Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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teriyakiburns said:





I fucking knew it! Whenever government denies they're doing a thing, you can be sure they'll be "considering" it a week later. God dammit.
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Y'all need to learn something former Soviet Union learned through the 20th century and learn it well - whenever the government is saying something, do the opposite of what is the government is saying.

Bureaucracy has outlived itself and it's been going on for 600 years. Never, never, never ever trust the government anymore.
 
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tehpope said:
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Wear the mask forever nigger cattle.

I think we're fucked either way. If people riot, they'll blame everything on the right and clamp down on our rightst more. If nobody does nothing, they'll clamp down on our rights more. Hopefully the left riots and there's no fucking way to pin it on the right.
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Catholic schools in all 50 states opened this fall for in-person learning where the local government officials would allow it. And where they would not, parochial schools fought hard for the right to open. Meanwhile, teachers’ unions have taken the opposite approach. They’ve fought every effort to get kids back in school and continually moved the goalposts, despite the facts, science and the increasingly loud and unified voice of the scientific and medical community arguing that kids belong in school. Where I live, not a single public school has opened — apart from for a minute fraction of students in some grades. Not even for children with the most severe of learning disabilities or other challenges such as extreme food insecurity and homelessness.
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The pandemic is now shining a spotlight on Catholic schools’ genuine commitment to education — to educational quality and educational equality — while public-school systems, under the thumb of the teachers' unions, are returning educational inequality to levels not seen since the days of segregation. Catholic schools exist not just to provide an excellent education that develops the “whole person,” according to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, but to do so for everyone, including “those families who are poor and disadvantaged, especially in poor inner-city neighborhoods and rural areas.” In this moment of crisis, that has meant stepping into the unknown and opening for all students when almost no one else would.
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When the Catholics make you look bad... you know you're fucking up.

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Larry David's Opera Cape said:
Comply the absolute minimum you have to in order to not be grossly inconvenienced
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Face shields are good, but I suggest chiffon masks. You can even get some that are blatantly see through. It drives mask worshippers insane because its technically a "facial covering" but they can still see your face. No ones gonna say shit because we havent gotten to the point where the public is policing what kind of mask, just that something is there. If youre a woman or femboy, they make these hilarious bejeweled masks that are just a loose piece of netting. Ive already seen women losing their minds over these, trying to get manufacturers shut down even.
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Save the Loli said:
There were quarantines during Spanish flu, mostly on remote islands (American Samoa IIRC was totally forbidden to outside travel and there wasn't a single case there). Restrictions too--some World War I victory parades in the US and other gatherings were cancelled or people were told to stay in their cars and houses. I believe a couple of American cities even imposed mask mandates.

The difference is that Spanish flu is blatantly lethal to people of all ages, including healthy young adults. It was obvious there was a pandemic going on and they didn't need to market it to the people. Granted, I have heard the mortality is exaggerated because 1918 - 1919 was a year of global famine (and people were not eating well in the years before because World War I) and it was the last year of World War I and first year of lots of other civil wars across the world which would've fucked up the medical systems. It's probably not an achievement for Spanish flu to have killed so many people when most of them were starving Europeans or Chinese who were more concerned with shooting each other than anything else.
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Its theorized that all the soldiers & support units returning from Europe after WWI may have facilitated the sudden widespread transmission of Spanish Flu to the US.
If that's the case then Spanish Flu managed to rack up a much higher kill count than COVID ever could operating in what was only a taste of the global/international travel conditions that COVID had to work with, and a global population 4.3x smaller than what we have now.
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Another crucial distinction is that governments didn't try to totally eradicate a disease that can't be eradicated, because that concept was rightly deemed ridiculous. But we think we're so technologically advanced that we can eradicate the Chinese virus, and because we think that we can eradicate it that it's somehow wrong to let a single person die.
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This is what blows my mind, the "IFuckingLoveScienze!" crowd doesn't seem to understand that only one virus has been intentionally eradicated was Smallpox; and every virus on the verge of eradication is through vaccines.
Never once has any virus - especially one both as contagious and with an animal reservoir as COVID - been eradicated with lockdowns and mask mandates; yet suddenly that's the winning strategy and you're a "science denier" if you think the journalists and politicians pushing for it are full of shit.

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EDIT - 2 apparently, Rinderpest, a virus that infects cattle was also eliminated; also through vaccination.
 
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El Gose said:
^Big if true.

Found this gem while looking for credible reports of the above:

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get a life?

uh, dude, i think going out and partying is getting a life.

and also, "get over it"?

its been nearly a year since these lockdowns went into full force, and people are starting to have enough with it.
 
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Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Remember when Conservatives were stereotyped as all old boomers? Pepperidge Farm remembers!
Now the working age demographic is the big meanies, apparently.

But seriously, are we still pretending that this virus is deadly to kids?
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Covid isn't even particularly dangerous to the elderly. The Swedish study found that survival rates are in the 90's well up into 80-85 years of age assuming there are no co morbidities like obesity.

Covid mostly kills death fats and people on their deathbeds.
 
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Ruin said:
Covid isn't even particularly dangerous to the elderly. The Swedish study found that survival rates are in the 90's well up into 80-85 years of age assuming there are no co morbidities like obesity.

Covid mostly kills death fats and people on their deathbeds.
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Oh yeah absolutely. But a 5-10% chance of mortality is still a serious condition for those demographics. Its wrong to say COVID kills all old people, its wrong to say COVID kills most old people, its wrong to say COVID is even a 50/50 coinflip chance of death for old people.
But COVID can kill old people.

Deaths in toddlers, infants and young children have been almost entirely non-existent, and the handful that have been reported have all come from exceptionally dubious stances.
Implying COVID kills kids is one of the dumbest fucking takes these people could have.

Oldfats also make up the overwhelming majority of (rare) long-term damage from COVID, which even then is dubious because some of it can be blamed on 1) ventilators and 2) shit they already had that COVID just exacerbated.
Kids do not.
 
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