internet.

The only question that should have been asked.
 
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That stream was something else, @NasserRabadi13 and @TheCosmicWarrior I'm ashamed of the both of you. It took @TESTEFY-HD, Soy Rage, Well Read User and @VIkkiVerse to ask hard questions as the pair of you just listened and believed while nodding like a pair of bobbleheads.

Afterlife With Nasser #55

The stream opens up with Nasser and Martina Markota before they are both joined by Soy Rage at just over the four minute mark, the opening mostly involved light-heartened jokes from Soy at Nasser's expense. During the opening we get Soy Rage both tormenting Nasser and low key trolling Martina as he brings up various topics, such as Martina's husband making money on Blackberry stocks thanks to the recent Game Stonk phenomena gripping the US markets. ASYL artist Vic King joins the panel at close to the nine minute mark but doesn't really have much to stay and largely remains silent. It isn't until the twelve minute mark that the topic of todays stream Lady Alchemy and the drama surrounding is finally broached by Nasser, asking Martina the origins of the idea. What follows is a glorious trashfire which stems from the tag team duo of Testefy and VikkiVerse asking legitimate questions bullying Martina from the chat, while Martina's husband Jack Buckby chimes in occasionally from off camera to defend his wife. Jon Del Arroz/TheCosmicWarrior joins the panel at close to the forty minute mark and later Testefy would briefly join at the one hour fourteen minute mark. Jon would later leave at the one hour sixteen minute mark to join a Super Bowl party and that concludes the line up of guests on the close to two hour stream.

Instead of writing a long and tedious write up, instead I thought I'd focus on certain things Martina claims and lets slip, while offering counter evidence below.

16:20 Martina states that the person who had the idea for Lady Alchemy, her artist Maz, is far-right and wanted "Lady Alchemy fighting Moloch in Israel and wanted Nazi's in the book" which according to her own evidence was a suggestion from the writer Christopher Speidel/CS and not Maz.


The exact quote is "Book 5 is Germany, we get to play around with Nazis... And Book 10 is Israel where she has her final battle with the Ancient Owl God Moloch, the god of child sacrifice." While on the surface this might raise a few eyebrows, there is nothing inherently wrong with either suggestion. Numerous super heroes like Captain America "played around" with Nazi's in comic books, there's nothing to suggest the book would become an ode to Mein Kampf.

21:50 Nasser reads a question from The Trash Compactor Show asking about the details surrounding any contracts with the individuals Martina was previously involved with.


Martina maintains that this person (Maz) "refused to sign a contract" and states that a contract is irrelevant since she ceased using his artwork, which is false according to the archives of the previous campaign pages.

Now it could be argued that since Martina paid Maz for this artwork it is her property, however she verbally states on the stream with Nasser that she "doesn't want his art" which could be seen as her relinquishing ownership. In addition since no contract exists between the two parties, it is ambiguous who the owner is. Martina does argue however she meets three standards for "implied license" since she did commission the artwork. Martina and Vic King take the time to dunk on Maz for "tracing photos for the artwork" completely oblivious to the fact that it was Martina sending him photos deliberately to trace in the first place. It is ironic she had no problem with tracing being used in her book when she was on good terms with Maz, but now it's a problem since their business relationship fell apart.

25:19 Soy Rage asks in response to Martina if this Maz was on a team, Martina states "as far as I know he was not on a team or anything" when discussing the ownership of the Indiegogo campaign profile. This is disputed by Maz who claims that he created the Indiegogo profile, Martina changed passwords to the account and locked him out, he also claims he was responsible for shipping the extras like T-Shirts and Posters which would have required backer information to do so.

37:37 Martina is asked by Testefy when she received the Indiegogo money from the campaign, which would have been the 25K the campaign entered in-demand with.


Martina answers "in 2018" so we know she would have received at least the initial 25K within 9 days of the campaign ending back during 2018, before her bank account with Chase was closed in 2019 due to her political associations.

38:10 We can hear Martina's husband Jack blowing up about a comment VikkiVerse leaves in the chat, stating that the original campaign listed that the book was "created by all three of them".


Martina states "I have no idea who Chris is" yet according to her own evidence she has multiple emails with a Chris Speidel and multiple skype calls.

Martina then doubles down and states "and you know what, even if you claim which is not true, even if you claim there was a Maz and Chris on the original campaign BOO fucking HOO." As already shown previously two individuals were listed as co-creators on the campaign with the initials MG and CS whom both share initials with Maziar Golestanehzadeh and Christopher Speidel, coincidentally the two individuals named in the current lawsuit [archive].


39:05 Martina again flies off the handle as Vikki points out that Martina and Maz did an interview together back in 2018 to which Martina responds "no Moz did not do an interview, there was an artist called MG who was the artist on the camp.. I OWN THE CAMPAIGN, I OWN IT." Unfortunately this Bounding Into Comics [archive] article disproves Martina once again.

40:13 Martina goes into a tirade about how Vikki has been stalking her and is clearly "talking to Moz the neo-nazi.. and side with literal anti-semites who wanted to make Lady Alchemy play around with nazis in Germany in book 10 and go to Israel and fight Moloch" why you siding with nazis @VIkkiVerse? As I previously pointed out "playing around with nazis" is pretty ambiguous and I assume they would have been the villains of book 5 as Indiegogo would yeet that campaign faster than Martina brags about being on a billboard. As for Moloch being some anti-semitic trope, it is well known that child sacrifice was associated with this biblical figure and fallen Angel in Abrahamic scripture. Given that Israel is the holy land for Jews, Christians and Muslims, the setting wouldn't be that out of place. I'm not convinced that a man named Maziar Golestanehzadeh would be a white supremacist anymore than a man named Jon Del Arroz, and judging from his pigmentation he doesn't appear to be the nazi's desired demographic.


Unless Martina can show evidence of Maz and Chris reciting the 14 words while jack booting around the streets waving their tiki torches in boogaloo gear, I'm remaining skeptical on this one.

40:48 Jon then segues off to gaslight Vikki for asking questions comparing himself to Martina, stating that Vikki was his friend but they had a falling out due to Jon patching things up with Ethan. This is of course false as Vikki and Jon's falling out was before Jon patched things up and was due to him labelling NAP Misfit as a pedophile.


Nice try Jon... :lit:

45:45 Nasser very naively defends Martina from Vikki's accusations that Martina is grifting, stating that "Martina would have just run off with the money" ignoring the fact the only reason she has recently popped back up in Comicsgate is because she needs more money. Perhaps Comicsgate should have launched a GFM for Cridious to fight Preston for the CG trademark afterall aye Nasser? ;) Nasser also points out that Martina has already fulfilled aspects of the campaign, unaware it was actually Maz who fulfilled the posters and t-shirts himself.

50:40 Soy Rage asks Martina for clarification on whether any of this GFM money will be going towards fulfilling the Lady Alchemy book rather than the lawsuit. Martina denies this but admits that she made a mistake during calculating shipping costs, namely international and "doesn't have the money for shipping." Martina promises that she will ship out of her own funds and will fulfill the book out of her own pocket and that she has "lost money" on this, something which I highly doubt.

53:21 Martina doubles down on Vikki again accusing her of siding with neo-nazi's and blaming her (Martina) the "real victim in all this." I do find it somewhat humorous that Martina is accusing overweight spic's of being neo-nazi's given her choice for a husband.

56:41 Martina claims she was unhappy with the quality of Maz's artwork, when her own evidence proves this is again false.

1:01:03 The topic of shipping comes up again and Martina claims she will get a job, stream everyday, sell stuff and do whatever it takes to fulfill the book which leads me to believe much like Detective Dead that the money is gone. Martina claims shipping is $3.15/book and she charged $7 for shipping on her campaign. Soy Rage then points out that the money for shipping should have been set aside and not used for anything else, but Martina tries to deflect into fighting the lawsuit as a possible reason she is out of money and that "priorities have changed."

1:03:30 A commentator states that "Martina you need 2 do a 1on1 with EVS" which Nasser reads aloud and Martina agrees with.


How about it @FROG are you going to touch this clusterfuck with a ten foot pole? Personally I'd strongly recommend against it, but I admit I would enjoy another stream in which Martina digs her grave deeper. Maybe try and get @VIkkiVerse on there too? ;)

1:05:42 Martina contradicts herself again stating she never was involved with Christopher, despite him being named in initials on the campaign page that apparently she owned and conversed with via email and skype for months. Soon after Well Read User asks if the possibility of refunding everyone exists.


Martina then asks how she can refund everyone when "you've paid an artist $4450, tens of thousands in merch, you've paid taxes already and then the new team." No one on the panel even thinks to question Martina on the "tens of thousands in merch" when again according to her own evidence she was billed $2000 for posters and $600 for stickers.

Those T-Shirts must be really comfortable for costing Martina "tens of thousands" of dollars.

1:12:00 We are treated to Martina sperging the fuck out at Vikki calling her a retard, doubting whether Vikki can do long division and asks if Vikki is collecting disability welfare. I highly recommend watching this segment, congrats Vikki! :lit:

1:13:40 Testefy joins and proceeds to shit all over Martina another high recommend for this segment. :lit:

1:14:50 Jack and Martina maintain that they were "scammed" by the previous artist (Maz) despite earning over 48K for Lady Alchemy and paying him less than 10% of what the campaign earnt.

1:24:00 Martina again lies stating that the emails she received from Chris and Maz that were featured here and emailed back in late December 2019 were released AFTER they appeared on the Dick Show. This is clearly a lie as their appearance on the Dick Show was during late March of 2020 with Doug TenNapel as he was crowdfunding Bigfoot Bill 2.

1:40:32 Nasser is asked by Soy Rage for his assessment on the situation and Nasser brings up his history with Donal as a similar situation. Nasser however doesn't seem to understand that in this situation Maz would be him and Martina would be Donal.

1:45:00 Martina states that not only is this a copyright/trademark issue and mentions that she is also being sued for "severe emotional distress" by Maz in the lawsuit.

TLDR
Martina by her own evidence lied and contradicted herself multiple times throughout the Nasser stream and yet neither @NasserRabadi13 nor @TheCosmicWarrior could pick up on it. This interview was made great from the collective efforts of Vikki, Testefy, Well Read User and Soy Rage who asked legitimate questions only to trigger absurd outbursts and doublespeak for answers. These Maz and Chris individuals clearly are using this lawsuit for some malicious outcome but in all honesty Martina herself comes across just as shady.

Nasser and Jon, your kiwi credentials are hereby revoked until you can learn to ask a fucking question and think critically instead of just bobbing along like a pair of star-struck simps. You seriously let this chick walk all over your platforms, blatantly lying to your viewers so she can milk them out of more money. It's ironic you both simping for the wife of a man, who if ever got the chance would throw your asses out of the UK for being the wrong color, turn around and call some fat Mexican a neo-nazi. :lit:

You're both hereby sentenced to read the entire Alinity thread and the entire Pokimane thread and DM me a 500 word essay on why you never trust e-thots on the fucking internet.

The only question that should have been asked.
This is a glorious summary. I commend you.

The only thing I would add is that some point near the end of the stream, she mentioned she worked for Rebel Media. As soon as she said that, things began to "click" for me. This is Ezra-tier grift fuckery. I would not give money to anybody who was ever associated with that outfit.

No, not even Lauren Southern.


Also, Well Read's stream concerning this whole shitshow was very good.


I also agree @FROG should not touch this with a barge pole. For one thing, this lawsuit shit hasn't exactly been working out for anybody lately. For another, I think it would make CG look anti-consumer. The ethical thing for a creator to do here would be to refund backers and cut your losses.
 
@NasserRabadi13 and @TheCosmicWarrior I'm ashamed of the both of you

What, only now? The time for that was when both went slinking back to the frog, thinking he would shield them from financial and social media pressures. With dopey crap like this, does Ethan regret putting on his magnanimous face, and once again wonder who's going to protect his public image and bottom line from them?
 
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That stream was something else, @NasserRabadi13 and @TheCosmicWarrior I'm ashamed of the both of you. It took @TESTEFY-HD, Soy Rage, Well Read User and @VIkkiVerse to ask hard questions as the pair of you just listened and believed while nodding like a pair of bobbleheads.

Afterlife With Nasser #55

The stream opens up with Nasser and Martina Markota before they are both joined by Soy Rage at just over the four minute mark, the opening mostly involved light-heartened jokes from Soy at Nasser's expense. During the opening we get Soy Rage both tormenting Nasser and low key trolling Martina as he brings up various topics, such as Martina's husband making money on Blackberry stocks thanks to the recent Game Stonk phenomena gripping the US markets. ASYL artist Vic King joins the panel at close to the nine minute mark but doesn't really have much to stay and largely remains silent. It isn't until the twelve minute mark that the topic of todays stream Lady Alchemy and the drama surrounding is finally broached by Nasser, asking Martina the origins of the idea. What follows is a glorious trashfire which stems from the tag team duo of Testefy and VikkiVerse asking legitimate questions bullying Martina from the chat, while Martina's husband Jack Buckby chimes in occasionally from off camera to defend his wife. Jon Del Arroz/TheCosmicWarrior joins the panel at close to the forty minute mark and later Testefy would briefly join at the one hour fourteen minute mark. Jon would later leave at the one hour sixteen minute mark to join a Super Bowl party and that concludes the line up of guests on the close to two hour stream.

Instead of writing a long and tedious write up, instead I thought I'd focus on certain things Martina claims and lets slip, while offering counter evidence below.

16:20 Martina states that the person who had the idea for Lady Alchemy, her artist Maz, is far-right and wanted "Lady Alchemy fighting Moloch in Israel and wanted Nazi's in the book" which according to her own evidence was a suggestion from the writer Christopher Speidel/CS and not Maz.


The exact quote is "Book 5 is Germany, we get to play around with Nazis... And Book 10 is Israel where she has her final battle with the Ancient Owl God Moloch, the god of child sacrifice." While on the surface this might raise a few eyebrows, there is nothing inherently wrong with either suggestion. Numerous super heroes like Captain America "played around" with Nazi's in comic books, there's nothing to suggest the book would become an ode to Mein Kampf.

21:50 Nasser reads a question from The Trash Compactor Show asking about the details surrounding any contracts with the individuals Martina was previously involved with.


Martina maintains that this person (Maz) "refused to sign a contract" and states that a contract is irrelevant since she ceased using his artwork, which is false according to the archives of the previous campaign pages.

Now it could be argued that since Martina paid Maz for this artwork it is her property, however she verbally states on the stream with Nasser that she "doesn't want his art" which could be seen as her relinquishing ownership. In addition since no contract exists between the two parties, it is ambiguous who the owner is. Martina does argue however she meets three standards for "implied license" since she did commission the artwork. Martina and Vic King take the time to dunk on Maz for "tracing photos for the artwork" completely oblivious to the fact that it was Martina sending him photos deliberately to trace in the first place. It is ironic she had no problem with tracing being used in her book when she was on good terms with Maz, but now it's a problem since their business relationship fell apart.

25:19 Soy Rage asks in response to Martina if this Maz was on a team, Martina states "as far as I know he was not on a team or anything" when discussing the ownership of the Indiegogo campaign profile. This is disputed by Maz who claims that he created the Indiegogo profile, Martina changed passwords to the account and locked him out, he also claims he was responsible for shipping the extras like T-Shirts and Posters which would have required backer information to do so.

37:37 Martina is asked by Testefy when she received the Indiegogo money from the campaign, which would have been the 25K the campaign entered in-demand with.


Martina answers "in 2018" so we know she would have received at least the initial 25K within 9 days of the campaign ending back during 2018, before her bank account with Chase was closed in 2019 due to her political associations.

38:10 We can hear Martina's husband Jack blowing up about a comment VikkiVerse leaves in the chat, stating that the original campaign listed that the book was "created by all three of them".


Martina states "I have no idea who Chris is" yet according to her own evidence she has multiple emails with a Chris Speidel and multiple skype calls.

Martina then doubles down and states "and you know what, even if you claim which is not true, even if you claim there was a Maz and Chris on the original campaign BOO fucking HOO." As already shown previously two individuals were listed as co-creators on the campaign with the initials MG and CS whom both share initials with Maziar Golestanehzadeh and Christopher Speidel, coincidentally the two individuals named in the current lawsuit [archive].


39:05 Martina again flies off the handle as Vikki points out that Martina and Maz did an interview together back in 2018 to which Martina responds "no Moz did not do an interview, there was an artist called MG who was the artist on the camp.. I OWN THE CAMPAIGN, I OWN IT." Unfortunately this Bounding Into Comics [archive] article disproves Martina once again.

40:13 Martina goes into a tirade about how Vikki has been stalking her and is clearly "talking to Moz the neo-nazi.. and side with literal anti-semites who wanted to make Lady Alchemy play around with nazis in Germany in book 10 and go to Israel and fight Moloch" why you siding with nazis @VIkkiVerse? As I previously pointed out "playing around with nazis" is pretty ambiguous and I assume they would have been the villains of book 5 as Indiegogo would yeet that campaign faster than Martina brags about being on a billboard. As for Moloch being some anti-semitic trope, it is well known that child sacrifice was associated with this biblical figure and fallen Angel in Abrahamic scripture. Given that Israel is the holy land for Jews, Christians and Muslims, the setting wouldn't be that out of place. I'm not convinced that a man named Maziar Golestanehzadeh would be a white supremacist anymore than a man named Jon Del Arroz, and judging from his pigmentation he doesn't appear to be the nazi's desired demographic.


Unless Martina can show evidence of Maz and Chris reciting the 14 words while jack booting around the streets waving their tiki torches in boogaloo gear, I'm remaining skeptical on this one.

40:48 Jon then segues off to gaslight Vikki for asking questions comparing himself to Martina, stating that Vikki was his friend but they had a falling out due to Jon patching things up with Ethan. This is of course false as Vikki and Jon's falling out was before Jon patched things up and was due to him labelling NAP Misfit as a pedophile.


Nice try Jon... :lit:

45:45 Nasser very naively defends Martina from Vikki's accusations that Martina is grifting, stating that "Martina would have just run off with the money" ignoring the fact the only reason she has recently popped back up in Comicsgate is because she needs more money. Perhaps Comicsgate should have launched a GFM for Cridious to fight Preston for the CG trademark afterall aye Nasser? ;) Nasser also points out that Martina has already fulfilled aspects of the campaign, unaware it was actually Maz who fulfilled the posters and t-shirts himself.

50:40 Soy Rage asks Martina for clarification on whether any of this GFM money will be going towards fulfilling the Lady Alchemy book rather than the lawsuit. Martina denies this but admits that she made a mistake during calculating shipping costs, namely international and "doesn't have the money for shipping." Martina promises that she will ship out of her own funds and will fulfill the book out of her own pocket and that she has "lost money" on this, something which I highly doubt.

53:21 Martina doubles down on Vikki again accusing her of siding with neo-nazi's and blaming her (Martina) the "real victim in all this." I do find it somewhat humorous that Martina is accusing overweight spic's of being neo-nazi's given her choice for a husband.

56:41 Martina claims she was unhappy with the quality of Maz's artwork, when her own evidence proves this is again false.

1:01:03 The topic of shipping comes up again and Martina claims she will get a job, stream everyday, sell stuff and do whatever it takes to fulfill the book which leads me to believe much like Detective Dead that the money is gone. Martina claims shipping is $3.15/book and she charged $7 for shipping on her campaign. Soy Rage then points out that the money for shipping should have been set aside and not used for anything else, but Martina tries to deflect into fighting the lawsuit as a possible reason she is out of money and that "priorities have changed."

1:03:30 A commentator states that "Martina you need 2 do a 1on1 with EVS" which Nasser reads aloud and Martina agrees with.


How about it @FROG are you going to touch this clusterfuck with a ten foot pole? Personally I'd strongly recommend against it, but I admit I would enjoy another stream in which Martina digs her grave deeper. Maybe try and get @VIkkiVerse on there too? ;)

1:05:42 Martina contradicts herself again stating she never was involved with Christopher, despite him being named in initials on the campaign page that apparently she owned and conversed with via email and skype for months. Soon after Well Read User asks if the possibility of refunding everyone exists.


Martina then asks how she can refund everyone when "you've paid an artist $4450, tens of thousands in merch, you've paid taxes already and then the new team." No one on the panel even thinks to question Martina on the "tens of thousands in merch" when again according to her own evidence she was billed $2000 for posters and $600 for stickers.

Those T-Shirts must be really comfortable for costing Martina "tens of thousands" of dollars.

1:12:00 We are treated to Martina sperging the fuck out at Vikki calling her a retard, doubting whether Vikki can do long division and asks if Vikki is collecting disability welfare. I highly recommend watching this segment, congrats Vikki! :lit:

1:13:40 Testefy joins and proceeds to shit all over Martina another high recommend for this segment. :lit:

1:14:50 Jack and Martina maintain that they were "scammed" by the previous artist (Maz) despite earning over 48K for Lady Alchemy and paying him less than 10% of what the campaign earnt.

1:24:00 Martina again lies stating that the emails she received from Chris and Maz that were featured here and emailed back in late December 2019 were released AFTER they appeared on the Dick Show. This is clearly a lie as their appearance on the Dick Show was during late March of 2020 with Doug TenNapel as he was crowdfunding Bigfoot Bill 2.

1:40:32 Nasser is asked by Soy Rage for his assessment on the situation and Nasser brings up his history with Donal as a similar situation. Nasser however doesn't seem to understand that in this situation Maz would be him and Martina would be Donal.

1:45:00 Martina states that not only is this a copyright/trademark issue and mentions that she is also being sued for "severe emotional distress" by Maz in the lawsuit.

TLDR
Martina by her own evidence lied and contradicted herself multiple times throughout the Nasser stream and yet neither @NasserRabadi13 nor @TheCosmicWarrior could pick up on it. This interview was made great from the collective efforts of Vikki, Testefy, Well Read User and Soy Rage who asked legitimate questions only to trigger absurd outbursts and doublespeak for answers. These Maz and Chris individuals clearly are using this lawsuit for some malicious outcome but in all honesty Martina herself comes across just as shady.

Nasser and Jon, your kiwi credentials are hereby revoked until you can learn to ask a fucking question and think critically instead of just bobbing along like a pair of star-struck simps. You seriously let this chick walk all over your platforms, blatantly lying to your viewers so she can milk them out of more money. It's ironic you both simping for the wife of a man, who if ever got the chance would throw your asses out of the UK for being the wrong color, turn around and call some fat Mexican a neo-nazi. :lit:

You're both hereby sentenced to read the entire Alinity thread and the entire Pokimane thread and DM me a 500 word essay on why you never trust e-thots on the fucking internet.

The only question that should have been asked.
Great Summary.... Also

THE DUDE ABIDES
 
That stream was something else, @NasserRabadi13 and @TheCosmicWarrior I'm ashamed of the both of you. It took @TESTEFY-HD, Soy Rage, Well Read User and @VIkkiVerse to ask hard questions as the pair of you just listened and believed while nodding like a pair of bobbleheads.

Afterlife With Nasser #55

The stream opens up with Nasser and Martina Markota before they are both joined by Soy Rage at just over the four minute mark, the opening mostly involved light-heartened jokes from Soy at Nasser's expense. During the opening we get Soy Rage both tormenting Nasser and low key trolling Martina as he brings up various topics, such as Martina's husband making money on Blackberry stocks thanks to the recent Game Stonk phenomena gripping the US markets. ASYL artist Vic King joins the panel at close to the nine minute mark but doesn't really have much to stay and largely remains silent. It isn't until the twelve minute mark that the topic of todays stream Lady Alchemy and the drama surrounding is finally broached by Nasser, asking Martina the origins of the idea. What follows is a glorious trashfire which stems from the tag team duo of Testefy and VikkiVerse asking legitimate questions bullying Martina from the chat, while Martina's husband Jack Buckby chimes in occasionally from off camera to defend his wife. Jon Del Arroz/TheCosmicWarrior joins the panel at close to the forty minute mark and later Testefy would briefly join at the one hour fourteen minute mark. Jon would later leave at the one hour sixteen minute mark to join a Super Bowl party and that concludes the line up of guests on the close to two hour stream.

Instead of writing a long and tedious write up, instead I thought I'd focus on certain things Martina claims and lets slip, while offering counter evidence below.

16:20 Martina states that the person who had the idea for Lady Alchemy, her artist Maz, is far-right and wanted "Lady Alchemy fighting Moloch in Israel and wanted Nazi's in the book" which according to her own evidence was a suggestion from the writer Christopher Speidel/CS and not Maz.


The exact quote is "Book 5 is Germany, we get to play around with Nazis... And Book 10 is Israel where she has her final battle with the Ancient Owl God Moloch, the god of child sacrifice." While on the surface this might raise a few eyebrows, there is nothing inherently wrong with either suggestion. Numerous super heroes like Captain America "played around" with Nazi's in comic books, there's nothing to suggest the book would become an ode to Mein Kampf.

21:50 Nasser reads a question from The Trash Compactor Show asking about the details surrounding any contracts with the individuals Martina was previously involved with.


Martina maintains that this person (Maz) "refused to sign a contract" and states that a contract is irrelevant since she ceased using his artwork, which is false according to the archives of the previous campaign pages.

Now it could be argued that since Martina paid Maz for this artwork it is her property, however she verbally states on the stream with Nasser that she "doesn't want his art" which could be seen as her relinquishing ownership. In addition since no contract exists between the two parties, it is ambiguous who the owner is. Martina does argue however she meets three standards for "implied license" since she did commission the artwork. Martina and Vic King take the time to dunk on Maz for "tracing photos for the artwork" completely oblivious to the fact that it was Martina sending him photos deliberately to trace in the first place. It is ironic she had no problem with tracing being used in her book when she was on good terms with Maz, but now it's a problem since their business relationship fell apart.

25:19 Soy Rage asks in response to Martina if this Maz was on a team, Martina states "as far as I know he was not on a team or anything" when discussing the ownership of the Indiegogo campaign profile. This is disputed by Maz who claims that he created the Indiegogo profile, Martina changed passwords to the account and locked him out, he also claims he was responsible for shipping the extras like T-Shirts and Posters which would have required backer information to do so.

37:37 Martina is asked by Testefy when she received the Indiegogo money from the campaign, which would have been the 25K the campaign entered in-demand with.


Martina answers "in 2018" so we know she would have received at least the initial 25K within 9 days of the campaign ending back during 2018, before her bank account with Chase was closed in 2019 due to her political associations.

38:10 We can hear Martina's husband Jack blowing up about a comment VikkiVerse leaves in the chat, stating that the original campaign listed that the book was "created by all three of them".


Martina states "I have no idea who Chris is" yet according to her own evidence she has multiple emails with a Chris Speidel and multiple skype calls.

Martina then doubles down and states "and you know what, even if you claim which is not true, even if you claim there was a Maz and Chris on the original campaign BOO fucking HOO." As already shown previously two individuals were listed as co-creators on the campaign with the initials MG and CS whom both share initials with Maziar Golestanehzadeh and Christopher Speidel, coincidentally the two individuals named in the current lawsuit [archive].


39:05 Martina again flies off the handle as Vikki points out that Martina and Maz did an interview together back in 2018 to which Martina responds "no Moz did not do an interview, there was an artist called MG who was the artist on the camp.. I OWN THE CAMPAIGN, I OWN IT." Unfortunately this Bounding Into Comics [archive] article disproves Martina once again.

40:13 Martina goes into a tirade about how Vikki has been stalking her and is clearly "talking to Moz the neo-nazi.. and side with literal anti-semites who wanted to make Lady Alchemy play around with nazis in Germany in book 10 and go to Israel and fight Moloch" why you siding with nazis @VIkkiVerse? As I previously pointed out "playing around with nazis" is pretty ambiguous and I assume they would have been the villains of book 5 as Indiegogo would yeet that campaign faster than Martina brags about being on a billboard. As for Moloch being some anti-semitic trope, it is well known that child sacrifice was associated with this biblical figure and fallen Angel in Abrahamic scripture. Given that Israel is the holy land for Jews, Christians and Muslims, the setting wouldn't be that out of place. I'm not convinced that a man named Maziar Golestanehzadeh would be a white supremacist anymore than a man named Jon Del Arroz, and judging from his pigmentation he doesn't appear to be the nazi's desired demographic.


Unless Martina can show evidence of Maz and Chris reciting the 14 words while jack booting around the streets waving their tiki torches in boogaloo gear, I'm remaining skeptical on this one.

40:48 Jon then segues off to gaslight Vikki for asking questions comparing himself to Martina, stating that Vikki was his friend but they had a falling out due to Jon patching things up with Ethan. This is of course false as Vikki and Jon's falling out was before Jon patched things up and was due to him labelling NAP Misfit as a pedophile.


Nice try Jon... :lit:

45:45 Nasser very naively defends Martina from Vikki's accusations that Martina is grifting, stating that "Martina would have just run off with the money" ignoring the fact the only reason she has recently popped back up in Comicsgate is because she needs more money. Perhaps Comicsgate should have launched a GFM for Cridious to fight Preston for the CG trademark afterall aye Nasser? ;) Nasser also points out that Martina has already fulfilled aspects of the campaign, unaware it was actually Maz who fulfilled the posters and t-shirts himself.

50:40 Soy Rage asks Martina for clarification on whether any of this GFM money will be going towards fulfilling the Lady Alchemy book rather than the lawsuit. Martina denies this but admits that she made a mistake during calculating shipping costs, namely international and "doesn't have the money for shipping." Martina promises that she will ship out of her own funds and will fulfill the book out of her own pocket and that she has "lost money" on this, something which I highly doubt.

53:21 Martina doubles down on Vikki again accusing her of siding with neo-nazi's and blaming her (Martina) the "real victim in all this." I do find it somewhat humorous that Martina is accusing overweight spic's of being neo-nazi's given her choice for a husband.

56:41 Martina claims she was unhappy with the quality of Maz's artwork, when her own evidence proves this is again false.

1:01:03 The topic of shipping comes up again and Martina claims she will get a job, stream everyday, sell stuff and do whatever it takes to fulfill the book which leads me to believe much like Detective Dead that the money is gone. Martina claims shipping is $3.15/book and she charged $7 for shipping on her campaign. Soy Rage then points out that the money for shipping should have been set aside and not used for anything else, but Martina tries to deflect into fighting the lawsuit as a possible reason she is out of money and that "priorities have changed."

1:03:30 A commentator states that "Martina you need 2 do a 1on1 with EVS" which Nasser reads aloud and Martina agrees with.


How about it @FROG are you going to touch this clusterfuck with a ten foot pole? Personally I'd strongly recommend against it, but I admit I would enjoy another stream in which Martina digs her grave deeper. Maybe try and get @VIkkiVerse on there too? ;)

1:05:42 Martina contradicts herself again stating she never was involved with Christopher, despite him being named in initials on the campaign page that apparently she owned and conversed with via email and skype for months. Soon after Well Read User asks if the possibility of refunding everyone exists.


Martina then asks how she can refund everyone when "you've paid an artist $4450, tens of thousands in merch, you've paid taxes already and then the new team." No one on the panel even thinks to question Martina on the "tens of thousands in merch" when again according to her own evidence she was billed $2000 for posters and $600 for stickers.

Those T-Shirts must be really comfortable for costing Martina "tens of thousands" of dollars.

1:12:00 We are treated to Martina sperging the fuck out at Vikki calling her a retard, doubting whether Vikki can do long division and asks if Vikki is collecting disability welfare. I highly recommend watching this segment, congrats Vikki! :lit:

1:13:40 Testefy joins and proceeds to shit all over Martina another high recommend for this segment. :lit:

1:14:50 Jack and Martina maintain that they were "scammed" by the previous artist (Maz) despite earning over 48K for Lady Alchemy and paying him less than 10% of what the campaign earnt.

1:24:00 Martina again lies stating that the emails she received from Chris and Maz that were featured here and emailed back in late December 2019 were released AFTER they appeared on the Dick Show. This is clearly a lie as their appearance on the Dick Show was during late March of 2020 with Doug TenNapel as he was crowdfunding Bigfoot Bill 2.

1:40:32 Nasser is asked by Soy Rage for his assessment on the situation and Nasser brings up his history with Donal as a similar situation. Nasser however doesn't seem to understand that in this situation Maz would be him and Martina would be Donal.

1:45:00 Martina states that not only is this a copyright/trademark issue and mentions that she is also being sued for "severe emotional distress" by Maz in the lawsuit.

TLDR
Martina by her own evidence lied and contradicted herself multiple times throughout the Nasser stream and yet neither @NasserRabadi13 nor @TheCosmicWarrior could pick up on it. This interview was made great from the collective efforts of Vikki, Testefy, Well Read User and Soy Rage who asked legitimate questions only to trigger absurd outbursts and doublespeak for answers. These Maz and Chris individuals clearly are using this lawsuit for some malicious outcome but in all honesty Martina herself comes across just as shady.

Nasser and Jon, your kiwi credentials are hereby revoked until you can learn to ask a fucking question and think critically instead of just bobbing along like a pair of star-struck simps. You seriously let this chick walk all over your platforms, blatantly lying to your viewers so she can milk them out of more money. It's ironic you both simping for the wife of a man, who if ever got the chance would throw your asses out of the UK for being the wrong color, turn around and call some fat Mexican a neo-nazi. :lit:

You're both hereby sentenced to read the entire Alinity thread and the entire Pokimane thread and DM me a 500 word essay on why you never trust e-thots on the fucking internet.

The only question that should have been asked.
I talked about Martina's connection to far-right ideologies and groups that, after the capitol riots are considered extremist. I also talked about how her husband is banned from the US and will never be allowed to enter.

It would shock me if Van Sciver allows her on his show. She royally fucked up her own campaign and if EVS throws her a lifeline it would fly in the face of all the advice and warnings he has given both in posts and on video.
Martina is also casually throwing around the term "neo-nazi" which Ethan has been called many times and helping someone who misuses the term would be hypocritical of him. Martina calls her artist a nazi trying to hurt his career the same way people called EVS a nazi to drive him out of DC comics and try to cancel him on social media.

Let's not forget Martina's close affiliation with white supremacy and the many real instances of her dog whistling to the tiki torch retard crowd.
After Martina went full War Campaign and wrecked herself in a way that can only be described as Mitch Breitweiser tier dumbfuckery without the Walmart fagbux no serious comic creator or streamer is going to stick their neck out for an untrustworthy e-thot that will in all likelihood fuck up again and drag them down with her.

This is a glorious summary. I commend you.

The only thing I would add is that some point near the end of the stream, she mentioned she worked for Rebel Media. As soon as she said that, things began to "click" for me. This is Ezra-tier grift fuckery. I would not give money to anybody who was ever associated with that outfit.

No, not even Lauren Southern.


Also, Well Read's stream concerning this whole shitshow was very good.


I also agree @FROG should not touch this with a barge pole. For one thing, this lawsuit shit hasn't exactly been working out for anybody lately. For another, I think it would make CG look anti-consumer. The ethical thing for a creator to do here would be to refund backers and cut your losses.
I talked about her and rebel media many months ago. Theres regular autism, then there's rebel media schizophrenic high functioning autism while wearing a medallion of fail.

@VIkkiVerse I hope you serve your famous spaghetti at the annual kiwi conspiracy convention. I'll bring the pizza. I know a great place in Marlton that serves extra sausage with every slice.

@FROG after you got fucked by Richard for organizing his gofuckme fundraiser for his lolsuit my friendly advice is to stay away from litigious lolcows. While I understand JDA's lawsuit and I have no doubt he will see it to the end, win or lose, he's paying for it with his own money. Martina is losing her shit and chimping out. If you get involved it will look like you're helping yet another 3 year late crowdfund campaign. Mitch used you to perpetrate a scam. Fool me once right?
 
Also, Well Read's stream concerning this whole shitshow was very good.

Thanks for sharing, I'm watching the Well Read stream now and just noticed this little gem.


So now she's changing perks after the campaign has ended? I'm almost certain that is against Indiegogo's terms of service, sucks to be one of the 51 people who paid probably $47 (inc shipping) for 22 fucking tarot cards. I don't know anything about Wiccan queer shit, but can you even tell someone's future with 22 cards? I checked and most decks have 78 cards in them.

So just to recap.
*Martina attempts to paint her former partners/employee's as anti-Semites and neo-nazis to cancel them, while her own husband is banned from entering the United States for his ties to right-wing extremists.

*She lies about not continuing to use her former artists artwork when she clearly was still selling his t-shirts and poster designs (probably the tarot deck too).

*She hypocritically now has a problem with him tracing photographs once their relationship had ended, but was sending him photographs to presumably trace while he still worked for her.

*She denies Maz or Christopher were ever mentioned on the campaign page, despite that they were by initial and listed as co-creators. She also denies that Maz had any access to the Indiegogo profile, so she herself would've had to list them.

*She claims to not even know who Christopher Speidel is, despite exchanging back and forth emails with him for over a year about the script and hitting him up to join their skype group calls.

*She claims Maz never did any interviews for promoting Lady Alchemy, but were both interviewed on Bounding Into Comics during September 2018. She then further tries to claim that MG isn't Maz, despite MG and Maz are both her former artist, share the same initials and his full name is listed in the lawsuit.

*She admits, despite making close to 50k, she currently doesn't have enough money to ship and fulfil the book and that the campaign was at a loss. She also charged twice the amount of money on domestic shipping $3.15/$7 but messed up international shipping.

*She claims she hated Maz's artwork, when there are multiple messages of her being pleased with it and annoyed he wasn't faster with production.

*She claims she spent "tens of thousands on merch" and can only produce invoices for $2000 worth of posters and $600 worth of sticker decals.

*She lies when she says the emails between her, Maz and Chris were AFTER the Dick Show appearance by the two of them when they were four months earlier.

*And now she is changing perks AFTER the campaign has ended and the money has presumably all been spent.

This has to be the greatest clusterfuck since Cridious and Detective Dead, arguably even worse since it involves a greater amount of money, potential lawsuit and yet another GFM campaign. Martina's performance was a fucking trainwreck but the icing on the cake was honestly Nasser and Jon's reaction to it all.

@TheCosmicWarrior, Jon you were accused of the exact same things that this Maz guy is without any evidence by Warcampaign remember? Here you have a fellow hermano being tarred and feathered by the Queen of Warcampaign and you sit there with your finger up your asshole and remain as silent as the grave.

@NasserRabadi13, you had your campaign Brutus stolen out from under you and to this day have not received any form of compensation. While this Maz individual did receive $4450, you both were shut out of campaigns you were involved with and instead you compare this Maz guy to Donal instead of Martina?

:story:You honestly can't make this shit up!:story:
 
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Nasser and Jon, your kiwi credentials are hereby revoked until you can learn to ask a fucking question and think critically instead of just bobbing along like a pair of star-struck simps
:(
You're both hereby sentenced to read the entire Alinity thread and the entire Pokimane thread and DM me a 500 word essay on why you never trust e-thots on the fucking internet.
I will legit do this.
@NasserRabadi13, you had your campaign Brutus stolen out from under you and to this day have not received any form of compensation. While this Maz individual did receive $4450, you both were shut out of campaigns you were involved with and instead you compare this Maz guy to Donal instead of Martina?
Honestly I didn't know much about the situation, I just heard a little bit about it from part of @TheCosmicWarrior 's stream with her. All I understood (and I think I said this on the stream) was that her artist was trying to sue her for the campaign when he supposedly didn't do the work, and the work he did do was altering "Lady Alchemy" to be about himself and not actually Lady Alchemy.

I wanted to learn a little more about it, and thought this stream would be good for views (and it was my most viewed stream in a while).

Honestly I didn't ask any "hard questions" because I wasn't sure what to ask, and when people in the chat say "SHE LIED WE NEED MORE PROOF" and when I ask "Okay, what should we ask?" they just said "MORE PROOF SHE LIED SHE LIED" I had no idea what more to ask her.

Soy Rage did ask some good questions, and honestly, in one of my recent bag and board streams, I was discussing this stuff with the chat, and I did come to a bit of an understanding how fishy some of the things said were, after thinking about the stream for a bit. Particularly:
Martina claims shipping is $3.15/book and she charged $7 for shipping on her campaign. Soy Rage then points out that the money for shipping should have been set aside and not used for anything else, but Martina tries to deflect into fighting the lawsuit as a possible reason she is out of money and that "priorities have changed."
Martina claims she will get a job, stream everyday, sell stuff and do whatever it takes to fulfill the book
She said on the stream she'd "waitress" if she had to. Why isn't she waitressing now then? How is she making money at this moment, and is she setting any of that aside at the moment for this book? Honestly that was something I didn't think of until later. If you need the money and plan to "waitress" in the future, why not waitress now? And waitresses don't make much in the first place...
Unfortunately this Bounding Into Comics [archive] article disproves Martina once again.
I didn't know about this.
No one on the panel even thinks to question Martina on the "tens of thousands in merch" when again according to her own evidence she was billed $2000 for posters and $600 for stickers
Oof
So now she's changing perks after the campaign has ended? I'm almost certain that is against Indiegogo's terms of service, sucks to be one of the 51 people who paid probably $47 (inc shipping) for 22 fucking tarot cards. I don't know anything about Wiccan queer shit, but can you even tell someone's future with 22 cards? I checked and most decks have 78 cards in them.
Oof pt2
Jack and Martina maintain that they were "scammed" by the previous artist (Maz) despite earning over 48K for Lady Alchemy and paying him less than 10% of what the campaign earnt.
🤔

ANYWAYS I'd be more than willing to do a second stream with her asking some of these questions and/or questions provided by other kiwis, but I'm not sure how likely Martina is to return to my channel. She messaged me yesterday crying that "SOY RAGE IS IN CAHOOTS WITH TESTEFY" and that I "set her up" somehow, then blocked me.
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@Smug Freiza lesson learned. Never trust an e-thot on the internet.
 
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