Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

So what's your deal, anyway?

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I noticed that her NSFW comic has its own site now (and it's also on Hiveworks) http://forbiddenflora.com/
And seeing the satyr character reminded me, didn't PK have YET ANOTHER partner? Luvlymilk or something? They seemed to have bonded a lot, I mean Milk's character was all over PK's art at some point and I'm pretty sure PK's called her her girlfriend at some point. Then milk deleted all her Flora content forever and they never spoke again. Does anyone know what happened? There must have been some juicy hidden drama going on

I don't know anything about that, unfortunately, but I'm definitely seeing a pattern here with her little side dish relationships. I'm still wondering when the Exty falling out is going to happen and what it's gonna mean for Flora when it does. If Beleth is Exty's character then hoo boy.

eta: actually in this case I can see PK using the CC license thing as a reason to keep Beleth around if Exty bails, but it'd be way funnier if he just disappeared or got written out badly like other ex friends' and partners' characters have been.
 
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The episodes my boyfriend wrote for our project with characters I originally made have developed my characters further. It's pretty gross to throw your creative partner/life partner under the bus because you need more credit (PK is the face for Floraverse anyway. Marl/Eevee/Exty are barely known to be part of the project. Why she needs more cred is beyond me.)
Also, creative partnership aside he's her god damn husband. Why is she being all competitive and weird with her god damn husband? Shouldn't you... you know, love the guy and want him to be apart of the stuff you do.
I'd hate to have a creative competition with my boyfriend, that sounds stressful and bizarre.

That's also another reason why I didn't understand PK taking offense at people wanting to know more about how Marl does things. He is her husband, so she should be happy people are noticing his works, AND also a creator who reads a hell lot of books (unlike PK), so he does have some creativity/imaginative drive (apparently he also wrote most of Itchy Itchy, which was the best story arc so far). It's great to have a partner to help you flesh out your ideas (I'm currently very much enjoying my friend's inputs on my own projects), because they bring in different points of view, so wouldn't you also want to know HOW they thought up the stuff they did? Doesn't that also help you grow? Aren't you interested in the work process of people who give you good insight?

It's funny that, taking all of this into consideration, PK appears to be very selfish and self-centered, and that defeats the whole purpose and premise of the Floraverse (according to her), which is to be an 'inclusive sandbox community'. She herself says she wants people to contribute and make those contributions a part of Flora because this encourages not only social participation/interaction, but also creativity*. It helps the world (and the creators) grow, as different people have different, interesting ideas. So why is she suddenly so defensive and pissy with people being curious about Marl's working process? How does she go I DO MOST OF THE WORK HOW DARE YOU ASK ONLY MARL? Seriously, that was incredibly bratty of her.

I honestly can't fathom how a chill guy like Marl stands someone as abrasive as PK.

(*I'm going to add that I can't help but think that this also opens to the possibility of apropriation of other people's creations, given Floraverse's licensing and whatnot)

Also, my two cents on the Eevee financially dependence stuff. I am almost certain that Marl caved into PK + Eevee's relationship because Eevee offered financial stability for them.

To be honest, I don't doubt that either. Also, Marl's apparently into young boys, which I think Eevee was when he became part of the relationship, but this is mere speculation on my part.

didn't PK have YET ANOTHER partner? Luvlymilk or something? They seemed to have bonded a lot, I mean Milk's character was all over PK's art at some point and I'm pretty sure PK's called her her girlfriend at some point. Then milk deleted all her Flora content forever and they never spoke again. Does anyone know what happened? There must have been some juicy hidden drama going on

From what I gathered, PK and Milk went together to a convention in Japan last year, and, while Milk was very outgoing and social and wanting to interact with everyone and spend time with other friends, PK, being the anti-social child she is, behaved in the exact, opposite way, and complained about all the 'hanging aroun', saying that being around people all the time was very draining on her. I think the fallout happened there, but I don't believe there was anything super dramatic about it. Milk moved on to invest in her own projects (a much better alternative, in my opinion), and they seem to be on good terms, if their tweets are to be believed.

I don't know anything about that, unfortunately, but I'm definitely seeing a pattern here with her little side dish relationships. I'm still wondering when the Exty falling out is going to happen and what it's gonna mean for Flora when it does. If Beleth is Exty's character then hoo boy.

eta: actually in this case I can see PK using the CC license thing as a reason to keep Beleth around if Exty bails, but it'd be way funnier if he just disappeared or got written out badly like other ex friends' and partners' characters have been.

The sadistic part of me really wants to see something like that happening. Sadly, though, yeah, the license wouldn't help generating enough drama, and seeing as Exty is a quiet individual, I don't think the shitstorm would be so great. :(

She could always come up with the excuse that she invented Beleth's Itchy Itchy design, so the character also at least partially belongs to her or some other dumb collaborative argument. Seeing as she kept a PMD-E character that was created by another person, I wouldn't doubt she'd just take posession of Beleth and not bother explaining anything.
 
ahaha I decided to check out this Beleth's Toybox blog out of curiosity and stumbled upon this.

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> Make a character with broad shoulders, no breasts, large hands, and wearing a tuxedo (which does have a skirt but the character is only shown from the waist up most of the time) and then get salty about your soggy knees when people understandably assumed the character was male:

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I thought Amdusias was a man too until I read the character page.

Also that whole blog is kind of bizarre. Why does your furry roleplay comic have what essentially amounts to a gender advice blog.
 
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I legit think that the "I feel scammed" comments came from hetero female furries/fans that found Amdusias attractive as a male, and were disappointed to find a female there.
This would be very normal in real life, since everyone has a right to prefer a cis male over a trans male, but in tumblrworld, it is extremely offensive to find boys more attractive than girls, and even more offensive to only have an interest for cis boys, excluding all the ftm and queer boys. PK is totally one of those people who would be offended by the preference. Tumblr is a fascinating ecosystem.

The sadistic part of me really wants to see something like that happening. Sadly, though, yeah, the license wouldn't help generating enough drama, and seeing as Exty is a quiet individual, I don't think the shitstorm would be so great. :(

She could always come up with the excuse that she invented Beleth's Itchy Itchy design, so the character also at least partially belongs to her or some other dumb collaborative argument. Seeing as she kept a PMD-E character that was created by another person, I wouldn't doubt she'd just take posession of Beleth and not bother explaining anything.

I predict that at some point there will be a falling out with Exty and that yes, PK will keep using the Itchy Itchy design for Beleth, or kill present Beleth again and make them come back with a different body. After all it is evident that PK prefers more feminine bodies for Beleth and their original design is more masculine than their Itchy Itchy one. She is not above doing it.

As for Marl, he clearly is the best of the trio in terms of creativity and his writing is much better than PK's (after all, he doesn't have a self-insert so he can't really go down the mary-sue hole the same way PK does). But it's been claimed in the past that he can be very scary and manipulative in private chats. I don't know, he isn't as easy to figure out as PK or Eevee. I think this also tells us something about him being the most mature.
 
If anyone wants to hear for themselves PK being a self-absorbed child, it happens at the 52 minute mark on episode 9.

As for the LuvlyMilk thing, I remember PK saying somewhere that Milk wasn't happy with the amount of time PK set aside for her or something like that. Honestly, a relationship must be unfulfilling if your partner has their nose in their work for hours and hours with little time to spare. Milk had it worse since that already scanty free time PK has needs to be shared with 3 other people (and those people live with PK while Milk is in another state).
 
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ahaha I decided to check out this Beleth's Toybox blog out of curiosity and stumbled upon this.

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> Make a character with broad shoulders, no breasts, large hands, and wearing a tuxedo (which does have a skirt but the character is only shown from the waist up most of the time) and then get salty about your soggy knees when people understandably assumed the character was male:


Honestly, I can sort of understand why people were confused at and disappointed at the revelation that Amdusias was, in fact, female.

I'm not going to describe her again, but, yeah, her design leads people to believe she's male. Isn't design an important thing to consider when creating characters, especially characters that are cartoony and also not humans? Doesn't that add to what the character is and does? Isn't it a relevant attribute that sends messages about the character to the audience?

If you're going to be misleading, for whatever reason, then accept that people will "feel scammed" when the truth comes out (especially if you're dealing with Tumblrites). In PK's world, though, it wasn't misleading at all, because typical male clothes are wore by females on a regular basis and nobody assumes anything gender-related, ever. It's just that easy, as it's been this way for centuries! What an absurd notion for people to separate clothes the same way they separate genders!

I do agree that women wear suits too (I wear them myself on important occasions), but, on a regular basis (and also in real life), suits are more frequently associated with men, period. Also, women have (usually) shorter, thinner frames than their male counterparts, their breasts often give them a curvy silhouette and most of the time, they look like... well, women. And not horses. So, yeah, it's easy to say "that character is a woman despite the fact her clothes are typical male clothing", but not so much when we're talking about giant bulky kemono equines.

I personally thought Amdusias was female from the start because a) I'm used to PK's SJWism, b) her thin face frame and hair led me to think so, and c) I'm familiarized with Bifauxnen characters and personally adore them, so that was a personal bias.

I mean, compare Amdusias with "apparently-male-but-actually-female" characters such as Lady Oscar, Haruka Tenoh or Utena. They're all female characters who are supposed to be mistaken for males but still have something about their design that is feminine. Take a look at Claudine, who was born female but identifies as a man. In this picture, you can see Claudine alongside his brothers. I can't speak for everyone, but it is clear to me that Claudine's brothers are more masculine than him, and Claudine is intentionally designed less manly, as a means of representation, to tell him apart from ordinary cis men. The creator did it on purpose, giving Claudine feminine features, to lead you to interprete Claudine as a transman. And it works.

If you want to give your female character an outer "manly" appearance, but also want people to know they're female, the LEAST you can do (if you can't give them a voice or use another tool, such as animating them or something else) is give them typically female physical qualities, even subtle clues work. If you don't do that, well, don't be upset and scream MISOGYNY when people get confused and make dumb yaoi hands jokes. Many people (rightfully, I suppose) mistook Integra Hellsing for a guy but the author gave no shits.

What made me make a "derp" face was, in fact, Orobas. Of course the cute, girly, delicate pony is going to be the one to have the dick in the couple, and not the titanic, bulky, masculine giraffe-horse. Progressive. No problem there, honestly, to each their own, but really, instead of giving it a normal dick that is compatible to its size, they just had to attach to it a hyper-realistic, giant horse cock.

Orobas is the culmination of bad My Little Pony fetish art.

Also, they had to give it deranged faces to try to pass it off as "comedy".

As for Marl, he clearly is the best of the trio in terms of creativity and his writing is much better than PK's (after all, he doesn't have a self-insert so he can't really go down the mary-sue hole the same way PK does). But it's been claimed in the past that he can be very scary and manipulative in private chats. I don't know, he isn't as easy to figure out as PK or Eevee. I think this also tells us something about him being the most mature.

I've heard about that as well. It also tells that he might be the truly (and only) "dangerous" one of the group, whilst the other two are just vexatious inoffensive loudmouths. I've seen that post where Pengo refers to Marl, but I also remember seeing other people claim Marl to be manipulative and a child lover (in the unfortunate sense). Then again, these posts were made by Tumblr-users who also claimed to be teenagers with anxiety and other problems, so taking them seriously is really up to you.
 
I noticed that her NSFW comic has its own site now (and it's also on Hiveworks) http://forbiddenflora.com/
Holy shit, this is like 50% rapey (I don't care what PK says, Mismatch is clearly a story about "kawaii" vindictive/corrective rape) and bestiality, and the other half is generic weird pinups and/or characters sitting around bitching. Who likes this shit?
 
Amadusias also has TWO pairs of breasts for some stupid reason. One pair on the upper chest area and then horse crotchboobs.

Before I saw the porn, I had a running joke with a friend that Orobas actually had a huge cock and balls. Imagine my surprise when it turns out I was actually right.

Then again, these posts were made by Tumblr-users who also claimed to be teenagers with anxiety and other problems, so taking them seriously is really up to you.
I agree. Always take them with a grain of salt.

Some people were claiming Marl was a dogfucker pedo but had no proof to show (logs, screenshots, etc.). The people on the other side of the drama was getting on Pengo's ass to show more proof and uncensored logs (the uncensored parts were actually unrelated convos).
 
Some people were claiming Marl was a dogfucker pedo but had no proof to show (logs, screenshots, etc.). The people on the other side of the drama was getting on Pengo's ass to show more proof and uncensored logs (the uncensored parts were actually unrelated convos).

I'm trying to figure out if this whole "Marl is a dogfucker and a pedophile" thing is just a joke people like to spread to piss him (or PK) off or if it's actually based on legitimate evidence that is absurdly hard to find.

And, wow, PK is such a self-centered bitch.


"She isn't rude, she's just opinionated! People mistake voicing opinions with rudeness!"

Yeah, no, that's rude. And I'm not even talking about the "I'm not sure you're good with realism" part. Just her final tweet. I don't even know if that picture is a good reference sheet or not, but, dear god, she's so full of herself. Her ego is so inflated from the asspats she gets.

Here's an EVEN BETTER advice: don't take any fucking advice from PK.

Just in case something happens, here. This is the 'advice picture' in question.
 
Well, it actually is excellent advice to start with realism when you're learning to draw (I draw in a cartoon style and I still consult actual photographs when I don't know how to draw something). And ha, if PK is going to shoot down someone for suggesting that Eevee start with realism then that sure explains the bad anatomy and derivative vibes in her own art. And also probably why she hated art school.

No real opinion on that ref sheet (it doesn't really offer much help other than helping you visualize how furry legs' joints connect) but it's not terrible and the dude was just trying to help. Both of their responses were tremendously bitchy. It's also not that hard to start with a guide like that and alter the proportions to suit what you're drawing.

Holy shit, this is like 50% rapey (I don't care what PK says, Mismatch is clearly a story about "kawaii" vindictive/corrective rape) and bestiality, and the other half is generic weird pinups and/or characters sitting around bitching. Who likes this shit?

I flipped through Mismatch and damn, you're right, like 50% of it is just the characters bitching at each other. I think we're supposed to interpret the constant bickering with crazed faces as comedy, but it seriously falls flat and makes the characters seem really dislikeable. Also, reading that knowing that Alice is a self-insert made it just a little bit creepy. (:_(
 
Well, it actually is excellent advice to start with realism when you're learning to draw (I draw in a cartoon style and I still consult actual photographs when I don't know how to draw something). And ha, if PK is going to shoot down someone for suggesting that Eevee start with realism then that sure explains the bad anatomy and derivative vibes in her own art. And also probably why she hated art school.

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Anatomy? Who needs that?

It's not like anthro bodies are based on human bodies and thus you would need an understanding of human/bipedal bodies to draw a nice anthro, no.
 
Yeah, do NOT take advice from PK. Seriously, don't. There's a chance you might regret it. I'm not joking. I swear.

...You didn't listen to me, did you?

She's really one to talk about anatomical innacuracies, given the weirdly geometric creatures she designs. Of course, in HER case, it would merely be "artistic license".

And, yes, Alice is her most detestable self-insert. She is a loudmouth, bitches about everything all the time, and, along with Mellie, is the most promiscuous thing in the Flora universe. A rather accurate depiction of PK herself.
 
This comic (NWS) is one of the few of her pics that make me gag and have the "under the skin" feeling.

Long Levi is Long (NWS)

I like the art style, but here's another "deep" comic. NWS. First page is on the bottom.

I then came across this drama (yep, NWS) from 9 months ago. Someone stiffed PK on commission money. Never start a commission until you have the damn money in your hands, kiddies!
along with Mellie, is the most promiscuous thing in the Flora universe. A rather accurate depiction of PK herself.
Angel/Furfur is also drawn as promiscuous.
 
She drew a Dangan Ronpa fan comic at some point if I remember correctly and I wonder how goofy the anatomy is in that one.
Anyway the trainer in the Twitch Plays Pokemon picture is also quite f*cked.
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Look at his legs and observe how the arms end below the knee!
It's such a huge, easy to avoid, right-in-your-face mistake and yet the colours make it somewhat hard to notice.
 
PK has always been awful at drawing anything human or with more humanoid anatomy. Her non "critter" like furries/anthros suffer from it as well if they use human anatomy. She excels at drawing monsters/critters.

I remember one time on /v/ a thread somehow became about PK and she was streaming at the time, someone made a redline of one of her human drawings and she saw it in the stream, started crying irl and had to shut down the chat. A whole year later, someone else brought up that same redline again and showed it to her, and she was like "Oh that drawing is a year old why are you giving me critique over such an old image???"

Maybe because you didn't accept it the -first time- you saw it?
 
I remember one time on /v/ a thread somehow became about PK and she was streaming at the time, someone made a redline of one of her human drawings and she saw it in the stream, started crying irl and had to shut down the chat. A whole year later, someone else brought up that same redline again and showed it to her, and she was like "Oh that drawing is a year old why are you giving me critique over such an old image???"

Maybe because you didn't accept it the -first time- you saw it?

I remember that too! And then I remember afterward she took art from like the dude's girlfriend or someone and redlined it to be a smartass. I need to look for the screencaps of that.
 
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