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Troon = trans loon
Actually troon was taken from the something awful forums where users are called goons. So troon = tranny goon.

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Yet another girl sucked in by the trans cult. And just like the others, she's so close to self awareness that she is indeed not trans. Hopefully she'll wake up in time before she gets on testosterone and gets her tits hacked off.
 
Another one of these sad stories:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TransyTalk/comments/lqinzo/i_dont_know_what_i_was_expecting_from_my_mom/(x)
Pretty typical, but it's a doubly sad because of the pointlessness of what this girl is doing. She is another case of "I want to be a man, but not actually in any meaningful sense."
This is her:
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She seems to be another feminine but autistic anime-obsessed girl who's fallen down the rabbit hole. Can't explain herself to her poor mother nor can she even explain her self to herself:
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"Need to feel masculine"? And yet you're wearing bright pink boots (with white love-hearts) and doing make-up? She probably at a gut level knows it doesn't really make sense, hence the "non binary guy" as opposed to just "trans guy." Trimming her sails a bit to make herself feel like less of an idiot.

I have to say the mom sounds really weird and I wouldn't be surprised if the dysphoria was stemming from that strained relationship. Pressuring your (possibly underage?) daughter to show off their body at the pool when they're not comfortable with doing so is honestly kind of creepy. If you're already uncomfortable with showing off your body and your mother is associating womanhood with exactly that, well... you probably would start to feel like you're not a woman.
 
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"[My wife] Lindsey fell pregnant in 2016 and gave birth to our little girl, Raelee. There was a fair amount of jealousy felt, as I was envious at how close Lindsey was able to be to Raelee during the pregnancy.

What kind of self-absored, narcissist gets jealous of their child having attention? Why couldn't he be more involved with their child? I feel so sorry for this girl. Her dad is an obvious textbook narcissistic AGP who needs to be told that he's wonderful and amazing every single day and because a toddler doesn't understand relationships and boundaries yet, she'll keep saying these things and it totally makes him feel validated™!
A common theory on why domestic violence escalates or even starts during pregnancy is that the man is literally jealous that the woman/baby are getting more attention. Similar vibes.
 
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"[My wife] Lindsey fell pregnant in 2016 and gave birth to our little girl, Raelee. There was a fair amount of jealousy felt, as I was envious at how close Lindsey was able to be to Raelee during the pregnancy.

What kind of self-absored, narcissist gets jealous of their child having attention? Why couldn't he be more involved with their child? I feel so sorry for this girl. Her dad is an obvious textbook narcissistic AGP who needs to be told that he's wonderful and amazing every single day and because a toddler doesn't understand relationships and boundaries yet, she'll keep saying these things and it totally makes him feel validated™!
I legitimately feel nauseous. This feels fucking incestuous and GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM THAT CHILD YOU NARCISSIST
 
anyone seen those jokes, or "arguments", that TRAs and allies make that go something like, "why would a man go through all that effort to pretend to be a trans woman and prey on women"? i don't even have to explain why this is dumb af... but i will anyway. a) men will do anything to prey on women if that's their goal. b) men don't have to do literally anything to claim trans status.
this reminds me of a tiktok i saw where a woman said she wanted to open a women’s gym. the comment section was full of pornsick moids saying they were going to ID as a trans woman to spy on women in the gym. i don’t think liberals understand the consequences of “respecting everyone’s identities” yet.
 
Blessed basedness.
Sad thing is the dude implied the trannies minding their business aren't the problem, it's the degens in dresses aka predatory men that might pose more than just a risk to adult women and the trans women as well.
-But this faggot still played the transphobia card. :story:

These pervs are gonna end up getting their asses beat in minecraft and it's going to be *chef's kiss*
 
And what kind of system facilitates or enables a child to lie her way to oblivion?

I'd throw it out there that lying to clinicians is often encouraged, especially in cases where the clinician is not believed to be so "enlightened." Moreover, even when lying is not explicitly encouraged, the spectre of rejection is always there to push a patient to distort their story to make it seem more acceptable and pure. And, there's no reason (in their mind) to be open to a therapist, since they know that they are 'trans' therefore clinicians are really just gate-keepers obstructing the realization of their "true" identities.
I have said this again in the *sigh* Rhys McKinnon thread - in clinical psychology, there is functionally zero need to differentiate whether the patient is "faking it".

The question really comes down to "why is it important?"

Keira Bell wanted to not have breasts. Keira Bell wanted to present as male. Nobody at the Tavistock bothered to ask the question "why?"

The idea that Keira Bell "lied" to her "therapist" is a tall fucking order. The "therapist" was the intake overseer at the Tavistock ready to rubberstamp T and boobchop, and all Keira did was to describe what she wanted at age 16.

The only fucked up thing here is how anyone expects a 16 year old to articulate a "gender identity" that 99% of the population cannot even conceive of.
I feel like your getting the most worst and extreme example to make your point

Again, I'm probably because of my lack of knowledge and bias, but are you sure doctors have that much of a hard time just replacing a vag with a dick and vice-versa?
I know you've since had a nice pile-on by others, but I want to add something (which I have actually said many pages back in this thread lol):

You may be aware that navels are commonly distinguished as "innies" or "outies", and that "innies" are overwhelmingly favoured.

We have been doing this for thousands of years. The average ob/gyn in their career does hundreds.

No one ever has been able to assure 100% the formation of an "innie" or an "outie". No one.

I ask you and all Kiwis to keep that in mind when judging the surgical results of fleshpoles and stinkditches.

Even further back in the thread, I had a spergfight with one or two other kiwis about neovaginas aka stinkditches, specifically the kind made with intestinal tissue.

I personally thought (and still maintain) they are pretty much the best you can have, as the intestinal mucous does a decent job of lubricating the penis skin inverted canal and keeping it clean, does not need to be hooked up to the spinal tendons to prevent prolapse, and also needs a much less rigorous dilation schedule.

The other kiwis were not having it.

It took me about 5 pages worth of spergfighting to realise that to the kiwis (and the average person), a stinkditch is always awful compared to a real vagina, specifically for sexual intercourse, while I thought it was great because I was comparing it to other neovagina creation methods, and fully knowing this is to alleviate body dysphoria, not to facilitate sexual intercourse and is not to be used for such.

A bit further from that spergfight but still quite a while back was what I consider the pinnacle of medical engineering, and what the kiwis dubbed "IKEA cunt".

"IKEA cunt" was an FTM who kept their fully functioning vagina, but cut up their labia minora to fashion into a ballsack that hung over their intact clitoris. The ballsacks contained fluid and tubing went up through a flesh pole sewn above the ballsack (presumably the skin was fashioned out of grafts from the inner thigh), such that when the troon pumped the left testicle, the penis would become erect.

Now I reckon this is a fucking marvel because I know for a fact that "normal" phalloplasty has a flexible wire that is inserted right through your body running parallel to the clitoris (some butchers stick it IN the clitoris and this causes permanent pain) and you bend that wire to make it "erect".

I can also understand that my opinions are pure lunacy to most people, who would much rather that fleshpole surgery did not happen at all.

I also accept all the negative ratings just for necroing IKEA cunt from the depths.
 
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She seems to be another feminine but autistic anime-obsessed girl who's fallen down the rabbit hole. Can't explain herself to her poor mother nor can she even explain her self to herself:
Man, some days I come to this thread to have a laugh at delusional troonsbians and fujos but... These types of girls really break my heart.

I used to be this girl when I was a teenager. Hated girly shit. Hated showing my body. Massive dyke. Had a very similar argument with my mother about wearing trunks instead of bikini bottoms. Had and still have the 'tism so female social norms/expectations made no sense to me. Heavily relied on the internet for social interactions because again, 'tism. Luckily troon/nb didn't start getting popular until I was already out of that vulnerable place. Surprise surprise, I grew up to be a normal lesbian who likes practical clothes! No tit-chop or franken-dick required!
 
It's the trans community that tells kids to lie to their therapists. It's the trans community that tells people that if they are even thinking they might be trans, then they're trans. It's the trans community that tells people that if they don't go on hormones, they'll be miserable until they do.

I highly doubt anyone would lie to a therapist about wanting her boobs off and then keep the lie going until after surgery. That's excessive, even for mental illness.
 
It's the trans community that tells kids to lie to their therapists. It's the trans community that tells people that if they are even thinking they might be trans, then they're trans. It's the trans community that tells people that if they don't go on hormones, they'll be miserable until they do.

I highly doubt anyone would lie to a therapist about wanting her boobs off and then keep the lie going until after surgery. That's excessive, even for mental illness.
That's what happen when you don't think for yourself, don't be surprised that you're being played and you end up on the 41% statistic.
 
That's what happen when you don't think for yourself, don't be surprised that you're being played and you end up on the 41% statistic.
I don't think children should be expected to "think for themselves".

I have zero sympathy to the midlife crisis trooners, but holy shit the child grooming then turning around and victim blaming the child is atrocious.
 
I have to say the mom sounds really weird and I wouldn't be surprised if the dysphoria was stemming from that strained relationship. Pressuring your (possibly underage?) daughter to show off their body at the pool when they're not comfortable with doing so is honestly kind of creepy. If you're already uncomfortable with showing off your body and your mother is associating womanhood with exactly that, well... you probably would start to feel like you're not a woman.
This honestly depends on many aspects that are impossible to say from an internet post, especially one that is from very biased source. Tone, what exactly the clothes were, general relationship, what was going on in life and so on. Encouraging a teen to showing off body can be creepy but it can also be positive tool to learn love yourself. Most teenagers feel awkward and ugly in some point of their puberty and this insecurity can spill well beyond looks and negatively affect social life and general confidence. I know many girls that were helped by a relative or a friend that got them dress nice and with their body. Even gorgeous people can look bad in wrong clothes and most people aren't naturally that impressive. Looking nice is a skill and when you learn it, it can be really helpful and useful because it's part of nonverbal communication.
 
So I was looking at one of ContraPoints' tweets yesterday, and saw this reply from someone who's apparently a lesbian.
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But immediately I asked myself, "Hm, is this an actual woman or just a male fetishist? Given that this is in reply to one of the most popular trans influencers, the likelihood of it being a male fetishist is pretty high."

So I bothered to check and lo and behold...

Trans? Check.
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Overbearing lesbian fetish? Check.
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AGP? Check.
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Just the fact that you find these people so easily in "LGBT-positive spaces" nowadays proves that we have a massive fucking problem. If you're someone reading/lurking this thread who feels like people are exaggerating how bad the trans movement is, trust me, I used to think that too. But like I said, these people are everywhere. Everywhere. They're not hard to find at all. So feel free to come to the darkness anytime you like, my child. It's not at all unwarranted in this day and age.
 
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