shoe0nhead thread derailment

[Bad Take Crucifier]

This shit actually happened and went on for months and months and I was party to a lot of it. Im not saying that makes it "Right" but I understand it. The flesh is weak and a person's patience is finite.

I hate people who take this stance as much as I hate people who try to justify violent lootings because "teh looters felt bad and just reached teh breaking point."

No, these people are all adults and know better. All abuse and criminality is abuse and criminality, and saying you "get it" when someone you like does the crime? It just makes you look like a massive edgy retard. Either all of it is bad, or you are passively admitting to being a hypocrite when you think it semantically benefits you.

 

[The best and greatest]

I hate people who take this stance as much as I hate people who try to justify violent lootings because "teh looters felt bad and just reached teh breaking point."

Actually Im the one being consistent since I think people who act ignorant crazy and violent should be set straight. Woman or not. Rioter or not. Being a woman does not confer you a special privilege to act like a cunt and throw hands around at sleeping people cause you're drugged out of your mind.

At least in this case the guy's actions follow as a logical consequence of her provocations. She cant say the same because she's the one starting shit.

All abuse and criminality is abuse and criminality, and saying you "get it" when someone you like does the crime? It just makes you look like a massive edgy retard. Either all of it is bad or you are a hypocrite.

All I get from this is you like to virtue signal your own chivalric sense of honor and also you dont understand the concept of a "Mitigating circumstance" very well. Ironically in refusing to consider the other party's culpability you rob them of their agency and the only reason you'd do so is because you perceive the woman to be weaker, when you actually dont know that to be true, because you werent there

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

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Not sure what woman was hitting you, big man. But you should probably go to the cops instead of making accusations into the void, on the internet. And I have bad news for you about how "hitting batshit crazy women" actually works out in DV court.

 

[The best and greatest]

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Not sure what woman was hitting you, big man. But you should probably go to the cops instead of making accusations into the void, on the internet.

You actually think this story is about me? Its not just to clarify.

Also if you think hitting even a batshit crazy woman is a good idea to "set her straight", I have bad news for you about how that actually plays out in court...

Better than just maliciously beating on a woman out of the blue for no discernable reason. I may not be a legal person but I know enough to know that courts arent just inflexible if-then logic circuits. Personal discernment does play into charges, verdicts, and sentencing.

Which again isnt even to say that the guy didnt do something wrong(Legally or morally). Just that his choices even if they could be better are understandable given the circumstances they occured under and arent necessarily just indicative of his rage problems (Even if he does in fact have rage problems.) We arent all natural born buddhist monks who are impervious to protracted mental and emotional duress.

 

[GentlemanRetard]

Ah yes, my favorite topic regarding D-list internet celebrities. The nuances of woman beating

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Ah yes, my favorite topic regarding D-list internet celebrities. The nuances of woman beating

"bro it's actually justified if she's being a huge bitch"

Since this isn't related to shoe0nhead, just want to point out that the actual thread for this is here

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/mgtow-general.68752/

 

[draggs]

Fighting the good fight on the internet about how sometimes all the time it is kinda sorta totally justified to beat a woman is not going to accomplish several things:

1. It will not get you a woman to beat
2. It will not prevent you from getting arrested for beating a woman
3. It will not prevent the bad fee fees that result in you beating a woman

And many many more

 

[StarkRavingMad]

>get catfished by some /pol/ neckbeard
>your nudes get leaked
>now your ex boyfriend is posting how his current gf saved hin from depression while he was dating you

ouchies


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This is pretty much unrecognizable from the Armoured Skeptic the internet has known for the past 5-6 years. He never talked about Shoe this way. He seems to be really happy right now. Good for him. Hopefully he's grown up from flirting with e-thots and giving out unnecessary details about his sex life for the entire internet to see.

Meanwhile, Shoe posts a video about Valentine's Day and how it's a "Hallmark Holiday manufactured by evil capitalists" and such.

How to Spot a Jealous and Bitter Bitch 101: When they shit on Valentine's Day and make fun of anyone who celebrates it. People who do this are essentially waving a big red flag that they're out to make everyone around them miserable.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Meanwhile, Shoe posts a video about Valentine's Day and how it's a "Hallmark Holiday manufactured by evil capitalists" and such.

How to Spot a Jealous and Bitter Bitch 101: When they shit on Valentine's Day and make fun of anyone who celebrates it. People who do this are essentially waving a big red flag that they're out to make everyone around them miserable.

But she's mostly right-- the holiday is an excuse manufactured by capitalist interests to demand that your SO spend money on you, and Americans don't even have concepts like obligation chocolate or White Day, so after big business, it's largely the woman that benefits in an ultimately unbalanced dynamic that gets people to ignore that their SO is already giving them the ultimate gift: their time. Something they can't bidirectionally trade for with money or anything else, and a limited quantity dependent on a kghillion factors mostly out of their control or even knowledge.

The only way I'll go out of my way to not rib you for celebrating the day is if you tell me that you celebrated by going to church.

 

[9263900263]

But she's mostly right-- the holiday is an excuse manufactured by capitalist interests to demand that your SO spend money on you, and Americans don't even have concepts like obligation chocolate or White Day, so after big business, it's largely the woman that benefits in an ultimately unbalanced dynamic that gets people to ignore that their SO is already giving them the ultimate gift: their time. Something they can't bidirectionally trade for with money or anything else, and a limited quantity dependent on a kghillion factors mostly out of their control or even knowledge.

The only way I'll go out of my way to not rib you for celebrating the day is if you tell me that you celebrated by going to church.

I give you my time, superior strength and interesting personality. You give me a blowjob or let me fuck you.

The oldest trade humanity has ever agreed to and it's been pretty successful as long as it's held up.

 

[High Tea]

But she's mostly right-- the holiday is an excuse manufactured by capitalist interests to demand that your SO spend money on you, and Americans don't even have concepts like obligation chocolate or White Day, so after big business, it's largely the woman that benefits in an ultimately unbalanced dynamic that gets people to ignore that their SO is already giving them the ultimate gift: their time. Something they can't bidirectionally trade for with money or anything else, and a limited quantity dependent on a kghillion factors mostly out of their control or even knowledge.

The only way I'll go out of my way to not rib you for celebrating the day is if you tell me that you celebrated by going to church.

It is manufactured, but it is also an indicator if a guy is into you or not. If they do absolutely nothing, it tells you they don't care - even when society and seemingly every company is creating products to help you show that you do. It might not be right, but if a guy doesn't even get you a card or a cup of coffee, it makes it seem like they aren't into you.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I give you my time, superior strength and interesting personality. You give me a blowjob or let me fuck you.

The oldest trade humanity has ever agreed to and it's been pretty successful as long as it's held up.

The trade used to be "I'll give you my time, protection, and entertainment if you help me make babies". Then we warmed up to the idea of marrying out of emotions rather than necessity or family arrangement, and with that slowly came the idea of "I'll give you a preview of my ability to provide, protect, and entertain and hopefully you'll consider the prospect of helping me make babies".

Now, more people don't want to have babies, so these days the trade often looks more like "I'll give you my time, protection, and entertainment if you help me get off and maybe you'll consider helping me do so at regular intervals". Alternatively, it ends up looking like "I WILL GIVE YOU THE WORLD FREE OF CHARGE IF YOU HELP ME FEEL SLIGHTLY LESS LONELY".

It is manufactured, but it is also an indicator if a guy is into you or not. If they do absolutely nothing, it tells you they don't care

Maybe if they do fuck all the other 364 days of the year, but if that's the case, were you ever going out to begin with?

 

[High Tea]

The trade used to be "I'll give you my time, protection, and entertainment if you help me make babies". Then we warmed up to the idea of marrying out of emotions rather than necessity or family arrangement, and with that slowly came the idea of "I'll give you a preview of my ability to provide, protect, and entertain and hopefully you'll consider the prospect of helping me make babies".

Now, more people don't want to have babies, so these days the trade often looks more like "I'll give you my time, protection, and entertainment if you help me get off and maybe you'll consider helping me do so at regular intervals". Alternatively, it ends up looking like "I WILL GIVE YOU THE WORLD FREE OF CHARGE IF YOU HELP ME FEEL SLIGHTLY LESS LONELY".


Maybe if they do fuck all the other 364 days of the year, but if that's the case, were you ever going out to begin with?

Harsh, but fair question. The problem is everyone around doing something and if your partner does nothing, it makes you feel self conscious, that your partner thinks you aren't even worth societal obligations. That may be stupid, but with your examples of providing, those whose partners do something for events like Valentine's Day, shows they will go the extra mile to make you happy.

 

[9263900263]

It is manufactured, but it is also an indicator if a guy is into you or not. If they do absolutely nothing, it tells you they don't care - even when society and seemingly every company is creating products to help you show that you do. It might not be right, but if a guy doesn't even get you a card or a cup of coffee, it makes it seem like they aren't into you.

Here you see the females trap laid out leading to commercial profits from the male's wallet. He doesn't give a fuck, he has no reason to give a fuck yet she demands a gift any way. He buys her a gift not because he cares (he doesn't) but because she expects it. Corps make mega bucks, house gets cluttered with more junk and the male wishes he had spent that money on something useful like a shovel to beg the nagging bitch with instead.

Good women don't care about valentines day. Relationships are personal and you should have special days laid out for yourselves.

 

[High Tea]

Here you see the females trap laid out leading to commercial profits from the male's wallet. He doesn't give a fuck, he has no reason to give a fuck yet she demands a gift any way. He buys her a gift not because he cares (he doesn't) but because she expects it. Corps make mega bucks, house gets cluttered with more junk and the male wishes he had spent that money on something useful like a shovel to beg the nagging bitch with instead.

Good women don't care about valentines day. Relationships are personal and you should have special days laid out for yourselves.

I never said you had to buy anything. You can make a card or bring her breakfast in bed. Some gesture that is out of the ordinary on Valentine's Day is what I'm talking about. When it's in your face and you don't do anything, that is what I mean by showing you don't care.

And if good women don't care about Valentine's Day, then there are very few good women.

 

[idontcaredoyou]

honestly shitting on valentines is lame yeah. like you don't have to buy shit you can just make cookies with each other or something.

just looking to fill her pain and emptiness with the socialist grift i suppose.

 

[9263900263]

I never said you had to buy anything. You can make a card or bring her breakfast in bed. Some gesture that is out of the ordinary on Valentine's Day is what I'm talking about. When it's in your face and you don't do anything, that is what I mean by showing you don't care.

And if good women don't care about Valentine's Day, then there are very few good women.

You genuinely sum up why men don't understand women and find them incredibly annoying. When it's in your face and you don't give a shit about it then it doesn't matter how hard they try to force it on you. It's not important, men don't give a shit and only do it to stop you nagging them. You are proxy marketing for corporations and it's annoying as fuck.

There are very few good women. It's difficult being a good woman when you have mega corps and harpies screeching "He didn't buy you something on THIS DAY!? He doesn't care!" when he's paying for your life style and raising kids together with you. Good women don't need set gifts on set days because of peer pressure. They get to feel appreciated and love in many different ways on many different days. None of them being due to peer pressure and corporate greed.

 

[idontcaredoyou]

You genuinely sum up why men don't understand women and find them incredibly annoying. When it's in your face and you don't give a shit about it then it doesn't matter how hard they try to force it on you. It's not important, men don't give a shit and only do it to stop you nagging them. You are proxy marketing for corporations and it's annoying as fuck.

There are very few good women. It's difficult being a good woman when you have mega corps and harpies screeching "He didn't buy you something on THIS DAY!? He doesn't care!" when he's paying for your life style and raising kids together with you. Good women don't need set gifts on set days because of peer pressure. They get to feel appreciated and love in many different ways on many different days. None of them being due to peer pressure and corporate greed.

bro flowers like $5. break and bake cookies are $2. chill. like damn giving head is 15 min of your time if you wanna go that route. if that's too much for a dude then how is he even affording children and shit. like damn son, you don't need a gf, you need to get your own damn life together if that's your situation.

who the fuck wants to be that person like, "i mean yah my bf said valentines is for mega corps and harpies." lmfao like... nobody wants to admit that they shacked up with an autistic loser.

 

[9263900263]

bro flowers like $5. break and bake cookies are $2. chill. like damn giving head is 15 min of your time if you wanna go that route. if that's too much for a dude then how is he even affording children and shit. like damn son, you don't need a gf, you need to get your own damn life together if that's your situation.

who the fuck wants to be that person like, "i mean yah my bf said valentines is for mega corps and harpies." lmfao like... nobody wants to admit that they shacked up with an autistic loser.

Way to miss the forest for the trees. No one wants to date the dumb harpies screeching over corporate holidays. Real women celebrate their favorite Saints day and Jesus's birthday, nothing else.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Harsh, but fair question. The problem is everyone around doing something and if your partner does nothing, it makes you feel self conscious, that your partner thinks you aren't even worth societal obligations.

At the point that it begins to matter that he didn't do anything special for Valentine's Day, it's either become clear that your depth of understanding of love is egregiously shallow such that you're fundamentally unable to comprehend the gravity of his routine sacrifices for your sake, or you're persisting in a loveless relationship because he actually doesn't do anything for your sake-- if it's the latter that's the case, then you have much larger problems than the fact that he doesn't care about some put-on social obligation that doesn't have to matter if you don't make it matter.

You can make a card or bring her breakfast in bed. Some gesture that is out of the ordinary on Valentine's Day is what I'm talking about. When it's in your face and you don't do anything, that is what I mean by showing you don't care.

bro flowers like $5. break and bake cookies are $2. chill. like damn giving head is 15 min of your time if you wanna go that route.

When you break it down like that, you only reinforce his point-- it's hardly about the sentiment or anything of true value, and much more about avoiding a nagging from foolish people that you may indeed love but have been duped by businessmen so severely that they wouldn't recognize love if it stared them dead in the eyes 365 days in a year.

Real women celebrate their favorite Saints day and Jesus's birthday, nothing else.

...technically, the real women are also screeching about corporate holidays, because we're dealing with real women all around, regardless of how wise or foolish they may be.

I have no doubt June is whinging about Valentine's Day because she's lonely and has been reduced to reverse simping for people like Vaush, but you know what they say about broken clocks.