Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[Kari Kamiya]

I have to wonder if his parents know about this, I'm not sure about how conservative they are in their Mormonism. And I am not sure how Mormons view gays and trannies.

But I have to wonder if it's bad, how quickly would they have cut contact with Russ after tolerating how much of a perverted gremlin he is for so long on top of trading handjobs for car rides, ass sex for job opportunity and now bareback gay sex for pleasure.

Honestly, him being in the closet would be the least of Russell's problems if it wasn't for him being a sex pest since he has the agency to live his own life however he chooses, but he doesn't have the right to intrude on others' agencies. His parents might just see it on a surface-level and may not be happy to know their son has gone off the path, but deep down they may still love him and want him to come back to them. Save for denying the Holy Ghost with all your heart (it's the equivalent of saying the sun's not shining when you're standing in the middle of an empty field at noonday), the church believes no sin can't be atoned for, some sins are just harder to repent for than others. Russ would just have to swallow his pride and show real godly sorrow for what he has done in order to crawl back for forgiveness, but he seems set in his ways in this life. Who knows what the next life has in store for him.

Him going after guys is just a natural progression of being addicted to the power of sex. He wants to be the alpha male by dominating all the alpha Chads he can, but he's still too much of a cowardly weasel to really approach them on it and go through with it. Women being the weaker sex is just easier, but he's much more cowardly since he's doing it through the Internet. It's safer since the women don't have to constantly be worried he's going to show up in person on their doorstep, but it's no less obnoxious.

Spoiler: Separate answer for the gays and trannies question

As for the view on gays and transfolk, Jesus said "Come follow me" to everyone, and the church has always been open about that. Changes in lifestyle is harder for some than for others, but the prophets have recognized gay members may not ever be attracted the opposite sex in their lifetime (attraction is not the sin, it's the act--sexual sins are equal to everyone regardless of chemistry), so they're asked to live celibate lives and put their trust in the Lord. Adopted children of gay couples, however, aren't allowed to be baptized until they're 18 if they so choose, but they're all still welcome to attend church meetings and activities, and take missionary lessons.

While everyone is still encouraged to go to church, I'm honestly unsure if post-op transpeople (who weren't already members before post-op) are allowed baptism due to the church's belief of our bodies being a temple, God's gift to mankind. Bodily mutilations of any kind that's not for life-saving medical reasons are frowned upon, and it's been warned for decades that sex changes are to be avoided. "God will not be mocked", so said President Spender W. Kimball in 1974. Since the spirit remains unchanged, if things are irreversible in mortality, God will have to judge in the next life since it's not really anyone else's call to make. Members are still asked to be kind to everyone regardless, though, and treat everyone equally. With the rise of children being put through this hell, I want to say those kids who grow up(? ;_; ) will not be judged for that because that's all on their parents' shoulders according to "The Family: A Proclamation to the World", but I don't know how the church itself approaches this.

On an unrelated but interesting note, also in 1974, an assistant to the Twelve Apostles (didn't know that was a thing lol) gave a talk about how boys need men. Literally two generations later, and look where the anti-patriarchy has taken us.

 

[MelloYello]

The court is not ruling for Russ on technical issues so they can dismiss a meritless case (if so, he would have gotten his Taylor cases through). They already had the chance to dismiss because he's filing as a pauper and they chose not to. This is Vic levels of denialism- "We're winning by losing!"

You're missing my point. What I meant is a motion to dismiss on Null's behalf would likely be granted, simply for lack of jurisdiction. Plus, Russell's own filings give away that this is yet again a frivolous lawsuit/SLAPP.

I'm aware that the court could've dismissed the suit sua sponte. They're not obligated to do so, thus concluding the case may have merit, solely on the fact that it hasn't been dismissed yet, would be quite a stretch.

 

[The Great Citracett]

I imagine she's posting it for the same reason the Vegas page is posting weather from Chicago, dingus.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

You're missing my point. What I meant is a motion to dismiss on Null's behalf would likely be granted, simply for lack of jurisdiction. Plus, Russell's own filings give away that this is yet again a frivolous lawsuit/SLAPP.

I'm aware that the court could've dismissed the suit sua sponte. They're not obligated to do so, thus concluding the case may have merit, solely on the fact that it hasn't been dismissed yet, would be quite a stretch.

Yes I think I did misunderstand your point- and I don't think the case is meritorious just because the court didn't dismiss it outright.

However, I do think that the routine copyright infringement claim buried in the nonsense of his filings will prompt the court to let him correct errors and proceed to actual arguments and is unlikely to be tossed easily.

 

[Constellationzero]

has he always looked like a slightly melted wax doll or is this new for him?
great haircut as well

He has always looked like he walked straight of the set of Waxworks 1988. His hygiene is just as atrocious as it ever was.

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

He has always looked like he walked straight of the set of Waxworks 1988. His hygiene is just as atrocious as it ever was.

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

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The slight head tilt in the 2nd pic down gets me every time; it just gives the picture this air of confusion....You can almost here the "Duuuuuuuuh....."

 

[Cilleystring]

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

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I mentioned a couple weeks ago there were probably guys who liked hanging around Russ for the ridiculous things he said. This dude is probably one of them

 

[The Un-Clit]

He has always looked like he walked straight of the set of Waxworks 1988. His hygiene is just as atrocious as it ever was.

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

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At least in the very first pic where he is young he's washed his damn hair. (Probably had to have his parent's force him tho) But for the rest: considering his 'discerning' eye for 9s and 10s, why the fuck does he rate himself the same, except for his ratmouth? Surely he cannot look in the mirror and see an analogue of Matt the Manwhore or any of the other 'hot studs' on that rent.man page?

Dildo Saggins here has even worse mirror-vision then CWC himself when what's really facing him in the mirror is scrunched up manlet with an oily mop that could grease a dozen range-tops in a Vegas hotel kitchen, squinty filmy serial-killer eyes, the hobo-beard running everywhere including up his nose and into the top of his famous Moebius-becursed defective maw, the ONLY think he thinks is holding him back from all the hot poon (and cock) a studmuffin like him deserves, if everyone didn't hate the disabled, or hate nice guys.

Saddest part is, there are so many men with much worse deformities and with Moebius Syndrome every bit as severe or worse, who have wonderful relationships with partners FAR better looking then themselves because they #1 take an HONEST effort with appearance and #2 don't exude desperation, want and naked envy from every pore of their being so strongly it comes through on camera, and most important #3 are good, kind and loving people regardless of how badly they failed the genetic lottery or God kicked them in the nuts before birth or whatever, and don't let it define them.

He dosen't have to be this way, but he chooses to. And things won't get better for him until he wakes the fuck up. Which will most likely be never, because that is one of the core definitions of being a lolcow: rejecting all good advice and refusing to change behaviour for the better.

This has all been said many many times on this thread before now (look at the size of the motherfucker!) but it's sometimes good to re-establish these things for the new users coming upon Russhole's thread from the front page without checking the OP.

 

[Uncle Gordon]

I'm obviously not a lawyer, so this is a genuine question based on a tenuous grasp of due process:

If Null the individual has indeed been serviced improperly, would acknowledging it at all, e.g., objecting in some fashion to the ruling, constitute some kind of receipt of the service?

I could be way off base but I always thought that the practical purpose of service was to ensure that an entity had been adequately notified of a legal action that pertains to them.

No, entering a response doesn't waive service unless you also file an acceptance or waiver of service as well. I'm surprised the motion was granted, I haven't looked back but if the 120 days to serve was already up or getting close I know that is something Court Clerks love: just wait the time and dismiss the suit themselves for lack of service. Not their problem if you can't follow process. One less case on the books.

 

[AbraCadaver]

He has always looked like he walked straight of the set of Waxworks 1988. His hygiene is just as atrocious as it ever was.

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

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Fuck sake, Russ actually has NICE HAIR in that first pic! Normal-looking human hair! So why does he soak it in oils or grease or whatever the fuck is going on in all his recent pictures?

He gets so mad when people mistake him for a mentally disabled man, yet he clearly LOOKS like one simply because he looks like he doesn’t understand being clean.

He’s got that “my handler forces me into the bath once a week and I flail and screech autistically the whole time” personal hygiene look. He’s nasty and oily always. Even just a daily shower would improve his looks instantly. Fluffing up his clean hair instead of matting it down with hair products and scalp oil would also help hide the weird peanut shape of his head.

 

[MelloYello]

However, I do think that the routine copyright infringement claim buried in the nonsense of his filings will prompt the court to let him correct errors and proceed to actual arguments and is unlikely to be tossed easily.

Eh, I don't know. I'd agree the copyright claims aren't outright frivolous, remains to be determined by court whether it's fair use.
However, he outright states in his filings that he wants Kiwifarms to be shut down. Any copyright claims he may have are incidental to the fact that he wants the courts to censor a website over his hurt feelings. He's practically telling the court that this is frivolous, just like he flat out stated that he sued Taylor Swift to get her attention. He just can't help it..

In any case, 28 U.S.C. § 1400 is really going to be a problem, given that he inexplicably keeps filing his lolsuits in Utah, rather than the proper venue.

 

[LiveFromNS]

And you're still wrong, you smug retard. Lolcow LLC may be served via email. Greer tried to serve Null, personally, who is legally distinct from Lolcow LLC.
That's one purpose of having an LLC in the first place.

Consider this: Being insisent and stupid isn't a good combination...

As an alternative, sure. But since we are arguing the motion was granted improperly, then Lolcow LLC would have to be served under Rule 4 (h) (b). Rule 4 (h) (b) does not allow emails

Just to reiterate, Lolcow LLC is NOT a party to Russell's proceeding. Thus there is no need to serve that entity as they are not being sued. He is suing Josh. And a website! LOL

Why I thought that he would never get substituted service is due to the fact that he did not demonstrate that he undertook ALL reasonable efforts to effect service.

Slightly O/T but relevant-Perhaps it is different in US, but from the rules in my jurisdiction (see below, particularly 31.10(2)), he would NOT have been granted that order. Russ did none of these things nor did he file an affidavit indicating that he made any of those efforts. That's why, from my experience, it is somewhat shocking he is being allowed to effect substituted service.

I know from when I made a motion for sub service years ago, the judge grilled on what efforts were made and when he was finally convinced that all reasonable efforts were made (see 31.10(2)), he grudgingly issued an order instructing that a notice had to be run in the local newspaper once a week for three weeks. It ended up costing a couple K with the costs to publish and man hours drafting the documents and appearing at the motion. And that doesn't include the costs and expenses to make "all reasonable efforts" before it was necessary to make the sub service motion in the first place! I am pretty sure I tried to get sub service on another occasion and the order was denied as "not all reasonable efforts" were undertaken to serve the party.

Maybe the fucking judge is related to someone who has a thread on here or something, I don't know but, in my view, shitty decision and Russ got fucking lucky.

31.10 Order for substituted method of giving notice of proceeding
(1) A judge may order a substituted method of notification if the judge is satisfied that the party cannot be located, the party is evading service, or justice requires a substituted method for another reason.
(2) The following are examples of efforts to locate a party that, if proved, may establish that an order for substitute notification is to be granted on the basis that the party cannot be located:
(a) making inquiries of persons at the other party’s places of recent residence or work;
(b) making inquiries of acquaintances of the other party;
(c) searching the records of the party who makes the motion to locate information about recent residences, places of work, and acquaintances of the party to be notified;
(d) engaging a trace service;
(e) performing searches on the internet;
(f) searching records of other actions against the party to be notified;
(g) engaging the services of a local process server, lawyer, detective, or other person to advise on locating a party who resides in an unfamiliar place.
(3) The following are examples of evidence that may establish that an order for substitute notification is to be granted on the basis that the party is evading service:
(a) evidence of places the party is likely to be found, such as a place of residence or work, and efforts to locate the party;
(b) evidence the party is likely at a place when service is attempted;
(c) attempts to effect service at the party’s likely place of residence, place of work, or otherwise;
(d) efforts to identify persons in communication with the party;
(e) attempts to communicate with acquaintances to arrange personal service.
(4) An order for substitute notification made on the basis that the party cannot be located may include terms for advertising, service of a certified copy of the order and the originating document on a person who might communicate with the party, delivery or mailing of the order and document to a place where it may be received by the party, and any other terms for bringing the proceeding to the notice of the party.
(5) An order for substitute notification made on the basis that the party is evading service may contain terms for notification that assume the evading party will receive a certified copy of the order and the originating document left for the party with persons and at places associated with the party.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Also Russell Greer sucks cock lol

He can't suck dick. Faggot can't close his damn mouth. Unless he's really good at suppressing that gag-reflex and throats the guy.

But even then, how desperate for sex do you have to be to have Ratmouth suck you off?

 

[SamTheEagle]

He can't suck dick. Faggot can't close his damn mouth. Unless he's really good at suppressing that gag-reflex and throats the guy.

"I sucked him in a way that helped with my disability."

 

[Viridian]

Oh my god, I haven’t checked the thread for a long time and here we are, full on gay Russ. Thank you to Matt Anthony for posting. You’ve potentially saved some other sex workers from a bad time.

I used to follow him quite closely till he got boring, and he always did set my gaydar off. I think I even talked about it here a few times. The type of women he goes for didn’t ring true for me with him, it was always as though he was going for women he thought he should be attracted to, rather than being actually attracted to them. Plus him insisting on having dates was always about him wanting other guys to see him with what he assumed was the women they were attracted to.

As I said before, my opinion is that Russhole is narcsexual, if anything. That said, I can definitely agree that he considers being seen in public with an attractive women something that gave him more "status" than being with an attractive man. A lot of it probably goes back to his mommy/sister issues: "See Mom/Sis, other women accept me!" Also the antiquated but still socially viable idea that a man is a "stud" by sleeping with lots of women, as well as him living up to the social standards of Mormonism.

Its interesting to see how he responds to women v men though isn’t it? If Matt was a woman she’d have had so much abuse and stalking behaviour, maybe even a lawsuit instigated. He thinks women are beneath him and men are his equals.

I agree with this as well. His treatment of women is always derogatory in some way. Either he's abusing/threatening/slandering them, or he's trying to tell them what they're allowed to do and who they're allowed to be with. He absolutely sees women as not only inferior to him, but basically as sex vending machines with one hole for flowers and the other for cock. Whereas with men--likely since he is one and therefore can't cast the gender as sub-human--he seeks out their approval.

Well, if they're white at least. He has no equal regard for "saggy pants thugs" because Russhole is an actual racist. I wouldn't be surprised if his tastes towards male sex workers lean towards people of color, because he's demonstrated he's threatened by non-white men and therefore would enjoy having theoretical power over them.

Some gay/bi guys are raging misogynists because they resent women for being able to attract almost any man, whereas they can only attract men like them. I’m quite convinced now that he will snap one day and really hurt a woman. I know he’s a pathetic wee rat, but even a guy like that is dangerous with a knife or a gun.

Another agree rating for you. I don't think he's quite there yet in his rage, but as he gets older he will become more and more desperate and angry at women for denying him. Sure, he's a manlet with no muscle tone, but you don't need a lot of strength to shoot someone, or even stab someone if you get up close and catch them by surprise.

If he is ever smart enough to figure out that incels just need to put on a pair of cat ears and knee high socks to get full scale societal support to hate and openly abuse the women they can’t have then he’ll join the tranny train, I’m excited to see him on the terf battlefield.

I don't think Russhole is a candidate for going trans. He hates and denigrates women too much to ever want to be one. He'll just keep pulling the "you only reject me because I'm disabled!" card forever.

 

[GunnlaugurSassoon]

He has always looked like he walked straight of the set of Waxworks 1988. His hygiene is just as atrocious as it ever was.

Spoiler: Viewer beware--you're in for a scare!

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The constant sogginess of this man is astonishing. He must be either the most hydrated or the most dehydrated person to ever live.

 

[Viridian]

The constant sogginess of this man is astonishing. He must be either the most hydrated or the most dehydrated person to ever live.

That's not water. That's 100% grease.

 

[TractorGirl]

So he likes black girls, white girls, Latinas, Indian/south Asian girls, blondes, brunettes, East Asian girls, twinks, and studs.
Redheads remain the only category he doesn't show attraction to.

And fatty mcpatties.

A childhood of being called carrot top, ginger pubes and fire crotch has finally paid off

 

[Dontfeedthelulz]

A childhood of being called carrot top, ginger pubes and fire crotch has finally paid off

I've been debating keeping my hair dark vs going back to red and this thread tipped the scales...this must be how chameleons feel when they change colours to hide from predators.

As I said before, my opinion is that Russhole is narcsexual, if anything. That said, I can definitely agree that he considers being seen in public with an attractive women something that gave him more "status" than being with an attractive man.

I'd say this is damn near dead on. Russ is bisexual but like...he doesn't really have any concrete sexual preferences. He can think someone is attractive, sure, but the attraction is conditional on how much status or sex they could hypothetically give him. Take his only confirmed male target for example: Matt is a smokeshow, but in Russ' hollow, beady eyes, wouldn't theoretically get him very much status because Russ is closeted and deeply homophobic, which would cancel out the attraction, but he was a potential source for sex so he still wanted to fuck. And look how many gorgeous women he's gone sour grapes over - once it's clear he can't control them, fuck them, or flaunt them, he flips the simp switch to off.

If someone is hot but can't give him status or sex, he doesn't care. Loses attraction. If they're hot and he thinks they can give him status or sex, he stays attracted. But he still has to think they're attractive in the first place.

Sorry for the ranty post - just my 2 cents about his tragic sexuality.

 

[AnOminous]

Lolcow LLC may be served via email.

Well, maybe. But it would have to be a defendant first.

If Null the individual has indeed been serviced improperly, would acknowledging it at all, e.g., objecting in some fashion to the ruling, constitute some kind of receipt of the service?

No. Otherwise you could never contest service of process because just doing so would be consenting to it. You used to have to enter a "special appearance" to contest only service but not actually being under the full jurisdiction of the court. There's no longer a magic words requirement for doing it, although one could waive service by actually answering the substantive merits of the case instead of limiting yourself to service of process/personal jurisdiction issues, or doing something like filing a counterclaim that effectively acknowledges the jurisdiction of the court over the dispute.