BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

[Josterman]

Thought Crime’s new video

 

[Sniggez]

Same with Youtuber Jenny Nicholsen, many BreadTubers watch her for no other reason than because she's personal friends with ContraPoints and everyone can tell (but no one ever talks about it) that Nyk is using Jenny as his transition-model (ie, the kind of young child-like woman he is trying to copy through transitioning, it's really creepy actually and I wonder how Jenny herself isn't noticing that this is what Nyk is actually doing).

I actually came across Jenny's content unrelated to breadtube and when I learned she was a personal friend of Contra I was rather surprised. While it is evident from a cursory glance she holds basically identical political opinions to most of breadtube, its seems strange to me that her and Nyk would get along well given their wildly disparate personalities. Contra -- or more accurately, basically all of breadtube -- have a miasmatic aura of gaudyness that seems misplaced when juxtaposed next to Nicholsen's girl next door plainess. Nicholsen, at least judging by her videos, seems mostly content to simply talk about things she enjoys in a way I can't ever really imagine contra doing. I wouldn't be surprised if this was on some level premeditated for viewership's sake (see ShoeOnHead for an example of such), but she doesn't really seem to care about how the public at large perceives her. She talks at length about the intricacies of her time in the Brony fandom, her unrequited love of the Walt Disney corporation and indepth knowledge of their theme park operations as well as her devotion of large cadres of time to watching children's TV shows. All of these are, for most at least, somewhat unappealing traits that she none the less considers a fundamental part of her identity. Contra, on the other hand, spends as much time as possible to build out her appeal, an element cosubstantial and homologous with her identity. She herself states as much in her videos.

While I wouldn't be surprised if Nicholson's body is an image of what what Contra desires to emulate, as you suggested, Nyk is far too narcissistic to actually be able to pull off her same girl next door aesthetic. The whole reason Contra adorns herself with vibrant dresses and everflowing cosmetics is to validate her "femininity." Nicholson, on the other hand, feels no such need despite being actually being born a women, because her sense of self is not so one-dimensional as to be predicated upon one trait -- let alone one that is alien and in need of constant reinforcement. This, I believe, is actually the best illustration of Contra's folly to date. Nicholson doesn't need constant reinforcement of her womanhood not only because she cares about it to a lesser and healthier degree, but because it manifests itself sufficiently through her regular expression. Despite not trying to do so most anyone can pin her as a woman with ease, in large part because she isn't trying overly hard.

Contra instead tries to brute force her way into womanhood, and, quite fittingly for an approach most would deem as a more masculine methodology, fails dramatically. She she spends all day dressed in borderline drag and scares her face up to an outrageous extent to look "womanly," yet all she manages is to make it significantly more obvious to anyone watching that she was initially lacking such a virtue. Funnily enough I don't think it's her Y chromosome or even her male anatomy that is actually preventing her from achieving a sufficient simulacrum of womanhood; In large part it is her own attitude that prevents her from actually becoming a women. At the same time, however, I would argue that wasn't really her goal.

It should be self evident to anyone who has any experience with transgenders that they aren't so much trying to be women as feel like women. Nyk doesn't actually care at all about doing womanly things or having female hobbies, instead she merely wants to convince others of her femininity. By far the only sensible way to view her is through the light of gynophilia. Basically her whole understanding of what makes a woman is carnal. She wants to have a women's body and she clearly cares a great deal about being seen sexually as a female, yet she doesn't seem to have any desires relating to womanhood outside of that. As well, its not like she talks about these subjects solely for the sake of her position as a TRA, one can can evidently be successful in political youtube even with that exact same girl next door persona she is incapable of undertaking (see ShoeOnHead for an example once more.) It seems to be that she more or less simply has no desire to explore womanhood outside of adopting its aesthetic, and the that adoption seems to be at least partially motivated by a sexual fixation with the female form.

Tl;dr: Nyk doesn't actually give a shit about being a women and is only fixated on looking like one, and Jenny Nicholson is a good vehicle by which to illustrate this.

 

[barista wu]

Ried posted this, he wants males to compete with females, in female supports...... lol sure sports is based on biological advantage, but most if not all males have a biological advantage over females, where as only few handful of females have biological advantage over other females.

if sports is nothing but competition on who have the most or best biological advantage shouldn't he be advocating for removing all supports or removing categories of male and female as a whole? cause then the same arguments can be used by cis men, that "if trannies can compete in supports why can't we?" what is the determining factor? that one say he is women to not? e or t levels perhaps?

if supports is nothing but biological advantage, then why advocate for pushing trans women in female sports? wouldn't she want to remove all categories?? she just wants to feel validated as a women....

watch papa guts video on this topic

 

[Montalbane]

BTW Ellis isn't really a BreadTuber but she's considered BreadTube-adjacent because she took Nyk under her wing when he first started out back in 2016, is personally friends with him (Nyk was her bridesmaid at her wedding), and is his script-doctor behind the scenes. Same with Youtuber Jenny Nicholsen, many BreadTubers watch her for no other reason than because she's personal friends with ContraPoints and everyone can tell (but no one ever talks about it) that Nyk is using Jenny as his transition-model (ie, the kind of young child-like woman he is trying to copy through transitioning, it's really creepy actually and I wonder how Jenny herself isn't noticing that this is what Nyk is actually doing). There were a couple of cis women in BreadTube back in 2018-2019 but no one paid them any attention so they eventually peetered out. There was idiot Everyday Feminist who no longer makes videos because of her mental illnesses, there's Mexie who barely makes videos because of her disabilities, there was ContraPoints fangirl Kelly Zahos who was almost immediately cancelled for being too TERFy for BreadTube. You can't be an actual woman in BreadTube and last long because women are aggressively policed and monitored for any wrongthink. Being a woman in BreadTube is like being in a Sharia Law country with your every move and word scrutinized for being potentially haram and bringing shame upon the community. I can't believe these people imagine themselves feminists when this is how they actually behave towards women. They are worse than the most doctrinaire religious fundamentalists. Hell, if they could only drag a woman out into the street and stone her alive for being a TERF they would do so, and Xanderpig would happily Livestream it to his jerkcircle to jack off to.

Mars made a video questioning and lampooning Oliver's hyperbolic combative and plainly misleading coming-out manifesto:

For those of you saying: "Why aren't trans people speaking out against this?", as you can see they do, they just don't have the same reach as BreadTube.

I swear to god if Nyk touches Jenny I am going to commit an hate crime so massive they're going to have to add it to geneva convention.

 

[barista wu]

Xanderhal's gf used to do porn lol,
I found her old twitter and Facebook.

2nd tweet is of chaturbate. no wonder she was the one to perused Alex, no women in her mind would date that very obviously mentally slow person

she is pushing to 30s and need a partner but can't find one due to her porn history, hence she settled for a retard like Alex, who is so painfully dumb

also this was back in 2015, when doing porn was not popular like it is now due to only fans, she must be super desperate for money or just an attention whore, which could make sense as she first did porn and started sating Xander who is public figure.

proof:
in her old twitter twitter she links her instagram which lead to the Instagram she uses currently also she has her old picture on twitter which is clearly her,

also did she has an ED? in her old pictures she looks fat as fuck and now she is skinner, but still ugly, did u looked at her teeth? she looks like a witch

 

[Pointless Pedant]

"Imagine saying sjw as an insult today. Did you get lost on your way to 2012?"
Leon, people like you are proof they still exist and are still out in force, not to mention still the most frustrating type of moral crusader our society is burdened with.

The only reason the wokies hate Tulsi is because she's a left-wing democrat who isn't woke and is willing to point out and criticise the problems in the modern left. IMHO, she'd have been a better president than either Trump or Biden and certainly a better female president than Shillary would've been.

I do think the word SJW is badly dated at this point and gives off the impression of smelly autists on the internet in 2016. Radical left would be a better description and much more likely to be understood by the average person.

 

[NormieCasual]

Ried posted this, he wants males to compete with females, in female supports...... lol sure sports is based on biological advantage, but most if not all males have a biological advantage over females, where as only few handful of females have biological advantage over other females.

if sports is nothing but competition on who have the most or best biological advantage shouldn't he be advocating for removing all supports or removing categories of male and female as a whole? cause then the same arguments can be used by cis men, that "if trannies can compete in supports why can't we?" what is the determining factor? that one say he is women to not? e or t levels perhaps?

if supports is nothing but biological advantage, then why advocate for pushing trans women in female sports? wouldn't she want to remove all categories?? she just wants to feel validated as a women....

watch papa guts video on this topic

I hate how the troons seems to think that it's women's job to fix their suicide rate, and for that reason, troons should always be allowed regardless of what and women have no right of questioning them because like the abusive boyfriends they are, they threaten with suicide.

Also, to not forgetting trans-men. Of course, they have an advantage they're using steroids. This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think FtM should be allowed in male sport as they are on steroids and steroids should ever be allowed in professional sports regardless of reasons.

 

[Montalbane]

I hate how the troons seems to think that it's women's job to fix their suicide rate, and for that reason, troons should always be allowed regardless of what and women have no right of questioning them because like the abusive boyfriends they are, they threaten with suicide.

Also, to not forgetting trans-men. Of course, they have an advantage they're using steroids. This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think FtM should be allowed in male sport as they are on steroids and steroids should ever be allowed in professional sports regardless of reasons.

To be fair transmen's advantage seems marginal at best and easily surpassed by biology and better training.
Of course I agree that using performance enhancing drugs is sad irregardless of reason, I don't care about spectacles and records, I want to see honour and tradition of sports not a guy who runs 1/10 faster than anyone else.

Regarding MTFs there is a article floating around of aussie troglodyte who straight up just said he is a woman and got into the aussie fotball female legue.
The guy is just a male in drag and he is a good 20cm taller than the average female player
Hannah mouncey is the name and he is just sad to look at.
What a loser.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

To be fair transmen's advantage seems marginal at best and easily surpassed by biology and better training.
Of course I agree that using performance enhancing drugs is sad irregardless of reason, I don't care about spectacles and records, I want to see honour and tradition of sports not a guy who runs 1/10 faster than anyone else.

Regarding MTFs there is a article floating around of aussie troglodyte who straight up just said he is a woman and got into the aussie fotball female legue.
The guy is just a male in drag and he is a good 20cm taller than the average female player
Hannah mouncey is the name and he is just sad to look at.
What a loser. View attachment 1919733

It takes about twelve years for hrt to make a male body have similar muscle tissue to a females. Most trans athletes have only been on hrt for a few years at best, of a few months at worst. Or you have liars like that biking fag or the football player you mentioned. All the current research shows transmen dominating unless they early transitioned.

Edit: I realize now they were talking about ftm athletes and not mtf athletes. Disregard I'm a fucking retard.

 

[Cope or Rope]

These people that are called breadtubers are nothing but a bunch of neo-liberal grifters that call everyone who's slightly right of center a National Socialist. I imagine that these people haven't deradicalized anyone.

 

[scathefire]

Why does his face b4 the transition looks photoshopped in

I'm pretty sure that's just what he looks like. He's a distinctly unattractive man.

Will contrapoints or vaush ever debate Althype on race? Reminder that white people were the only people who wanted to free the black people.

Alt Hype isn't huge on debates from what I can tell, but I don't disagree that that would be one of the more interesting youtuber debates were it ever to occur.

While bantering with @scathefire I decided to chronicle everytime Quinton Reviews and Patricia Taxxon have acted lovey dovey for your amusement. Also, Lindsay Ellis gave Quinton the PT treatment and deleted every tweet and thread Q replied to but two.

When Contra and PT used to flirt on twitter, it was a lot less weird because they're two of the most popular breadtubers and had a fanbase that actively shipped them together. With this though, it's not as if they have a massive shared audience that wants them to get together or anything, it's literally just two gross weirdos that no one cares about hitting on each other within the public eye for all to see.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

These people that are called breadtubers are nothing but a bunch of neo-liberal grifters that call everyone who's slightly right of center a National Socialist. I imagine that these people haven't deradicalized anyone.

They've radicalised a few people towards Marxism-troonism, but that's an ideology of limited appeal.

 

[Cope or Rope]

Alt Hype isn't huge on debates from what I can tell, but I don't disagree that that would be one of the more interesting youtuber debates were it ever to occur.

I understand why watching voosh talk with AJW was painful. Voosh has nigger tier intelligence at best and contracope would bring up "As A WAHMEN" while in reality he isn't and bring up black supremacist bullshit. I honestly hate contracope more than voosh i cant wait until these larpers start trying to bash the fash because the only thing that's going to get bashed in is their thick skulls against the sidewalk

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I understand why watching voosh talk with AJW was painful. Voosh has nigger tier intelligence at best and contracope would bring up "As A WAHMEN" while in reality he isn't and bring up black supremacist bullshit. I honestly hate contracope more than voosh i cant wait until these larpers start trying to bash the fash because the only thing that's going to get bashed in is their thick skulls against the sidewalk

You actually think these people are going to start brawling with anyone?

 

[Cope or Rope]

You actually think these people are going to start brawling with anyone?

It would be funny to see!

 

[Pointless Pedant]

It would be funny to see!

Won't happen though. The most we'd see is someone assaulting Vaush and beating him up for being a gross paedo.

 

[Cope or Rope]

Won't happen though. The most we'd see is someone assaulting Vaush and beating him up for being a gross paedo.

That'd be good tbh. Pedos get the rope.

 

[Lord Xenu]

Xanderhal's gf used to do porn lol,
I found her old twitter and Facebook.
proof:
in her old twitter twitter she links her instagram which lead to the Instagram she uses currently also she has her old picture on twitter which is clearly her,

Twitter profile archive
FB profile archive

 

[Burning Urethra]

It takes about twelve years for hrt to make a male body have similar muscle tissue to a females. […] All the current research shows transmen dominating unless they early transitioned.

I think you misunderstood the word transmen here. Female to Male was meant and I haven't heard much talk of them in men's sports.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

I think you misunderstood the word transmen here. Female to Male was meant and I haven't heard much talk of them in men's sports.

My mistake, yes ftm troons in men's sports isn't as grossly disproportionate as mtf troons in women's sports. Again my mistake just use to the normal discussion around mtf ogres playing women's sports.