Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Rungle]

I used to be in two communities, The SiIvagunner community and the SS13 Community; both were tainted by trannies.
I used to be very open-minded about sex changes and heavy body modifications. Still, after seeing both of the communities ruined by PC going too far by tranny Gestapo's, I've realized that these people really have a fucking problem with not having reality their way.
Both communities have I encountered dealt with the same problems when trannies infested it.
Trannies get power, or a moderator troons out.
They will bitch about everything you do at first, for example, vocabulary, old jokes you used to make but isn't deemed alright by them anymore, the things you like.
Then they will slowly start calling people out who threaten their illusion of perfect reality, where they will force you to use the right pronouns or else you're labeled a bigot/nazi.
After all that, they asserted dominance over the community, they will go full wrong think banning spree.
'If you disagree with me, you get the fuck out of my sight because you are wrong,' that kind of mentality is something I despise, yet every tranny, it doesn't matter what community you are in, will think like this, that's why I left both.
I refuse to play pretend. I used to be in a terrible household with my mother and had to act as I agreed with her to avoid her anger outbursts. The internet was the only safe space I could be honest with my opinions.
I will not be forced to play pretend with some mentally ill figure again, not in real life nor on the internet.
If someone cuts off their arm, they are considered insane, but if someone wants to cut off their sex organs and pretend they are the opposite sex, they are stunning and brave?
Give me a fucking break.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Someone in my extended social circle came out as trans not long after they were accused by several women of being a rapist.

Ah yes, the Kevin Spacey defense.

Female autist who can't socialise with other female autists here

While the loss of tomboys and lesbians is an issue, I feel like a big loss not being talked about is autistic women's spaces. Legitimately a problem since autism/aspergers & other cognative conditions are underdiagnosed in women so women who don't know they're autistic might copy their friend's transition because "hey you're like me and you seem happier therefore it will make me happier" (tbf this happens with nonautistic transitioners too), and you have less people to talk about things with. Sperging about your special intereest is fun, but always interrupting with your other special interest (gender) or derailing the chat with it really alienates women from an already small community. Sorry about your tism social circle, its really nice to have people of your gender go through the same struggles you go through and then this shit coming in to derail bites.

I refuse to play pretend. I used to be in a terrible household with my mother and had to act as I agreed with her to avoid her anger outbursts. The internet was the only safe space I could be honest with my opinions.
I will not be forced to play pretend with some mentally ill figure again, not in real life nor on the internet.

I went through something similar so I honestly am feeling you and am fucking glad for you not giving into being in groups like that. Fuck and yeah, brother.

I remember a lot of talk on "how do we avoid troons becoming destructive in our community projects" in the HoI4 modding community thread. Its interesting to see what people come up withm

 

[Ethereal Eye]

Oh man, this thread really hurts to read. Ill share a story of mine:

I knew some girl from a quiz website I would frequent, I think it was Quotev or some shit? But anyway, we had a 2-3 year friendship that was on and off, and at some point, she ended up e-dating someone she thought was actually a dude, but ended up being a fullblown troon. This understandably shocked her, but for some reason she wouldn't let go of said troon despite the lying and deception. In fact, she would become buddy-buddy with the troon, and I noticed how she gradually started to become more knee-deep into LGBT stuff while spending less time with me and more time with troon. At some point, we stopped talking as often and I started to get agitated, wondering what was wrong, and she kept giving me the cold shoulder. We used to play Roblox together, and when I checked her character years later, I notice that her character is dressed as a man with a full on beard, is in a variety of pro-LGBT groups, and even her best friend is suddenly a bisexual dating a girl. I connected the pieces and gave up. Its like seeing spiritual destruction before your eyes.

 

[SheerHeartAttack]

I recently learned an exfriend of mine trooned out and looks like a melted goth caricature. Honestly he became incredibly insufferable before he trooned out, mostly because he turned into a giant moralfag that tried accusing a friend of mine of racism to me for the tiniest fucking thing, and then pulled out some crap about being concerned about him when I called him out it. That's about when I stopped talking to him and he pretty much hangs around a completely different group of people these days.

The other two troons I'm really aware of were two weebs that became trannies during highschool. One of them essentially spends all of his time in VR chat with his e-girlfriend larping as a big titty anime girl.

The other one I'm convinced got brainrot from moeblob yuri anime and became a troon to be like them. This guy basically ruined a discord server I used to frequent in highschool with him and his twitter fag friend's constant moral fagging and essentially adopted whatever retarded opinions were popular on twitter. Including how big anime tits are bad because muh back pain, and then jerked off about whatever jap loli character he was fapping to that moment. The last pic I saw of him essentially looked like a slightly skinnier comic book guy without the beard.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I honestly could care less if everyone i ever knew decided to crossdress tomorrow all at the same time but it sucks people can't seem to keep a level headed attitude when it comes to their life choices, it doesn't matter if they get into veganism, fitness or HRT, is not annoying for me to deal with the aesthetic changes, is annoying because they try to suddenly pull a complete personality reversal that everyone knows is fake as fuck and a big larp, cool you are dressed as a lady now (or dude if you are a fujoshi ) but don't pretend like putting on a different outfit suddenly made you a whole different person and suddenly you are a walking PSA for whatever kool aid you just drank.

 

[Kane Lives]

I honestly could care less if everyone i ever knew decided to crossdress tomorrow all at the same time but it sucks people can't seem to keep a level headed attitude when it comes to their life choices, it doesn't matter if they get into veganism, fitness or HRT, is not annoying for me to deal with the aesthetic changes, is annoying because they try to suddenly pull a complete personality reversal that everyone knows is fake as fuck and a big larp, cool you are dressed as a lady now (or dude if you are a fujoshi ) but don't pretend like putting on a different outfit suddenly made you a whole different person and suddenly you are a walking PSA for whatever kool aid you just drank.

That really is the thing, isn't it? I bet half of the posters in this thread wouldn't care about people trooning out if they didn't also become insufferable dolts in the process.

Sticking to the topic, I know of half a dozen people in my online friend circles who trooned out, and let's just say they're not missed. The only weird part is that the first two I know who trooned out basically did so before the great trooning of 2016, and so actually before the zeitgeist of transtrenderism. The personality changes are the same though. They went from relatively chill people, to useless lumps of lazy gits who blamed everything else for their issues and probably lost their jobs/education in the process.

 

[Niggernerd]

Had a friend who I basically knew since the beginning, he’s always had a bit of a limp wrist and would act stereotypically gay in some ways e.g. he would go to the spa for manicures, wore skinny jeans and v necks, you know you usual gay stuff. Well he goes off to college, I lost contact with him because he got a new phone, I finally get in contact with him and I decide to hang out with him one day. When I finally see him in person he’s wearing high heels a skirt and a shitty wig. I make a joke saying “Fresh off of ru Paul’s loser bracket” and he goes on this spiel about how “this is who he really is” and how he’s no longer he but a non binary “them” I joke again because that’s what friends do and say “keep that up and you’ll be called thing and not them”. He flips out calling me transphobic and talks about how he thought I would support him, how I’m a shitty friend (I’ve always had his back when he caught shit for being gay) and now he won’t talk to me. Found out he’s on estrogen now through a Facebook post and told his parents so they hopefully can get through to him. Sucks to see my friend gone to a dick mutilation cult and now a humorless, angry, freak because he got convinced he was a “them” and not just plain gay.

It's become olympics with these people. Gays/lesbians/metro/tomboy is all but fading as the days go by. Now its all about being trans for those 200 oppression points.
Its a sad state when you have people you love who you try to support because they have so many problems but then they decide "i am troon!" And it just goes downhill from there. Walking on eggshells is such a shitty feeling and the best way i can describe it is claustrophobic.
Appeasement can only go so far, they expect you to go all the way with them but never take into account how others WHO CARE ABOUT THEM feel about it.

Troons always end up being the most selfish people and only being generous to the same mentally ill tards.

 

[The Great Chandler]

They're all SJW trannies who've spent so long marinating on Twitter and Tumblr that they've convinced themselves that they live on the other side of the world in 'murica. Ask them what's going on in their own fucking country and they look at you like you've grown a second head.

I know it's a bit off-topic, but it's ridiculous when foreigners go Ameri-centric about their politics. Like why are you so concerned about my own country? Just because we're the sole superpower, doesn't mean we directly control your policies dammit!

 

[Carlito]

Spoiler: Massive fucking powerlevel abound

This is not exactly losing someone to a troon-out, but bear with it.

About a year ago my younger brother (FtM), whom I shall call John, was sent to the hospital via ambulance because of his school chimping out on him for a reason I never learnt. I had known about the 42%, gender dysphoria's state as a mental illness and everything else that had to do with troons and trannies, so suffice to say I was deeply surprised when John was sent into the psych ward. While in reality he was not kept there for long, it felt like an eternity. Throughout this all, one question was weighing on my mind even as I shat the shit with my friends -- "Why?"

Even when John came back home, this question lingered. I researched as much as I could on the likelihood that this was a phase or a ruse. It was both this and gender dysphoria being a mental illness that I wanted him to be who he used to be. Now, I have come to accept it due to it having gone unhindered for a year. He has had no slip-ups via referring to himself by his deadname or as a girl.

The first few months of him being back home were awkward but we got used to the new order. Since then, I have grown much closer to him. He had a co-diagnosis with depression which he and my mother believe is bullshit -- I disagree though as many depressed actively deny being depressed -- and he supposedly has been seeing and hearing (according to him, all positive) things that would not be atypical of schizophrenia or some other disorder. I doubt he knows it, but as the percentages stacked up I realized that his likelihood to attempt joining the 42% are becoming more of a reality. It has come to the point that I just regard it as an inevitability. I have been spending as much time as I can with him so that whatever time we have left will not be wasted. I just fear what will happen when he necks himself.

My parents still care for John and as he is a minor they will not be allowing him to undergo hormones or therapy, and he has remained a chill person who can joke about being a tranny, so at least there are a couple silver linings to what my family is in now.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Spoiler: Massive fucking powerlevel abound

This is not exactly losing someone to a troon-out, but bear with it.

About a year ago my younger brother (FtM), whom I shall call John, was sent to the hospital via ambulance because of his school chimping out on him for a reason I never learnt. I had known about the 42%, gender dysphoria's state as a mental illness and everything else that had to do with troons and trannies, so suffice to say I was deeply surprised when John was sent into the psych ward. While in reality he was not kept there for long, it felt like an eternity. Throughout this all, one question was weighing on my mind even as I shat the shit with my friends -- "Why?"

Even when John came back home, this question lingered. I researched as much as I could on the likelihood that this was a phase or a ruse. It was both this and gender dysphoria being a mental illness that I wanted him to be who he used to be. Now, I have come to accept it due to it having gone unhindered for a year. He has had no slip-ups via referring to himself by his deadname or as a girl.

The first few months of him being back home were awkward but we got used to the new order. Since then, I have grown much closer to him. He had a co-diagnosis with depression which he and my mother believe is bullshit -- I disagree though as many depressed actively deny being depressed -- and he supposedly has been seeing and hearing (according to him, all positive) things that would not be atypical of schizophrenia or some other disorder. I doubt he knows it, but as the percentages stacked up I realized that his likelihood to attempt joining the 42% are becoming more of a reality. It has come to the point that I just regard it as an inevitability. I have been spending as much time as I can with him so that whatever time we have left will not be wasted. I just fear what will happen when he necks himself.

My parents still care for John and as he is a minor they will not be allowing him to undergo hormones or therapy, and he has remained a chill person who can joke about being a tranny, so at least there are a couple silver linings to what my family is in now.

Damn...

At least he's chill with it, unlike most of what we covered. I wish you guys well my dude!

 

[Carlito]

Damn...

At least he's chill with it, unlike most of what we covered. I wish you guys well my dude!

Thanks man. If he's as genuine as he seems to be, then getting HRT and SRS when he's of age should help immeasurably. We'll have to see, so fingers crossed.

 

[bored loser]

I hate how I have to spend days or weeks training myself to think of them as their "correct gender and name" once they come out, even if so far all they've done is wear a skirt for the first time. Like, I put in a shit ton of work because if I don't, then I'll get my life ruined by the wokesters for misgendering a poor trans person. But they don't have to do a single thing.

Anyways, this is just a rant because I'm sick of having to learn a new set of pronouns for every person I know. I am now currently trying to train myself to forget 15 years of history with my best friend because she got up and legally changed her name and started on testosterone. Any mention of the past leads to something about how that was "before her egg cracked" and therefore should be ignored and forgotten. Hooray. Love this world.

 

[Bosmadden]

I hate how I have to spend days or weeks training myself to think of them as their "correct gender and name" once they come out, even if so far all they've done is wear a skirt for the first time. Like, I put in a shit ton of work because if I don't, then I'll get my life ruined by the wokesters for misgendering a poor trans person. But they don't have to do a single thing.

Anyways, this is just a rant because I'm sick of having to learn a new set of pronouns for every person I know. I am now currently trying to train myself to forget 15 years of history with my best friend because she got up and legally changed her name and started on testosterone. Any mention of the past leads to something about how that was "before her egg cracked" and therefore should be ignored and forgotten. Hooray. Love this world.

You'd do well to get the fuck away from your friend. It's not just that she's a mentally ill troon, it's that she will absolutely 100% seek to rope you into her insanity and if you refuse, destroy your life.

You don't have to engage with this person, you're choosing to. She's already asking you to lie and affirm her fantasy, and you're doing it, even though you've come on here to bitch about it.

She will continue to spiral and escalate, that's guaranteed. And unlike other forms of delusional lunacy this woman is affirmed and encouraged by the wider society, so there's really no hope that she'll pull back.

You want to put yourself through years of stress? Being bullied into agreeing with the ramblings of a literal lunatic? Go right ahead, but it won't end well for you.

 

[round robin]

I hate how I have to spend days or weeks training myself to think of them as their "correct gender and name" once they come out, even if so far all they've done is wear a skirt for the first time. Like, I put in a shit ton of work because if I don't, then I'll get my life ruined by the wokesters for misgendering a poor trans person. But they don't have to do a single thing.

Anyways, this is just a rant because I'm sick of having to learn a new set of pronouns for every person I know. I am now currently trying to train myself to forget 15 years of history with my best friend because she got up and legally changed her name and started on testosterone. Any mention of the past leads to something about how that was "before her egg cracked" and therefore should be ignored and forgotten. Hooray. Love this world.

This is what I really hate about troons. They act like their decision is entirely personal and doesn't affect anyone else, but it absolutely does. People who have known the troon for their entire life are expected to forget everything they know about this person and memorize a new set of arbitrary rules in engaging with them.

In a lot of ways I consider trooning out comparable to suicide. They are both cowardly acts committed by broken people that think there's no other choice and they both kill someone who couldn't figure out how to love themself as they are. They also both affect loved ones who will feel betrayed and confused because someone they love was taken from them for unfair reasons. The difference with troons is that the "dead" person is now walking around as a strange sex-addicted zombie that pretends it was never the person you loved in the first place.

 

[bored loser]

You'd do well to get the fuck away from your friend. It's not just that she's a mentally ill troon, it's that she will absolutely 100% seek to rope you into her insanity and if you refuse, destroy your life.

You don't have to engage with this person, you're choosing to. She's already asking you to lie and affirm her fantasy, and you're doing it, even though you've come on here to bitch about it.

She will continue to spiral and escalate, that's guaranteed. And unlike other forms of delusional lunacy this woman is affirmed and encouraged by the wider society, so there's really no hope that she'll pull back.

You want to put yourself through years of stress? Being bullied into agreeing with the ramblings of a literal lunatic? Go right ahead, but it won't end well for you.

Yeah, I've kinda stepped back but I still have her on Fb. I'm hoping she doesn't notice I didn't like her post about her name change. It would be a very classic trans thing to scour through the likes and comments on the posts to make sure everyone is supportive.

It sucks because I've known her for almost my entire life and she's basically the only person I've ever truly connected with (as I'm very mentally ill and a Twitter account away from my own thread on this site). It's hard to let the friendship go. My mom used to say that she's the type of friend I'd keep for my entire life.

It's so hard to accept that the friendship is basically over. I know, logically, that you're correct and it will keep escalating (especially as she's gone this far), but I hold out hope for a desist or detransition, as I did when I thought I was trans. I did not go nearly this far, though. But a small part of me is praying.

This is what I really hate about troons. They act like their decision is entirely personal and doesn't affect anyone else, but it absolutely does. People who have known the troon for their entire life are expected to forget everything they know about this person and memorize a new set of arbitrary rules in engaging with the.

Yeah, and even mentioning that it could be hard on others to immediately switch pronouns is grounds to get yelled at. I know one who cut off his parents because they were still misgendering him.... One week after coming out.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Never been happier to live in a third world shithole where the alphabet freak show is regularly punished by the law. You guys are so pathetic "muh gays and lesbos they are so awesome unlike trannies" they are the same illness no different then trannys, furrys and pedos.

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

Reading this thread makes me feel thankful that only a small handful of IRL people I know trooned out, and none of them were actual friends of mine (think former classmates that I never talked to, or friends-of-friends). I don't wanna powerlevel too much, so here's my experience with a particular tranny:

An awkward weeb at my high school became a poorly-convincing FtM tranny after graduation. When I say "poorly", think low effort like short hair, breast-binding, and telling everyone she's now a he -- but not actually taking testosterone nor growing facial hair as far as I know. I never really hung out with her in high school, since she was kinda a quiet and unattractive nerd girl who hung out with anime fans and fat gamers with cat ears, whilst I mainly hung out with skaters and punks. We graduated high school in the mid-2000's, so LONG before the SJW revolution in modern times. Back when Facebook was college exclusive, I made a FB profile way back in the early days (think 2005-06) when I was a college student. I got a friend request from someone I didn't recognize, but they had a male name. Their main profile picture was some anime character, but after reading their profile I eventually put 2 and 2 together and realized this was that weeb girl from high school...only now she had a dude's name and listed her profile as male. Flash forward a few weeks later and I saw her/him at a party on campus, and he/she was going out of his/her way to remind everyone that they're now male, but they kept getting mocked. I asked one of our mutual friends what the fuck their problem is, and they explained to me that now he/she thinks they're male for some reason, and we just have to accept it. The real kicker was now he/she also had a romantic partner -- and wait for it -- their new partner was a MtF tranny who still looked and acted like a regular man -- and he told people she/he believes she/he's actually a woman who has the body of a man, but the internal woman is also transgender, which causes them to still look/act masculine. Basically, they were multiple layers of transgenderism within transgenderism.

 

[Odnovo]

Reading this thread makes me feel thankful that only a small handful of IRL people I know trooned out, and none of them were actual friends of mine (think former classmates that I never talked to, or friends-of-friends). I don't wanna powerlevel too much, so here's my experience with a particular tranny:

An awkward weeb at my high school became a poorly-convincing FtM tranny after graduation. When I say "poorly", think low effort like short hair, breast-binding, and telling everyone she's now a he -- but not actually taking testosterone nor growing facial hair as far as I know. I never really hung out with her in high school, since she was kinda a quiet and unattractive nerd girl who hung out with anime fans and fat gamers with cat ears, whilst I mainly hung out with skaters and punks. We graduated high school in the mid-2000's, so LONG before the SJW revolution in modern times. Back when Facebook was college exclusive, I made a FB profile way back in the early days (think 2005-06) when I was a college student. I got a friend request from someone I didn't recognize, but they had a male name. Their main profile picture was some anime character, but after reading their profile I eventually put 2 and 2 together and realized this was that weeb girl from high school...only now she had a dude's name and listed her profile as male. Flash forward a few weeks later and I saw her/him at a party on campus, and he/she was going out of his/her way to remind everyone that they're now male, but they kept getting mocked. I asked one of our mutual friends what the fuck their problem is, and they explained to me that now he/she thinks they're male for some reason, and we just have to accept it. The real kicker was now he/she also had a romantic partner -- and wait for it -- their new partner was a MtF tranny who still looked and acted like a regular man -- and he told people she/he believes she/he's actually a woman who has the body of a man, but the internal woman is also transgender, which causes them to still look/act masculine. Basically, they were multiple layers of transgenderism within transgenderism.

Do you know how they have turned out? She "transitioned" long before it was popular among socially marginalized young girls and when there was still a modicum of realistic animosity and discrimination towards troons, so it would be interesting to find out how this person is doing now, especially since the 10s was a real boon for troons.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

Do you know how they have turned out? She "transitioned" long before it was popular among socially marginalized young girls and when there was still a modicum of realistic animosity and discrimination towards troons, so it would be interesting to find out how this person is doing now, especially since the 10s was a real boon for troons.

To be honest, I don't know what happened to them since then, nor do I even know if they got a new name or whatever. I moved to a new state after college and I deleted my original FB profile (the one I use now is tightly-knit and exclusive to my close friends and family). I just used that particular FtM tranny as an example because she/he's one of the few that I can talk about personally based on experience; almost every other tranny I ever met was someone I met after they "transitioned" and I didn't know them in any way -- think going to parties or events and getting introduced to an ugly woman who I immediately realize is obviously a man, and after the party I started laughing behind their back much to the chagrin to my friends who invited me there.

Honestly, I've seen so few people IRL "troon out" -- BUT, however -- I've seen a considerable amount of people come out as gay. Like a lot. As in, successful, preppy "alpha" types in high school, and a few years after graduation I'd look them up and see their FB profile is them kissing another man at a wedding alter. Or, I've seen a few girls who otherwise appeared normal and attractive to me in school were now hideous turbo dykes and posting tiresome LGBTBBQ+ shit on social media all day.

 

[Bosmadden]

To be honest, I don't know what happened to them since then, nor do I even know if they got a new name or whatever. I moved to a new state after college and I deleted my original FB profile (the one I use now is tightly-knit and exclusive to my close friends and family). I just used that particular FtM tranny as an example because she/he's one of the few that I can talk about personally based on experience; almost every other tranny I ever met was someone I met after they "transitioned" and I didn't know them in any way -- think going to parties or events and getting introduced to an ugly woman who I immediately realize is obviously a man, and after the party I started laughing behind their back much to the chagrin to my friends who invited me there.

Honestly, I've seen so few people IRL "troon out" -- BUT, however -- I've seen a considerable amount of people come out as gay. Like a lot. As in, successful, preppy "alpha" types in high school, and a few years after graduation I'd look them up and see their FB profile is them kissing another man at a wedding alter. Or, I've seen a few girls who otherwise appeared normal and attractive to me in school were now hideous turbo dykes and posting tiresome LGBTBBQ+ shit on social media all day.

It confirms that homosexuality is a learned behaviour. You meet the odd sissy who's been a confirmed faggot since infancy, but the majority of the queers I know came out after seeming to be total normies.

An example is a girl I used to date back in my single days. A turbo slut, loved the D. She latched onto me and started demanding kids which was a hard no as I wasn't going to impregnate a whore, so we broke up.

Fast forward a couple of years and she's suddenly dating a bull dyke and posting endless rainbow stickers on her FB page. Weird I think, but whatever. But now I'm seeing more and more obviously straight girls LARPing as queer.

I blame porn and kids leading their lives online and neglecting IRL relationships. It's sad seeing perfectly adequate white girls wasting their best SMV years. They'll wake up in their late thirties childless and depressed.