Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

(sorry, dropped some SSs from that last one and can't edit it, here's the proof she was starving that she posted to insta. If I see anything else I dropped I'll add it to this post)


RE: her food pantry thing, she started this group after the local free stuff group kicked her out for being a psycho. Most of the meals she post photos of, she actually gives away from what I can tell.

 

[Old Wizard]

(sorry, dropped some SSs from that last one and can't edit it, here's the proof she was starving that she posted to insta. If I see anything else I dropped I'll add it to this post)

Probably been discussed before, but what's the deal with anorexia and munchausens? I've seen so many ED people online blame their weight loss on gastroparesis specifically. Are these people with munchausens who are starving themselves to make themselves look sick, or are these people with anorexia who are trying to hide it by claiming WL was caused by diseases they don't have? Is there overlap because it's a self-destructive thing?
I've met a lot of ED people who were self-conscious about disordered eating habits and the results (skeletal body, hair loss, etc) and went through great lengths to hide them, but then you see people like Kiley who post stuff like that. What gives?

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Probably been discussed before, but what's the deal with anorexia and munchausens? I've seen so many ED people online blame their weight loss on gastroparesis specifically. Are these people with munchausens who are starving themselves to make themselves look sick, or are these people with anorexia who are trying to hide it by claiming WL was caused by diseases they don't have? Is there overlap because it's a self-destructive thing?
I've met a lot of ED people who were self-conscious about disordered eating habits and the results (skeletal body, hair loss, etc) and went through great lengths to hide them, but then you see people like Kiley who post stuff like that. What gives?

I think it's kind of a chicken-egg deal. There's some like Kiley who had obvious eating disorders then found physical disorders that would explain the weight loss/make it not their fault when they starved themselves to death. Then there's people like the eternal queen of my heart Amanda "Skinwalker" Winig who apparantly had no health problems and no ED until she decided she wanted to be Jaquie, then she started starving and purging. It would be kind of interesting to see how many of them actually fall into each category.

And there's the third category with people like Dani Marina and her friend Kelly who undeniably had eating disorders and made anorexia their only identity. Once they got into treatment they started faking physical illnesses. What makes them both interesting to me is that their need to balance these two identities - fragile anorexic and very sick girl - is the reason both of the have gotten quite overweight in the last few years. Dani, in particular, will squawk at anyone suggesting she goes for even a short walk or does any conditioning exercises because she's the WORST ANOREXIC And she can NEVER EXERCISE AGAIN. If someone says she shouldn't be drinking milkshakes because she's on TPN she'll scream about how the "anorexic voices" tell her not to eat so she HAS to drink the milkshake. It's incredible how the munchausen is actually perversely curing the eating disorder. (Skinwalker is also on TPN and binges, but she has learned how to purge spectacularly well through her G-tube and over exercising to keep herself skeletal; she acknowledged she had disordered eating at one point and gained some weight but from what I hear she's lost all that weight now, and she only acknowledged the eating disorder as a result of her super severe gastroparesis i. e. "I developed disordered eating because I was so worried about getting sick from everything I ate.")

 

[Penguin]

Probably been discussed before, but what's the deal with anorexia and munchausens? I've seen so many ED people online blame their weight loss on gastroparesis specifically. Are these people with munchausens who are starving themselves to make themselves look sick, or are these people with anorexia who are trying to hide it by claiming WL was caused by diseases they don't have? Is there overlap because it's a self-destructive thing?
I've met a lot of ED people who were self-conscious about disordered eating habits and the results (skeletal body, hair loss, etc) and went through great lengths to hide them, but then you see people like Kiley who post stuff like that. What gives?

It’s probably been covered but here’s my take… My understanding is that long-term restriction and/or habitual purging can slow down digestion temporarily or longer term, leading to nausea and early fullness and other symptoms that basically look like gastroparesis when one does eat at a rate incrementally closer to “normal”. Duh, the stomach’s not used to working so much. Throw in the anxiety of eating more/purging less, which can disrupt the mind-gut connection (apparently? not my area of expertise), and it’s only worse. So I don’t think it’s uncommon to justify resistance to refeeding with “I just can’t physically eat that much.”

From there, it’s not too much of a stretch to see how appealing it might be to say, especially if in denial about an ED at all, “no im not resisting food cos i have an ED im really sick”.

If one sticks to the programme of returning to health (especially I guess in inpatient recovery, and with a personality that would be compliant in the first place, or a stronger tether to reality) they will eventually, hopefully, work out the physical and mental aspects of this. But one could also keep holding on to GP as the reason no eating can be done, and keep doing things that exacerbate it (flip flop on restricting, get worked up about eating).

Probably some personality and environmental factors/wildcards will tip the balance here as well. One might even go further and latch on to a gEnETiC rEaSOn that this is insurmountable, which comes with a whole constellation of other symptoms to retcon/mimic/produce…

And yeah, you do have a point in that the “look how hot and skinny I am” is maybe not typical—or at least not universal; my guess is there are broadly different kinds of factors/personalities disposed to ED behaviour, and while the outcomes (eg, skelly status) may look the same they didn’t get there the same way, and so may act differently about it.

 

[For The Internet]

Kiley is so close to Anna/Fit Vegan Ginger now that Anna has started munching that it's crazy. She's thinner than Anna, but they make strikingly similar food choices. Kiley's food looks mostly palatable though, and doesn't have enough low fat protein powder to be mistaken for Anna's concoctions (plus not a single mention of stevia). For those not familiar, Anna is also an othorexic/anorexic jesus-loving woo-chugging clean-eating mess.

I think it's becoming increasingly popular now that there's so many zebras out there being loud online for anorexics to see the symptoms of EDS and gastroparesis etc and say 'holy shit, that's my ticket to avoiding inpatient'. It's an anorexic's dream to be able to starve themselves to a skeleton and not be blamed for their disorder or made to get treatment. But it's also that when you starve yourself/purge to a certain degree you're going to permanently fuck up your body and have genuine issues. I think perhaps some anorexic people who are sick lie about what their disorders really are because if they claim gastroparesis it looks better than admitting what's really wrong with their guts because it could be linked back to their ED.

Unrelated to her munching but for a model, Kiley sure is sporting a hell of a honker.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

If I may clutch my pearls a bit, does this leathery ol' bitch seriously have a Rottweiler named Rommel? That is...something.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

If I may clutch my pearls a bit, does this leathery ol' bitch seriously have a Rottweiler named Rommel? That is...something.

Yes. And she got the dog’s nazi name printed in her father’s obituary (but not his own siblings’ names)

she says somewhere that she didn’t pick the name, he came with it and she kept it for consistency/training purposes. But her whole life is baiting people so she can play the victim. I am totally convinced that her reason for choosing (or keeping) the name is the same reason she had an unneutered Rottweiler as a “service dog”: she wanted someone to challenge her so she could screech about it.

 

[For The Internet]

If I may clutch my pearls a bit, does this leathery ol' bitch seriously have a Rottweiler named Rommel? That is...something.

What's crazier is that when she was posting on Reddit about it some other asshole said he once had a Rottie named Rommel. I don't think they were trolling.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

What's crazier is that when she was posting on Reddit about it some other asshole said he once had a Rottie named Rommel. I don't think they were trolling.

Many people like the idea of bringing monsters of history to heel. But of course, if one names one's dog after a Nazi war criminal, others will naturally assume one harbors an affection for Nazi war criminals. Funny how that goes.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

"So final (hopefully) part of the Kiley Saga. When last we left Kiley she was recovering from her Mystery Ailment that was definitely not an eating disorder but arsenic poisoning and I was getting myself put on international watchlists."

What an incedibly vile, reprehensible creature.

@Kate Farms Shill, I don't know how you do this, but I am awfully glad that you do. It will take days for me to really read her walls of accusatory text (I think I'm going to need to make diagrams to keep the whole thing straight) but thank you. I would like to nominate you for the Kiwi Farms Medal of Freedom; if it doesn't exist, it should.

 

[Dovahshit]

Lots to update about Morgan but I’ll start with Laurie stating (AGAIN) in a parents’ support group that she doesn’t think Morgan has Parkinson’s. Interesting since Morgan has referred to her Parkinson’s and dementia that “we” think I have...

Then is a post on Reddit about a meeting with Morgan and woof, it’s a doozy. “Morgan, you said you wouldn’t do this.”
This post came at a great time because last week for the second month in a row, Morgan has documented running out of pain medication early. She claims it’s due to the “surgery” to move her port, her jtube switch out from last month, a broken wrist which has been in a cast for almost a month and I’m sure some other things I’m missing. I’ll post those SS next but rest assured,Morgan has not changed her ways.

poor dad,

morgan is going to kill herself this way, nodding off and keep swallowing pills like that.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

"So final (hopefully) part of the Kiley Saga. When last we left Kiley she was recovering from her Mystery Ailment that was definitely not an eating disorder but arsenic poisoning and I was getting myself put on international watchlists."

What an incedibly vile, reprehensible creature.

@Kate Farms Shill, I don't know how you do this, but I am awfully glad that you do. It will take days for me to really read her walls of accusatory text (I think I'm going to need to make diagrams to keep the whole thing straight) but thank you. I would like to nominate you for the Kiwi Farms Medal of Freedom; if it doesn't exist, it should.

I honestly don’t read them all the way through. I scan for keywords and then read the text around those to get the context. Most of these girls fall into a fairly predictable pattern and you just start to learn where certain plot lines are headed.

the ones that exhaust me are the ones who fancy themselves activists and need to make everything political. The NotLikeOtherGirls who need to remind you they’re queer and agender and go by they/them, who dress like they’re trying to sneak through someone’s acid trip, for whom everything is a disability rights crusade. Compared to another 5000 story posts about how you Are Valid this gutter goblin was a real treat.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

the ones that exhaust me are the ones who fancy themselves activists and need to make everything political. The NotLikeOtherGirls who need to remind you they’re queer and agender and go by they/them, who dress like they’re trying to sneak through someone’s acid trip, for whom everything is a disability rights crusade.

I would love to see your take on Stephanie Cianfriglia.

 

[large_farva]

msashycat has a thread now:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ashley-nichole-rheiner-msashycat-ms_ashycat.85366/

 

[griftinsincebeengriftin]

msashycat has a thread now:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ashley-nichole-rheiner-msashycat-ms_ashycat.85366/

Yes! I’m a little too excited for this, mostly because I feel like I can never keep up with the ever evolving shitball that’s growing on tiktok. I’ll be glad to have a condensed and concentrated space here.

 

[Ass Dan]

Holy fuck, if that Kylie hag were my daughter I'd poison her ass too. I need a Silkwood shower after that. @Kate Farms Shill you are the GOAT

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Holy shit Janiece just announced she’s pregnant.



I’ll be surprised if she manages to carry to term given that she’s very underweight, very medicated, completely sedentary, and currently has an active eating disorder, c-diff, and some other medical issue she’s hospitalized with. Even more surprised if the kid is born healthy.

maybe we’ll get a crossover with the Tard Baby thread.

(and you know whatever the outcome she’s naming it after Jaquie.)

eta just saw the date on this post and didn’t know it was old news. Was new news to me.

 

[Come]

So if I'm understanding this correctly.... Kylie probably either poisoned herself on purpose due to Munchausen... Or by accident buying dodgy weight loss powders from dark web. (Or was never poisoned at all, but that's not as interesting)

When her mom started getting involved and trying to figure out what was wrong with her, Kylie played along. She was too deep into the "mysterious illness" lie and couldn't refuse testing without admitting it was an ED. (or that she did it to herself/munched) When weird things started showing up on the tests and mom started pushing psych treatment HARD.... Kylie started the poisoning accusations to get her to back off. She flipped the script to put mom on defense and halt the process of getting treatment and recovering.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Holy shit Janiece just announced she’s pregnant.

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I’ll be surprised if she manages to carry to term given that she’s very underweight, very medicated, completely sedentary, and currently has an active eating disorder, c-diff, and some other medical issue she’s hospitalized with. Even more surprised if the kid is born healthy.

maybe we’ll get a crossover with the Tard Baby thread.

(and you know whatever the outcome she’s naming it after Jaquie.)

eta just saw the date on this post and didn’t know it was old news. Was new news to me.

Jesus Christ. Actively trying to get pregnant, including not using any contraception, is the height of self-indulgence and stupidity for anyone in Jan's situation. So, par for the course for her, I guess.

(Also, it is so fucking dumb the way the IF-adjacent subs insist on indicating pronouns for all of their subjects, even those who have never indicated being anything other than, in the words of our friend Sapphire Crimson Claw, "allopericishet". Especially for the screenshotted thread - it's discussing a fucking PREGNANCY. I think most of us can guess what pronouns to use.)

I would love to see your take on Stephanie Cianfriglia.

I have a take on her, if anyone is wondering.

:autism:

 

[Old McDonald's Body Farm]

It’s probably been covered but here’s my take… My understanding is that long-term restriction and/or habitual purging can slow down digestion temporarily or longer term, leading to nausea and early fullness and other symptoms that basically look like gastroparesis...

^this, exactly. Any kind of starvation/restriction will have the same effect - coming off of periods of being utterly broke for instance can create horrible bloating and pain. It's not even about the eating disorder at that point it's about the body's physical response to periods of starvation. I think this may be a factor in "former" anorexics claiming GP - it's actually (finally) something properly outside of their control (unlike a lot of anorexics whose disorder is IME based on self-policed compulsion, self harm, and addictive personalities. As was always said on MPA in the heyday "anorexia is a lifestyle not an illness") Suddenly they're "actually sick!" and the excuses write themselves.

I would love to see your take on Stephanie Cianfriglia.

Oh GOD (or should I say Satan?)