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this made me realised, i dont think she work by herself doing these stuff in short time, editing, the drawing. at least she has bunch dedicated person or commission it, but the lore itself might be 100% come from her own
I think it's a well known thing that nothing Haachama does in terms of these short animations are actually done by her. People with access to her model (which is free to use under Cover's restrictions regarding fan created content) do shit with it in MMD all the time and share it with her. She takes the stuff and edits the footage together to post on her channel, and provides commentary over the footage.

For a few things I have seen her doing proper credit is given to the MMD video makers.
 
This reminds me, it was brought up before that Coco was denied by management to collab with EN girls, yet Haachama was able to collab with them even after the Taiwan incident. Since Haato wasn't targeted by antis as strongly as Coco, is Cover afraid of antis affecting the EN side? I know there's that screenshot of antis saying not to target the EN branch and Cover is usually reactive instead of proactive about things like this.
I'd assume that Cover is still afraid of the anti-spam going towards EN girls, even though it has been several months after this whole shitstorm started, but
There's also the possibility that Coco's manager just has her on a shorter leash.
With my limited knowledge of the Japanese workplace culture; I believe normally this is the kind of response in Japan for people who rock the boat in this way. They obviously wouldn't want to graduate her not only because she's a big money maker for Cover but because the backlash would've been apocalyptic especially with all the work they've done to branch out into the overseas audiences (with people speculating that this branching out happened mostly due to Coco herself) and with HoloEN just debuting what, like a week and a half before this Incident? They'll put her on the short leash and give her the shitty "basement office" either to break her into graduating "by her own wish" by treating her like shit or she works her way back into freedom through her own blood, sweat, and tears.

Or it could also be that she just doesn't want to collab with EN because she may not have ties to them like she does with the JP girls. I vaguely remember Pikamee said something like "just because HoloEN exists doesn't instantly make us both mutual friends who want to collab with eachother (dayo)" around when HoloEN was announced which could be the scenario here. Either way every ESL vtuber isn't flocking to the girls to collab with them (whether that's due to them not having interest in collabing with them, everyone being an introvert who can't muster the willpower to ask to collab with them, or not wanting to be shit on by antis about "leeching"), just Haato really and that's okay.
 
A couple of people today have been discussing age of the various talents' roommates.

The JP blogs suspect Sora as Aoyama who’s an amateur voice actress in her early to mid 30s. Though based on the original recruiting which does not have minimum age as requirement hence we have early teenagers members like Matsuri (who just cross into her 20s), Shion and Haachama (currently 18 and 19 respectively) Sora should still in her teenager (either same age as Haachama or Matsuri)
The thing about Sora VA is that she mostly active as Sora vs her VA persona no anime, no VN etc.
This makes Sora either in her 30s or late teen to early 20.
Even if Sora is in her 30s and age is an issue then we have Botan who’s convincing rrat said that she was at least 40s due to professional involve in e-sport management for a decade plus. Not to mention some rrat said that Korone is also in her 30s and a single mother with a kid etc.
The Canine Tooth Youtuber nuked his stuff but from the broken English, he seems to have been a Japanese guy who just wanted people to appreciate Miyasuke (pre Hololive Korone) and uploaded some of her lost "face reveal" NND vids. He probably privated or took down everything because of doxxing issues. He mentioned that Miyasuke had quit for a while but then went back to streaming on NND, explaining that she had gotten married but implying that it didn't work out. He had been a fan of hers from the beginning so I'm inclined to believe his information is more likely legit than not. Given what he had said before he took everything down, I'm guessing Korone is in her early-to-mid 30s, although Miyasuke's Twitter pics make her look a lot younger (but that's likely just due to all of the filters and airbrushing that Japanese camera apps do).

What I've seen on JP blogs about Sora makes it look like she's older and more experienced than the majority of the talents. It would make a lot of sense, since so many of the others look up to her as a sort of model idol, especially if she's worked in the industry.

The pics I've seen of Mio make me suspect she's early-to-mid 30s as well. She's built like a huggable mom. Totally makes sense why the whole "Mio Mama" thing is big.

And the pics I've seen of Botan have me thinking she's probably 30s.

For all of Marine being an "old hag" and stuff, she's probably only a little bit older than those talents in their 20s. Late 20s seems to be the consensus. Then again, some Asian women don't age and she could be older. The pics I've seen, though, have me guessing 27 at the absolute youngest, more likely 29 to 31. She's probably younger than Korone and Mio. Then again, as I said about the cameras....

That's one big rat alright
I've heard absolutely nothing about that and I've seen absolutely no evidence for it, so I'm filing it alongside "Miko was out due to childbirth" in the "extremely unlikely" folder. It is possible, if Canine Tooth's descriptions for his (lost) videos were true and she was once married. I think, though, it would be difficult for her to pull off her schedule if she did have a kid. Then again, that kid would have probably been school age at least, when she started (I think she was on "marriage hiatus" somewhere between '09 and '14 but I cannot recall the exact dates). It is a shame that Canine Tooth took all of this stuff down and I'm kicking myself right now for not archiving it. Regardless, though, I still think it is extremely unlikely and we've had received some sort of evidence by this point.

Are you telling me that HoloMILF was real and i did not notice? what the fuck man, dreams come true
After seeing Korone's and Mio's roommates, I was like, "Yeah, I'd hit that." Some dreams do, indeed, come true.

This reminds me, it was brought up before that Coco was denied by management to collab with EN girls, yet Haachama was able to collab with them even after the Taiwan incident. Since Haato wasn't targeted by antis as strongly as Coco, is Cover afraid of antis affecting the EN side? I know there's that screenshot of antis saying not to target the EN branch and Cover is usually reactive instead of proactive about things like this. There's also the possibility that Coco's manager just has her on a shorter leash.
I got this sneaky suspicion that Cover wants to keep JP and EN isolated from one-another. ID and JP have been integrating more but EN is still somewhat isolated. Haachama being told to leave the EN server, for example, gives me this idea that for some reason, Cover is more comfortable with ID-JP collabs being more frequent but not JP-EN collabs. It is possible that there are business reasons for this, licensing reasons, etc. However, I'm not entirely sure. There's always that suspicion that it is standard-issue nihonjin-ron ethnocentrism/xenophobia shit but I think that would end up with ID isolated as well, which isn't happening. It probably has to do with fanbases, licensing, wanting EN to get a strong, firm foundation, and not wanting EN to turn out like CN. The only other Holo branch that is more isolated than EN is Holostars, which probably has more to do with fear of gachikois and stuff than anything else.

I'd assume that Cover is still afraid of the anti-spam going towards EN girls, even though it has been several months after this whole shitstorm started, but

With my limited knowledge of the Japanese workplace culture; I believe normally this is the kind of response in Japan for people who rock the boat in this way. They obviously wouldn't want to graduate her not only because she's a big money maker for Cover but because the backlash would've been apocalyptic especially with all the work they've done to branch out into the overseas audiences (with people speculating that this branching out happened mostly due to Coco herself) and with HoloEN just debuting what, like a week and a half before this Incident? They'll put her on the short leash and give her the shitty "basement office" either to break her into graduating "by her own wish" by treating her like shit or she works her way back into freedom through her own blood, sweat, and tears.
I don't think it is fear of anti-spam but I do think there is some small amount trepidation that a sudden faux-pas could result in a big debacle like CN. It's probably a minor concern, though, and not all that big a deal.

They did try to rein in Coco back in early-to-mid 2020 before they realized she is a big earner. They've taken away 3D model's ability to flip off the camera, for example. However, I think the massive fanbase and income she brings in has convinced them to take a more hand's-off approach. She's one of the reasons that they stopped forcing the whole seiso idol bullshit down all their talents' throats--now it's more a gimmick and the standards are far more relaxed than before.
 
I was wondering about this. Does ID1 have a rather large number of interactions with outsiders compared to others? Mentioning Lyrica again as she apparently did an L4D2 collab together last September, and she'd collabed with each one of them prior.


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Yes. If you wanna know why Pochimaru become Reine mama because Iofi too. HoloID did not give so many strict law than their senpai, this is why they can play with Holostars very chaotic and casually.

Edit : Ame birthday is kinda sad tbh but she's having fun with her fans.
ID1 was always close with Holostars because Cover had some of the guys themselves helping to do security watch when ID1 where all living at a dorm together. Can't manage to dig up evidence, but I recall Iofi talking about this really early on. Kaoru's graduation was really upsetting to her because of that. I would speculate that after breaking the big guy collab taboo, working with just about anybody was no problem. Iofi is also naturally gregarious and has the language knowledge to back it up.

It was cute to see Reine call in for Ame's birthday and actually kinda lose her spaghetti. You can tell ID2 actually really looks up to EN1 from the collabs as well as little things like borrowing some practices like the twitter schedules.

I haven't seen anyone post any of the myholotv girls here, one of them (Mari) just collabed with Riri. Sadly I missed most of the stream but she was reading mallows after and she seems chill.

Marica ch.

MyholoTV ch
The name MyholoTV really puts me the fuck off as seeming like a cheap tie-in, so I never considered checking them out, but I'll give a watch to anyone someone in the thread enjoys.

Can somebody fucking doxx those bugs to the fucking West Taiwan slave pens already? All it takes is just one of these shit-heads playing the long game and getting eventual mod access and we're back to the same clusterfuck a week ago.
I've said before that I don't want to see these guys going to concentration camps and I still don't, but I think the streamer restrictions last fall were a final warning and the guys continuing to do this shit are kinda setting themselves up for cause and effect. When the CCP says, "Fuck around, see what happens," what happens is going to involve gross human rights violations, so maybe think twice?
 
Know simp Mamaloni going full Macross Frontier today

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But this is cover they are just going to get a slightly modified version of the others idol skin and call it a day
 
Know simp Mamaloni going full Macross Frontier today

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But this is cover they are just going to get a slightly modified version of the others idol skin and call it a day
Aaand Kiara as always reply her. She didn't stop to stop people to hardcore simping her and Takamori isn't it?

Edit : Hey look. D E E P L O R E.
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World DomINAtion when?
 
Aaand Kiara as always reply her. She didn't stop to stop people to hardcore simping her isn't it?
Nope, actually i noticed it because it appeared on my Hololive list where she retweeted it, still Calli design is cool except the crown i dont know what that crown is doing there
 
Nope, actually i noticed it because it appeared on my Hololive list where she retweeted it, still Calli design is cool except the crown i dont know what that crown is doing there
I just remember they look like Bang Dream character for a moment, especially Calli she look like Yukina.
 
ID1 was always close with Holostars because Cover had some of the guys themselves helping to do security watch when ID1 where all living at a dorm together. Can't manage to dig up evidence, but I recall Iofi talking about this really early on. Kaoru's graduation was really upsetting to her because of that. I would speculate that after breaking the big guy collab taboo, working with just about anybody was no problem. Iofi is also naturally gregarious and has the language knowledge to back it up.

Does/did ID1 live in Japan? I don’t know how any of the Holostars would be working security for their dorm otherwise, but I thought they actually lived in Indonesia
 
But hopefully, she gets some English mods too, though I think that Coco's chat is surprisingly JP dominant, even more so than a lot of other JP girls so we'll see.
As much as we might shit on American women and lionize 'Asian femininity' in the west (at least in certain circles), there's a pretty significant amount of Japanese men who really hate how annoyingly passive and viciously indirect Japanese women often are and probably find Coco's frankness refreshing. I think a lot of the HoloEN girls have very strong JP followings for similar reasons and not just the cutesy designs.

Grass is always greener, I guess.
 
I feel like management wanted to avoid drama among mods.
Probably that, and the fact that moderating Coco's chat is quite exhausting. You have to watch the chat all the time and ban hammer the message as they come. Too slow and it appear on screen and it's all meaningless. The fact that the dragon done all this by herself while streaming is something.
Or it could also be that she just doesn't want to collab with EN because she may not have ties to them like she does with the JP girls.
No, she said many time that she ask for collab with EN girl, but there is no respond from the management side. I don't really know their reason, but if there is one, it isn't coming from the talents. Mori said Coco is the first holomem she come to respect and look up to. Coco said Mori is so cool and want to collab with. Gura sing for Coco during the peak bugmen incident. I don't think there are any noteworthy issue between them.
It could just be that with the spam going around and Coco's trying new way to combat them, management just don't want to risk more issue. For example, bugmen spam EN Chat who collab with Coco and the twittards go up in flame asking for the bombing of Beijing.
 
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I feel like Senzawa's popularity is a bit overstated, at least in a streaming sense. She only streamed about 2 times a month, and when she did I don't think she garnered that many more viewers than Sachiowo.
Yeah, senzawa the Youtube singer who made shitpost-y songs was popular, senzawa the Twitch streamer wasn't really any more popular than any other random Twitch streamer. Not helped by the fact that she was fairly random in when she'd stream.
 
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