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Yes, and it was immediately autosaging on /bant/ too but it's slower, so it will be up longer.
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Sophie Labelle Verville / Guillaume Labelle / Serious Trans Vibes Comics / Assigned Male / Candycore Comics / Pastel Sexy Times / WafflesArt - Obnoxious webcomics and horrific porn by a crazy fat pedo troon
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MSM wouldn't surprise me, but I don't think any media group's picked this up yet, even small ones, despite it being an unquestionably damning conviction of a pretty prominent writer.
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I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid, they are willfully missing the point.
JenkinsJinkies
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"They just drive themselves deeper into their cults/subculture and lose touch with reality"
So close to self awareness
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Abuse is no excuse for getting your rocks off for literal children.
Troutsmacked
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Honestly it just makes you even more evil in my eyes, because as a victim who experienced that shit yourself you know first hand how devastating it is for a child and how badly it fucks you up.
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Mental illness and past abuse are explanations for behavior, not excuses. You may do something fucked up because you were having delusions but this doesn't mean your action was less fucked up and you go without being put in a psych hospital for a few years under heavy medication.
It is not your fault these things happened but it is your responsibility to deal with your shit and not hurt other people and if you do not do so it will not absolve you of guilt.
It is not your fault these things happened but it is your responsibility to deal with your shit and not hurt other people and if you do not do so it will not absolve you of guilt.
гape
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if you aren't struggling, you will never improve. why am i even surprised? these are the individuals content with drawing like a 12 year old and leaving the house dressed like a 10 year old. their entire philosophy is being weak, repulsive and useless
oops i stand corrected, look at this "art"
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I’m new to this dude, but the similarities with one of my personal LoL cows (Rhys/Rachel/Veronica) seem to be extensive:
Fat;
Shit at job, but overpaid anyway;
Canadian;
Neon hair;
Inserts thinly-disguised heroic version of self into own fanfic (“Sophie” becomes “Stephie”, “Veronica” becomes “Victoria”);
Actively seeks proximity to children (children’s author / “glitter family”);
Deluded about appearance to the extent of calling himself “cute” and adopting monikers like “Foxy” and “Labelle”;
Describes self as a kind of celebrity/troon activist/leader of the troons;
Is, or lives with, a pedo; and
Is, or probably is, a fucking furry.
I could add that they are both complete fucktards, but I think it’s strongly implied.
Fat;
Shit at job, but overpaid anyway;
Canadian;
Neon hair;
Inserts thinly-disguised heroic version of self into own fanfic (“Sophie” becomes “Stephie”, “Veronica” becomes “Victoria”);
Actively seeks proximity to children (children’s author / “glitter family”);
Deluded about appearance to the extent of calling himself “cute” and adopting monikers like “Foxy” and “Labelle”;
Describes self as a kind of celebrity/troon activist/leader of the troons;
Is, or lives with, a pedo; and
Is, or probably is, a fucking furry.
I could add that they are both complete fucktards, but I think it’s strongly implied.
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Former member of parliament?? It just keeps getting worse.. at least he's not involved in politics anymore.
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Why must furries defile everything they touch? Typhlosion is my favorite Pokemon and now I have to look at that diapered technicolor mess on my screen.
Can furries make any design that isn't a retina scalding neon pallet-swap?
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Mostly the furries that live in Japan, China, South Korea, Taiwan, or any southeast Asian country are capable of avoiding neon pallet re-colors.
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It's the circle of shit, my friend.
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Well, turns out Disney predicted what would happen.
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Jesus I was hoping it was just other batshit troons or white knights going to these signings and not actual parents bringing their fucking kids...
Maybe the guy went to the signings for some re election campaign or something? You know, trying to show he cares about troons or something? Or maybe I'm being too optimistic in thinking a parent should be concerned with bringing their children to a sex shop for a creepy pedo book signing.
Cadaver Corpse
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Alright. Gonna add onto this post. This is restating some of my points in different words, but hopefully some defender lurking here will see this and stop to think for a minute.
I wanted to bring this up and it's splitting hairs somewhat as there isn't a precise definition, but I feel it's important to point out the difference between a KINK and a FETISH (paraphilia).
A KINK is something that turns you on, that's a bit 'out of the norm' but that you can live without. If you have a kink for, say, being tied up, it means that thing turns you on BUT you don't always need it to be aroused.
"Rope bondage is one of my kinks. I like being tied up in the bedroom, but I don't always need it, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to be tied up when I'm aroused. I can have fulfilling orgasms without being in rope, and I could live without it, but it's hot to include in sex."
A FETISH or PARAPHILIA is something you need to be turned on. It's something you think about all the time when being turned on, and if you can't think about it or play it out, you're left feeling unfulfilled. If your fetish is being tied up, you cannot fully get off without being tied up. You have to be tied up or be looking at content related to it to get off."I have a rope bondage fetish. I HAVE to be tied up in the bedroom. Getting off is unfulfilling if I'm not tied up. I cannot masturbate or be fully turned on without thinking of being tied up or looking at art of people tied up. I cannot give this up while still being fully sexually satisfied."
Labelle has a FETISH. Not a kink. Yes, even though they claim it's a kink. If this was a kink, Labelle would be able to put their hands up and say "Okay, I'm leaving this behind, I like this thing but I don't need it, I made a mistake in my judgement and I'm going to seek therapy and not do this again." However, with this being a fetish, Labelle refuses to depart from it - they are unable to be satisfied without it. 'Kink' is simply seen as 'softer' and 'more acceptable' than 'fetish', which is likely why Labelle used this term.
I'll be referring to this fetish as 'kink' in most of these bullet points, as that is what Labelle, people for Labelle, and people against Labelle have been calling it, but that does not change the fact that this is a FETISH.
Now, to go back and refute more stuff (again). I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I want to cover the bases.
- "The evidence comes from KiwiFarms, so it can't be trusted!"
- Some skepticism is healthy. However, KiwiFarms isn't exactly the 'source' of the evidence. All of these screenshots of Labelle's behaviours are sourced from other people on Facebook/Twitter, or are otherwise taken directly from Labelle's social media. KiwiFarms has just compiled everything into one place.The original post that started this whole thing, with the comparison between the toddler reference photo and Labelle's diaper art, came from a random Facebook user. Other evidence is straight from the horse's mouth.
- Labelle has admitted to having an ABDL kink, Labelle has admitted to tracing over a toddler for their fetish art.
- Some skepticism is healthy. However, KiwiFarms isn't exactly the 'source' of the evidence. All of these screenshots of Labelle's behaviours are sourced from other people on Facebook/Twitter, or are otherwise taken directly from Labelle's social media. KiwiFarms has just compiled everything into one place.The original post that started this whole thing, with the comparison between the toddler reference photo and Labelle's diaper art, came from a random Facebook user. Other evidence is straight from the horse's mouth.
- "But KiwiFarms doxes people, so it can't be trusted!"
- I don't like the fact that this place is so eager to dox people either, but that doesn't change the fact that evidence is evidence.
- "But KiwiFarms hates gay / trans people, so it can't be trusted!"
- I disagree with a lot of the views here, but just because they misgender Labelle doesn't make this evidence any less true.
- "Kink is non-sexual, so it doesn't matter if Labelle referenced babies for their art!"
- Okay. If kink is inherently non-sexual, do you feel comfortable flogging a 15-year-old because they said they wanted to do it? That's 'kinky', isn't it? Would you agree to do it because it's 'non-sexual'? Would you feel comfortable with a 14-year-old posting photos of herself in leather fetish gear because kink is 'non-sexual'? A 13-year-old begging on social media to be put in a collar and pissed on? If 'kink isn't inherently sexual', then you should have no issue with any of this. But you should have an issue with all of this, because kink is inherently sexual.
- If kink is non-sexual, then why are public kink acts often frowned upon by the BDSM and greater kink community? Why is it frowned upon to, say, dress someone up in bondage gear and walk them around your local Wal-Mart to humiliate them? Well, it's because it's forcing non-consenting people to witness (and be a part of) a sexual act. If it wasn't sexual, clearly nobody would have an issue with it.
- Also.
- "A kink is defined as a sexual activity that falls outside of sex that society traditionally considers "acceptable."" / src
- Same page lists ageplay as a kink, too.
- "A kink is defined as a sexual activity that falls outside of sex that society traditionally considers "acceptable."" / src
- "Kink is actually a show of intimacy, so it's not inherently sexual!"
- You need a lot of trust in your partner to participate in kink, yes. That doesn't change the fact that it is - and will continue to be - inherently sexual.
- "Well I still don't think kink is sexual, because I'm asexual and I do kink!"
- Behaviours can be sexual even if the person experiencing them doesn't find sexual attraction in others.
- "An asexual individual may choose to engage in sexual behaviors for various reasons even while not experiencing sexual attraction." / src
- Here's more sources - different from the ones in my original post - that state that ace people can partake in sexual activites.
- "Asexuality exists on a continuum from people who experience no attraction or desire for sexual activities, to those who experience low levels, or only under specific conditions will they experience sexual attractions." [Myths and facts] "Asexuals don't ever want to have sex - Although for some this is true, there are many asexual individuals who do have sex." / src
- "Aces might [...] experience arousal and orgasm. Choose to masturbate. Choose to engage in sexual activity." / src
- "Some asexual people engage in sexual activity despite lacking sexual attraction or a desire for sex, due to a variety of reasons, such as a desire to pleasure themselves or romantic partners, or a desire to have children." / src
- "Some asexuals neither experience sexual attraction nor have a sex drive. Some have romantic or emotional attraction, but not a sex drive. Some have a sex drive, but they do not experience an attraction. Finally, some experience both attraction and drive, but do not find that those two things are linked." "What does this mean in practice? Some asexuals are not sexual and will never be sexual. Some asexuals are not interested in sex but will engage sexually with a partner who is interested in sex. Some asexuals are interested in sex with themselves, but not with other people." / src
- "Some people who are asexual masturbate and others do not. " / src
- "Do asexuals have sex? Some do, some don’t. Do asexuals masturbate? Some do, some don’t. " / src
- Behaviours can be sexual even if the person experiencing them doesn't find sexual attraction in others.
- "Lots of artists use references and trace them, there's nothing wrong with that!"
- Yes! Many art references that artists use will come from people who photograph themselves knowing that their bodies will be referenced for all sorts of things. Other references may be made from the artist photographing themselves in different positions, or through posing 3D models. There's nothing wrong with that.
- The issue is not that Labelle 'just traced a reference' or 'just used references'. All artists do this.
- The issue is that Labelle made sexually-charged fetish art from referencing and tracing REAL BABIES.
- The issue is that Labelle wanted to create fetish art, decided to seek out photos of real-world infants to reference it, likely spent upwards of an hour working on these two pieces made with the intent to arouse, and currently defends that.
- "It's just a drawing of a dog swimming in a pool!"
- Labelle claimed this and intentionally left out the context, which is a red flag by itself, isn't it?
- It was self-admitted kink art of a child anthro dog in a diaper, traced from a candid photo of a real toddler.
- Back to the 'camera' with eyes looking at the viewer and a raised tail in furry art often implies a sexual invitation.
- Tail up typically conotes exposing genitalia.
- The tail is curved as to draw one's eye to the diaper.
- Water droplets on a character in porn often adds to the sexual appeal.
- Combine that with the fact that Labelle intentionally made the diaper appear sagging and barely hanging on, especially given their admission to diaperfur content being a kink [fetish] makes this more than just 'a dog in a pool'.
- Labelle claimed this and intentionally left out the context, which is a red flag by itself, isn't it?
- "It's not harming a real toddler!"
- While yes, Labelle hasn't physically abused this child, that does not diminish the potential psychological impact it will have on this child in the future. Imagine finding out that when you were a year old, someone in their 30's looked at an image of 1-year-old you climbing into a pool and was sexually aroused to the point of making fetish art by tracing over you. Imagine then finding out that people defended this. That is such a clear violation of boundaries, especially given that this is a toddler that cannot consent. Imagine being a parent and knowing someone did this with your baby.
- "Just because someone fantasizes it doesn't mean they actually want it in real life!"
- Agreed, fictional fantasizing about oneself does not always equate to real-world desires. I'm certain that a vast majority of people into vore don't actually want to be kill or be killed by someone in reality, for example.
- "Not everyone into ageplay and ABDL likes actual children!"
- As above, fictional fantasizing does not always equate to real world desires. Sure, most people into ABDL don't look at actual toddlers and thinks to make fetish art from them, let alone act on those thoughts.... however, Labelle certainly has! This is primarily to do with Labelle who founds it appropriate to incorporate actual toddlers into their fetish art, and is not targeting the entire ABDL community, majority of people within this community aren't doing what Labelle did, don't make this an attack on yourself when it isn't.
- To defend Labelle is to defend a legitimate predator, and if you percieve people bashing Labelle for finding images of a real-world toddler arousing enough to make fetish content from as an attack on you, then that says more about you than anything.
- "You're just a bunch of sex-repulsed kink-shaming prudes!"
- I'm, to put it lightly, a horny motherfucker who is into questionable shit. I'm involved in BDSM/kink/fetish. I'm sure there are other KiwiFarms members who do the same. I've always been an advocate of kink as long as it's done in a way where non-consenting people aren't involved. Being against the use of children to create sexual content isn't 'prudish', it's common sense. This behaviour needs to be pointed out and shamed. There is nothing that can be said to excuse Labelle's behaviour, especially given her refusal to admit to any wrongdoing.
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Sorry to smack down some hard disagrees in the last few pages, but *news flash* there have been pedos for thousands of years and there have been people who hated and prosecuted pedos for thousands of years. Hell, some people were out and proud pedos 2,500 years ago. This is not any new thing.
Every person has a corner of their brain that's either swiping right or swiping left on everyone they see. Maybe there's a 90-year-old woman somewhere who is just not interested in sex so everyone's going to be a no. Or an eight-year-old kid who is happy to hang out with friends but everyone's a no because they haven't hit puberty and that's not where they are. And there are always going to be a certain number of chomos who look at the eight-year-old kid and think that's something worth tagging.
People who are interested in sex strategize. They may spend years perfecting a plan of attack.
Any time an adult man gets super friendly with the kids, it's inherently suspect. Any time an adult man presses for kids to get comfortable with their bodies and what feels good, it's inherently suspect. Any time an adult man argues that age is nothing but a number, it's inherently suspect.
It's inherently suspect because we recognize the plan of attack and call it grooming.
A big part of setting 18 as the age to get laid, get a tattoo, cut your dick off, join the army, or whatever you want to do is that the people who make the laws remember being young. There's a part of me who would have been stoked to get laid at 14, but the older and wiser me recognizes that 14-year-old me was a fucking tard and a hunky chomo with a good plan of attack could have made it happen with little effort.
Every person has a corner of their brain that's either swiping right or swiping left on everyone they see. Maybe there's a 90-year-old woman somewhere who is just not interested in sex so everyone's going to be a no. Or an eight-year-old kid who is happy to hang out with friends but everyone's a no because they haven't hit puberty and that's not where they are. And there are always going to be a certain number of chomos who look at the eight-year-old kid and think that's something worth tagging.
People who are interested in sex strategize. They may spend years perfecting a plan of attack.
Any time an adult man gets super friendly with the kids, it's inherently suspect. Any time an adult man presses for kids to get comfortable with their bodies and what feels good, it's inherently suspect. Any time an adult man argues that age is nothing but a number, it's inherently suspect.
It's inherently suspect because we recognize the plan of attack and call it grooming.
A big part of setting 18 as the age to get laid, get a tattoo, cut your dick off, join the army, or whatever you want to do is that the people who make the laws remember being young. There's a part of me who would have been stoked to get laid at 14, but the older and wiser me recognizes that 14-year-old me was a fucking tard and a hunky chomo with a good plan of attack could have made it happen with little effort.