Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[petite]

Lena Hallengren 2020:
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Lena Hallengren 2021:
https://twitter.com/susannasilfver/status/1364917840097275904
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they are backtracking so hard it's hilarious, and it's entirely unnecessary as statistics clearly show we are not worse off than other countries who completely obliterated their economy. in fact we were BETTER off in the summer and most likely will be this summer as well.

just falling to the pressure of the EU. if the big dogs have failed (germany, france) we must fail as well otherwise it will embarrass them and make their incompetence even more obvious by comparison.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

In the general population, BMI actually has the opposite problem; it actually UNDERESTIMATES obesity (i.e. there are more people obese by body fat percentage than have BMI over 30). As it turns out, most of the country has very little muscle mass.

Yeah, I was just throwing that out as an example (its an applicable example to tall skinny guys who BMI says
are overweight).
My point was that individually BMI is a "close enough" gage, unless you know yourself to be in the obvious outgroup - while statistically its bad to measure it in the context of entire populations.

Did the Super Bowl cause a spike in Florida’s COVID-19 cases? Health experts say not yet

It's nearly two and a half weeks post-Super Bowl and everyone wants to know the answer – did Florida see a COVID spike?

www.fox13news.com

LOL forever. Move. To. Florida.

"It didn't cause a spike because of the precautions they took!"

So it turns out grandma apparently had the coof already, but didn't know until she went to a medic today. Her bone pain is not because she's old, it's the "long covid" that's causing it! Even though she's had it FOR YEARS, nah, blame it on covid! And she believes it...

New Symptom of COVID-19: Time Travel

America deserves the china virus. I said this way back in 2020, and I'll say it again.

Its not the virus we needed, but its the one we deserved.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I hope after all this is over there is a serious overhaul of state governor's emergency powers. It's insane that they're virtually unlimited and not even the courts can overturn them. Even the president doesn't have that kind of power.

A MAJOR overhaul. I hope kids mock this shit when they get older

 

[Return of the Freaker]

A MAJOR overhaul. I hope kids mock this shit when they get older

I think the powers that be are doing a great job at raising a stunted, paranoid, timid generation that won't be able to function without directives from a strong authority figure and won't ask questions.

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

Ran into something kind of interesting and useful yesterday trying to explain PCR cycle counts to a relative. If you try to look up how cycle counts work on Google regardless of what phrasing you use there aren't any real results. Switching to DuckDuckGo immediately provides lots of articles and medical sites explaining pcr in detail as well as results correlating the cycle decrease with the test positives dropping.

I mention this because it's a completely non-political issue you can use to point out Google's fuckery to people who are unaware of it and try to keep up with the news.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Eviction moratorium just got ruled unconstitutional. Reddit Commies and doomers on fucking suicide watch.

If they are still working they can donate all of their stimulus checks to help pay for another person's rent.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Ran into something kind of interesting and useful yesterday trying to explain PCR cycle counts to a relative. If you try to look up how cycle counts work on Google regardless of what phrasing you use there aren't any real results. Switching to DuckDuckGo immediately provides lots of articles and medical sites explaining pcr in detail as well as results correlating the cycle decrease with the test positives dropping.

I mention this because it's a completely non-political issue you can use to point out Google's fuckery to people who are unaware of it and try to keep up with the news.

This is what I get from google as my top 3 results when searching for "PCR cycle threshold"

Op-Ed: Why PCR Cycle Threshold Is Useful in Coronavirus Testing

It can help better triage patients, physician argues

www.medpagetoday.com

SARS-CoV-2 Cycle Threshold: A Metric That Matters (or Not) | AACC.org

The cycle threshold (Ct) in reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) SARS-CoV-2 tests is gaining currency as a potential marker for severe disease in patients with COVID-19 illness. Amid mounting evidence in the clinical literature, however, some in the laboratory community are...

www.aacc.org

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926410/Understanding_Cycle_Threshold__Ct__in_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf

The first result from google is an opED.

Vs. Duckduckgo

https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests

What Is A Cycle Threshold (Ct) Value In qPCR?

In this article, I will explain what a Ct value in quantification (real-time) PCR (qPCR). I will also discuss the difference between Ct and Cq values.

toptipbio.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1Z8cSXI-Q

Edit: this video is quite good.

The first link from duck duck go is very helpful, and they have a nice graph describing that a positive test result doesn't guarantee the person is infectious, and they compare it with confirmed infectious cell cultures. They link to a study as well. I found the google results difficult to understand.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

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I took my first glance at the reddit covid subs since the summer, and a bunch of redditor cucks are saying "I want the fancy Pfizer/Moderna ones!" Is the difference between them that significant or is it just reddit being a hellscape of retardation?

Regardless, not getting it unless universities are opening completely, mask bullshit ends, and it's a requirement. Then I'll think about it.

 

[NJBear]

 

[spinal gas chamber]

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Allahdamnit, where’s the right rating?

 

[Disheveled Human]

I took my first glance at the reddit covid subs since the summer, and a bunch of redditor cucks are saying "I want the fancy Pfizer/Moderna ones!" Is the difference between them that significant or is it just reddit being a hellscape of retardation?

Regardless, not getting it unless universities are opening completely, mask bullshit ends, and it's a requirement. Then I'll think about it.

I want the Pfizer ones because that is the jab they gave all the health care workers. Do you want the cheapo ones they are handing out to third world nations like Africa sinovac comes to mind?

 

[Wormy]

Can't wait until the 2021-22 flu season is the "worst in decades" and "dangerous strain" and we have to SHUT IT DOWN TO SAVE GRANDMA because all the old people who normally get flu shots don't and are now dying. To my knowledge this is why the 2017-18 flu season was so bad--they fucked up with the vaccine and it didn't give immunity against the dominant strain that year, so a lot more people died than normal.

*SHRUG* Despite all the predictions, my libtard governor in my blue state has
-never closed schools
-lifted all restrictions on venue sizes and gatherings
-lifted what few curfews there had been in a couple of spots
-had a mask mandate but noone enforces it and noone cares.

Get a U-Haul and find a better state if you're that scared.

 

[Bakarina]

Can't wait until the 2021-22 flu season is the "worst in decades" and "dangerous strain" and we have to SHUT IT DOWN TO SAVE GRANDMA because all the old people who normally get flu shots don't and are now dying. To my knowledge this is why the 2017-18 flu season was so bad--they fucked up with the vaccine and it didn't give immunity against the dominant strain that year, so a lot more people died than normal.

More or less, yes. The flu shot is guestimate work based on previous years strain. Flu A and Flu B are typically the only strains that you get vaccinated against because they're the most common but the estimates were off and so what they thought were the A and B strains of that year ended up not being the case.

I don't get the flu shot because it gives me cardiac episodes and I already have a family history of heart disease without any potential assistance from a vaccine.

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

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Alright, guys, just a quick reminder that if you don't let doctors finger your kid's assholes, you want grandmas to die. This crisis could have been averted if you all just quintuple masked, the way you were told to a year ago smh

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

America first always wins baby, CPAC btfo

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/nicholas-j-fuentes-america-first-nick-the-knife.64977/

 

[Aib Ld]

I think the powers that be are doing a great job at raising a stunted, paranoid, timid generation that won't be able to function without directives from a strong authority figure and won't ask questions.

Which will bite the powers on the ass when the people need to be used for something like war or a small attack plus with even more stunted kids from that generation and so on. They really didn't think things through on their need for power.

EDIT, forgot to add: Cousin is moving to New York City next month for his job. He didn't go this month because he unknowingly had wuflu but recovered, but had to take the vaccine anyway. How is New York nowadays?

 

[Carnavoyeur]

I took my first glance at the reddit covid subs since the summer, and a bunch of redditor cucks are saying "I want the fancy Pfizer/Moderna ones!" Is the difference between them that significant or is it just reddit being a hellscape of retardation?

Regardless, not getting it unless universities are opening completely, mask bullshit ends, and it's a requirement. Then I'll think about it.

The Pfizer vaccine is apparently 95% effective, Moderna is 94.1% effective. Israel is leading the way in vaccinations (like 35% of the population has been vaccinated) using the Pfizer vaccine and thus far it's showing efficacy at preventing both severe disease and transmission.

Pfizer and Moderna are currently the only ones approved for emergency use in the US. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is close but people (redditors/doomers) are wary because South Africa halted their trials with J&J because it wasn't effective enough. J&J's efficacy is around 60-85%.

I think what everyone--whether you trust vaccines, COVID or otherwise, or not--needs to remember is that no vaccine is 100% effective in terms of preventing disease. People seem to think that vaccines are supposed to be a magic bullet that will miraculously eradicate disease. We got lucky with smallpox, but that still took a vaccination campaign of about 20-something years before it was eradicated in the wild. Even going back to the origins of vaccination, which started with smallpox (vaccine comes from "vacca" for "cow" because people who got cowpox didn't get smallpox) the whole point was "you got this mild disease, and as a result didn't get this deadly disease".

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

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So literal anal rape of children?

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

I hope after all this is over there is a serious overhaul of state governor's emergency powers. It's insane that they're virtually unlimited and not even the courts can overturn them. Even the president doesn't have that kind of power.

Michigan's Republican-controlled legislature has considered bills that would curtail emergency powers, but Governor Whitmer would simply veto any such bill that got passed and the Republican majorities are such that they lack the numbers to override anything she vetoes.

For the Dems collectively bouncing and squeaking about Trump behaving like a dictator when he was in office, Whitmer (and probably several other Democratic governors) have acted far more that way than he did.