Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[cow-wannabe]

Cecil hotel sucked. Throughout the episode, they focused on the city of Los Angeles and only devoted like five or ten minutes to the actual case itself. Very underwhelming.

Let me piss on everyone's parade. EL was bipolar, there's easy access to the roof via fire escape, water tank doors blow shut all the time, and the video circulated of the lift that made it all look so mysterious was slowed-down to make it look spooky (rather than that she was just being crazy), The whole thing was debunked a couple of years ago.

 

[Smug Freiza]

Are you counting the figures now? I thought you didn’t want to do that because it puts you in Spawn territory.

Either way, I fully expect Cyberfrog 3 to make $800-900K. It’ll no doubt be successful. However, considering your general speed per book and the fact you don’t have another Warts and All-type collection to publish, combined with Zack’s already-announced slate for the year not containing either Jawbreakers or Expendables... I don’t particularly see there being any big shock that gets CG to nearly the highs of last year, especially with the slew of underfunded projects that we’ve been seeing more recently.

The success of CG 2021 hinges on how quickly certain creators can fulfil last years obligations before crowdfunding sequels again mid-late this year. It may look grim for the yearly total now but consider if Blade Devil, Cash Grab, Rekt Planet, Graveyard Shift 3, Jawbreakers 3 and Black Flag all fulfill before years end, with sequel campaigns launching during or after fulfillment.

All the above campaigns are overdue, barring Rekt Planet and Graveyard Shift 3, the sooner these creators can finish and fulfill, the sooner they can reasonably launch sequel campaigns. Each one of the above examples raised over 200K and there's little reason to believe they won't do so again, except maybe Zack who is honestly skating on thin ice right now. I anticipate that Jon Malin will overtake Zack as Comicsgate's no.2 crowdfunder after Ethan very shortly.

Starlight Cats is due in August, if Shane completes it on time it might free him up for a sequel or a different title. Starlight Cats just crossed the 90K mark and is slowly making it's way towards six figures. Kyle Ritter's Starblades while late is now being published by ALL CAPS so hopefully will be fulfilled asap, and Kyle might repeat his six figure success with a sequel. TUG I'm sure is already rubbing his hands at the thought of another Littliest Umbrella campaign earning over six figures again.

The silent one to watch right now is Yellowflash, who is rumored to be working on his own project. Flash has a larger channel than most and his audience extends through Comicsgate, Weeb Wars and The Fandom Menace. He can probably expect to be promoted by Ethan, TUG, Nick Rekieta, Raging Golden Eagle, That Star War Girl and possibly The Quartering which will grant him access to a massive pool of potential customers. I'd expect a Yellowflash book to surpass most CG books, earning somewhere between 300-500K.

Honestly, Comicsgate is in a pretty miserable state if your stuff is like >90% of revenue.

I could honestly see a future where Lim's stuff would surpass the combined total of everything in CG, sans your own work. It's that good, and that successful. So much stuff in CG has been dogshit.

Tim Lim is experiencing an unprecedented amount of growth from each campaign and is the only ex-CG creator to grow his campaigns after leaving. Mike, Doug and JDA never beat their original campaign's success while in Comicsgate upon leaving, Lim is the only one I know of to do so. It took time though and Tim's original campaigns after leaving did terribly compared to Trump Space Force, it's only with Kamen America and his collected Omnibuses nearly two years later he was able to recover.

He still pales in comparison to the big earners I mentioned previously in my post, but if he continues growing at this rate I don't see why he can't eventually be earning TUG or Ritter money for each campaign.

well it works out pretty good for Ethan. Everyone else, not so much...

Zack, Raging Golden Eagle, Cecil, Jon Malin, Dan Fraga, TUG, Kyle Ritter and soon Shane Davis have all done remarkably well for themselves earning over 100K for a campaign. Even the ex-CG creators like Mike S Miller, Mitch Breitweiser, Doug TenNapel and Warcampaign did far better when they were in Comicsgate, earning over six figures with Ethan's promotion.

Smaller first time creators like Nasser, Ben Henderson, Liam Gray, Donal Delay, Antonio Brice, Cridious and Martina Markota also earned tens of thousands for their campaigns with Ethan's promotion. I can understand Ethan's apprehension when promoting smaller creator's campaigns when looking at the clusterfuck Cridious and Martina turned out to be and the wait time for Brand, Brutas the Badass and Red Rooster.

 

[A nameless trool]

TLW
Liam Setting the record straight as he is showing you are supposed to read Xenotype right to left starting from the begining, so the book is basically paginated pages 1, 3, 2, 5, 4, 7, 6 etc and throwing Ody under the bus, blaming him for typos, choosing to get a share instead of a pagerate, wanting to do a 200 page instead of 60 page book, reveals his IBAN for the internet to see at 1:10 and also blaming him for not promoting.

Then goes on a Liamist recount of the project. The cow levels are weak in this one, but still, the dox of abank account is in line with Liam being Liam

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

TLW
Liam Setting the record straight as he is showing you are supposed to read Xenotype right to left starting from the begining, so the book is basically paginated pages 1, 3, 2, 5, 4, 7, 6 etc and throwing Ody under the bus, blaming him for typos, choosing to get a share instead of a pagerate, wanting to do a 200 page instead of 60 page book, reveals his IBAN for the internet to see at 1:10 and also blaming him for not promoting.

Then goes on a Liamist recount of the project. The cow levels are weak in this one, but still, the dox of abank account is in line with Liam being Liam

Has anyone else noticed how Liam keeps using the Australian Dollar Currency to confuse people?

Yesterday, I predicted Liam would show his true self by saying "SUPERCHATS" from the BeyBlades stream were part of Ody's payment.

This is a teaching moment for Ody, but the failure of Xenotype is all on Liam Gray of CON-quest COMICS. If anyone is stupid to keep trusting Liam it is on them.

Everyone needs to remember the YEARS of false promises and bullshit Liam has said about his career and how great Xenotype would be.

 

[Pilule Noire]

Spectacular levels of retardation in the Liamite comments on that video. The view of these Liamites is that @FROG is a very terrible individual because he cancelled Liam for actual good reasons, which came from reality, instead of cancelling Nasser for disproven fabricated reasons that came from Liam's arse.

CG clearly had a strongly retarded element to it Frog, let's hope that this Liamite exodus acts as a kind of brain surgery on the collective CG unconscious, raising the painfully low IQ of the CG hive mind by siphoning the worst retards off to live in Liam's mud kingdom.

 

[FROG]

The success of CG 2021 hinges on how quickly certain creators can fulfil last years obligations before crowdfunding sequels again mid-late this year. It may look grim for the yearly total now but consider if Blade Devil, Cash Grab, Rekt Planet, Graveyard Shift 3, Jawbreakers 3 and Black Flag all fulfill before years end, with sequel campaigns launching during or after fulfillment.

All the above campaigns are overdue, barring Rekt Planet and Graveyard Shift 3, the sooner these creators can finish and fulfill, the sooner they can reasonably launch sequel campaigns. Each one of the above examples raised over 200K and there's little reason to believe they won't do so again, except maybe Zack who is honestly skating on thin ice right now. I anticipate that Jon Malin will overtake Zack as Comicsgate's no.2 crowdfunder after Ethan very shortly.

Starlight Cats is due in August, if Shane completes it on time it might free him up for a sequel or a different title. Starlight Cats just crossed the 90K mark and is slowly making it's way towards six figures. Kyle Ritter's Starblades while late is now being published by ALL CAPS so hopefully will be fulfilled asap, and Kyle might repeat his six figure success with a sequel. TUG I'm sure is already rubbing his hands at the thought of another Littliest Umbrella campaign earning over six figures again.

The silent one to watch right now is Yellowflash, who is rumored to be working on his own project. Flash has a larger channel than most and his audience extends through Comicsgate, Weeb Wars and The Fandom Menace. He can probably expect to be promoted by Ethan, TUG, Nick Rekieta, Raging Golden Eagle, That Star War Girl and possibly The Quartering which will grant him access to a massive pool of potential customers. I'd expect a Yellowflash book to surpass most CG books, earning somewhere between 300-500K.

Tim Lim is experiencing an unprecedented amount of growth from each campaign and is the only ex-CG creator to grow his campaigns after leaving. Mike, Doug and JDA never beat their original campaign's success while in Comicsgate upon leaving, Lim is the only one I know of to do so. It took time though and Tim's original campaigns after leaving did terribly compared to Trump Space Force, it's only with Kamen America and his collected Omnibuses nearly two years later he was able to recover.

He still pales in comparison to the big earners I mentioned previously in my post, but if he continues growing at this rate I don't see why he can't eventually be earning TUG or Ritter money for each campaign.

Zack, Raging Golden Eagle, Cecil, Jon Malin, Dan Fraga, TUG, Kyle Ritter and soon Shane Davis have all done remarkably well for themselves earning over 100K for a campaign. Even the ex-CG creators like Mike S Miller, Mitch Breitweiser, Doug TenNapel and Warcampaign did far better when they were in Comicsgate, earning over six figures with Ethan's promotion.

Smaller first time creators like Nasser, Ben Henderson, Liam Gray, Donal Delay, Antonio Brice, Cridious and Martina Markota also earned tens of thousands for their campaigns with Ethan's promotion. I can understand Ethan's apprehension when promoting smaller creator's campaigns when looking at the clusterfuck Cridious and Martina turned out to be and the wait time for Brand, Brutas the Badass and Red Rooster.

Defining CG's success by what it earns in any given calendar year is completely arbitrary. If JAWBREAKERS 4, GRAVEYARD SHIFT 4, CASH GRAB 2, BLADEDEVILS 2, CYBERFROG 3, LITTLEST UMBRELLA 3, BLACK FLAG 2 and PROJECT THUNDARR happen to launch in January of 2022 instead of November of 2021, I guess it'll appear that ComicsGate failed, but then came roaring back the next year?

It only depends on how much the big dogs are able to put out there.

I mostly keep an eye on the middle projects, to see that they're improving. You want to see JOHNNY PHANTASM comics go from $7100, to $14K to a third entry at $34K. You want to see Clint Stoker's books doing better as he builds franchises. I want to see that it's fairly common for good projects to hit 5 figures with or without my help.

That's sorta my point.

Maybe not as snarky though. Again, I don't have a strong opinion about him either way.

My point is that if Lim can beat out everybody in CG that isn't Ethan, is it not ridiculous to say CG still trumps Lim only because and when Ethan's numbers are factored in?

To me, that's not really a successful "movement." That's a successful individual. That's one person standing-out amongst a sea of mediocrity.

This entire post is a hallucination.

You conjured up the idea that perhaps one day Tim Lim will meet your hopes for him, and then CG will be a failure in comparison to him. He isn't currently doing that. Cecil's first campaign crushed all nine of Tim's IndieGoGo campaigns combined.

Probably everyone will follow a similar trajectory as they successfully fulfill sequels to their most popular IPs, Tim included.

well it works out pretty good for Ethan. Everyone else, not so much...

I feel like CYBERFROG is a beacon for other crowdfunders and probably is a big reason other campaigns do as well as they do. Because CYBERFROG is attached to a thing called "ComicsGate," it invites my thousands of backers to look at other comics under that umbrella. CYBERFROG has a lot of buzz around it, from people who love it and people who hate the idea that I survived cancellation. It's more likely that you've heard of CYBERFROG than almost any other crowdfunded comic book.

I know that some other people would rather believe that there's only so much money out there, and that I'm getting more than my share of it. And perhaps that if I'd just go away, everyone in CG would do better.

But those people are retards.

My suspicion is that my being here, (or rather, other creators being in my close proximity) works out pretty good for everyone.

 

[Smug Freiza]

Defining CG's success by what it earns in any given calendar year is completely arbitrary. If JAWBREAKERS 4, GRAVEYARD SHIFT 4, CASH GRAB 2, BLADEDEVILS 2, CYBERFROG 3, LITTLEST UMBRELLA 3, BLACK FLAG 2 and PROJECT THUNDARR happen to launch in January of 2022 instead of November of 2021, I guess it'll appear that ComicsGate failed, but then came roaring back the next year?

I agree measuring Comicsgate's success by year over year growth is arbitrary and stupid, yet it was not me who promoted this narrative to the CG audience. I believe it was Adam Post who stated that Comicsgate revenue in 2021 would hit 20 million dollars and there's no shortage of twitter pundits sharing spreadsheets and creatorgo earnings pinning the success of the movement on the yearly increases of revenue.

It wouldn't be impossible for Comicsgate to exceed the 6.7 million dollars it earnt in 2020, but it will largely depend on the big ticket books fulfilling in time for sequels to launch. Given the fragile nature of Comicsgater's to demoralize themselves with bad news, the outcome of the Waid lawsuit or the CG trademark dispute for example, such a shortfall could "shake investor confidence."

Personally I don't care whether the CG yearly revenue grows or declines from last year. I enjoy the salt, drama and tears just as much as the books, if not more.

 

[FROG]

Spectacular levels of retardation in the Liamite comments on that video. The view of these Liamites is that @FROG is a very terrible individual because he cancelled Liam for actual good reasons, which came from reality, instead of cancelling Nasser for disproven fabricated reasons that came from Liam's arse.

CG clearly had a strongly retarded element to it Frog, let's hope that this Liamite exodus acts as a kind of brain surgery on the collective CG unconscious, raising the painfully low IQ of the CG hive mind by siphoning the worst retards off to live in Liam's mud kingdom.

So much of the stress of being the "unwilling figurehead" of ComicsGate came from the endless conflict with WC elements, Doug TenNapel acolytes and Liam Gray types. The sigh of relief that comes from all of those retards being out of my field of view is wonderful. I feel like I'm breathing fresh air, and I can continue with CG.

Regarding burning Liam's comics, I can't believe anyone who is ComicsGate is reacting negatively to that. ComicsGate was founded on Better Men Than I destroying shitty comics on camera. That was a good deal of what was fun about Diversity & Comics. Burning comics is fun. Destroying SJW icon action figures is fun. It's lowbrow but cathartic.

For what it's worth, Liam can spin himself as my victim for whoever is still in denial about who he is and what he's been up to. I'm a "sadist" for cruelly burning his awful comic on camera so that Nasser could get $100 in super chats. Frankly, I really wanted a refund. The false DMCAs he fired at Nasser, Mike S Miller and Testefy were the last straw.

 

[A nameless trool]

So much of the stress of being the "unwilling figurehead" of ComicsGate came from the endless conflict with WC elements, Doug TenNapel acolytes and Liam Gray types. The sigh of relief that comes from all of those retards being out of my field of view is wonderful. I feel like I'm breathing fresh air, and I can continue with CG.

Regarding burning Liam's comics, I can't believe anyone who is ComicsGate is reacting negatively to that. ComicsGate was founded on Better Men Than I destroying shitty comics on camera. That was a good deal of what was fun about Diversity & Comics. Burning comics is fun. Destroying SJW icon action figures is fun. It's lowbrow but cathartic.

For what it's worth, Liam can spin himself as my victim for whoever is still in denial about who he is and what he's been up to. I'm a "sadist" for cruelly burning his awful comic on camera so that Nasser could get $100 in super chats. Frankly, I really wanted a refund. The false DMCAs he fired at Nasser, Mike S Miller and Testefy were the last straw.

I believe the trend wasstarted with Linkara, so the "Better Men Than" is a stretch...

 

[Pilule Noire]

Regarding burning Liam's comics, I can't believe anyone who is ComicsGate is reacting negatively to that. ComicsGate was founded on Better Men Than I destroying shitty comics on camera. That was a good deal of what was fun about Diversity & Comics. Burning comics is fun. Destroying SJW icon action figures is fun. It's lowbrow but cathartic.

And negativity for a troll is so delicious. You performed an exquisite, epic troll, one to remember and cherish forever. Be proud of yourself. It was the best CG burning yet! I loved the double-barrelled approach, you definitely annoyed Smiller too.

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

So much of the stress of being the "unwilling figurehead" of ComicsGate came from the endless conflict with WC elements, Doug TenNapel acolytes and Liam Gray types. The sigh of relief that comes from all of those retards being out of my field of view is wonderful. I feel like I'm breathing fresh air, and I can continue with CG.

Regarding burning Liam's comics, I can't believe anyone who is ComicsGate is reacting negatively to that. ComicsGate was founded on Better Men Than I destroying shitty comics on camera. That was a good deal of what was fun about Diversity & Comics. Burning comics is fun. Destroying SJW icon action figures is fun. It's lowbrow but cathartic.

For what it's worth, Liam can spin himself as my victim for whoever is still in denial about who he is and what he's been up to. I'm a "sadist" for cruelly burning his awful comic on camera so that Nasser could get $100 in super chats. Frankly, I really wanted a refund. The false DMCAs he fired at Nasser, Mike S Miller and Testefy were the last straw.

Nasser made 100+ dollars in superchats that stream.

Liam doesn't understand that he has made people so angry with him, they are willing to pay to see his work destroyed. (yet, it was hilarious getting the dig in on Mike S Miller at the same time)

 

[NasserRabadi13]

Nasser made 100+ dollars in superchats that stream.

$155.69 after YouTube takes their cut. I also went up 29 subs. Thank you @FROG

I guess liam is streaming with micah and beserk guts to "explain everything" and "clear his name" but it's just liam being vague all "I dunno why anyone hates me, I've done nothing but good, the truth will come out one day, stop lying about me guys"

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

$155.69 after YouTube takes their cut. I also went up 29 subs. Thank you @FROG

I guess liam is streaming with micah and beserk guts to "explain everything" and "clear his name" but it's just liam being vague all "I dunno why anyone hates me, I've done nothing but good, the truth will come out one day, stop lying about me guys"

Did he explain how he was honeypotted?

 

[NasserRabadi13]

Did he explain how he was honeypotted?

Not during the part I listened to. I listened to like 20 minutes then turned it off to write. But I wouldn't be surprised if he never explains it at all.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Did he explain how he was honeypotted?

No it was first about how he didn't remember who Nerd Wonder was, followed by explaining something about how she would unfollow him for criticizing Doug Ernst when he really meant Doug TenNapel, leaving him confused as to the status of the art commission. Then something about how the reason he wasn't posting the exonerating information was some sort of 4D chess move or whatever. Usual Liam stuff.

 

[Captain Manning]

Cecil's first campaign crushed all nine of Tim's IndieGoGo campaigns combined.

But Tim is achieving much of his success on KS. Not IGG.

If you just look at IGG numbers, you make the same mistake Liam did. I know you don't like KS, but money is money.

 

[FROG]

But Tim is achieving much of his success on KS. Not IGG.

If you just look at IGG numbers, you make the same mistake Liam did. I know you don't like KS, but money is money.

He's had 9 projects on IGG and earned $209K, and 4 projects on KS and earned $209K there as well.

$418,000 for 13 campaigns.

Cecil made $260K on his only campaign so far.

 

[Captain Manning]

He's had 9 projects on IGG and earned $209K, and 4 projects on KS and earned $209K there as well.

$418,000 for 13 campaigns.

Cecil made $260K on his only campaign so far.

I dunno why you would apply the extra division of separating out KS from IGG and counting them as separate campaigns. For example, to me, KA is three combined campaigns for three issues. KA3 hasn't hit IGG yet, either.

My point here is that I think it is feasible for Lim to eventually beat out everybody else in CG, sans yourself. The exponential growth he's experienced doesn't make that unreasonable. I predict that KA4, when it launches, would make six figures on KS alone. On KS, he went from 20k, to 66k, to 89k there. That's a good upward track.

 

[Newman's Own]

Joining the winning team IS self respect.

Sucking dick to sell funny books is not.

Zack doesn't livestream because he has social anxiety issues.

Zach hasn't liked what CG has become since 2018 or so. I barely watch his videos and I'm aware of this.

you were calling him a loser for ROCK N ROLL NINJA

I compared Meyer favorably with Clint Stoker. I'm actually one of the few Kiwis who didn't shit on Zach for his Rock n Roll Ninja idea.

Clint's work isn't bad really. It's just completely unremarkable and unoriginal. His style and craftsmanship doesn't make up for his lack of originality and he doesn't have the good sense to write something trashy and lurid to make up for any of his deficits.

At this point I'd say Meyer's writing is superior to Clint's in that Meyer is at least trying to be original (not always succeeding with it) and he's trashing it up with ninjas and cheesecake to make up for his deficits.

Meyer's writing may not be as "good" as Stoker's but it's definitely not as predictable and boring from what I've read.

But why bother with the truth?

As for JDA, he's finally figured out that not being hostile to the CG customer base is the best answer for selling his books.

JDA was never that hostile to CG customers. His problem was with you and your crew throwing him under a bus and signalling to the CG customer base that he was a problematic crypto white-nationalist with 'problematic associations to Vox Day'.

After you cancelled Jon his crowd funders languished for two years because he was the CG pariah you made him.

Jon having no dignity decided to tongue punch your fart box and see if it would get him back in your good graces so he could access a hint of your simp following and he "succeeded". Like Disney taking back James Gunn you took back JDA.

There is less than zero dignity in any of that.

But he did clear $5000 on his first day so I guess that makes him a winner.

he'd probably stumpgrind you for fifty cents

Most people would throw both of you into a woodchipper for five bucks. I'd do it for half that.

Are you dreaming about becoming a lumberjack, a serial killer or a lumber jack serial killer?

How gay are you?

If you don't like people making fun of you on the internet perhaps you should stick to safer spaces than Kiwi Farms. Scotto Pizza ranks #1 in Marlton on Trip Advisor. I don't know where it ranks on Grinder.

 

[FROG]

I dunno why you would apply the extra division of separating out KS from IGG and counting them as separate campaigns. For example, to me, KA is three combined campaigns for three issues. KA3 hasn't hit IGG yet, either.

My point here is that I think it is feasible for Lim to eventually beat out everybody else in CG, sans yourself. The exponential growth he's experienced doesn't make that unreasonable. I predict that KA4, when it launches, would make six figures on KS alone. On KS, he went from 20k, to 66k, to 89k there. That's a good upward track.

I think you're right about KAMEN 4 making 6 figures on KS. The upward track is pretty typical, though. Other CGers who are doing sequels will also experience the same growth. That's my prediction.