DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Big Brown Schlub]

DOS2 let’s you freely respec at a fairly early point. He may have to buy skill books to get started but he’ll just say “I’ve been told/asked to try this fire/strength build” and just OHKO things.

So did Nioh, yet he never respecced. I guess it depends on how lazy and handheld he'll be.

 

[King of Not Playing Games]

I think there’s a non zero chance that with the amount of dialogue, reading, and early game speed bumps he might pull a Stalker; wander around the map for 30 minutes doing nothing before judging the game as not fun and too slow and sending it to Banworld.

That’s on top of the potential chance for him to 1) get wiped so often in the first area that he pusses out and uninstalls or 2) choose game journalist difficulty (to own the haters who want to see him fail, of course).

There's so many ways this can go wrong.

Is there a name for the phenomenon that Dave displays when he lies constantly and compulsively for sometimes little to no gain but simultaneously and pardoxically shows restraint in that he tries very hard in his lies to keep some semantic 'truth' and always leave himself an out and will not tell an outright bald faced whopper he has to own unless under great pressure.?

Just narcissistic self-preservation. By carefully selecting his lies, or lying by omission, or by not specifically lying but letting the listener jump to his preferred conclusion without correcting them (I have bills to pay! where "bills" refers to anything with a receipt including his WWE Champions micro-transactions), he protects his fragile ego. It's also convenient for someone as lazy as him to have an excuse he can prefix with "I didn't say X, I said Y" to avoid doing the work he represented he was going to do (I didn't say I was going to reboot Project 7, I said I was going to make a Project 7 reboot trailer; I didn't say I didn't get a cat, I've already had a cat). This puts the person pointing out his lie in the position where they have to look up the truth to prove him wrong, which instantly makes them a mentally ill obsessed detractor. He's comfortable telling big lies when he can make the person questioning them look like a bad person (I lied to protect my family and if you point that out you must want my family to die) or if he thinks he can successfully gaslight them (Come to me for the honest truth, don't listen to detractors, but if you ask me about my financial situation, even just the most cursory details, you need serious mental help).

Since today is the start of Divinity 2, I'll go ahead and say right away that I'm more interested in how his character will turn out rather than what character he'll make in the beginning. I bet he'll go back to a garbage balanced build that he utilizes in any other RPG of that type (look at CyberPunk2077, hell look at his Dark Souls and Nioh builds). Any kind of freedom is the bane of Dave's existence because he doesn't know how to play vidya so he doesn't know what strengths he should focus on (cuz he has none) so he ends up with a character who can only utilize all the skills and options the game has on offer poorly.

My understanding is that if you're playing on anything but game journalist difficulty, spreading skill points too thin will leave your characters really underpowered. If he tries to round out his mages with combat skills or vice versa I think he'll be ill-equipped to make much progress. Even something as simple as having two party members with the same hydrosophy spells leaves you tactically open to things you could prevent if you diversified more. And yeah, he can respec as much as he wants, but I don't think he has enough brain cells to do this properly across his entire party (because party balance is very important), and it's possible to lose access to your character's current skills if their new specializations don't support them, so you can bet on that happening.

I recently started watching GOOD lets players... one of then was playing blind RE2RE and he begged viewers not to spoil it for him. He said many times that if you dont like watching a streamer getting stuck on the puzzles and you wanna backseat him, why you watch it?

At one time he pretended to stuck at chess piece puzzle for 10mins... He said he wanted to know which viewers wanted to backseat him. He said these people are "special" and they need "special care".

The difference is night and day.

The streamer Tomato—who I've watched maybe one or two streams of, but has over 100,000 followers—is insanely adamant about backseating, and will straight up ban for it. Besides the generic "don't be a dick" chat rules, backseating is the only act specifically called out as bannable. I wish DSP had a mod that was willing to time out or ban backseat chatters. DSP not being able to have his chat play the game for him while he does nothing, and rakes in more money for gambling, would be the icing on the cake.

 

[tzgnilki]

Since today is the start of Divinity 2, I'll go ahead and say right away that I'm more interested in how his character will turn out rather than what character he'll make in the beginning. I bet he'll go back to a garbage balanced build that he utilizes in any other RPG of that type (look at CyberPunk2077, hell look at his Dark Souls and Nioh builds). Any kind of freedom is the bane of Dave's existence because he doesn't know how to play vidya so he doesn't know what strengths he should focus on (cuz he has none) so he ends up with a character who can only utilize all the skills and options the game has on offer poorly.

To put things into perspective from what I remember your starting class in DOS2 is akin to how it works in a game like Dark Souls, you could take an unga bunga class but then start dumping all your level ups into stats needed for sorcery and then just play a pure mage, theoretically, so in that sense your starting class only affects your starting stats and gear.
It's not like a classic CRPG like let's say Might and Magic where if you make a Knight he can never learn Self or Elemental magic, or if you pick a Mage he can never learn most weapon skills or Self magic, your options on level up are more limited so someone like Dave has less chance to fuck it up. Or how most JRPGs work where skill and stat growth is predetermined so basically all you get on level up is the game giving you bigger numbers, making it more or less impossible to fuck up, perfect for Dave.

RPGs with progression systems like DOS2 are the bane of his existence, which is why I'll be more interested in his playthrough when he's like 20 hours in, that's when all of it will start crumbling down and MUH BALANCED CHARACTER autism will kick in.

he'll just abuse save states for divinity

 

[PieceofShet]

From DarkDave's Mirror:

https://youtu.be/F8tf6cE2zJo?t=7478

https://youtu.be/F8tf6cE2zJo?t=7889

These clips are great.

 

[Iron Hamster]

No, you hang up first.

He won't set the record for being youngest to have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. He'll be the fourth youngest and it'll be his email signature.

Well, 4th in the world but first in the United States!

 

[Billericay Dickie]

 

[Iron Hamster]

lol. He really is just a drama stream at this point.

 

[DeeTracktor]

Saying trolls ruined his buisness then trolling his fans with the ''No Fenix, soz trolls lol'' in two tweets beats coming fourth in Evo for an achievement

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

Since today is the start of Divinity 2, I'll go ahead and say right away that I'm more interested in how his character will turn out rather than what character he'll make in the beginning. I bet he'll go back to a garbage balanced build that he utilizes in any other RPG of that type (look at CyberPunk2077, hell look at his Dark Souls and Nioh builds). Any kind of freedom is the bane of Dave's existence because he doesn't know how to play vidya so he doesn't know what strengths he should focus on (cuz he has none) so he ends up with a character who can only utilize all the skills and options the game has on offer poorly.

To put things into perspective from what I remember your starting class in DOS2 is akin to how it works in a game like Dark Souls, you could take an unga bunga class but then start dumping all your level ups into stats needed for sorcery and then just play a pure mage, theoretically, so in that sense your starting class only affects your starting stats and gear.
It's not like a classic CRPG like let's say Might and Magic where if you make a Knight he can never learn Self or Elemental magic, or if you pick a Mage he can never learn most weapon skills or Self magic, your options on level up are more limited so someone like Dave has less chance to fuck it up. Or how most JRPGs work where skill and stat growth is predetermined so basically all you get on level up is the game giving you bigger numbers, making it more or less impossible to fuck up, perfect for Dave.

RPGs with progression systems like DOS2 are the bane of his existence, which is why I'll be more interested in his playthrough when he's like 20 hours in, that's when all of it will start crumbling down and MUH BALANCED CHARACTER autism will kick in.

I recently started playing DOS2 blind in anticipation of Phil's playthrough and there are so many failure states.
I'm only playing on normal and have played my fair share of crpgs but almost every fight I barely edge out a win, and I'm chewing through the (limited and expensive) res scrolls which are the only way to revive a fallen character. The AI isn't stupid and will stroll past your fighters to buttfuck your mage if your squad is poorly positioned. A lot of fights are ambushes starting with you surrounded by high-ground range fighters and basically require you to die once so you can reload and prepare.
Character creation is confusing, skills are confusing. The whole game is slapping away complete horseshit as you desperately try to grab the narrowest victory.
There are so many ways for Phil to screw up that even with the handholding, broken build, and gameFAQs open I doubt he'll breeze through it.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

I recently started playing DOS2 blind in anticipation of Phil's playthrough and there are so many failure states.
I'm only playing on normal and have played my fair share of crpgs but almost every fight I barely edge out a win, and I'm chewing through the (limited and expensive) res scrolls which are the only way to revive a fallen character. The AI isn't stupid and will stroll past your fighters to buttfuck your mage if your squad is poorly positioned. A lot of fights are ambushes starting with you surrounded by high-ground range fighters and basically require you to die once so you can reload and prepare.
Character creation is confusing, skills are confusing. The whole game is slapping away complete horseshit as you desperately try to grab the narrowest victory.
There are so many ways for Phil to screw up that even with the handholding, broken build, and gameFAQs open I doubt he'll breeze through it.

Yeah DOS2's early game is absolutely brutal. It's one of those games where the difficulty curve is a wall, once you climb it the rest of the game ain't that bad. Not only because you get better at the game, but because your chars get some good skills that make dealing with the bullshit that gets thrown at you easier. Phil will be seething from the first minute he starts playing the game.

 

[King of Not Playing Games]

I recently started playing DOS2 blind in anticipation of Phil's playthrough and there are so many failure states.
I'm only playing on normal and have played my fair share of crpgs but almost every fight I barely edge out a win, and I'm chewing through the (limited and expensive) res scrolls which are the only way to revive a fallen character. The AI isn't stupid and will stroll past your fighters to buttfuck your mage if your squad is poorly positioned. A lot of fights are ambushes starting with you surrounded by high-ground range fighters and basically require you to die once so you can reload and prepare.
Character creation is confusing, skills are confusing. The whole game is slapping away complete horseshit as you desperately try to grab the narrowest victory.
There are so many ways for Phil to screw up that even with the handholding, broken build, and gameFAQs open I doubt he'll breeze through it.

Yuuuuup. The AI does not give a fuck about your day. They will reposition out of attack distance, place themselves so they can bang out attacks of opportunity, follow you up ladders to negate your height advantage, and take full advantage of environmental hazards and spell interactions to turbofuck you. Even fighting a team that's one level higher than yours is going to be snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. What's great is that they have all the same skills and spells as you do. There's no cheating, just brutal fucking AI efficiency. XCOM would be proud.

 

[Butagokiburi]

Since today is the start of Divinity 2, I'll go ahead and say right away that I'm more interested in how his character will turn out rather than what character he'll make in the beginning. I bet he'll go back to a garbage balanced build that he utilizes in any other RPG of that type (look at CyberPunk2077, hell look at his Dark Souls and Nioh builds). Any kind of freedom is the bane of Dave's existence because he doesn't know how to play vidya so he doesn't know what strengths he should focus on (cuz he has none) so he ends up with a character who can only utilize all the skills and options the game has on offer poorly.

It would be a sight to see him fuck his build up even after receiving help from two different regulars. I just dont know what people get from being another papaverae for phil; someone who does the work for him while he STILL can't follow simple instructions. Maybe DSP asked directly for handholding, who knows. I just don't want him to be all pompous about it while he is playing after saying he got help on his build.

 

[SocietyLiver1488]

It would be a sight to see him fuck his build up even after receiving help from two different regulars. I just dont know what people get from being another papaverae for phil; someone who does the work for him while he STILL can't follow simple instructions. Maybe DSP asked directly for handholding, who knows. I just don't want him to be all pompous about it while he is playing after saying he got help on his build.

He specifically told chat a few days ago not to hold his hand for fights, but helping with general build advice is ok. This will be memory holed at the first sign of difficulty of course.

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

The name "Dark Lotus" immediately perks my ears up, just realized that's the name of a pretty popular rap "super group" featuring among others, the two dudes from Insane Clown Posse.

If one of DSP's paypigs is a fucking Juggalo that will really make my day.

I could swear one of his fans was a Insane Clown Posse fan. I want to say it was good old Sammy Samosa, but I'm not sure anymore.

Spoiler: Sammy

 

[strandedcastaway]

Is there a name for the phenomenon that Dave displays when he lies constantly and compulsively for sometimes little to no gain but simultaneously and pardoxically shows restraint in that he tries very hard in his lies to keep some semantic 'truth' and always leave himself an out and will not tell an outright bald faced whopper he has to own unless under great pressure.?

He does do this and he's very experienced at never flat-out admitting to anything, but let's not give him too much credit. This thread is thousands of pages documenting all the times the lies contradicted and DSP got caught giving four or five different versions of the same story.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

He does do this and he's very experienced at never flat-out admitting to anything, but let's not give him too much credit. This thread is thousands of pages documenting all the times the lies contradicted and DSP got caught giving four or five different versions of the same story.

He's got the deadly combo (deadly for himself, anyway) of being a pathological liar and low IQ. A high IQ pathological liar will at least keep in mind all the narratives of all their lies to make them consistent. They will fuck up eventually, but that's the name of the game when you're weaving webs of lies. For Dave, whatever lie his wet brain destroyed by gin can think up ahn da fly which would give him the best short-term benefit at that current moment is what he goes with, that's why he sometimes contradicts the narrative he just weaved less than a day ago and why a lot of the time we can find 5 different narratives about one particular thing he lied about.

 

[Pargon]

He does do this and he's very experienced at never flat-out admitting to anything, but let's not give him too much credit. This thread is thousands of pages documenting all the times the lies contradicted and DSP got caught giving four or five different versions of the same story.

He's just a chronic liar who knows what he is, and a narcissist atop that. He always has to win, and so any lie he tells which he may think could somehow be disproven has to have eighteen pages of autistic exceptions and subclauses and riders attached that he can point to whenever someone comes along to make him look like a fool. Then he weaves some technicality which exists only in his own head, and/or gaslights the person by calling them an insane idiot retard hater, and/or bans them.

All his stories about how Cool and Wild he was in high school and college, for example, can't be disproven because he was an absolute nobody that no classmate or acquaintance remembers. I guaran-fucking-tee you that he was a pasty, mumble-faced white boy who was so indistinguishable and unremarkable that no one in his decade-plus of activity and infamy on the internet has ever come forward to confirm or deny anything he's ever said about his life prior to joining the FGC. No one gave a single solitary shit about Philip Burnell before he started down the road of becoming The Guy, so it's safe to say that the internet knows nearly everything of note about him.

 

[Just Use Tiger Drop]

As someone who knows jack shit about Divinity, I just hope Phil doesn't pull an RE 2 on this game.

It seriously irked me how he legitimately put his controller down and said he isn't playing anymore until someone tells him how to beat the boss.

I know Phil's gonna get held hand through this game, but I seriously hope the game fucks his shit up no matter the hand holding.

... what? But you just... shoot... all the bosses in RE2? Isn't it obvious "the orange glowing part" of the boss takes more damage? I'm gonna have to look that up.

But Divinity is pretty simple, I've played it and had a blast with it and I don't have a history with the Icewind Dale/Boulder's Gate style games. You have have damage types (magical and physical) with two types of armor/health, and you hit them with whichever one you want. There's even a bunch of goofy things you can do to avoid fights, like teleporting heavy things on top of people, or giving them a thing of oil as a gift and then light them on fire. It's all pretty straightforward, but...

Of course this is Phil we're talking about, but I'm just picturing "Okay, but um... what do I do though?! Ahm so khanfused!"

 

[gettingthatgrooveback]

I expect the most egregious stalling ever today. I say he's going to start playing Divinity at 1:30pm his time.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

I could swear one of his fans was a Insane Clown Posse fan. I want to say it was good old Sammy Samosa, but I'm not sure anymore.

Spoiler: Sammy

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I thought Sammy Samosa was a made up person. A sock puppet created by the Sons of Kojima.

As Phil's biggest fan and the SOK's biggest hater, wouldn't he have celebrated the fall of the SOK? Instead he disappeared, never to be heard from again.